Man I feel your pain having to work a half a day on old equipment just to use a few minutes but once everything comes together puts a big smile on your face fun times
I hope the corn you put in the fall is good and dry because depending how much you put in there I don't think it's going to keep very well especially if it's on the wet side. I do hope it works out for you though.
Glad to see this up and running. If you keep the bin unloading conveyor covered and the bin is full, how do you remove the floor doors/covers. Being a city boy perhaps I am missing something.
I was wondering the same thing. With a corn crib the outside lower ring opens up in stages vertically, and then after taking corn out you can remove the floor piece by piece.
I grew up running a New Idea picker on a Case 400. We filled 2 and a half cribs every fall. Two of those had similar elevators with lift up extensions because we used end dump wagons. The third crib had a closed, internal bucket elevator and a dump pit in the floor. Corn was put in as dry as we could get it, and shelled out in the spring. Lots of labor involved, but shelling was more fun than picking. Had a neighbor that tried using bins for popcorn and had LOTS of problems getting corn out. It would stick and bridge together and they generally had at least one guy in the bin working it down while loading out. They also had several close calls when corn pile collapsed under them or stuck piles fell on them. Cribs were much safer, rake out the doors until you could get inside, then rake and shovel into conveyor. Be safe, we bought a farm from a guy who got his arm caught in his PTO shaft and was unable to farm after that.
Looking good... the first ears to hit the floor may shatter some, but as soon as you start building a pile it should soften the blow after that... Unloading is the part I want to see...
I converted two silos to dry popcorn (30 years ago)it worked well. I dried with a wood fired dryer. I filled with a conveyor that ran between two silos. The conveyor had a plow on it that I could switch sides and also reverse to switch silos (Patz feeder). The largest draw back was the silo acted as a big condenser (dripping walls), good thing I used pebble film (the type used for basement water mitigation) to line the silo. It worked just used much more wood. The make of the elevator made a huge difference New Idea was the best it has a ledge somewhat preventing the corn from lifting the paddles. Helps if the bottom is shined up too. I used wood to cover the small conveyor in the silo, two corn picker conveyors put together. Good luck - cob corn makes more nutritious corn if you shell there is a market for the cobs. Also you can feed them, burn them, they are great fuel,and they make the best bedding. If were to do it again I would take the silo down to about 25 feet maybe less, and automate the wood burner.
Commenting based off of the video description. Considering that you goal is to retain kernels maybe put the elevator through the door for the first load or two so that a pile builds then I think your goal of kernel retention might be achievable, just a thought
There are spreader for ear corn, traditionally used in corn cribs. However it does make the ears very hard to get out as they don't want to flow. We didn't use them in our cribs and the corn falls in the middle, then flows to the outside. When taking the corn out, it has a tendency to still flow. With the spreader, the ears need to be chopped out as they don't flow (usually with hand tools).
Best idea I have ever seen for ear corn was a Patz barn cleaner under a 50'X10'X 10' crib. The gutter chain unit had enough torque to move the ear corn at a rate that a good grinder/mixer could handle it. Solid bins with save all of the kernels that shatter, but you may have to run fans more to prevent mold.👍
@@boehmfarm4276 Yes you will need to keep a close eye on that bin. Run your fan when air is cool and dry, smell the outgoing air for hints of mold, and shell it as soon as you can.
I used to do a lot of shelled corn through one of those Kewanee elevators. With that being said, you always had to keep it tight. Just enough of an incline so you got to keep plenty of tension to the chain so it carries the load
Thanks for the video, you put a lot of time into building that system .I really hope it works out right in the end. Be careful walking up that elevator, you've only got to have a slat break and you'll either have half a day out at the hospital and hopefully nothing broken or worst option half a day getting measured for a pine overcoat if it goes south real bad. Just wondering if a couple of those 1" ratchet straps people use for tying stuff down in pickups would work better to keep that lid on, they'll maybe keep better tension as temps change. As long as they don't get wet and freeze up if you need to get the lid off in the winter, sometimes thats what happens to the 2 I use in my service truck to hold my toolbox down. Take care
Farming is a dangerous line of work when one is exposed to rotating equipment. This video is a classic example of what is a setup for disaster. If you have ever seen what happens to human arms and legs when they get caught up in a rotating shaft you know the horror I am talking about. It all happens in a second and then everyone is sorry for a lifetime.
Had a neighbor have the problem with corn going under the flights. He got in there with his feet. One leg went under a flight and dragged him all the way to the top where it cut his leg off. He survived but it ended his farming career.
I bet it was more of a sense of relief that everything worked. You should have a cone on the end of the elevator to funnel the corn in tho. It will help alot when you decide to push the elevator harder. When I go up the elevator I park the front of my farmall m over the bottom you might try setting the skidloader bucket on the bottom to add stability. Stay safe Jacob 👍
Hi bud from northwest Missouri I always enjoy your video's bud was wondering if you getting close to getting all the parts for the 2x2 international and getting it repaired bud can't wait to see it running again 😊😊
Could make a drop sock funnel thing so the corn has to slide through a fabric funnel before it falls. Probably more trouble then it's worth All I can think about is Rodents 😬
After seeing the first vid and having round cribs myself , good luck w the unloading of bin. Hopefully I'll have to eat crow but... Tighten the chain on elevator and no it won't go on its own. Put a good heavy truck tire on lid to hold it down
You need to take more grates on your floor so the corn connect to get more onto the conveyor. Otherwise you’re only going to have like one or two ears come out at a time.
@THE PUBLIC EYE yeah I've thought the same thing. Only takes one a second fior something bad to happen and there's so many schetchy things around the farm
It is a big job to move that elevator, only practical if he has a separate small one to go through the door. Its a solid bin, shelled corn will just get swept out when bin is unloaded.
I new to this ch n whole ear dry corn y don't you use actual cribs instead of grain bins n what's the purpose of the whole ear as a posed to combining n threshing for grain?
I already had the grain bin here not being used. And there's not many folks with ear corn. Niche market, more money, but much of it is sold to be wasted on deer.
One of my uncles caught his pantleg on a PTO shaft like that on an elevator. He was disabled for the rest of his life when the thing wound up enough to kill the tractor engine. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a shield. You are too young for that.
I'm concerned about the quality of corn coming out of that bin. I know that you can run air through the corn, but keep in mind that air will follow the path of least resistance. There was always a reason that ear corn was stored in slotted cribs. Air flow is very important. Make sure the corn is very dry when you put it in that bin. Just a concerned viewer.
@@boehmfarm4276 you're right. We still fill corn cribs. Wooden cribs were six to eight feet wide. Round wire cribs have wooden vents installed in the middle that acted like chimneys to keep air flowing. We never fill these cribs until the corn is around twenty percent moisture . In 1992 we had a cool summer and the corn just never dried down far enough to be safe for cribbing, we did it anyway and we had a lot of mold in the corn and we had terrible luck with the hogs that year because of it. I'm not saying you won't get quality corn, the best thing that you can do is after the bin is full, level it off the best you can so the air flow is even. And definitely keep the shelled corn out of it because it will pile up in the middle. Mold will always grow there. I wish you luck!🙂
Now I've seen it all. May I ask why in the world you would run earcorn into a bin for shell corn? It would seem to me you would be much better off putting that earcorn in a crib. My assumption is you want the corn for grinding cob and all. Otherwise, there's no gain in picking corn in the ear and putting it in a bin instead of a crib.
I have people who want to buy it on the cob. And I already had a the bin there sitting unused, so there was no point spending more money on a crib. Just had to modify the bin a little.
Don't trip. Not being a fan of heights it makes me nervous watching you go up there.Looks like with a little fine tuning that set up seems like it's going to work for you.
I'm just gonna say you need to not be lazy. Take the tension out and pull off 1 or 2 links a side on the conveyor and it'd work a million times better!!! Chain is to loose!! I mean it's common sense look at your adjustment it's almost fully extended. 2nd see how it can ride over the corn almost a foot?? Yeah those chains only want 1 to 1 1/2 inch deflection. If you'd stop and not be lazy and do that u cld actually run it faster! Also another way to tell is the chain coming off sprocket! Do something farming takes some mechanicing so do it!!!
You will get there but I'd suggest using the side door first to establish the pile to reduce kernel loss through falling. Speaking of which I like you and your videos so stop being so devil make care with heights, bare ptos and one handed wrenching! You are too skinny to bounce. From South Australia.
Also they make a tool to pull those links off. Just go between 2 slats after fully loosening it and chrimp the chain then hit the links out! ITS EASY PROBABLY TAKE 15MIN!! And please the big words don't make you sound smart. Your lack of knowledge on this conveyor shows.
Sorry Sir but WHY are you putting ear corn in a grain Ben??! Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s on Minnesota dairy farm.what your doing doesn’t aid up!! And above all please keep yourself SAFE. As. Military medic/ EMT . You don’t want to get rapped up in your equipment.
I already had the bin standing there unused for a couple decades, so I fixed it up and put an elevator in the floor. Somewhere I have a video of the transformation work. I pick ear corn because no one else does, a niche market for selling.
Man I feel your pain having to work a half a day on old equipment just to use a few minutes but once everything comes together puts a big smile on your face fun times
Y667
When those ears started falling in I found it rather humorous haha. I used to ride those elevators up into the hay loft.
I'm glad you're young and sure footed walking up that elevator. I got weak knees watching. Hope you make it all work.
I'd rather walk up that elevator than climb those dinky ladders straight up the side and on those roofs... and the one inside is worse...
I hope the corn you put in the fall is good and dry because depending how much you put in there I don't think it's going to keep very well especially if it's on the wet side. I do hope it works out for you though.
Glad to see this up and running. If you keep the bin unloading conveyor covered and the bin is full, how do you remove the floor doors/covers. Being a city boy perhaps I am missing something.
That’s what I’m wondering
I was wondering the same thing. With a corn crib the outside lower ring opens up in stages vertically, and then after taking corn out you can remove the floor piece by piece.
haha love the way you slapped that motor, in such a fashion it reminds me of the this is as nice as the day it left the showroom floor
You need one of the cone diverters in the top opening like a corn crib has to throw the corn to the outside!
Im glad you didn't take the stairs and instead took the elevator up 😄😄😄😄.
I grew up running a New Idea picker on a Case 400. We filled 2 and a half cribs every fall. Two of those had similar elevators with lift up extensions because we used end dump wagons. The third crib had a closed, internal bucket elevator and a dump pit in the floor. Corn was put in as dry as we could get it, and shelled out in the spring. Lots of labor involved, but shelling was more fun than picking. Had a neighbor that tried using bins for popcorn and had LOTS of problems getting corn out. It would stick and bridge together and they generally had at least one guy in the bin working it down while loading out. They also had several close calls when corn pile collapsed under them or stuck piles fell on them. Cribs were much safer, rake out the doors until you could get inside, then rake and shovel into conveyor. Be safe, we bought a farm from a guy who got his arm caught in his PTO shaft and was unable to farm after that.
Yeah that PTO shaft on the elevator down there bare is just begging to catch pants leg and pull a guy into it...
One down looks good it's running one more to finish up see you this week 😊
I'd call it a success. You got all summer to work out the kinks. Thanks for sharing
Looking good... the first ears to hit the floor may shatter some, but as soon as you start building a pile it should soften the blow after that... Unloading is the part I want to see...
I converted two silos to dry popcorn (30 years ago)it worked well. I dried with a wood fired dryer. I filled with a conveyor that ran between two silos. The conveyor had a plow on it that I could switch sides and also reverse to switch silos (Patz feeder). The largest draw back was the silo acted as a big condenser (dripping walls), good thing I used pebble film (the type used for basement water mitigation) to line the silo. It worked just used much more wood. The make of the elevator made a huge difference New Idea was the best it has a ledge somewhat preventing the corn from lifting the paddles. Helps if the bottom is shined up too. I used wood to cover the small conveyor in the silo, two corn picker conveyors put together. Good luck - cob corn makes more nutritious corn if you shell there is a market for the cobs. Also you can feed them, burn them, they are great fuel,and they make the best bedding. If were to do it again I would take the silo down to about 25 feet maybe less, and automate the wood burner.
Commenting based off of the video description.
Considering that you goal is to retain kernels maybe put the elevator through the door for the first load or two so that a pile builds then I think your goal of kernel retention might be achievable, just a thought
This works well with the below mentioned cone.
Great idea, but I still think he needs a few loads on the floor before dropping ears in the top to give a softer landing for the majority of the ears
You will be cutting holes in the side of those bins to get your corn out.
Glad to see more videos. Be safe. Thanks for sharing.
There are spreader for ear corn, traditionally used in corn cribs. However it does make the ears very hard to get out as they don't want to flow. We didn't use them in our cribs and the corn falls in the middle, then flows to the outside. When taking the corn out, it has a tendency to still flow. With the spreader, the ears need to be chopped out as they don't flow (usually with hand tools).
Best idea I have ever seen for ear corn was a Patz barn cleaner under a 50'X10'X 10' crib. The gutter chain unit had enough torque to move the ear corn at a rate that a good grinder/mixer could handle it. Solid bins with save all of the kernels that shatter, but you may have to run fans more to prevent mold.👍
I plan on the fan running. I figure forced air has to be better than waiting on the breeze.
@@boehmfarm4276 Yes you will need to keep a close eye on that bin. Run your fan when air is cool and dry, smell the outgoing air for hints of mold, and shell it as soon as you can.
Great video! Glad it works well. Nice shirt BTW lol
I used to do a lot of shelled corn through one of those Kewanee elevators. With that being said, you always had to keep it tight. Just enough of an incline so you got to keep plenty of tension to the chain so it carries the load
This project is definitely a win, planning and hard work has come to gather to make the farm more efficient. Great job!👍👍👍
Nice setup for shelled corn but it will not unload with that conveyor once the crib is full.
Nice setup Jacob, can't wait to see this fall. More picking videos Yes!
You are so right love your videos keep them coming YOUR a hard working smart young man hope you all the success
How do u get corn out when floor is covered and u can't c auger
Great video Jacob 👍🌽🌽
They do make a ear corn spreader it walks on two legs and a rake!
If Nick has to do public service as part of his sentence that would be a good job for him if Jacob allows him on the farm
Jacob I most certainly hope that works out well for you God bless😊
I'm waiting for the unload verification 😎
Thanks for the video, you put a lot of time into building that system .I really hope it works out right in the end. Be careful walking up that elevator, you've only got to have a slat break and you'll either have half a day out at the hospital and hopefully nothing broken or worst option half a day getting measured for a pine overcoat if it goes south real bad. Just wondering if a couple of those 1" ratchet straps people use for tying stuff down in pickups would work better to keep that lid on, they'll maybe keep better tension as temps change. As long as they don't get wet and freeze up if you need to get the lid off in the winter, sometimes thats what happens to the 2 I use in my service truck to hold my toolbox down. Take care
I was thinking of baling twine.
Farming is a dangerous line of work when one is exposed to rotating equipment. This video is a classic example of what is a setup for disaster. If you have ever seen what happens to human arms and legs when they get caught up in a rotating shaft you know the horror I am talking about. It all happens in a second and then everyone is sorry for a lifetime.
Dont farm much do yah.....
That's all there is around the farm is rotating dangerous equipment.
Das' right. It's what makes the farm go 'round. 😅😅
His dad did a few years ago...
Otherwise, what is your solution to a farm with no spinning shafts?
Had a neighbor have the problem with corn going under the flights. He got in there with his feet. One leg went under a flight and dragged him all the way to the top where it cut his leg off. He survived but it ended his farming career.
I bet it was more of a sense of relief that everything worked. You should have a cone on the end of the elevator to funnel the corn in tho. It will help alot when you decide to push the elevator harder. When I go up the elevator I park the front of my farmall m over the bottom you might try setting the skidloader bucket on the bottom to add stability. Stay safe Jacob 👍
So how do you get it out. Corn cribs are suppose to be ope air to allow corn to dry. Corn cribbing works very well in circle stacked three high
I am really curious how you plan to remove the first floor conveyor covers when the bin is full?
I need to figure out a hole above the elevator to get started.
You should be able to get that fiberglass patch at Napa
Hi bud from northwest Missouri I always enjoy your video's bud was wondering if you getting close to getting all the parts for the 2x2 international and getting it repaired bud can't wait to see it running again 😊😊
@LowaCountryGirl1 hi
fill it through the hole at the bottom then fill from the top so the corn has less flight time and softer landing.....
Respect to you for seeing potential in used equipment.. some have plenty life left but now and again you get the basket case.... 😅 stay safe 🏴
U have good balance and nerves what a rush seeing the tools slide off the roof
Over the years l had same problem with the chain at the top
I thought about doing this back when we milked cows but never did. Good to see my idea could have worked
Could make a drop sock funnel thing so the corn has to slide through a fabric funnel before it falls. Probably more trouble then it's worth
All I can think about is Rodents 😬
You should switch everything to hydraulic motors. You are inevitably going to get caught in a pto shaft
Load looks a lot smaller in the bin then in the wagon, it is amazing to see that what U can cob up. LOL
After seeing the first vid and having round cribs myself , good luck w the unloading of bin. Hopefully I'll have to eat crow but... Tighten the chain on elevator and no it won't go on its own. Put a good heavy truck tire on lid to hold it down
Wow. You must have no fear of heights. Please be careful and use a safety line when working up there.
Couldn't you have put the elevator in the side door for the first couple of loads?
So how are you getting the corn out after you fill it and the conveyor covers are still in place under the corn
I will be making a door right about the elevator to get the bin started.
we get an update on the 2 + 2? or did i miss it was gone?
I bet that the chopper box is better than the gravity box for unloading since you control the pto speed with the tractor.
Less playing in the wagon.
@@boehmfarm4276 that is for sure.
You need to take more grates on your floor so the corn connect to get more onto the conveyor. Otherwise you’re only going to have like one or two ears come out at a time.
How are you going to get corn out? Ear corn usually has to be raked out of a crib, bridges up a lot, you probably have a plan!!
I'll be in there pushing it across the floor, no lifting.
@@boehmfarm4276 How will you do that when the bin is full?
There will be a little door in the wall over the elevator to get it started.
I couldn’t watch you climb up elevator!!! No way!!!!’ Be careful young man
Always worry about your safety watching these. I’m not one for annoying regulations etc but you do take a lots of risks - stay safe!
His dads armis still not 100% be still he has open drivesahfts and no guards on anything.
@THE PUBLIC EYE yeah I've thought the same thing. Only takes one a second fior something bad to happen and there's so many schetchy things around the farm
Why would you not fill through the lower door to begin with…..may not break so many 😅😅😅😅
It is a big job to move that elevator, only practical if he has a separate small one to go through the door. Its a solid bin, shelled corn will just get swept out when bin is unloaded.
Wow he is not scared of the PTO 😯
I new to this ch n whole ear dry corn y don't you use actual cribs instead of grain bins n what's the purpose of the whole ear as a posed to combining n threshing for grain?
I already had the grain bin here not being used. And there's not many folks with ear corn. Niche market, more money, but much of it is sold to be wasted on deer.
For one thing your chain is backwards. Curved paddles are to act as cups.
What is your plan to remove the elevator covers once you have covered them? Maybe a rope or two tied to the first couple to pull them out?
I'll be in there with a shovel pushing corn.
@@boehmfarm4276 How will you shovel corn into the elevator when the bin is full and the covers are buried under 20 feet of corn?
I still need to make a little opening over the elevator to get it started.
Elevator should have a chute on the top end
How will you get the lids in the bin over the unload elevator off once the bin is full?
Push the corn off.
Good video.
What happened to your international harvester 3588?
how do you plan on emptying the bin????
With the elevator in the floor
@@boehmfarm4276 how will you uncover the floor elevator when it's full of corn???
One of my uncles caught his pantleg on a PTO shaft like that on an elevator. He was disabled for the rest of his life when the thing wound up enough to kill the tractor engine. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a shield. You are too young for that.
It works that's what counts
Good stuff 😊
I'm concerned about the quality of corn coming out of that bin. I know that you can run air through the corn, but keep in mind that air will follow the path of least resistance. There was always a reason that ear corn was stored in slotted cribs. Air flow is very important. Make sure the corn is very dry when you put it in that bin.
Just a concerned viewer.
Those cribs had no forced air. Path of least resistance could still be an issue in old fashion cribs.
@@boehmfarm4276 you're right. We still fill corn cribs. Wooden cribs were six to eight feet wide. Round wire cribs have wooden vents installed in the middle that acted like chimneys to keep air flowing. We never fill these cribs until the corn is around twenty percent moisture . In 1992 we had a cool summer and the corn just never dried down far enough to be safe for cribbing, we did it anyway and we had a lot of mold in the corn and we had terrible luck with the hogs that year because of it. I'm not saying you won't get quality corn, the best thing that you can do is after the bin is full, level it off the best you can so the air flow is even. And definitely keep the shelled corn out of it because it will pile up in the middle. Mold will always grow there. I wish you luck!🙂
How's your Dad's knee?
I have the same elevator
The is the dirityest corn I've seen and I'm 80yrs old.
Now I've seen it all. May I ask why in the world you would run earcorn into a bin for shell corn? It would seem to me you would be much better off putting that earcorn in a crib. My assumption is you want the corn for grinding cob and all. Otherwise, there's no gain in picking corn in the ear and putting it in a bin instead of a crib.
I have people who want to buy it on the cob. And I already had a the bin there sitting unused, so there was no point spending more money on a crib. Just had to modify the bin a little.
cool
No way ever I will go up there and do what you do, man I was stressing a lot, how do your Dad feel about you up there, eishhhh
After seeing my dad lose his arm in a pto shaft I hate to see farmers standing by unsafe pros, believe me it's not worth the risk
Don't trip. Not being a fan of heights it makes me nervous watching you go up there.Looks like with a little fine tuning that set up seems like it's going to work for you.
I'm just gonna say you need to not be lazy. Take the tension out and pull off 1 or 2 links a side on the conveyor and it'd work a million times better!!! Chain is to loose!! I mean it's common sense look at your adjustment it's almost fully extended. 2nd see how it can ride over the corn almost a foot?? Yeah those chains only want 1 to 1 1/2 inch deflection. If you'd stop and not be lazy and do that u cld actually run it faster! Also another way to tell is the chain coming off sprocket! Do something farming takes some mechanicing so do it!!!
hay elevators dom't move grain well??? You lose a lot of grain with your picker....
Interesting
Before I watch this video I hope it works after all the shit you went through last week, looked like a right ass in the pain
corn space program
Tell us why nick is out of the picture
Legal issues and the overall ability to break an anvil with a q tip.
You will get there but I'd suggest using the side door first to establish the pile to reduce kernel loss through falling. Speaking of which I like you and your videos so stop being so devil make care with heights, bare ptos and one handed wrenching! You are too skinny to bounce. From South Australia.
Who buys your ear corn?
Many dear hunters and some folks with cattle.
@@boehmfarm4276 oh ok you must have a good market for it, I don’t see anything like that around this area.
There's not much ear corn picked around here. It's easy to sell when there's not much competition.n
@@boehmfarm4276 oh ok 👍
Your really new at this aren’t you?
Also they make a tool to pull those links off. Just go between 2 slats after fully loosening it and chrimp the chain then hit the links out! ITS EASY PROBABLY TAKE 15MIN!! And please the big words don't make you sound smart. Your lack of knowledge on this conveyor shows.
Sorry Sir but WHY are you putting ear corn in a grain Ben??! Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s on Minnesota dairy farm.what your doing doesn’t aid up!! And above all please keep yourself SAFE. As. Military medic/ EMT . You don’t want to get rapped up in your equipment.
I already had the bin standing there unused for a couple decades, so I fixed it up and put an elevator in the floor. Somewhere I have a video of the transformation work. I pick ear corn because no one else does, a niche market for selling.