Why The iPad Does NOT NEED macOS
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iPad don’t need macOS
It needs full Mac apps
Absolutely wrong. The interview you showed is essentially marketing speak for “we don’t want the iPad and the Mac to have too many overlapping features because we want our costumers to buy both.” Apple has not been listening to us at all. The iPad, especially the Pro, is ridiculously expensive, and at such a heavy price point, there is no reason why the device should be lacking so many software features. People want macOS because it would immediately solve most if not all of the issues people have been complaining about for years. And yes, it would take some adjustment to allow it to be controlled via touch, but I think it 100% is necessary. Either that, or a full revamp of iPadOS is necessary. They say that the iPad is magical or whatever and can become anything, but I disagree because it’s software is so limiting that the only things is does best are watching media, gaming, and using the Apple Pencil. The hardware is world-class and it could become the magical product Apple says it is, but the iPad gets macOS or something similar, it will forever be an accessory device.
Bro it literally is so dumb that iPadOS isn't more computer/mac-like because it's so powerful and now costs Macbook level amounts. Even with iPadOS being like a mac in this hypothetical, PEOPLE WOULD STILL BUY BOTH AS APPLE WANTS BECAUSE IPAD PROS ONLY HAVE THE BASE LEVEL CHIP AND LOW RAM! Mac sales are already constantly lowering. Instead of trying to encourage mac sales through stupid iPad bottlenecking, they should use iPad as a gateway to MacOS and replace the declining mac sales with ipad sales while making more updates to software that will be on both platforms, that way they can neglect ipads about as much without leaving customers without updates.
@@nylotical Exactly. I would still buy a Mac if the iPad had the software we all want. I just wouldn’t use it nearly as much, but I would definitely buy and own it for those times I do need a standard computer.
@xeon3081 is 💯% correct. I couldn’t have stated it any better.
This video is basically Nikias towing the Apple party line instead of any actual real critical thought on the matter. He will be the first to herald the iPad as the “next coming” and post an “I was wrong” video when and if Apple does bring a macOS mode to the iPad.
@@xeon3081Yup. I would have an iPad for *all* my mobile computing needs and a Mac desktop for my higher end desktop computing needs.
They’d still have a customer that owns both devices, but this time the customer would be happy. Rather than pissed off as I am now, with my gimped iPad that can only do big iPhone tasks, instead of small Mac tasks. So stupid.
They don't need to do *anything* other than simply open up the app store. That's it. Done. Us developers would resolve the remaining issues. Never going to happen though. I'll stick with Android.
I don’t want macOS on my iPad, but I want iPadOS and iPad apps to be more capable.
I think it is definitely possible to make the app really capable while having a touch-first interface, Serif done it with their Affinity suite so I believe it could be done. A lot of app developers (including Apple themselves) don’t really see iPad as a pro creating tool, but more of a pro consuming tool, and it shows in the app they created, just look at what Adobe has done with Photoshop for iPad. Final Cut Pro for iPad doesn’t even play along with Final Cut Pro for mac, you can only “hand it over to the mac”. And when the project sent to a mac, I lose the ability to use AI soundtrack and live drawing. My point is, I hope iPad could be more capable by itself, and I hope it work better with my mac. They don’t have to replace each other, they just work differently.
I love my M2 iPad Pro and I really would love to work more on it, please let me.
You’re missing the point of a portable tablet like device. And the convenience of a portable computer like device. Two different tools. Computers are always going to be better at computer things that’s just where our technology is right now for another 20-30 years maybe. The human race moves slowly to adopt new ways of computing. Most of the older generation is used to using a mouse and keyboard. That’s why businesses and most systems use this traditional method of computing and why software developers are still making the best versions for this type of computer. iPads could be the next generation of computing and computers but it wouldn’t be adopted by most because it’s not familiar and requires learning curve and just doesn’t compare to this fast work style and flow they’ve created over decades already. So Apple keeps the iPad as a tablet and knows this demographic. People who need to manipulate content and creations on their huge advanced touch screen. If you use it as a Netflix device or try to do traditional computer work like editing videos it’s not going to be a very memorable device. But if you’re making digital art and animations with the Apple Pencil and using it as a MiDi controller for musicians or even digital art it shines. This device is the best in its category and that category your work might not be in there.. Does that make sense? Yes it can do a lot of things like edit videos and file mange but you’ll have to make compromises because it’s a touch based tablet. Made for drag and drop and other ways of doing things.
This is the most reasonable thing I’ve seen in this comment section. Nailed it
@@Realdaveromero thank you for taking time to respond, but I feel like there was a misunderstanding here. I don’t want my iPad to become a computer, I want my iPad to work better in an iPad-way, and I want iPad to work better with mac. Like I mentioned in the comment, I think it would be more interesting to use final cut if I can send the project to my mac for fast editing and send it back to my iPad (or just connect final cut for iPad to my mac) for AI soundtracks and live drawing. I understand that they are different tools and would perform better in different work, and I appreciate that. I enjoy working on iPad and I wish it would be more capable in its own way.
@@vincentchou2252 it does work well with Mac already! And Apple is working on a Mac version or Final Cut Pro right now with AI and a version that is more easily exchangeable with iPad Final Cut Pro projects it just takes time my friend. And the reason you can write on the screen with iPad Final Cut Pro is because it’s made for that and it’s made for a quick on the go version of video editing. If you have Final Cut Pro for Mac why would you want to use a quick option to write on the screen rather than use a professional font and font animations? Are you a professional video editor? What do you do for work?
@@Realdaveromero the reason live drawing is awesome is because it’s stylish, it makes your video unique with your own handwriting or drawing, which no existing font can provide. It is a creative choice. For most NLE on a traditional computer, it is a very time consuming process to achieve what live drawing on iPad can do in seconds, creators that have tried to pull this off on a traditional NLE would agree with me. It is not just for quickly putting words on the screen. It is called “Live Drawing” not “Live Writing”. Putting words on the screen through typing is not that hard and time consuming on iPad anyway, Apple did already support various fonts in FCP for iPad.
This is actually the perfect example for what I mentioned in previous comments. The iPad is a great tool for the drawing part, and mac is a faster, more familiar editing experience. Just let iPad does what it does best and mac as well. Let them join forces and be great together. Don’t force me to use a traditional way that spends so many time, while iPad has live drawing but I just can’t access it if the project is already on my mac.
As for the future updates you mentioned, they are not officially out yet so I can’t comment on them now. For now, it is just super hard for iPad to do what it does best to help the project once the project is sent to a mac. Also, if Apple really is developing updates that makes them work better together and can exchange projects, doesn’t that just prove my point?
It is fine that you think there is nothing more to be desired for the iPad, good for you. But there are some people out there, hoping for an even better iPad experience because they love to work on their iPad so much. You don’t have to be so aggressive about it.
Saving this along with other bangers like “why you don’t need to be rich” and “dying is actually kind of cool”
I think the future is the iPad as the screen of the MacBook and when detached is the iPad and when attached is a powerful computer. Similar to the Surface Book. The only concern from Apple would be how much to charge for it without leaving money on the table by having 2 separate devices.
Why not having the option to have macOS for those who need it. I've used my iPad as an extension of my mac display and interacted with macOS on my ipad screen using the apple pencil. It was great and very useful.
Exactly. If they really wanted the iPad to be a magical piece of glass, they would allow this. Let’s face it: he is only echoing what Apple says. Believe me, if Apple changed their mind one day and allowed macOS on the iPad the exact way he’s describing how it wouldn’t work, he would have a video up within hours talking about how great it was.
dude , I have privilege to own samsung tab and ipad pro, and I never want a macOS on my iPad, its technically not possible. What I want is samsung dex like experience on my iPad. I want samsung dex on my apple ecosystem, if snapdragon 8 gen 2 is able to do that why M2 chip isn't ??? put dex like OS on ipad wont make people ditch their macbook, just like samsung dex doesn't make people replace their windows laptop.
BTW stage manager is "Usable" but really annoying to deal with. I still really love apple ecosystem BUT they really have to revamp ipadOS. Better multi task and external monitor support, better file management system, and better 3rd party peripheral.
This should be the only comment. I would be fine if apple makes the stage manager better
If that works for you, that’s great, but others should be able to use their $1000+ device as they’d like without limiting software.
it's technically not hard actually
For some of us it isn't necessarily the price but the convenience of being able to dual boot MAC OS on an ipad to run features that ONLY MAC can do. It will be nice to not have to figure out if I need to bring my ipad or mac or both for certain projects when I am on the go. I can do it all with one device.
Even though Apple will never allow it for very obvious reasons (see my post), that does not mean macOS developers would allow their apps to be used on an iPad. If you take the example of iPad apps on macOS, around 95%+ of them the devs said no.
You are 100% right.
I have both, MacBook and iPad, and they are complementary. I like my MacBook for the pro apps like Lightroom and Photoshop (I mean the real apps, not like these available on iPad), or FinalCut Pro and I like my iPad for the touch screen, and versatility of the device when you attached a keyboard.
I think the biggest issue the ipad ran into was the introduction of the magic keyboard. I think people forget that it's meant to be an addition to the ipad not the accessory that flips it into a macbook. I personally don't use a magic keyboard for this reason. I have a wireless keyboard that I incorporate into my workflow when I'm home and at a desk but I use my ipad like a touch devise 75-80% of the time
This is why the Smart Keyboard Folio continues to be the better keyboard for iPad. It’s more flexible, lighter, and also waterproof. And unlike the Magic Keyboard, you still feel like you are using a tablet computer and not some cosplay MacBook. I’ll never buy a Magic Keyboard again. I’d rather put that $350 towards a MacBook Air for when I need a full computer while on the go
I think people also forget that iPhones are over $1,000. They say the iPad is so expensive we should be able to do more blah blah. But it’s bigger and has its own OS and accessories how inexpensive do you think it should be? It’s a revolutionary device. People will just always complain no matter what.
@@RealdaveromeroExactly. I think that the nice thing about having an iPad is that when you need a laptop, you can attach a keyboard to it and when you need a notebook you can take it off and use the Apple Pencil. Obviously their is no right or wrong opinions on an iPad and if someone wants to have a desktop os on a tablet they should get a Surface Pro. But if you want a better touch screen experience, an iPad is also a good device and more apps are optomised on the iPad than on Android Tablets. And plus with a MacBook, you are stuck with the keyboard you get. But with an iPad, you can choose what keyboard you want to put on your device to make it more personal. And personally, all I do is use Microsoft Edge the on the iPad Pro, play games, study, and annotate. And I cannot onnotate on the HP laptop that I have with a stylus. And I use my the same way I use this iPad that I am typing on minus the annotating. For me, I don’t feel like getting a laptop over an iPad would benefit me that much.
Hello there, I bought the iPad Pro 2024 model 13’’.
And i totally agree with you, i want the file management to work better, like switching between apps and minimize/full screen like a laptop.. and the apps like Final Cut and logic to be more optimized for the pro because after all we got a M4 chip in the pro line-up.
But I’m enjoying drawing on my screen, and making some basic beats for now .. hoping i can fully enjoy the possibility’s and workflow in the nearby future with improved IpadOS.
I have both and use them sometimes together but generally for totally different workflows…to have them just be 2 form-factors using identical OS for me is subtraction not addition
The only reason the iPad doesn't have Mac os is because of money. By creating clear boundaries they force most customers to buy them both. We need to stop acting like apple cares about it's customers. They are a million o billion dollar company. Just like any other successful company, there's only one thing they care about $$$. Just like every other company. Nothing more to it.
Nonsense. Microsoft took your advice with W8 and attempted to become the leading tablet maker by making a desktop OS hybrid. That was a cataclysmic error of judgment, leading to MS becoming irrelevant in the tablet market and losing billions. No sensible company would try and repeat that disaster.
Finally someone said it. It's pretty obvious that when a company brings out two products, it's not to make your life easier it's the capitalize on you.
If apple decided today that they were going to allow for dual booting, everyone would suddenly think it's is the correct thing to do because it's convenient. Choices matter to me and as much of a sheep I am for apple, I can't say I love not being allowed choices.
I really liked your breakdown. I have an M1 iPad Pro, and although I really love it, I never caught what the problem was, since I bought it for versatility, where as a MacBook is not so versatile.
Another great and thoughtful video. I’ve been using my iPad Pro as my mobile device since 2015 and my iMac as my desktop work horse. Cloud file management and apps that are constantly updated to take advantage of new iOS/iPadOS features make all the difference
Honestly all I want for my iPad is to be able to add my own audio files to the Music App and edit track info in the app on my iPad without needing a Mac. I don’t need MacOS on my iPad, but I do want a little more basic capability like this.
There are a couple of things that would make it better, yes file management but also Office 365 capable, and by that I mean I want to use the full version of word and excel and power point not the one that we are forced to use on the iPad
I don’t think it needs macOS, but it sure adds hell needs more macOS features and apps
Totally agree with your perspective. Replacing iPad OS with MacOs would remove everything thing that makes the iPad a standalone tablet. Like you said MacOS is not a touch based interface and I don’t see interacting with it as such as an enjoyable experience. Perhaps what people want is the capability of the iPad to run MacOS apps when needed and better multitasking capability, but not necessarily replace iPad OS with MacOS.
my biggest issue is as a graphic designer it seems i can’t just use one of the other, and as a college student its a money issue
I don’t want MacOS on my iPad Pro. I like having a more focused work environment that iPadOS offers. It’s just far more minimal and less distracting than a Mac. If you take this to the extreme, you can make a ‘dumb iPad’ and lock it down. You can’t create a ‘dumb Mac’ because you have complete control over the root of the device.
Great video ❤ I totally agree and I use both in different Capacity and love it
Yeah i see what you mean but disagree for 2 reasons:
For ipad, ipad air, yeah that reasoning make sense.
But for ipad pros, not at all. First because apple themselves advertise it ALWAYS. With a keyboard and trackpad. So they are the ones blurring the line. And the main complaint is that they keep giving it power (and therefore price) that simply CANNOT be used by the software. So the complaints from user is “if you give me that price and that power, give me ways to take advantage of it. And that’s just fair to ask.
What iPadOS needs is audio input/output control at the system level for it to truly be a computer for me. That missing feature ties my hands behind my back. Otherwise I agree, I don’t want MacOS on iPad. I just want an improved iPadOS faster than Apple seems willing to improve it.
I think you are right, I always wonder why people talk about mac os and keyboards with shortcuts etc.
Go buy a computer when you need all that, why look at a tablet in the first place.
I know the limitations but I like the convenience of a tablet and I am used to the whole IOS system.
It gets the job done, that is the most important thing.
I agree with you Nikias. Apple has always said, from its launch, that the iPad is meant to be a companion device to a MacBook Pro. And there's no way Apple is going to cannibalize their MBP sales. To be clear though, I would not buy the new iPad Pro 13 to be a companion device, it's too expensive to be used that way. My current combination is the M3 Pro MBP 14 and the M1 iPad Air, both base models. Neither is top of the line but for me they are the perfect combination, for my use case and my wallet 🙂.
Tbh, I don’t think it should get macOS, but it’s also a bad idea to have an iOS based operational system for a device with so much power like the iPad.
I’d say the best idea would be creating a system optimized for touch screen based on macOS, or just creating a desktop mode just like Samsung does with their tablets and phones (Dex mode idk the name exactly). iPad multitasking sucks, I hate the limited scale and movement of the apps.
Absolutely spot on review Nikias. I’m fortunate that my M4 iPad Pro does everything that I need and is my ‘only computer’ and I love it. It’s used every day and I perfect for my needs. I can’t understand why people keep complaining that an iPad isn’t a Mac! If you need a Mac then buy one, if you like the iPad then….buy one. Good vid, thank you 🙏.
Bro u dropped this 🧠
Awesome videos sorry I’m sooo late
Only issue i can think of with the ipad is that the air and pro versions with the m chips should be able to run mac apps. And they should allow vm's with jit support so well parallels can run and well problem solved the users can install mac os or any other os if they so choose, and realize how bad the experience would be first hand and well it will be their fault and their problem, well not really it would run it like a Macbook does which is pretty good even with the 8gb models.
I just want a Macbook air with Oled and 120hz.
The interview just went on and on about how they’re different tools. That’s stupid. They don’t have to be different tools. They’re extremely similar hardware, Apple just doesn’t want to have overlap and make the MacBook obsolete.
Hard disagree. It should have it period. If the MacBook Air can have it then it could easily have it.
Then, should the $1400 Galaxy Tab S9 have Windows as a dual-boot? I never see complainers like you say the same about Android. One rule for Apple and one for Andorid. It sounds like you are a hater and are simply posting to flex on Apple.
The iPad can and should be allowed to work as a full laptop replacement. There’s a lot of things iPadOS just can’t do or can’t do well. It’s nonsense having to pack both a tablet and a laptop when traveling.
Nikias in less 10 minutes explain really how iPad Pro and iPadOS must will improve. Yes, we don’t need macOS but we need a pro file management system like macOS. That’s it! And of course more Pro Apps such as Affinity suite, Shapr3D and more.
I love the ipad for ipad apps, I love the mac for mac apps. I love to see the future of the two merge and allow a dual boot so that I can do both on ONE device vs TWO. I would even pay more for this to happen since apple is afraid of losing additional income. (I love apple) BUT, I would pay the ridiculously overpriced fee of extra storage if I can do everything on one device. I KNOW an ipad can do everything a Mac can do and like you said they are different. That is why we need a dual boot option on ONE device and not having to do it on 2 separate devices. Surface Pro is inferior but they are catching up to what the ipad NEEDS to be... Both a mac and ipad.
I love this amazing video so much and keep it up
Mac OS is needed on the iPad when the touch screen comes to the Mac. I would like a bit more flexible Files app. I would like to select a file in the Files app and have it launch its related app. So if I click on a html file, Safari would launch and load the file I clicked on.
Just give us full software versions on iPad OS
We need the Instagram app for the iPad
I would love Mac OS on iPad but another tout apple won do it is
1- sales on Macs won’t sell
2-apple will stop making Mac’s laptops etc…
Another thing it would be nice if Mac OS only will happen if u connect Magic Keyboard on supported iPads the once u remove the key board the back to iPad os but a fully install of Mac OS would love it but I know it will never happen
Totally concur with you
3:44 "The ipad is a tablet when you need it, a laptop when you need it"
Yeah, no. The ipad is a tablet full stop. It's a good tablet, but a keyboard and trackpad does not a laptop make. Ipad os is far too limited to be a full laptop replacement. Trust me, I tried to replace a laptop with an ipad and kept running into limitations where I would have to grab my PC, macbook, or even my android phone, because Ipad os wouldn't let me do what I needed to do. I've downloaded apps and created shortcuts with the shortcut app to try and fill in the gaps, but it's just a stop gap measure. You can't even rename a photo in the photos app. I had to create a shortcut to copy an image to the files app, rename it there, copy it back to the photos app, and then clean up by deleting the now unneded copies. My main use for an ipad is drawing in procreate. This is unacceptable. I swear, if procreate ever releases on android, ill never buy another ipad.... unless of course I could run mac os on it.
The reason they don't let you dual boot into macos on an ipad is because then you won't buy a macbook.
I don’t necessarily want macOS on my iPad, I just want a better iPadOS. When I would rather grab my Mac just to move a few files around to different folders because it’s easier on macOS, then something is wrong.
If an iPad user wants a more pro file manager, then just download filebrowser pro from the app store. Also there is an element of user education as well, the built in files app is far more capable than people think. I agree a touch first device should have a touch first OS, and a desktop device should have a desktop OS… If you mix the two, that’s when you get a hideous Windows 8 user experience! You clearly get it ;)
I don't agree with you. As some people mentioned in the comments, iPadOS lacks many features that macOS would completely fix. Definitely, macOS on an iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard would be an absolute MacBook Air killer. In that case, the MacBook Air should either adjust its specs to justify a higher price or lower its price to under $1,000. An iPad with macOS would be the ultimate Microsoft Surface Pro killer. For $1,400, having a machine capable of running a desktop OS, handling a pencil (and no one beats the Apple Pencil), and having a touchscreen would be an absolute game-changer.
I just hope they bring back the headphone jack to mobile devices and internal dvd drives to macs. 😢
For people who dig deep into this it’s blatantly obvious that iPadOS is actually the more modern and far superior operating system, I go as far as to say iPadOS is much better than macOS and just has a few bugs to be fixed, for example true desktop sites for some apps (this is already the case for most apps) and the ability to allow for heavier background tasks as long as the compute cannot be done safely in the cloud
I Agree
Awesome video
I don’t want full Mac on iPads bit kinda a mix like both iOS and Mac apps
iPadOS does not use the full potential of the hardware. iPad could replace the MacBook with a touch friendly MacOS but Apple doesn’t want it to get in the way of MacBook sales. So with the iPad you’re paying for an unnecessary spec of expensive hardware severely limited by software.
Hot take here: I actually prefer the iPad desk setup over the Mac. It seems to me that iPadOS renders text and images better on external monitors than macOS; they are less pixelated. Also, the floating app windows combined with fluid animation make the whole experience more futuristic. I feel like iPadOS looks better than macOS.
Wrong. Nice apple propaganda.
what do you know 😂
@@mr.dude1338 more than you sheep.
No, you’re wrong
Said it perfectly. He sucks up to Apple so much. It’s disgusting how him and a few others can be so ignorant to so many issues on such an expensive device. No, you’re wrong for telling me how I should and shouldn’t be able to use my $1000+ device, then telling me it is a magical piece of glass or whatever bs when its software is so limiting for no justifiable reason whatsoever.
@xeon3081 mkbhd did it too.
Totally agree with you.
Totally agree!
Maybe Apple makes more profit selling two separate items instead of only one. And a lot of people (me included) fall for it all the time. They boost marketing to the highest level. We all should think more aboout what we really need and less about having the entire ecosystem.
Be nice if they allowed proper mirroring from Mac to iPad like the new iPhone to Mac.
I agree Ipads do not need MacOs, but they do need Finder file management is appaling if you are using an Ipad for more ‘pro’ activities.
Yeah iPad still needs Mac OS, I can’t tell you how much easier it’d make my job to draw up a blueprint on the iPad and then go out into the field with it to show the crew what to do or go over it with the customer without carrying around a bulky laptop. Windows certainly has hybrid laptops and tablets that have both a touchscreen tablet interface as well as full windows capabilities. If Mac OS didn’t make sense on the iPad, you wouldn’t have so many people demanding it, Apple won’t do it though because it would be the end of their MacBooks. People would be buying 1 expensive item (ipad) instead of 2 (iPad and MacBook) in order to get one job done.
Why can't it always be a mac and an iPad when you need it?
So wrong, the iPad hardware has more power than a lot of laptops, it could have at least Mac apps on it
I think it’s kinda weird that the Mac is more for work and the iPad is more for entertainment and yet the Mac has more of an entertainment aspect ratio then the iPad has. The iPad should have the wider screen if it’s more for entertainment.
It would be really weird to control macOS with your fingers. It just wouldn’t work
The ipad can have both, look samsung dex exist since 8/9 years and you can swith from tablet os to computer os in one click. Apple could fo this but wont because Money
@@timtim3582 doesn’t mean they did it well. I do partially agree with u: apples reason is definitely money but also it would have to be a tweaked version of macOS or they should just make iOS a more desktop like OS
i honestly agree. Imagine macOS in an iPad it won't make science and it would look weird.
The ipad can have both, look samsung dex exist since 8/9 years and you can switch from tablet os to computer os in one click. Apple could do this but wont because Money
Apple Propaganda, I want MacOS on an iPad.
If you buy an Apple Magic Keyboard that should come with macOS 👁️👁️
Excuse me but what’s the problem of having MacOS mode with touchscreen disabled when magic key board is attached? Wait, I know what’s the point, Apple can make more money this way. I just don’t get why should I pay more then 300$ for Magic Keyboard that gives me just good keyboard but nothing else when I can buy Chinese keyboard that costs 50-70$? Why don’t they make MacOS mode at least for iPad Pro 13” with 1T-2T for additional price?
I think iPad OS should evolve to behave a lot more like macOS, e.g. introducing a full-fledged filesystem and window management system (e.g. expose and multiple desktops). That doesn't mean that iPad needs to support macOS, but it should become a lot more capable and take inspiration from macOS.
It uses sandboxing as a security measure, so iPadOS will never have a macOS file system. Stage Manager is a solid windows management system.
@@andyH_England I respectfully disagree. I think a better file system can be developed and I hate using stage manager.
This video is literally reinforce learning for Apple's sale strategy. iPad has every capacity to run MacOS, let alone it also has a touch screen, and it doesn't even need much porting work engineering wise. The only reason Apple is not doing this, is because it will jeopardize the sale of Mac, which even 16G memory will cost you additional 200 bucks. I don't see any useful insights from this video other than reading Apple's advertisements.
iPadOS needs to be worth the price tag of the expensive iPad. Right now it is a bigger version of iOS which is unacceptable.
personally i disagree: ithink a dual boot mode would be great!
Alternatively, the mac could totally get a touch screen: when i use windows laptops i dont like the system but i really really enjoy being able to scroll with my fingers! I wish i could do the same on the 15 mba!
Last, when i see the hardware and MK of the m4 ipp, it is such a shame we cannot load a full macos and hook it up to external displays :(
I think Apple will put a Mac-like OS in iPad someday, but only when MacBook experienced a severe decline in sales. Otherwise it'll just steal business from its own house.
or what they could do is have a new line of ipads that run Mac OS and charge an additional 1000 dollar premium to cover the lost sale in a macbook.
You mean... right now? Because them sales ain't rising much...
Yes, I agree, it is the last resort if you are sinking in this competitive PC market. At the moment it works well, and no reason to change for changesake.
@@andyH_England yes there is reason. The surface pro already does both. You sound like someone that never graduated college. I bet I’m correct.
@@AdamAdam-vu3qt The Surface Pro is in decline sales-wise and has less than 2% of the market. I suspect few companies believe that that is a success and are willing to follow it.
I was at university, but due to the loss of my father, I had to take over the family business with my brother. So, I did not graduate, so you are correct.
it kinda dont, but it kinda needs... The OS is too limited and most pro apps lacks functions. The best world would be one that you either need a mac or an ipad, not both.
The idea is to have everything. An Apple Watch, iPhone Pro every year, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro and Vision Pro. All being replaced at least every two years. That’s what makes Apple a Trillion dollars in revenue. Way to go. Writing this on an iPad Pro M4, because I give a fuck.
Both the iPad and the Mac are general purpose computers. They are not the same type of general purpose computer. I refer to the Mac as a conventional general purpose computer. The iPad is most definitely an unconventional computing device. It is different, idiosyncratic, atypical and all but eccentric. It still, however, a computer. A bicycle for the mind as Steve Jobs once described computers.
I still use my analogy of transportation devices. Think of the Mac and the iPad as transportation devices. The Mac is like a Toyota SUV. The iPad is like a BMW Motorcycle. They are both vehicles, just as Mac and iPad are both computers. Ultimately the SUV is far more powerful than the motorcycle in terms of what it can do, but some people only need and prefer the motorcycle. Some people buy both, and use the one they need at the moment.
Now think about what a motorcycle would look like if you tried to make it comparable in features to an SUV.
For the price they would sell a MacOs iPad I'd straight buy a probably better specs MacBook
It’s funny all the complainers think they’re some majority of buyers. Yall are just the loudest and most annoying. Most actual “Pro Users” using the iPad Pro. Love it. Myself included. I do digital marketing and 3D animation for real-estate and it’s my only choice for creative work. Anything else. I love my Mac. It’s using the right tool for the right job. But complainers ‘want it all’- boo hoo. Buy a MacBook shut up.
I don't care about the OS. It's fine on its own. I only care about the Apps that I use on Mac Desktop that do not get the same functions on the iPad (ehh Adobe please).
Yes I get it he doesn’t want to say anything bad about Apple because it will make him lose his seat to be invited in any Apple WWDC conferences. But also he would lose his viewers too with his constant biased reviews. So ultimately it’s a trade off, which do you want to lose? Your trust with your viewers or with Apple? It’s a hard choice….
if they don't need macOS, then why put M4 on ipads and sell it as laptop replacement! truth is ipads should run apps for desktop otherwise no point to sell keyboards and pencils, also we know that promote apple products but ok
All they need to do is to allow virtualization on iPadOS and Apple silicon chips. We will do the rest.
But if ipad does have macos, imagine what you can do then
He explains it like we've never seen a full blown pc os on a tablet before, ridiculous. People are asking because they've seen surface pro that have been around for a decade, they've seen it works! And ipad hardware and accessories are way more powerful than those windows tablets. Thats why people are asking. Last year you were saying it only needs multitasking, they added it, this year you say it's just the file management, next year something else will come up, at the end they will just put the macos on it, when they realize they just can't fool anyone any longer 😂.
They just want you to swipe your cards to buy all of their products because you need them all.
Great video Nikias. I think so many people in the tech world try to paint this picture that the iPad needs to do more because it needs to fit their needs. But the truth is, the iPad was not made for the workflow of many tech reviewers. It was made for students, musicians, artists, doctors, pilots - the sort of professionals that need extreme mobility and the sandboxed nature of iPadOS. MacOS on the iPad would simply slow down their workflow and make for a more complicated experience. I myself am a musician, with both an iPad and MacBook. I reach for the iPad 9/10 for live music mixing, creating/reading charts, and even editing videos because everything is just so easy. Like you said, macOS is not made for touch and would slow down the artistic process for me and so many others. I agree 100%.
headless mac is I want. I dislike macbook , I do not need display .
it should or it must , as it does not support ide like intellij
Why can't we get both on iPad Pro??? just like MacBook can run also Windows using Parallel.
We can boot into a MacOS by a iPadOS `app` using the Virtualazation Framework, however, Apple blocked this way as just `A Business decision` only,
No need to discuss and argue on it anymore, as you are bababababa... to states what iPad Pro being to like ( too many excuses) ,
however, that's not my iPad Pro, I would like my iPad Pro can also able to act as a Computer when it is in a `Magic Keyboard mode`.
I think the iPad is perfectly fine on iPad OS. If you want a Mac OS experience, get a MacBook. iPad OS is great for touch screen use and note taking with the Apple Pencil. And there are things that the Mac can't do that the iPad can do like drawing and taking handwritten notes. And for casual web browsing, it is perfectly fine to use, and I never have more than two windows on the iPad screen ore my laptop screen. Apps on the iPad are perfectly optimized for the Apple Pencil and a big touch screen unlike an Android ablet that normally has big stretched out phone apps. And if you have a Mac or Windows laptop, why do you need a desktop os on a tablet?
I agree that MacOS doesn’t belong in the iPad but iPadOS should be much more than a glorified iOS, at least for the iPad Pro
No one cares about MacOS but people do want iPadOS to be better
Why did bro meet with the people like he was in an action movie 💀
What about the galaxy tab? You press the Dex button and it switches to a laptop… 🤷♂️. I love the Apple products but as for the iPad, it just collects dusts most of the time. Give us MacOS and iPadOS in one already you greedy corporate thieves
iPad should not be used with keyboard and build expectations and subsequent frustrations
That my biggest frustration. It sucks when coursing the keyboard and then you have to touch the screen because the app isn't reading the pointer.
Microsoft is killing apple w the surface… gimme an ipad w macOS that has tablet mode…
I completely agree. Two different products for two different uses.
Why would a single guy have BOTH, and use a $2000 iPad as “an accessory, add-on device”? This is some of the biggest BS I have ever seen
I don't really care about macOS on iPad. But i want a full desktop app on iPad. The processor can do it. Stop bullshitting Apple propaganda bro