@Braeden Bickford no I'm not. The instructions clearly state within 1 foot or 30cm. So as per the instructions I'm within one foot. Maybe the instructions need to be more specific. So my review stands.
Seen a few pro’s do TH-cam videos on the Garmin G80 and this is the first mostly negative review I’ve seen. The ball was very close to the unit during the test, could this influence readings also was the Garmin taking into account Based on all the reviews I’ve seen I think I would still buy one of these.
Most other reviewers are paid to say its great remember thst. It wasn't a negative review, but it was tested within the instructions. The GPS part is fantastic.
Good honest review. I have the G80 and love it. Improved my game a lot, narrowing down carry distances. You have to remember that to many amateur golfers (low h/c exception) they have at least 5-10 yard variance in their shots anyway so if it says 150, that doesn’t mean they’ll hit the shot 150. Maybe not accurate enough for pro’s but for most mid h/c and above it’ll improve your club selection and scores loads. (I’m off 13 currently)
The straight shots were all pretty much bang on. It predicted your pulls to be shorter and your push to be longer as it was giving you the distance for if they were straight...it measures ball speed not ball direction.
I've bought one to learn my carry distances it's great, the roll out is something you set yourself so I tend to ignore that as I want to know how far my shots carry so it's perfect for me
Imo for practice being accurate for wedges is more important than accurate for driver.... It doesn't really matter if your driver is 260 or 270 but that 10 yard for wedges is the difference between being on the green or chipping from the rough
Fair enough review. Just remember it's also a GPS which alone would be worth half the price so the launch monitor side is more £200, although you maybe should have said this point at the start. I prefer GPS although I also have a laser because let's face it, we only even need the centre or back yardage, and as a low handicapper if anyone says give them a tip, I always say just use the back yardage because your always short. Personally I prefer arccos for yardages because its data from on course and grass. I've had a different portable launch monitor in the SC300 and found it was most useful learning wedge shots anyway, this is the area I found improved most as I learnt my half, three quarter and full yardages with wedges, which I saw instant improvement on the course with. So for this I think the Garmin is more than adequate for the price. You can get it for £350 of a certain site with discount code so in my opinion it's a bargain at this price.
Yeah, this will be my next purchase. I’ve got an Approach G30, which is great. But I change my irons and wedges so often that my distances are never consistent. I’ll definitely be upgrading to the G80 for the launch monitor feature.
One of the reasons for the discrepancy might be to do with the proximity of the G80 to the ball. The set-up suggests 30 cm for the optimum results. On your test your ball position looked a bit closer than that. I don't have one, so it might just be an inconsistent device.
@@LWG I use one, and it works better a bit further from the ball. It's a fun thing for me, practising in the garden, but the GPS is great, then again, my wife has the g30 which is as good, if a bit small
Hi Lee, seems to be a little pilot error in this one. If you go to settings, you'll find you can adjust the roll factor this improves the accuracy of the total distance. I've got one of these and checked it against QC Quad and a 'tape measure' - interesting - given that the tape measure is accurate, neither GC Quad or the Garmin G80 gives exact but I found both to be very close - certainly more accurate than any golfers club yardage/consistency. I agree with you on the matter of the GPS yardage on holes for the courses I've used it on - but like you tend to laser within 150yards
Thanks Dave, I'll go check it out. But I rarely use total distance on anything from a launch monitor as it's just a guess. Everytime a ball lands in real life its pot luck.
Now here’s an idea...hit a ball on the course (or range), pace it out, write it down. Note your averages and maximum distances and keep them in a notebook or memorise them. I did that 25 years ago and am fortunate to still hit to the same yardages.
Thanks for the review. What I found curious was that your swing appeared to be the same for each of your shots....and the swing speed on the Garmin seemed to reflect that, as there was much less variance with the calculated swing speeds. SkyTrack was all over the place. No way you were ONLY swinging 100 on that second Driver shot (as SkyTrack claims). You're a bit "flippy" at the bottom of your downswing, which may give the SkyTrack some issues, as it is offset compared to the Garmin.....also, the Garmin is sitting somewhat between your ball and the SkyTrack. I think there are limitations to both launch monitors.
To me this all depends on how strait you can hit the ball, because it can’t see where you’ve hit it on the face if you pull it the numbers will be off. Notice on the strait shots there wasn’t much in it.
Does the G80 work on a practice mat that has a tendency to move..? Mainly want to use this in the garden hitting into a practice net. My mat occasionally slides forward on the concrete, so would that movement mess up the data collection on the G80..?
Good review. I purchased the G80 and have returned it, because none of the practice data is recorded on your device and you cannot select clubs, you have zero stats on any clubs in practice sessions. The app is very weak. Other than that is is an OK device, the data it gives is solid and the target practice and virtual rounds mode is nice.
The reason for the higher ball speed differences is that skytrak underestimates ball speeds in the 130 mph range by 3 mph and in the 160 mph range by 5 mph. So I would say that the garmin is more close to the truth on the longer shots.
Just out of curiosity, what makes you assume it's the SkyTrak that's always the most accurate of the two? The SkyTrak I use doesn't match the GCQuad, the GCQuad doesn't match the TrackMan, the TrackMan doesn't match the Full Swing. If you want to claim one is more accurate than the other you really need to compare it with real life measurements, not just assume the most expensive one is the most accurate.
exactly - I bet the Garmin is more accurate than Skytrack. Are you familiar with the other products the engineers at Garmin make? Think avionics, for starters.
So how do you test against “real life” because elements, humidity, height above sea level get in the way. And if skytrack, trackman and GC Quad are all inaccurate what’s even the point of the Garmin in the first place? Because that’s just as inaccurate. It has to be tested against something, I used skytrack and in the 2 years I’ve had it I’ve found it to be accurate enough for my personal distances.
Lee Whittaker Golf what I meant was taking them to a range, doing the same thing and checking the actual distances with a rangefinder. Obviously that would require a range that is pretty empty though or it'd be a nightmare.
Could some of the discrepancies be down to Skytrax taking dispersion in to account? We all.know draw goes further fade goes shorter but Garmin isn't getting the spin or direction details. I would think variance would naturally be tuned to be better for shorter or longer clubs.
Nice video man, I've just bought the g80 it's amazing in my eyes, maybe 5 yards out the odd time but so are the others 🤣 still for that price it's amazing
Hi Lee. Just bought the Garmin after watching your video - I thought it would still be worthwhile as a practice aid during the lockdown. I don't have a net yet so I tried indoor with a foam ball but it does not seem to work for me. It registers a swing (by beeping) but does not return any number. Do you think it needs to be a real ball for it to work? Does it need a ball at all to work? Just wondering if my unit has malfunction. I would appreciate your response. Thanks.
I would highly assume it needs to be a real ball to work. I have tried to trick it without a ball before and it did nothing. So my guess is it needs to be a real ball. A foam ball won't get the right launch speed
@@LWG i. Thanks for your reply. I think I found found something. It does work with a foam ball but only with bright white ones. Yellowish balls do not seem to work. The other interesting thing, I think you are right, the unit must be really 'seeing' the ball as the Garmin says the (foam) ball speed is slower than the club.
It's definitely a club short or even more on some occasions but I still enjoy it. My tempo was 5+ and smash factor many times was 1.5+. So if you're buying it strickly for a launch monitor, probably not worth it, but I'll use the GPS quite a bit.
Cheers Lee. Did you set the roll factor in the settings in warm up. I also found the closer the ball is to the G80 and not at the recommended 1 foot distance makes a difference too. I bought one of these before xmas new at for £360. As we are in lock down i set up my own nets etc. Im no expert golfer but finding the G80 an excellent tool. My club head speed in my irons around 79/80 mph so experimenting with different makes of ball i can see the total distances change too.
Tony, I didn't set the roll factor as I don't take any notice of roll on simulators mate. A lot of people have said about the 1 foot thing but it does say "within" 1 foot in the manual. I am going to test this against GC Quad when we are allowed to play out again and put it exactly 1 foot away. If it is 1 foot that is recommended then it should specify that in the manual. As a reviewer I test as per the manual or marketing when it comes to clubs. Thanks for your comment. Just want to say I love my G80. Its great fun at the range but I don't pay a lot of attention to its launch monitor data.
Do you know if using limited flight range balls over normal balls would make a difference in the readings with the G80? If not would it be possible for a video on it thanks👍🏼
A better test is are the numbers internally consistent i.e if you make two swings faster and slower is it showing a difference.. comparing across models is like measuring your weight against different scales at the bathroom the gym etc.. there will be absolute differences (in the formula for calculating carry for example, there is no standardisation ) since the ball and club speed match somewhat with strack that's good enough for me)
Nice video. I think the discrepancies you saw were do to spin. When you drew the ball the G80 was saying less and when you faded the ball it showed a greater distance. When you hit the ball straight, it was spot on.
Exactly what I was going to say. It won't take spin into it so 8f you have a weak fade and spinning high it takes it as straight. So best to use it on the good strikes straight which is the data you want
Does it know the exact lofts of your clubs? Skytrack reads actual launch doesn't it? Garmin can only predict based on your speed and loft, if the loft on your 7 is 1 or 2 degrees different to the standard setting it'll make a decent bit of difference i would think?
Skytrak does read launch yes mate. I didn't tell the Garmin any club I was using as surely if its accurate it shouldn't matter. Plus people present different launches and lofts regardless of the clubs actual loft.
I'm on the fence between a sky caddie 500 vs this garmin g80. The sky caddie looks much nicer - but requires an annual fee - which is a bit of a let down.
I had the G8 and upgraded to the G80 when it first came out and got rid of it. Not because I didnt find it accurate or useful, I just hated the fact they got rid of the club tracking feature from the G8 and the screen looked much more washed out and less vibrant. Will wait for the next device which probably won't be long as it's a great little thing to have
@@LWG How can it calculate distance if it doesn't know what club you hit? it surely calculates the distance from the launch angle in it's memory so if it thinks you're hitting a 7, it can't calculate distance for a 4 iron accurately
@@LWG Nah you were putting the ball way to close to the device. How do you expect it to make valid calculations when you're not even putting it the correct length away
@@LWG When you do the test be sure to try and take into account the amount of side spin on the ball. We know the G80 doesn't measure spin at all so that would explain the difference in measurements. Maybe even try to hit a few large fades or draws to see if the variations are larger.
I'm not sure you quite understand the physics involved when you say "you're never going to know" if it's measurements are accurate, because its limitations are obvious from that testing and other testing i've seen on youtube. Ball speed measurement is pretty flawless, but as it doesn't measure spin, it's simulating based off perfect strike for the given launch angle and ball speed. that means for a typical 7i launch angle it's calculating it with about 6500-7000 spin with no curvature, because that's all it can do with the data it collects...... When you hit one straight down the middle with a good strike it was pretty much spot on... when you start slicing and hooking it's going to increase the level of error in its estimations. hit to the right with a fade, it estimated over (couldn't detect the higher spin) and when you missed left with a draw it estimated under (couldn't detect the drop off in spin) All you have to do is watch your shot shape through the air and figure out if it's going to have slightly over or under estimated and compare it to you baseline of good straight shots. As a training aid, if you're missing green left or right by 5-10 yards it doesn't matter how accurate your distances are. From what you've shown in your testing I think it's a great gapping tool for people who can't afford the 20k launch monitors. just note the distances from your good clean strikes and ignore any where you're significantly off line and it appears as if it would be pretty accurate within a yard or two. Also as someone trying to increase their ball speed it seems like the best option for accurate ball speed measurements and tracking progress.
Mark Zola81 rapsodo mobile launch monitor is the same price with a ton more options, most important being that it records your shot with a ball tracer, so you can see everything combined with the numbers
Good review mate. I use a Garmin S60 watch for when I play a round so I'm looking for a training aid for the range or my net in the garden, that's why I watched this review. You can get them for £300 now so would you say it's worth a punt?
I like it mate, the GPS is good and the launch monitor is a bit of fun at the range. I just personally don't take a great deal of real world notice of the data given.
Not certain you are measuring the tolerances stated by Garmin correctly. Surely Garmin did not state their tolerances were based on Skytrak??? There is no way that Skytrak is spot on for carry either as it doesn't track the ball down range, so it's just a calculation based on initial ball characteristics after impact.
You are presuming that Skytrack is accurate. I have watched a number of comparisons between Skytrack and Trackman and the carry distances show large discrepancies. In one of the videos shots with a 6 iron were up to 15 yards out.
@@LWG for me it was between the mevo or the garmin g80, but I decided to go with the mevo. I think they are both pretty good and handy to use, like if you go to the range, rather than taking your skytrak unit you can just bring your garmin 👍
I had sky track and i didn't find it to be that accurate compared to my club trackman, i found it to be a club out on most shots so i got rid of it. for the price the G80 i think is a good tool. can you compare both with trackman?
Do you have to position the device that close to where you hit the ball? I would probably hit the thing occasionally if that is so. UPDATE: Manual says max 30 cm, probably safe there.
You do know Skytrak is not actually measuring club head speed? just ball speed, spin, launch and calculates the rest, where G80 measures club head speed and ball speed
I don't for a second believe the G80 is measuring club head speed accurately, when foresight is 25k and requires reflective tabs to be picked up and I'm fully aware what sky track measures and what's calculated.
Sir you lost me when you compare a Garmin to Skytrak. Saying Skytrac is as accurate as a Garmin device is like saying bread is as good as Yorkshire pudding with rib. ..well that's crazy talk. Skytrac is junk, fun toy for home video golf. Garmin has been in the tracking business since the early eighties. Garmin's 1st paying customer the US military. I'd bet Trackman uses Garmin patents...
It isn’t for me- got one for my birthday took it on a round of golf and then used it in my practice area the same day. On the course, the shot distance didn’t match the course distance. No real green reader either and didn’t sync my scorecard to the app. On the practice tee, wedges and woods were good but the reads on the middle irons , awful. Plus the target distances didn’t match the laser distances. I get what they are trying to do but not enough accurate information to be worth the money.. it’s the little engine that couldn’t. Save up your shackles for the real thing or lessons.
If you are complaining about a product being 3-7 yards off target because you are sticking those numbers within 1-2 feet consistently, then you'd be a Millionaire running the PGA, European, & Senior Tour like Tiger or Bernhard Langer & then you would have better things to worry about. BUY IT!!!!
I guess the real question as you say is how accurate are all the others? At the end of the day they are all mathematically estimating what the ball is doing. The only way you will ever get a true distance is hitting loads of balls and then physically measuring the distance with a tape measure.
Yeah I agree, as it's not measuring spin it's really is an estimate. But by Garmin admission its + or - 5 yards. Not 11. My main point is dont stick to its yardages as gospel.
Suppose it’s just based on an average spin rate across the board. I’d buy one. But that would change if topgolf/toptracerrange open a place in Sheffield
There's no way way to compare this under the circumstances you tested it under . You're just going under the assumption that the Skytrack is accurate with every shot ..and that's not the case . If you were to compare Skytrak to a Trackman you would see discrepancies as well.
But then you have wind, slope and humidity. So would have to be perfectly flat, at sea level with 0mph wind. So there is no true way to test. Its just put it up against other devices.
Sir. You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Though they are both fruit they don't offer the same taste. Sky Track is monitoring "The Club at Impact" mingled with "The Ball Speed" using the face of the club and angles to produce it's shot pattern. The G80 is using "Ball Speed" which is why when you play the games it can't show you "Shot Flights" but has a darn good algorithm on calculating distance. Monitors showing you ball flights are using infra-red as camera's to capture launch angle, ball speed, angle of attach, side spin, Dopler, etc to produce the shot shapes. This 3 Golf Ball Marker length, fits in your pocket GPS unit for only $499 is a Giant Slayer. In all the videos I see about accuracy "NOT ONE" person has measured out a distance with a range finder and hit to it. Wait... You can't put SkyTrak, Opti-Shot, & other monitors in your pocket and play on the range also right? GIANT KILLER BUY IT!!!!!
Ha! Disappointed? Launch monitor and GPS in one with incredible practice tools? It's for the range not for the garage. I've tested against gc2 and it's spot on in ballspeed and really close in distance overall. There is no spin but you should be on a range watching your ball flight and not comparing to an inferior product like the skytrak.
Dont really see the point of these G80s tbh.... Its a 500quid unit with gps as good as the free one on your phone, the practice mode is a bit pointless as the yardages are out so your 70yard shot will probably not be 70yard on it, so proves nothing, and the launch monitor data isnt accurate, so theres not much point of using the launch moniitor at all? Am i missing something?
Have to say this is a poor review of its launch monitor data. You are assuming that SkyTrak is always spot on correct. So you saying it is 11 yards out, doesn't mean it is 11 yards out from the truth, its 11 yards out from what SkyTrak thinks.
At what point do you beleive any launch monitor then? Sky track tracks spin, ball data, launch angle and direction. Garmin tracks ball speed and estimates the rest. Skytrack is proven to be fairly accurate. I trust skytrack which I've tested against GC Quad and Trackman over a Garmin that estimates practically every aspect of its data.
I'm not saying the Skytrak isnt accurate. But the results you have produced are relative to eachother and not the pure fact. For example, you say the SkyTrak can be 2 yards out, and Garmin say their tolerance is 5 yards. So that's potentially a 7 yard difference before a ball has been struck. And yes you mentioned it as a side point that you will test it, near the end (you see I still watched despite my opinion, and that's all this is), but I think the verdict could of been different and perhaps a bit more diplomatic than just writing it off
@@WHUFCarl if I'm honest you have to take every launch monitor with a pinch of salt, because unless you walk out to every ball and measure it your taking its word as gospel. Skytrack is a yard to 2 out from trackman but who says that 100% accurate. It's down for people to test themselves and ultimately beleive what they want from what's said. I said for the price it's ok but I wouldn't use it for out and out gapping. I completely appreciate your opinion and am nit saying what I say is gospel but my review is my opinion on it and from my experience skytrack numbers replicate for me on the course, so I do trust it.
I think if you were to hit 10 shots the average would be about the same with the g80 as with the other tech. You're always gonna get discrepancies between them.
@@davidcarr3636 I like the G80 very much, it is easy to see in daylight and shows all the yardages to hazards and, obviously front, center and back of green, with the ability to drag the pin position to as near as possible to the correct place for better accuracy. Owing to courses being closed, I haven't been able to use it for play recently, but I have erected a golf net in the back garden, and just played a virtual round, around Augusta National, which, whilst not being realistic, (I shot 83, and probably couldn't break 100 round there off 11 handicap), but it gives me a game to play in these lock down days. I'm really pleased I bought it if only for this feature. There are other modes to use to. I don't think the yardages are particularly accurate in virtual mode, my driver going shorter than I would expect, and my wedge going further, but for the limited technology it has, it gives great pleasure in being able to play a game in the garden. I am always reluctant to recommend anything to anyone, as opinions can vary so much, but I am pleased I bought it. Let me know if you have any questions about it, I'll do my best to answer Hope that helps 👍
Paul Milsom thank you I appreciate you going to the length of replying it is appreciated. When using on your net in the garden do you find the yardages accurate or not to what you hit on the course? Thank you again!
@@davidcarr3636 You're welcome. I find it difficult to get a true yardage with my driver. I hit a similar distance with it as my 4wood, (between 190 and 205), I've tried the driver off a tee and off the mat, and it's about the same. My hybrids and irons down to 9 iron are pretty representative of my course yardages, and my wedges seem to be a tad further. The putting out doesn't happen, the shot to the green ends in a target and it gives you a 1,2 or 3 putt depending on which circle you finish in, distance from the pin, that is a down side maybe, but it's more accurate hitting fairways, so I guess swings and roundabouts. I have only played 2 virtual rounds, and have scored better than I would have expected on the course, but it's a bit of fun, and better than just wacking balls in a net. For the price it's good, but you need to spend a lot more money if you want to have a proper simulator like the you tube channels have. I don't want to spend that kind of money. I'm happy with it, but I can imagine that some people wouldn't be.
@@paulmilsom1346 I was thinking of getting one for the virtual mode. I set up a net in my garden too and it doesn't matter if it's not totally accurate. It could make practicing more fun rather than just waking balls into a net. It will make you think about what you are doing more rather than just hitting balls.
It's nice as a launch monitor and a gps device, but the scorecard function is horrible. You can enter scores and puts and fairway hits, but after you finish the round, it is not very likely, that the scores are synced with tha app. Somtimes it syncs a few holes, sometimes nothing. It's totally useless for keeping track of your score. Very disappointed in that regard.
@@LWG I just played around with the scoring feature at home and found a pattern that leads to the issue. If you still have the device, you could try the following. Start a round at any course you like. No need to be near the coruse. Go to scroing and enter a score for the hole. Then switch to the next hole and so on. Then finish the round and save. Everything is synced with tha phone and works as expected. Then do the same, but enter your score and the score for a second player. After finishing the round and saving, you will find a scorecard with the final score but no hole scores on your phone. I did this several times with different courses and everytime I enter only my score it works, and everytime I enter a second players score it does not. Already wrote my findings to the support. Should hopefully help the developers. I am software developer and I like it, when bugs are fully reproducable. So this should help. If you still have the device, could you please do this test and tell me, if you get the same results?
Be another few years before these gadgets become good or usable...stick to your pros kit for accurate yardages etc etc or find a driving range with top tracer ... Nice review though Lee 👍
Lee Whittaker Golf oh nice I am down Liskeard where do you play and what do you think of the device I want to get one but tight on money being 16 I just think it is good for practise
I bought this peace of crap...it's a least 5 yds off at 20 yds and once you get from 7 iron to 4 iron it,s all the same distance...7 iron 150 carry.... 4 iron 160 carry....on GC quad my 4 iron carrys 190/200....that's indoor hitting, hopefully works better on the range....bit disappointed
Rubeluke you mean the instructions that say “within” 30cm not at 30cm. 1cm is within 30, so i have read the instructions and tested within the instructions. Maybe garmin should be more specific
How many people needs to tell you to try the G80 not that close? Do you wait for the CEO of Garmin to come and move it for you or you keep being stubborn and repeat the same shit you are saying
@@chuckthevoice3163 ill keep repeating what the INSTRUCTIONS say. Maybe the CEO of Garmin should tell whoever writes them to be more specific. This is the reason for a review to test IAW with instructions, so you can continue to think your right and ill continue to read the instructions.
Most others do mate I agree and in am going to retest it from exactly 1 foot away. But I like to test by recommendations to see how accurate instructions are.
Is this worth £500? What's your thoughts?
Lee Whittaker Golf I want one just to help for the moment and short game I get it is not as accurate but usefull
@Braeden Bickford no I'm not. The instructions clearly state within 1 foot or 30cm. So as per the instructions I'm within one foot. Maybe the instructions need to be more specific. So my review stands.
Seen a few pro’s do TH-cam videos on the Garmin G80 and this is the first mostly negative review I’ve seen. The ball was very close to the unit during the test, could this influence readings also was the Garmin taking into account Based on all the reviews I’ve seen I think I would still buy one of these.
Most other reviewers are paid to say its great remember thst. It wasn't a negative review, but it was tested within the instructions. The GPS part is fantastic.
Lee Whittaker Golf what are you doing golf wise during lockdown
Good honest review. I have the G80 and love it. Improved my game a lot, narrowing down carry distances.
You have to remember that to many amateur golfers (low h/c exception) they have at least 5-10 yard variance in their shots anyway so if it says 150, that doesn’t mean they’ll hit the shot 150.
Maybe not accurate enough for pro’s but for most mid h/c and above it’ll improve your club selection and scores loads. (I’m off 13 currently)
The straight shots were all pretty much bang on. It predicted your pulls to be shorter and your push to be longer as it was giving you the distance for if they were straight...it measures ball speed not ball direction.
Thanks for the review! I believe Garmin recommends the unit is 30cm away from the ball for best results, but I could be wrong? Thanks 👍
You are without doubt the most honest reviewer to date, thanks Lee . . for the transparency.
I've bought one to learn my carry distances it's great, the roll out is something you set yourself so I tend to ignore that as I want to know how far my shots carry so it's perfect for me
Imo for practice being accurate for wedges is more important than accurate for driver.... It doesn't really matter if your driver is 260 or 270 but that 10 yard for wedges is the difference between being on the green or chipping from the rough
Great as a range finder/GPS and good as a training aid is exactly what I want … just bought one, good review
Thanks mate. Appreciate your time doing this. It’s a valuable insight in to how it works.
No worries mate 👍
Fair enough review. Just remember it's also a GPS which alone would be worth half the price so the launch monitor side is more £200, although you maybe should have said this point at the start. I prefer GPS although I also have a laser because let's face it, we only even need the centre or back yardage, and as a low handicapper if anyone says give them a tip, I always say just use the back yardage because your always short. Personally I prefer arccos for yardages because its data from on course and grass. I've had a different portable launch monitor in the SC300 and found it was most useful learning wedge shots anyway, this is the area I found improved most as I learnt my half, three quarter and full yardages with wedges, which I saw instant improvement on the course with. So for this I think the Garmin is more than adequate for the price. You can get it for £350 of a certain site with discount code so in my opinion it's a bargain at this price.
I can deal with them yardages being slightly out for the sake of saving just a causal few grand
Yeah, this will be my next purchase. I’ve got an Approach G30, which is great. But I change my irons and wedges so often that my distances are never consistent. I’ll definitely be upgrading to the G80 for the launch monitor feature.
One of the reasons for the discrepancy might be to do with the proximity of the G80 to the ball. The set-up suggests 30 cm for the optimum results. On your test your ball position looked a bit closer than that. I don't have one, so it might just be an inconsistent device.
Thats what I was thinking the ball is too close to the Garmin
Can it be you have the ball to close to the unit? It’s suppose to be 1 foot and you have it just a couple of inch. 🤔
Maybe 🤷♂️ I'll have to test it
@@LWG I use one, and it works better a bit further from the ball.
It's a fun thing for me, practising in the garden, but the GPS is great, then again, my wife has the g30 which is as good, if a bit small
@@LWG Did you try different ball positions? Any difference?
Yeah would be interesting to see a test with the ball in the right position
Hi Lee, seems to be a little pilot error in this one. If you go to settings, you'll find you can adjust the roll factor this improves the accuracy of the total distance. I've got one of these and checked it against QC Quad and a 'tape measure' - interesting - given that the tape measure is accurate, neither GC Quad or the Garmin G80 gives exact but I found both to be very close - certainly more accurate than any golfers club yardage/consistency. I agree with you on the matter of the GPS yardage on holes for the courses I've used it on - but like you tend to laser within 150yards
Thanks Dave, I'll go check it out. But I rarely use total distance on anything from a launch monitor as it's just a guess. Everytime a ball lands in real life its pot luck.
Now here’s an idea...hit a ball on the course (or range), pace it out, write it down. Note your averages and maximum distances and keep them in a notebook or memorise them.
I did that 25 years ago and am fortunate to still hit to the same yardages.
Thanks for the review. What I found curious was that your swing appeared to be the same for each of your shots....and the swing speed on the Garmin seemed to reflect that, as there was much less variance with the calculated swing speeds. SkyTrack was all over the place. No way you were ONLY swinging 100 on that second Driver shot (as SkyTrack claims). You're a bit "flippy" at the bottom of your downswing, which may give the SkyTrack some issues, as it is offset compared to the Garmin.....also, the Garmin is sitting somewhat between your ball and the SkyTrack. I think there are limitations to both launch monitors.
To me this all depends on how strait you can hit the ball, because it can’t see where you’ve hit it on the face if you pull it the numbers will be off. Notice on the strait shots there wasn’t much in it.
For the G80, do we need to set to another club when were changing clubs? or itll detect it by itself?
There’s no club detection and no input for this. It just measures the speed of your swing and ball speed and estimates carry distance.
Does the G80 work on a practice mat that has a tendency to move..? Mainly want to use this in the garden hitting into a practice net. My mat occasionally slides forward on the concrete, so would that movement mess up the data collection on the G80..?
No idea I'm afraid
$350 last wk on Amazon prime day!
Good review. I purchased the G80 and have returned it, because none of the practice data is recorded on your device and you cannot select clubs, you have zero stats on any clubs in practice sessions. The app is very weak. Other than that is is an OK device, the data it gives is solid and the target practice and virtual rounds mode is nice.
Just received mine, but the display is very dark, and the colors were drab, almost black and white. Was yours the same, or was your display colorful?
The reason for the higher ball speed differences is that skytrak underestimates ball speeds in the 130 mph range by 3 mph and in the 160 mph range by 5 mph. So I would say that the garmin is more close to the truth on the longer shots.
Just out of curiosity, what makes you assume it's the SkyTrak that's always the most accurate of the two? The SkyTrak I use doesn't match the GCQuad, the GCQuad doesn't match the TrackMan, the TrackMan doesn't match the Full Swing. If you want to claim one is more accurate than the other you really need to compare it with real life measurements, not just assume the most expensive one is the most accurate.
exactly - I bet the Garmin is more accurate than Skytrack. Are you familiar with the other products the engineers at Garmin make? Think avionics, for starters.
So how do you test against “real life” because elements, humidity, height above sea level get in the way. And if skytrack, trackman and GC Quad are all inaccurate what’s even the point of the Garmin in the first place? Because that’s just as inaccurate. It has to be tested against something, I used skytrack and in the 2 years I’ve had it I’ve found it to be accurate enough for my personal distances.
Rob Strong statement for something that also records air shots with no ball in the way and gives a distance.
Lee Whittaker Golf what I meant was taking them to a range, doing the same thing and checking the actual distances with a rangefinder. Obviously that would require a range that is pretty empty though or it'd be a nightmare.
Ken North range balls aren’t full distance balls and you have the elements still. At some point you have to believe something.
Could some of the discrepancies be down to Skytrax taking dispersion in to account? We all.know draw goes further fade goes shorter but Garmin isn't getting the spin or direction details. I would think variance would naturally be tuned to be better for shorter or longer clubs.
The Harmon also says the ball should be 1 foot away from the device when using. That might make a difference too. You seemed to be pretty close to it.
Agreed, says should be placed a grips length away from the ball. If I had it that close I’d hit lol!
Nice video man, I've just bought the g80 it's amazing in my eyes, maybe 5 yards out the odd time but so are the others 🤣 still for that price it's amazing
How many players can play at once?
Hi Lee. Just bought the Garmin after watching your video - I thought it would still be worthwhile as a practice aid during the lockdown. I don't have a net yet so I tried indoor with a foam ball but it does not seem to work for me. It registers a swing (by beeping) but does not return any number. Do you think it needs to be a real ball for it to work? Does it need a ball at all to work? Just wondering if my unit has malfunction. I would appreciate your response. Thanks.
I would highly assume it needs to be a real ball to work. I have tried to trick it without a ball before and it did nothing. So my guess is it needs to be a real ball. A foam ball won't get the right launch speed
@@LWG i. Thanks for your reply. I think I found found something.
It does work with a foam ball but only with bright white ones. Yellowish balls do not seem to work. The other interesting thing, I think you are right, the unit must be really 'seeing' the ball as the Garmin says the (foam) ball speed is slower than the club.
It's definitely a club short or even more on some occasions but I still enjoy it. My tempo was 5+ and smash factor many times was 1.5+. So if you're buying it strickly for a launch monitor, probably not worth it, but I'll use the GPS quite a bit.
Couldn't agree more and its a bit of fun at the range
Cheers Lee. Did you set the roll factor in the settings in warm up. I also found the closer the ball is to the G80 and not at the recommended 1 foot distance makes a difference too. I bought one of these before xmas new at for £360. As we are in lock down i set up my own nets etc. Im no expert golfer but finding the G80 an excellent tool. My club head speed in my irons around 79/80 mph so experimenting with different makes of ball i can see the total distances change too.
Tony, I didn't set the roll factor as I don't take any notice of roll on simulators mate. A lot of people have said about the 1 foot thing but it does say "within" 1 foot in the manual. I am going to test this against GC Quad when we are allowed to play out again and put it exactly 1 foot away. If it is 1 foot that is recommended then it should specify that in the manual. As a reviewer I test as per the manual or marketing when it comes to clubs.
Thanks for your comment. Just want to say I love my G80. Its great fun at the range but I don't pay a lot of attention to its launch monitor data.
I've really been considering this but doesn't seem to be a substitute to skytrak
The discrepancy in shot distance is because of the curve/side spin. G80 doesn't factor in fade or draw, so every shot is calculated as going straight.
Do you know if using limited flight range balls over normal balls would make a difference in the readings with the G80? If not would it be possible for a video on it thanks👍🏼
Good question and i will do a video on it.
Lee Whittaker Golf thanks a lot Lee! This is a deal breaker as to whether i invest in one😅👍🏼
Hey lee great video, what you think g80 vs s62 watch, what worth more for the money and more usable. Thanks
The watch
Great review. Thank you!
A better test is are the numbers internally consistent i.e if you make two swings faster and slower is it showing a difference.. comparing across models is like measuring your weight against different scales at the bathroom the gym etc.. there will be absolute differences (in the formula for calculating carry for example, there is no standardisation ) since the ball and club speed match somewhat with strack that's good enough for me)
Nice video. I think the discrepancies you saw were do to spin. When you drew the ball the G80 was saying less and when you faded the ball it showed a greater distance. When you hit the ball straight, it was spot on.
Exactly what I was going to say. It won't take spin into it so 8f you have a weak fade and spinning high it takes it as straight. So best to use it on the good strikes straight which is the data you want
Does it know the exact lofts of your clubs? Skytrack reads actual launch doesn't it? Garmin can only predict based on your speed and loft, if the loft on your 7 is 1 or 2 degrees different to the standard setting it'll make a decent bit of difference i would think?
Skytrak does read launch yes mate. I didn't tell the Garmin any club I was using as surely if its accurate it shouldn't matter. Plus people present different launches and lofts regardless of the clubs actual loft.
The virtual round, even if not the most accurate, might make me go to the range a little more. I might have to buy this.
It’s a bit of fun and makes range time a bit more interesting.
while lockdown still on progress, can i use this devise for target 5, 10, 15, 20 until 50 yard in my backyard, TQ
I'm on the fence between a sky caddie 500 vs this garmin g80. The sky caddie looks much nicer - but requires an annual fee - which is a bit of a let down.
I had the G8 and upgraded to the G80 when it first came out and got rid of it. Not because I didnt find it accurate or useful, I just hated the fact they got rid of the club tracking feature from the G8 and the screen looked much more washed out and less vibrant. Will wait for the next device which probably won't be long as it's a great little thing to have
Have you done a test on Optishot
Great review Lee, can you explain unlike all the other similar LM's ,on this you don't need to input which club you are hitting with. ???
I never have mate and it should make no dufference.
@@LWG How can it calculate distance if it doesn't know what club you hit? it surely calculates the distance from the launch angle in it's memory so if it thinks you're hitting a 7, it can't calculate distance for a 4 iron accurately
@@charliered105 it has a built in radar. So it should take each shot on its merit. Irrespective of club
Did your golf studio/shop use to be a vape shop and was it yours
i have one it is great . but i put with 30 cm from the ball it makes it more accurate
Says who? I'm not questioning you in a bad way but I'd genuinley like to know where it says this as the instructions don't.
It is in the instructions.. for best results, place ball approximately 30cm from the device
joe soap no its not, it clearly states “within” not approximately
@@LWG Nah you were putting the ball way to close to the device. How do you expect it to make valid calculations when you're not even putting it the correct length away
MusicBoi93 read the instructions and pay particular attention to the word “within”
Lee have you tested the G80 a bit further away from the ball? As in a previous post, you seemed to have the G80 too close to the ball during testing.
Not had chance yet but I do plan on doing that
@@LWG When you do the test be sure to try and take into account the amount of side spin on the ball. We know the G80 doesn't measure spin at all so that would explain the difference in measurements. Maybe even try to hit a few large fades or draws to see if the variations are larger.
I'm not sure you quite understand the physics involved when you say "you're never going to know" if it's measurements are accurate, because its limitations are obvious from that testing and other testing i've seen on youtube. Ball speed measurement is pretty flawless, but as it doesn't measure spin, it's simulating based off perfect strike for the given launch angle and ball speed. that means for a typical 7i launch angle it's calculating it with about 6500-7000 spin with no curvature, because that's all it can do with the data it collects...... When you hit one straight down the middle with a good strike it was pretty much spot on... when you start slicing and hooking it's going to increase the level of error in its estimations. hit to the right with a fade, it estimated over (couldn't detect the higher spin) and when you missed left with a draw it estimated under (couldn't detect the drop off in spin) All you have to do is watch your shot shape through the air and figure out if it's going to have slightly over or under estimated and compare it to you baseline of good straight shots.
As a training aid, if you're missing green left or right by 5-10 yards it doesn't matter how accurate your distances are. From what you've shown in your testing I think it's a great gapping tool for people who can't afford the 20k launch monitors. just note the distances from your good clean strikes and ignore any where you're significantly off line and it appears as if it would be pretty accurate within a yard or two. Also as someone trying to increase their ball speed it seems like the best option for accurate ball speed measurements and tracking progress.
There's a comparison video of Garmin vs Flight scope , the numbers are quiet close. And flight scope is far superior launch monitor than Skytrak
SkyTrak had an 8mph swing difference between your 2nd and 3rd swing with driver. That’s massive.. do you doubt those numbers?
I dont look at the head speed as it's a calculation. The ball speed is measured.
Skytrak numbers seem a bit off- 256 carry from 100mph club speed seems to be an overestimate
Thanks for this, my daughters a huge golfer and was gonna buy this for her, don't know now
It's great as a GPS and the launch monitor is fun at the range. The numbers on launch monitor are ok, it's just dont gap her with the numbers.
Mark Zola81 rapsodo mobile launch monitor is the same price with a ton more options, most important being that it records your shot with a ball tracer, so you can see everything combined with the numbers
Good review mate. I use a Garmin S60 watch for when I play a round so I'm looking for a training aid for the range or my net in the garden, that's why I watched this review. You can get them for £300 now so would you say it's worth a punt?
I like it mate, the GPS is good and the launch monitor is a bit of fun at the range. I just personally don't take a great deal of real world notice of the data given.
On average it’s about 10 yards shorter: I can still work with that because of how consistent it is
Not certain you are measuring the tolerances stated by Garmin correctly.
Surely Garmin did not state their tolerances were based on Skytrak???
There is no way that Skytrak is spot on for carry either as it doesn't track the ball down range, so it's just a calculation based on initial ball characteristics after impact.
So is GC Quad and that is considered one of the best launch monitors around.
Great insight...think I'll just buy the cheaper one...
Seemed to be the slightly off centre hits that it messed up on.
You are presuming that Skytrack is accurate. I have watched a number of comparisons between Skytrack and Trackman and the carry distances show large discrepancies. In one of the videos shots with a 6 iron were up to 15 yards out.
I have the Flightscope mevo and I think it’s more accurate than the Garmin, a few customers said that the garmin had over-heating issues 🤔
Not had it long enough to find that issue but I will report if I do.
@@LWG for me it was between the mevo or the garmin g80, but I decided to go with the mevo. I think they are both pretty good and handy to use, like if you go to the range, rather than taking your skytrak unit you can just bring your garmin 👍
@@thebackyardgolfer7010 exactly why.i bought it. Also for the yardages on blind holes or to.pinpoint flags locations.
@@LWG looks good, let us know in about a month how it goes 👍
Ive only had issues with heat when in direct sunlight in temps over 90 F
I had sky track and i didn't find it to be that accurate compared to my club trackman, i found it to be a club out on most shots so i got rid of it. for the price the G80 i think is a good tool. can you compare both with trackman?
I can compare both with GC Quad
Do you have to position the device that close to where you hit the ball? I would probably hit the thing occasionally if that is so.
UPDATE: Manual says max 30 cm, probably safe there.
You do know Skytrak is not actually measuring club head speed? just ball speed, spin, launch and calculates the rest, where G80 measures club head speed and ball speed
I don't for a second believe the G80 is measuring club head speed accurately, when foresight is 25k and requires reflective tabs to be picked up and I'm fully aware what sky track measures and what's calculated.
Sir you lost me when you compare a Garmin to Skytrak. Saying Skytrac is as accurate as a Garmin device is like saying bread is as good as Yorkshire pudding with rib. ..well that's crazy talk. Skytrac is junk, fun toy for home video golf. Garmin has been in the tracking business since the early eighties. Garmin's 1st paying customer the US military. I'd bet Trackman uses Garmin patents...
I would be too worried about hitting something that is placed so close to the ball .... :=)
You can have it about a foot away.
Well worth the money
Who else was waiting for him to hit the gps with the driver😂🍺🇨🇦
It isn’t for me- got one for my birthday took it on a round of golf and then used it in my practice area the same day. On the course, the shot distance didn’t match the course distance. No real green reader either and didn’t sync my scorecard to the app. On the practice tee, wedges and woods were good but the reads on the middle irons , awful. Plus the target distances didn’t match the laser distances. I get what they are trying to do but not enough accurate information to be worth the money.. it’s the little engine that couldn’t. Save up your shackles for the real thing or lessons.
What lessons have to do with this?
Chuck TheVoice I’m not sure what your asking? He asked if it was worth the money and I responded accordingly.
If you are complaining about a product being 3-7 yards off target because you are sticking those numbers within 1-2 feet consistently, then you'd be a Millionaire running the PGA, European, & Senior Tour like Tiger or Bernhard Langer & then you would have better things to worry about. BUY IT!!!!
I guess the real question as you say is how accurate are all the others? At the end of the day they are all mathematically estimating what the ball is doing. The only way you will ever get a true distance is hitting loads of balls and then physically measuring the distance with a tape measure.
Mscorecard is a free Android app that has all the features except launch monitor
Great video! No point at buying a swing monitor yet as they are far too erratic!
Seems to me, the only issue it has is with spin that would throw out the numbers
Yeah I agree, as it's not measuring spin it's really is an estimate. But by Garmin admission its + or - 5 yards. Not 11. My main point is dont stick to its yardages as gospel.
Suppose it’s just based on an average spin rate across the board. I’d buy one. But that would change if topgolf/toptracerrange open a place in Sheffield
There's no way way to compare this under the circumstances you tested it under . You're just going under the assumption that the Skytrack is accurate with every shot ..and that's not the case . If you were to compare Skytrak to a Trackman you would see discrepancies as well.
I've done that and found it pretty accurate. So how would you suggest I test it then?
@@LWG Only true way would be to take it out on the course . Hit a shot , use GPS to measure the actual distance of shot and compare .
But then you have wind, slope and humidity. So would have to be perfectly flat, at sea level with 0mph wind. So there is no true way to test. Its just put it up against other devices.
Sir. You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Though they are both fruit they don't offer the same taste. Sky Track is monitoring "The Club at Impact" mingled with "The Ball Speed" using the face of the club and angles to produce it's shot pattern. The G80 is using "Ball Speed" which is why when you play the games it can't show you "Shot Flights" but has a darn good algorithm on calculating distance. Monitors showing you ball flights are using infra-red as camera's to capture launch angle, ball speed, angle of attach, side spin, Dopler, etc to produce the shot shapes. This 3 Golf Ball Marker length, fits in your pocket GPS unit for only $499 is a Giant Slayer. In all the videos I see about accuracy "NOT ONE" person has measured out a distance with a range finder and hit to it. Wait... You can't put SkyTrak, Opti-Shot, & other monitors in your pocket and play on the range also right? GIANT KILLER BUY IT!!!!!
Ha! Disappointed? Launch monitor and GPS in one with incredible practice tools? It's for the range not for the garage. I've tested against gc2 and it's spot on in ballspeed and really close in distance overall. There is no spin but you should be on a range watching your ball flight and not comparing to an inferior product like the skytrak.
Inferior product that’s 4 times the price and just a launch monitor vs a £500 multi use product 😂😂 nice one
Dont really see the point of these G80s tbh.... Its a 500quid unit with gps as good as the free one on your phone, the practice mode is a bit pointless as the yardages are out so your 70yard shot will probably not be 70yard on it, so proves nothing, and the launch monitor data isnt accurate, so theres not much point of using the launch moniitor at all? Am i missing something?
Very honest review. £340 here in Canada, on the fence.
Have to say this is a poor review of its launch monitor data. You are assuming that SkyTrak is always spot on correct. So you saying it is 11 yards out, doesn't mean it is 11 yards out from the truth, its 11 yards out from what SkyTrak thinks.
At what point do you beleive any launch monitor then? Sky track tracks spin, ball data, launch angle and direction. Garmin tracks ball speed and estimates the rest. Skytrack is proven to be fairly accurate. I trust skytrack which I've tested against GC Quad and Trackman over a Garmin that estimates practically every aspect of its data.
And I clearly state I will test the Garmin against GC Quad at the next opportunity.
I'm not saying the Skytrak isnt accurate. But the results you have produced are relative to eachother and not the pure fact. For example, you say the SkyTrak can be 2 yards out, and Garmin say their tolerance is 5 yards. So that's potentially a 7 yard difference before a ball has been struck.
And yes you mentioned it as a side point that you will test it, near the end (you see I still watched despite my opinion, and that's all this is), but I think the verdict could of been different and perhaps a bit more diplomatic than just writing it off
This is just my feedback, I happen to agree that I dont think it's a product I would bother with.
@@WHUFCarl if I'm honest you have to take every launch monitor with a pinch of salt, because unless you walk out to every ball and measure it your taking its word as gospel. Skytrack is a yard to 2 out from trackman but who says that 100% accurate. It's down for people to test themselves and ultimately beleive what they want from what's said. I said for the price it's ok but I wouldn't use it for out and out gapping. I completely appreciate your opinion and am nit saying what I say is gospel but my review is my opinion on it and from my experience skytrack numbers replicate for me on the course, so I do trust it.
I think if you were to hit 10 shots the average would be about the same with the g80 as with the other tech. You're always gonna get discrepancies between them.
Now £385 so certainly peak interest
I bought one from Golf Support for £379
Paul Milsom hi - after a few weeks what is your assessment on the g80 please? Be interested to know if you have 2 minutes please?
@@davidcarr3636 I like the G80 very much, it is easy to see in daylight and shows all the yardages to hazards and, obviously front, center and back of green, with the ability to drag the pin position to as near as possible to the correct place for better accuracy. Owing to courses being closed, I haven't been able to use it for play recently, but I have erected a golf net in the back garden, and just played a virtual round, around Augusta National, which, whilst not being realistic, (I shot 83, and probably couldn't break 100 round there off 11 handicap), but it gives me a game to play in these lock down days. I'm really pleased I bought it if only for this feature.
There are other modes to use to.
I don't think the yardages are particularly accurate in virtual mode, my driver going shorter than I would expect, and my wedge going further, but for the limited technology it has, it gives great pleasure in being able to play a game in the garden.
I am always reluctant to recommend anything to anyone, as opinions can vary so much, but I am pleased I bought it.
Let me know if you have any questions about it, I'll do my best to answer
Hope that helps 👍
Paul Milsom thank you I appreciate you going to the length of replying it is appreciated. When using on your net in the garden do you find the yardages accurate or not to what you hit on the course? Thank you again!
@@davidcarr3636 You're welcome.
I find it difficult to get a true yardage with my driver. I hit a similar distance with it as my 4wood, (between 190 and 205), I've tried the driver off a tee and off the mat, and it's about the same.
My hybrids and irons down to 9 iron are pretty representative of my course yardages, and my wedges seem to be a tad further.
The putting out doesn't happen, the shot to the green ends in a target and it gives you a 1,2 or 3 putt depending on which circle you finish in, distance from the pin, that is a down side maybe, but it's more accurate hitting fairways, so I guess swings and roundabouts.
I have only played 2 virtual rounds, and have scored better than I would have expected on the course, but it's a bit of fun, and better than just wacking balls in a net.
For the price it's good, but you need to spend a lot more money if you want to have a proper simulator like the you tube channels have. I don't want to spend that kind of money.
I'm happy with it, but I can imagine that some people wouldn't be.
@@paulmilsom1346 I was thinking of getting one for the virtual mode. I set up a net in my garden too and it doesn't matter if it's not totally accurate. It could make practicing more fun rather than just waking balls into a net. It will make you think about what you are doing more rather than just hitting balls.
It's nice as a launch monitor and a gps device, but the scorecard function is horrible. You can enter scores and puts and fairway hits, but after you finish the round, it is not very likely, that the scores are synced with tha app. Somtimes it syncs a few holes, sometimes nothing. It's totally useless for keeping track of your score. Very disappointed in that regard.
Something I didn't look at during the review. Thanks for the info
@@LWG I just played around with the scoring feature at home and found a pattern that leads to the issue. If you still have the device, you could try the following. Start a round at any course you like. No need to be near the coruse. Go to scroing and enter a score for the hole. Then switch to the next hole and so on. Then finish the round and save. Everything is synced with tha phone and works as expected. Then do the same, but enter your score and the score for a second player. After finishing the round and saving, you will find a scorecard with the final score but no hole scores on your phone. I did this several times with different courses and everytime I enter only my score it works, and everytime I enter a second players score it does not. Already wrote my findings to the support. Should hopefully help the developers. I am software developer and I like it, when bugs are fully reproducable. So this should help. If you still have the device, could you please do this test and tell me, if you get the same results?
@@ThereIsProbablyNoGod I'll take a look
You are great
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You might have the Garmin too close. Should be about a foot away.
Not according to the instructions mate. It says "within" a foot. So I like to test exactly what they say.
Be another few years before these gadgets become good or usable...stick to your pros kit for accurate yardages etc etc or find a driving range with top tracer ... Nice review though Lee 👍
He’s obviously closer than a foot away!!
You would get better results with the Garmin if you had it 1 ft away from the ball you're hitting. You have it too close to the ball.
Not according to the instructions I don't. Clearly states "within" 1 foot.
wow you use a laser AND the g80? that must slow down play and annoy your playing partners.
Not really
You from plymouth
Yes mate
Lee Whittaker Golf oh nice I am down Liskeard where do you play and what do you think of the device I want to get one but tight on money being 16 I just think it is good for practise
@@jellyjamboy696 whitsand bay is my club mate.
Lee Whittaker Golf oh nice
I bought this peace of crap...it's a least 5 yds off at 20 yds and once you get from 7 iron to 4 iron it,s all the same distance...7 iron 150 carry.... 4 iron 160 carry....on GC quad my 4 iron carrys 190/200....that's indoor hitting, hopefully works better on the range....bit disappointed
You are too close to the G80. Makes a huge difference. Please read the directions, so you can deliver an accurate assessment!!
Rubeluke you mean the instructions that say “within” 30cm not at 30cm. 1cm is within 30, so i have read the instructions and tested within the instructions. Maybe garmin should be more specific
How many people needs to tell you to try the G80 not that close? Do you wait for the CEO of Garmin to come and move it for you or you keep being stubborn and repeat the same shit you are saying
@@chuckthevoice3163 ill keep repeating what the INSTRUCTIONS say. Maybe the CEO of Garmin should tell whoever writes them to be more specific. This is the reason for a review to test IAW with instructions, so you can continue to think your right and ill continue to read the instructions.
Poor review. Unit too close ball, and you comment on the rollout being incorrect but don’t use the adjustment slider.
Or just book a gapping test with your pro and save yourself a fortune.., 😂😂
You put the G80 way to close to the ball... needs to be 1 feet not 3 inches...
Says who? Instructions say "within" 1 foot. 3 inches is within one foot.
Says me. Try it and it works better. One grip length is perfect.
@@chuckthevoice3163 shame the instructions dont say so.
Not sure this is a fair review as he didn’t read the instructions and place the ball a foot away from the device
The instructions clearly state "within" one foot. Not exactly one foot. So I'm within that distance.
Lee Whittaker Golf sorry if I got that wrong after watching yours I watch a couple others and they made a point of being a foot away
Most others do mate I agree and in am going to retest it from exactly 1 foot away. But I like to test by recommendations to see how accurate instructions are.
The ball is to close to the garmin unit
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@@LWG lol... Cheers
all you guys says it is very expensive, $500 is nothing, I fish and use $1299 Garmin fish finders is a 70k boat, so this is nothing
still prefer my skycaddy VC300, it also gives me my launch, and that for 400 pounds
But this is also a GPS 🤷♂️
I know, but with my VC 300 I can also see and register older shots so I can build up history by the app on my phone
I know, but with my VC300 I can also build up history by the app on my phone. And I already have a gps watch
Bought one second hand, total rubbish, club speed and ball speed 100% off, carry close, that's it. AVOID
Way too close to the ball. I wouldn’t base a decision to purchase one based on this review....
Not according to the instructions it wasn’t