Different day an different time. Older folks were given respect whether they were right or wrong.....even if they flipped you off. You honked your horn and moved on with your day.
@@36minutesago7 be careful boy it's a dangerous world and big bad people will eat you alive...don't talk to strangers little kid and always be careful not to take candy from grown ups you don't know.
He lost his appeal and then his lawyers tried to get him sentenced from a different judge. After that failed the state Supreme Court refused to hear his case. That was in 2023.
Why does the news think we’d rather listen to the reporter blather on and on, rather than listen to the judge hand down the sentence? Wouldn’t it have been a more interesting segment if we actually got to hear the judge speak???
tampajohn Because TV is up its own asshole. It's been that way for years, but it's only stood out in really sharp contrast since the rise of the internet. They're always banging on about "exclusive" reports, special investigative stories "only on" their channel. Their station ID's are always packed with self-aggrandizement and their news promos, with no irony, pitch the anchors as somehow hard-hitting, despite the fact we all know that they report on nothing and write no copy. TV news is a redundant joke.
After my daughter was born, the conflicts with bad drivers ended. One day someone swerved in front of me almost hitting my car, I flashed the high beams and he slammed the breaks hard, not a little, but full stop. I reached for the door to unlock it and get out and all of a sudden I was overcome with a fear that was greater than my anger and need to get revenge. What if? What if I die here? Who will take care of my little girl? who will protect her? Up until that point I never cared, I grew up in a violent neighborhood, saw friends shot and stabbed, fought almost every day with kids from rival neighborhoods, violence was a part of my life. But loving someone more than I loved myself changed everything.
Good move, Gobo. I myself used to get into a lot of road rage confrontations when I was a young driver during the 1980s, but slowly started getting away from that as I got older and matured. Now that I'm retired, I don't even bother getting into any verbal altercations anymore with poor attitude/aggressive drivers. Just last month, a woman in an SUV driving behind me was tailgating my car, and aggressively moving her steering wheel back and forth while doing so. There was constant traffic to the right of me on the two lane road I was on, so I couldn't even get over to get out of her way. Fearing that she was going to rear end me, I kept lightly tapping on my brakes to try and get her to get over to the next lane herself. Finally, she was able to do what I wanted to accomplish, and then proceeded to pull up right alongside me and stuck her head out of the window and started screaming every profanity in the book at me - complete with several middle finger salute gestures. I just simply laughed and waved my hand at her, and she then just drove off while still totally outraged 😁😁😃😃
I’m 19 and just had my first son 3 months ago, I feel the exact same way, not a violent past for me but just thinking about the whole world differently and how quick one stupid thing can leave someone dead. Rather it not be anyone I love so why risk it
Yeah, when it comes to stuff like that, I know emotions can run hot at those times but what could and will happen just isn't worth it. It's not worth getting upset with them. It's not worth wasting your time on them. They are nothing to you. This goes for everyone on every side, too. So what if someone cuts you off? So what if you were "right"? Does your reaction de-escalate the situation or are you just adding to it out of fear or anger or the "heat of the moment"? Think safety. You have better things to do with your time and energy than get upset about someone cutting you off or trying to seek some kind of petty revenge for something you feel wronged you. Let it go. It's not worth it. You have better things to do with your time and energy that day. Me? I laugh at people that cut me off, most of the time. I figure they must be in a hurry and let them go, even if they've placed me momentarily in danger. They're the idiot, not me. Let them go.
What did his dad do for a living? I just watched his police interrogation on another channel. He was quite the little entitled punk. Sounds like his family was pretty well off.
@@1962pjh Yeah, it sounded like they coddled their son tbh. I'm sure he had mental issues regardless, but the parents raised a real piece of work. Well, they can't coddle him in prison.
I do not understand, a while ago I just watched a video where a woman in a fit of road rage killed a servicemen a navy officer, by riding him off his motorbike after chasing him for miles, only gets six years but a man, in this case, a teen gets decades. I am not saying that he should not have got this sentence but I question why a woman gets a much lesser sentence for the same crime.
Glen Eric Huysamer The dumbass wasn’t trying to actually hit him but she was an aggressor. Also she didn’t brag about doing it. Dumbass sentence was still too easy.
Jason Janoy Blaha Lover Boy I know even when a man and a woman commit murder together I've seen her get half his sentence.When are the courts going to realise women can be just as evil as men.
I’m always scared on the highway. They push you down the road and when you don’t go as fast as they want you to they almost clip the front of your vehicle. These people are a danger to society.
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
@@bradleyselk9642 LOL I'm 44, so I hope my best years are not behind me. LOL And plenty of men start family's at forty. Your thinking of women. My grandad had his last kids at 47 and 50. (Grandma was 37 & 40) It will be rougher in some ways, but you never know. If he uses his time to study in the right fields and gets a degree...or two..or three even, he could come out to a really good job actually. Companies get big tax breaks for giving felons employment and it would be easy to see that after 22.5 years, he is not the same person. Those who do 20 plus years and don't come out with a college degree, deserve to be homeless. No excuse. You have all the time in the world to get a resume and a great interview together. I also think in the next ten years, we are going to see mass clemency in our prison systems and his was a crime of passion. Something that happened in the moment. He could be out sooner. But definitely should come out with a degree. jmo
@@ExpectantHarvest What? They didn’t “meet up” in a church parking lot as if it was planned. It was road rage and a heat of the moment decision by Christian (who was 19) to assault an elderly man. Stop hating on the other guy.
@@cloudcovercreations Oh I am not hating I was just commenting thinking of how I stopped driving years ago and thinking of an old man taking it to a parking lot with a child
He's probably already had some previews. He's "pretty". When he's up in the big house, with the big boys, and his well to do family has to keep money on his books so he's not rented out like a $20 dollar hooker, that's when it's going to get mean for him.
@@mythoughts6922 Or the first time he mouths off to an actual bad man. Maybe he will learn something in his infirmary stay.. IF he makes it there and not the freezer drawers.
It’s repugnant that not only is rape considered part of the sentence but that sickos like you wish and yearn for it. You’ve got plenty of criminality in your heart. The convicted killer will spend at least 22 years in a horrible prison but that’s not enough for sadists like you. You’re messed up in the head.
So sad no winners in this situation I drive trucks for a living and deal with reckless drivers everyday even if someone does something to make u mad while driving jus ignore it and keep going it’s not worth your freedom 💯
We have to share the road and people make mistaked while driving, we all have. Dont be the one who gets all bent out of shape because of someone's honest or not mistake. Keep a cool head and do your best to avoid a interaction. That means not stopping and getting out , even if your followed. Keep moving , and move on. The last thing you want is to interact with a cop for any reason. Even for some interaction with a hot head, don't interact with with trouble, avoid it.
we were kind of racing down Hayden in Scottsdale and this guy cuts me off right before the light so I honked and flipped him off and he get's out and starts moving towards my car - the girl behind me was shaking her head - I rolled down my window and apologized and that's the last time I go through that. The adrenaline can get going when your out on the highways so just chill.
One time I saw a truck trying to enter the highway after leaving a gas station and I slowed my lane by letting him get in. The truck driver was so happy signaling with his emergency lights. I thought to myself I really didn’t do him any big favors but he was so gracious. That gave me an idea how rude most drivers can be to truck drivers
They have to unfortunately, too many people have sued over this stuff, so they unfortunately have to use words like "accused" or "allegedly" pretty much no matter what.
That seems to be a terrible way to look at an already broken "justice" system. I am not commenting on his crime or the sentencing as I don't know enough about it (though with the little that i have gather from this video, his crime is horrible and his attitude might be even remorseless -- deserving the punishment awarded to him). However, I feel uncomfortable knowing that so many of us view the abuse of prisoners in this Industrialized Prison Complex as part of the retribution, redemption, rehabilitation, and justice process. His punishment (as decided by the justice system) is the time he'll serve in prison, and not his rape and abuse there. Celebrating the abuse, anticipating it, encouraging it, being unmoved by it, accepting it as part of the justice system -- all these things point to a deeper problem. I hope we all can move past this together. Edit 1: fixed some spellings.
I was once in County Jail for a DUI. I was in the same cell with a guy who was 6’ 4” barefoot and 275+. And not fat, the dude’s wrists were bigger than my fists and I’m the same height, but this guy was huge. Well, he was in because he beat up his old lady, and he was shipped off to prison from County but had to come back for a sentence modification. I’ll never forget hearing this giant dude tell me that prison *scared him* because of how built and vicious the inmates were. He was afraid for his life in there, when in County he could handle any of us.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 I'm that size, but it's not size that makes a man dangerous, it's his heart and his mind. Most people don't have it inside them to really want to hurt a person. You can usually tell from the eyes if they do or not. Eg: 85 lb wolf vs 100 lb dog. The dog would be torn to pieces, due to the mindset of the wolf. He is biting to kill, to survive, the dog is not. Much different look in a wolf's eyes than in a dog's eyes.
@J R Yes, I understood what you said, and it was very clever & original. What you agreed to, however, was that you were a prison punk, and now continue to be one. At least you own it. I guess. Punk.
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
I have three concealed handgun permits and carry two handguns, but before those options, use these: 1) Avoid a confrontation if AT ALL Possible. 2) Drive away! V8 beats .38 any day. Stop behind cars so you can see the road behind their rear tires. 3) Pepper spray is better for most situations.
@@johnwilburn couldn't agree with you more.I was at a stoplight last summer and beeped my horn because nobody was moving when the light turned green and it wasn't one of those long beeps it was just a really quick one and two cars in front of mea guy in a big truck got pissed off and pulled over and waited for me to pass and try to block me in the middle of the road and got out of his truck and running towards my car so I hurried up and got out of there.people are insane and I would never pull over and let someone approach my vehicle in that situation.
I only respect people who respect me no matter what age you are. I work in a grocery store in a town that is considered a "retirement community" so about 80% of the customers I deal with on a daily basis are old and a lot of them are nice and treat me with respect and I return the favor and some of them be really rude and expect automatic respect because they are old. I'll respect anyone who doesn't give me a reason not too.
You know the road raging old man pulled over and initiated the fight yeah? Do you think the kid is magneto and used his mindpowers to stop that truck from his motorbike? I have no sympathy for people who start fights. This should have been manslaughter.
@@hansolo631 that is true. if the old man had it his way, it'd be him standing in court with the kid dead or in the hospital. classic case of a man needing to know his limitations.
Okay.... I’ll bite. Do you believe everyone who is “down” is not a threat? Is an armed person, or a person reasonably believed to be armed, not a threat when they are “down?”
FE Gaming Also: 1) Manson didn’t kill anyone 2) Manson never had the classic emotionless serial killer facial expressions, he had EVERY facial expression under the sun-
how the woman that killed the military man on his motor cycle got SIX years only ???!!!!! RETRIAL, GET A NEW NORMAL JUDGE FOR HER MURDER SENTENCE !! PROTEST!!
I'd like to know what killed the guy. A single punch? A cinder block? The loser in an altercation isn't necessarily a murder victim, just as the winner isn't a murderer.
Paul Francis... He will not survive till 42. Prison inmates, do not take kindly to people who mistreat the elderly. He will either commit suicide, or be killed.
He'll be dead before 24 in prison, rest assured!! Often happens, just never reported. Old news, since days of Al Capon. Either he gets in with wrong ethnic crowd, or is "contracted out" by loved ones of victims. Happens more than you think. Jeffery Dahmer, the famous eater of his victims, for example, was bashed in head and drowned in a toilet by a contractor, allegedly. Noice, eh? :D
That shmendrick beats up an old man and CANNOT help himself but to crow about it, beating his hairless chest, bragging to all the ppl in his Fortnight group.
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
Bob M Until men demonstrate and demand change this will continue to happen. With the Me Too movement, men don't have a chance. And the news media makes it even worse. Soon our voice will count for nothing, and a woman can make up any story she wants to progress there narrative. OH this has already happened!
I've met some people like this. Bad news. In traffic situations, give yourself a 30 second rule. Wait 30 seconds- do not react. By then, you will hopefully calm down. It really works.
When I was younger and much more foolish and reckless I would get into altercations with other drivers that only but for the grace of God didn't end up with one or both us injured or killed or even worse some innocent bystander caught up in my stupidity. I look back on those times and thank the Lord that He preserved everyone's safety. It is never, ever worth it to get involved in any kind of road rage especially given the very permanent nature of the outcome over what is really nothing more than someone acting out of wounded pride. This is such a tragic case for everyone all over nothing.
If he gets released on parole at 42, that will be a crime all on its own. Never let him out. Screw a second chance. People like that don't deserve them.
I agree but one look at a comment section will tell you that society is inundated with pussies that allow this. I believe that people on parole boards NEED to be held accountable if they release someone only for them to recommit
Did you watch the video? With a life sentence, he's eligible for parole in 15 years. With the 22.5 to 100 year sentence he got, he's eligible for parole in 22.5 years. 22.5 is greater than 15, thus this is a worse sentence. And with either sentence, he can spend the rest of this life in prison. Unless you think he can live long enough to outlive a 100 year sentence.
The Darla Jackson case, she chased a navy petty officer over 4 lanes of highway, rammed him in her car of his motorbike, and dragged him 300m down the road killing him. She got 6 years. The mind boggels how these judges work stuff out.
@@billsloan5529 It doesnt matter if it makes you look guilty or not. NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer present and preferably, let your lawyer talk. In court, its not what you look like that matter, its what you said, and what they can prove.
@@billsloan5529 Not true. When cops arrest you, they are trying to charge you with a crime. They don't care if you're innocent. They will attempt to twist your words and use them against you.
@@Mliw90 discrediting all the good cops who do fight for justice I know cause my Brother is a Cop & he would turn in his Badge before he would arrest a innocent person he knows is innocent.
This is an example of why we need to raise our kids to be respectful and disciplined, to understand that we can be upset with someone else and learn an appropriate way to deal with it. The human race is learning that if you anger someone the way to deal with it is to take their life. Sad!!
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 2 Timothy 3: 1-5 Pretty much sums up where we are as a society.
One of the problems with the young generations today is that they are so protected and coddled. No old school discipline and teachings to show these kids that they are accountable. They get away with so much. And than, this happens. He apparently felt tough by beating an old man to death. Well, now he gets to eat, sleep, breath and SHOWER with other men that are tough with NOTHING TO LOSE. Just don't drop the soap and definitely dont PICK IT UP.
This is why I just never honk at anyone or flip them off, not worth it. You never know when someone could have a gun or just pull over and start fighting. People have mental issues all the time where they can't accept being wrong and act irrationally.
I hate backing down to aggressive aholes but at least I will always avoid the worst two outcomes 1 Dead or 2 Life in jail for murder. Avoidance is often the best policy.
I have a friend who suffers from road rage. If you are someone like that, please get help. Not only did that five-year-old lose his life, but that young man destroyed his own life. It isn't worth it.
So lets get this straight, old man in truck chases 18 year old on motorbike for miles down the road. Follows him into church parking lot and grabs kid's neck, kid knocks him out and old man dies weeks later. Hmmm...
Javier, while the teen should not have done what he did, that doesn't mean people shouldn't learn how to avoid becoming victims, because that's essentially putting your trust in criminals not to commit crimes, which is nonsensical.
What a fool killing someone & ruining own life plus both families. They all need to be 1st rushing to the next red light. Didn't think things through...
Old dude ran him off the road with his pickup apparently. Now that I know that I'm feeling kinda iffy about a 20 year sentence, a teen doesn't deserve that(he was like 15 when it happened).
My Dad just hit 71 and things like this are why I told him to stop honking and making gestures to bad drivers.
Or maybe the old man can stay strapped and ready to shoot. Lets not automatically assume Dad would be punked in a situation.
Different day an different time. Older folks were given respect whether they were right or wrong.....even if they flipped you off. You honked your horn and moved on with your day.
Old people do not realise that society has changed, that’s why they get hurt.
@@36minutesago7 be careful boy it's a dangerous world and big bad people will eat you alive...don't talk to strangers little kid and always be careful not to take candy from grown ups you don't know.
@Lost Vikings I’m getting called little boy by a guy who has cartoon Vikings as his profile pic🤦♂️
He lost his appeal and then his lawyers tried to get him sentenced from a different judge. After that failed the state Supreme Court refused to hear his case. That was in 2023.
@@SlXkxmx he can box all he wants with bubba in his cell now
Thanks for the updates
He shouldn’t be eligible for parole PERIOD!
Why does the news think we’d rather listen to the reporter blather on and on, rather than listen to the judge hand down the sentence? Wouldn’t it have been a more interesting segment if we actually got to hear the judge speak???
because the Judge doesn't reduce his sentencing dictum to a sound bite
tampajohn Because TV is up its own asshole. It's been that way for years, but it's only stood out in really sharp contrast since the rise of the internet. They're always banging on about "exclusive" reports, special investigative stories "only on" their channel. Their station ID's are always packed with self-aggrandizement and their news promos, with no irony, pitch the anchors as somehow hard-hitting, despite the fact we all know that they report on nothing and write no copy. TV news is a redundant joke.
But, you don't understand. He was LIVE, from the CONTROL CENTER!!! Local news is such a laughable joke.
tampajohn
Some courts do not allow recording in the courtroom. Duh.
Acme Fixer there was sound from the courtroom. We heard people talking. They just talked over the judge giving the sentence. DUH! Moron.
Everyone is a badass until the judge gives them their sentence
I know right!! He'll find out what a real badass is up State.
everyone is a badass until they’re dead...
most convicts like jail you fuckin idiot...
CBU2221990 I’m still a badass even after a judge sentences me
he never said he was a badass i CANNOT understand human beings. THE OLD GUY, started the fight, am i the ONLY ONE, who sees this?
@@alvideos2145 Yes, you are. Idiot
His Mom and Dad created this whole thing. Parents, raise your kids. Don't be friends, be parents.
no it was the victim's son whose dad was his friend, not the killers.
Yet the victim's kids aren't on trial for murder though@@badrrharri
The kid looks like he doesn't even care
He said he doesn't care that he broke his elbow
Justin R why should he care? He’s getting railroaded by the system.
Justin R He's an American male, most dangerous animal on earth
@@ajcristo4679 dam rights he is..I agree.. like wtf is 22 1/2 to 100 years ?
He did it to himself.
After my daughter was born, the conflicts with bad drivers ended. One day someone swerved in front of me almost hitting my car, I flashed the high beams and he slammed the breaks hard, not a little, but full stop. I reached for the door to unlock it and get out and all of a sudden I was overcome with a fear that was greater than my anger and need to get revenge. What if? What if I die here? Who will take care of my little girl? who will protect her? Up until that point I never cared, I grew up in a violent neighborhood, saw friends shot and stabbed, fought almost every day with kids from rival neighborhoods, violence was a part of my life. But loving someone more than I loved myself changed everything.
im not afraid of death but i dont use it as an excuse to act violent either.
Good move, Gobo. I myself used to get into a lot of road rage confrontations when I was a young driver during the 1980s, but slowly started getting away from that as I got older and matured. Now that I'm retired, I don't even bother getting into any verbal altercations anymore with poor attitude/aggressive drivers. Just last month, a woman in an SUV driving behind me was tailgating my car, and aggressively moving her steering wheel back and forth while doing so. There was constant traffic to the right of me on the two lane road I was on, so I couldn't even get over to get out of her way. Fearing that she was going to rear end me, I kept lightly tapping on my brakes to try and get her to get over to the next lane herself. Finally, she was able to do what I wanted to accomplish, and then proceeded to pull up right alongside me and stuck her head out of the window and started screaming every profanity in the book at me - complete with several middle finger salute gestures. I just simply laughed and waved my hand at her, and she then just drove off while still totally outraged 😁😁😃😃
I have 2 boys. Much easier than girls
I’m 19 and just had my first son 3 months ago, I feel the exact same way, not a violent past for me but just thinking about the whole world differently and how quick one stupid thing can leave someone dead. Rather it not be anyone I love so why risk it
Yeah, when it comes to stuff like that, I know emotions can run hot at those times but what could and will happen just isn't worth it. It's not worth getting upset with them. It's not worth wasting your time on them. They are nothing to you.
This goes for everyone on every side, too. So what if someone cuts you off? So what if you were "right"? Does your reaction de-escalate the situation or are you just adding to it out of fear or anger or the "heat of the moment"? Think safety. You have better things to do with your time and energy than get upset about someone cutting you off or trying to seek some kind of petty revenge for something you feel wronged you. Let it go. It's not worth it. You have better things to do with your time and energy that day. Me? I laugh at people that cut me off, most of the time. I figure they must be in a hurry and let them go, even if they've placed me momentarily in danger. They're the idiot, not me. Let them go.
THAT PRE-PUBESCENT 'MUSTACHE' WON'T HELP HIM MUCH IN PRISON EITHER.
It will attract his new Daddy, that's for sure!🤣🤣🤣🤣
That stiff sentence isn't the only stiff thing he'll see in prison and that Harry Reams look won't help.@@bartvance8805
@DonaldDonaldson-k2l you sound like someone who announces when they drop the soap!
Balltickler...
Lol 😂
He'll have lots of opportunities to fight where he's going. He's exactly where he belongs.
Mike : Could not agree more !!
@Kalevi Urpilainen life in prison. That is not a life i would like to live. Rather be dead.
He can even fight people his own age this time, a nice improvement!
SEND HIM TO THE RUSSIAN GULAGS
and the BOYS will be WAITING for him to get there.....yes they will indeed!!
My heart goes out to the son . He is truly shattered .
@Taps Ars Lolz, hilarious.
@Kalevi Urpilainen then join him... he literally took everything away from that poor man
Kalevi Urpilainen not much...only watched this. But you said you had empathy with the guy going into prison...smt not right here
@@balto2455 I believe Kalevi is talking about the old man's son who was talking at the podium.
@Paul Spittle You a vegan?
I actually went to school with his younger brother. That family was always crazy
What did his dad do for a living? I just watched his police interrogation on another channel. He was quite the little entitled punk. Sounds like his family was pretty well off.
@@1962pjh Yeah, it sounded like they coddled their son tbh. I'm sure he had mental issues regardless, but the parents raised a real piece of work. Well, they can't coddle him in prison.
His dad is a very successful beef jerky salesman
@@neveroffended45 wasn’t successful raising his boy.
@@neveroffended45 😂
I do not understand, a while ago I just watched a video where a woman in a fit of road rage killed a servicemen a navy officer, by riding him off his motorbike after chasing him for miles, only gets six years but a man, in this case, a teen gets decades. I am not saying that he should not have got this sentence but I question why a woman gets a much lesser sentence for the same crime.
Glen Eric Huysamer The dumbass wasn’t trying to actually hit him but she was an aggressor. Also she didn’t brag about doing it. Dumbass sentence was still too easy.
looks like you clicked on this video after that one. just like i did right now. yeah she should have gotten 10 years at least.
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Glen Eric Huysamer Because they're women. When will people learn women get extra privileges than men?
Jason Janoy Blaha Lover Boy I know even when a man and a woman commit murder together I've seen her get half his sentence.When are the courts going to realise women can be just as evil as men.
This is more than road rage. He needs to stay in jail for life. My condolences to the victims family.
You must've never had road rage before
@@codyreddish8067 road rage is no excuse to assault anyone. You can't control yourself than you have no business behind the wheel.
Road rage is in everyone
Maybe that old fart shoulda just kept driving
Driving is not a right it's a privilege.
I’m always scared on the highway. They push you down the road and when you don’t go as fast as they want you to they almost clip the front of your vehicle. These people are a danger to society.
Get out of the way.
@@Mugwump7 how about don't drive like a faggot
Or better yet, stay home
The closer you come the slower I go
If you're going slower than the flow of traffic on the highway, you are impeding traffic. If you can't handle the highway, don't drive on it.
Personally I'm rooting for the 100 year end of the sentence. To do that to a senior citizen is inexcusable and unforgivable, period.
To do that to ANYONE is inexcusable. Young or old, doesn't fucking matter.
The old man wanted to fight... He got beat up...
@@X-Cactus yes it does
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
In fairness to the young man, the old guy getting out of his car to beat him up may have looked in his 50s. Does anyone know exactly what happened?
Wow. I can't imagine being incarcerated for a week, let alone 22.5 years.
@D B exactly. humans adapt no matter what
He's eligible for parole after 22.5 years. He's looking at life in prison.
Even if he gets out at 42 bis life is over. Best years are behind you,no prospects for a decent job,no family.
At best he'll end up on the streets.
@@bradleyselk9642 LOL I'm 44, so I hope my best years are not behind me. LOL And plenty of men start family's at forty. Your thinking of women. My grandad had his last kids at 47 and 50. (Grandma was 37 & 40)
It will be rougher in some ways, but you never know. If he uses his time to study in the right fields and gets a degree...or two..or three even, he could come out to a really good job actually. Companies get big tax breaks for giving felons employment and it would be easy to see that after 22.5 years, he is not the same person. Those who do 20 plus years and don't come out with a college degree, deserve to be homeless. No excuse. You have all the time in the world to get a resume and a great interview together. I also think in the next ten years, we are going to see mass clemency in our prison systems and his was a crime of passion. Something that happened in the moment. He could be out sooner. But definitely should come out with a degree. jmo
Even a week sucks.
Beating someone to death is beyond "road rage". There is something more evil in that man.
Do you wonder about the other man who met a child in a church parking lot?
If you watch his sons victim impact statement that “other man” donated a kidney to save his son’s life. Say his name ANDY MCFARLAND 🕊️
@@ExpectantHarvest What? They didn’t “meet up” in a church parking lot as if it was planned. It was road rage and a heat of the moment decision by Christian (who was 19) to assault an elderly man. Stop hating on the other guy.
@@cloudcovercreations Oh I am not hating I was just commenting thinking of how I stopped driving years ago and thinking of an old man taking it to a parking lot with a child
It makes me so very sad that a man lost his father and best friend over something so trivial. What a terrible shame.
You can tell by his face he has no idea what he’s looking at.
Maybe he'll figure it out when it's hard and Harry in front of him. Or behind him.
He's probably already had some previews. He's "pretty".
When he's up in the big house, with the big boys, and his well to do family has to keep money on his books so he's not rented out like a $20 dollar hooker, that's when it's going to get mean for him.
@@mythoughts6922 Or the first time he mouths off to an actual bad man.
Maybe he will learn something in his infirmary stay.. IF he makes it there and not the freezer drawers.
prison update: word is he's now comfortable routinely dropping his soap.
Ouch! He's already really sore!
Pretty sure that kid is being passed around the prison like a tray of cookies.
😂😂🤣🤭
Swamp Donkey No stuff like that really does happen in the joint
I farted 😂 laughing at this 😂
@Swamp Donkey I'd be getting phfruqk'd by dudes for protection 🤔😉🍆👌
If he's lucky they'll use some petroleum jelly and not just spit...
This is what the “I don’t care that you broke your elbow” kid turned out to become. 😔
Lol
Why don't this comment have more likes 😂😂😂
I sweaaaar I was thinking the same thing!!
LOL
I was looking for this comment
The victim was a good dad. So sad hearing his son saying he lost his hunting partner fishing partner. Terrible
Keep that thug in prison he doesn’t belong back in society!!!!
Country Boy_10 - finally, someone uses “thug” appropriately
He’s not a thug
Oh yes he is!!!
I’m surprised he could beat anyone up
He'll get the love in prison that he never got at home.
Yes he will. Haha
Love runs deep in the pen
Lolol
😂😂😂
Not everybody is gay in jail yall need to chill. That rarely happens
He should have gotten life w/o parole! Just sickening!
He’s gonna get a “stiff sentence” alright.
Yep, right up the rear, which is MUCH less than this POS deserves.
Hahahahah He's gonna make someone a lovely wife
It’s repugnant that not only is rape considered part of the sentence but that sickos like you wish and yearn for it. You’ve got plenty of criminality in your heart. The convicted killer will spend at least 22 years in a horrible prison but that’s not enough for sadists like you. You’re messed up in the head.
Lost Vikings sounds like you dream of that for yourself. It’s ok to be gay dude it’s almost 2020.
@Stacy Tucker Nope, that is your area of expertise I'm sure.
So sad no winners in this situation I drive trucks for a living and deal with reckless drivers everyday even if someone does something to make u mad while driving jus ignore it and keep going it’s not worth your freedom 💯
Kwon 22 or your life
We have to share the road and people make mistaked while driving, we all have. Dont be the one who gets all bent out of shape because of someone's honest or not mistake. Keep a cool head and do your best to avoid a interaction. That means not stopping and getting out , even if your followed. Keep moving , and move on. The last thing you want is to interact with a cop for any reason. Even for some interaction with a hot head, don't interact with with trouble, avoid it.
we were kind of racing down Hayden in Scottsdale and this guy cuts me off right before the light so I honked and flipped him off and he get's out and starts moving towards my car - the girl behind me was shaking her head - I rolled down my window and apologized and that's the last time I go through that. The adrenaline can get going when your out on the highways so just chill.
Exactly! Just keep going, get away from the crazy driver and stay calm!!
One time I saw a truck trying to enter the highway after leaving a gas station and I slowed my lane by letting him get in. The truck driver was so happy signaling with his emergency lights. I thought to myself I really didn’t do him any big favors but he was so gracious. That gave me an idea how rude most drivers can be to truck drivers
Murdering an old man...pathetic.
He isn't "accused" anymore. He's convicted. Journalism, a lost art.
This is when people are hired for reasons other than qualifications.
i noticed that, too.
They have to unfortunately, too many people have sued over this stuff, so they unfortunately have to use words like "accused" or "allegedly" pretty much no matter what.
@@NeonTailzzz not when he's already convicted dumbass
Actually, not completely guilty until all appeals are exhausted
"don't pull over, don't fight, just get home safely"
Great job Maria - you’ve typed out a quote from the video!!!
@@Gravy_Master WHich is why she put it in quotation.
@@johnnyvt9 Great job, Taters!
@@Gravy_Master can I get a smiley face sticker for participating ?
Daaaa, nobody wants to play wit me. Ahhhhhh!
On the outside he beat men up.
On the inside he’ll beat them off.
This kid won't be so cocky when he becomes someone's girlfriend for the next 100 years
That seems to be a terrible way to look at an already broken "justice" system. I am not commenting on his crime or the sentencing as I don't know enough about it (though with the little that i have gather from this video, his crime is horrible and his attitude might be even remorseless -- deserving the punishment awarded to him). However, I feel uncomfortable knowing that so many of us view the abuse of prisoners in this Industrialized Prison Complex as part of the retribution, redemption, rehabilitation, and justice process. His punishment (as decided by the justice system) is the time he'll serve in prison, and not his rape and abuse there. Celebrating the abuse, anticipating it, encouraging it, being unmoved by it, accepting it as part of the justice system -- all these things point to a deeper problem. I hope we all can move past this together.
Edit 1: fixed some spellings.
Yep the silver lining in all of this is that someone will finally make an honest woman of that kid.
@@nazur72 he will be born again as a woman
@@nazur72 - Hey..if he's lucky, they'll give him a reach-around.
He's got a pretty mouth
Well he's going to a place where he will be able to fight all day. Let's see how well he does with guys his own age.
I was once in County Jail for a DUI. I was in the same cell with a guy who was 6’ 4” barefoot and 275+. And not fat, the dude’s wrists were bigger than my fists and I’m the same height, but this guy was huge. Well, he was in because he beat up his old lady, and he was shipped off to prison from County but had to come back for a sentence modification. I’ll never forget hearing this giant dude tell me that prison *scared him* because of how built and vicious the inmates were. He was afraid for his life in there, when in County he could handle any of us.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 I'm that size, but it's not size that makes a man dangerous, it's his heart and his mind. Most people don't have it inside them to really want to hurt a person. You can usually tell from the eyes if they do or not. Eg: 85 lb wolf vs 100 lb dog. The dog would be torn to pieces, due to the mindset of the wolf. He is biting to kill, to survive, the dog is not. Much different look in a wolf's eyes than in a dog's eyes.
@J R You know all about being a cushion.
@J R So you're not denying you got (and probably still get) used as a cushion? Shocking.
@J R Yes, I understood what you said, and it was very clever & original. What you agreed to, however, was that you were a prison punk, and now continue to be one. At least you own it. I guess. Punk.
I just lost my pet and the feeling is so sad. Just imagine losing Dad. Peace be with you sir.
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
@@777SFINN777 the old boomer went SPLAT 🤣
@@mt_gox yeah I mean I guess.
@@777SFINN777 MtGox is just releasing some pent-up self-hatred. All good.
What happened to your pet?
This is why everyone needs a dashcam and a hand gun permit!
Protect yourself and your loved ones. These idiots are out there.
Yeah, I'm sure they won't be packin'.
I have three concealed handgun permits and carry two handguns, but before those options, use these:
1) Avoid a confrontation if AT ALL Possible.
2) Drive away! V8 beats .38 any day. Stop behind cars so you can see the road behind their rear tires.
3) Pepper spray is better for most situations.
@@johnwilburn couldn't agree with you more.I was at a stoplight last summer and beeped my horn because nobody was moving when the light turned green and it wasn't one of those long beeps it was just a really quick one and two cars in front of mea guy in a big truck got pissed off and pulled over and waited for me to pass and try to block me in the middle of the road and got out of his truck and running towards my car so I hurried up and got out of there.people are insane and I would never pull over and let someone approach my vehicle in that situation.
Square Hammer ...and keep your doors locked.
Their gonna love this geek in prison, I bet he's already wearing lipstick
@@jimlamanna9712 riiight, I get the latter but what's up with the stretched out earlobes?
Sexual violence is another crime not justice.
The prison system needs change.
@@gloriafb46 that's when the aryan brotherhood member counteracts this punk's gag reflex when he blows his load
Hopefully, he'll cell with Sandusky.
He grew a goatee. Ready for fun.
Looks like the type of guy to punch a hole in the wall cuz his football team lost
I remember when we used to respect elderly or people older than ourselves
I only respect people who respect me no matter what age you are. I work in a grocery store in a town that is considered a "retirement community" so about 80% of the customers I deal with on a daily basis are old and a lot of them are nice and treat me with respect and I return the favor and some of them be really rude and expect automatic respect because they are old. I'll respect anyone who doesn't give me a reason not too.
@@dylanzane1414 well said.
This punk brags about beating up an older guy. huh
But there’s a lot of shitbird old people out there whom are entitled to absolutely no amount of respect
@@kyleanderson2949 To the point of beating them to death? Really??
People are so insane. Sad.
Is it really worth throwing your life away over something like this? If you have anger issues, get help.
I can't believe that he actually boasted after killing an innocent man . Hope he gets the chance to sit peacefully in jail and re-think his actions .
@Abra Julian Good idea actually and very suitable for such a person .
You know the road raging old man pulled over and initiated the fight yeah? Do you think the kid is magneto and used his mindpowers to stop that truck from his motorbike? I have no sympathy for people who start fights. This should have been manslaughter.
@@hansolo631 that is true. if the old man had it his way, it'd be him standing in court with the kid dead or in the hospital. classic case of a man needing to know his limitations.
@@herculesbrofister265 True. He got served.
once he was down there is no self defense
Not generally, but possibly in this case. Someone being down does not necessary mean he/she is not a threat.
John Wilburn
THAT was a pretty dumb comment.
@@johnwilburn
This pos did not fight the right senior citizen.
@@johnwilburn don't waste your time with finesse. these guys only look to their babble for guidance.
Okay.... I’ll bite. Do you believe everyone who is “down” is not a threat? Is an armed person, or a person reasonably believed to be armed, not a threat when they are “down?”
22 years is a reward for murder.
It's in his nature to kill just look at his cold face look NO REMORSE Charles Manson would have been proud of him
FE Gaming when I saw that the comment had 1 reply, I knew it would be the exact comment you wrote.
FE Gaming
Also:
1) Manson didn’t kill anyone
2) Manson never had the classic emotionless serial killer facial expressions, he had EVERY facial expression under the sun-
@FE Gaming Such a shame he died in prison for crimes he had no part in?
"The judge could have sentenced him to life in prison for what hes accused of doing here..." He's not accused, he was found guilty and convicted.
This is way I don’t drive
Lately I've been leaving fifteen minutes earlier for work and driving a little slower
lol...thats what pisses people off...youre doomed
Just keep slow in right lane and the whole world can get along
i sometimes pull over to let ragers pass me. i don't want trouble.
So you’re creating a hazard on the road by not following the speed limit ?
@@jakepedersen3312 Speed limit plus five...
How many times must it be said ... never, ever get out of your car in a road rage incident. That only escalates a potentially volatile situation.
Parents making monsters of children..
this is why I don't even look at other drivers and I carry a weapon
You can tell this young man has no remorse at all! Give him the max!
did the old man attack him first or what did happen ? i dont find anything in regards of that statement, i mean if it is correct or wrong
Just imagine if he just calmed down and drove away to his destination.
Yeah, but then we wouldn't have this to morbidly watch.
@@NicholasGuccione Trueeeee
Split infinitive?
Just imagine if the federal government wasn’t a criminal organization
how the woman that killed the military man on his motor cycle got SIX years only ???!!!!! RETRIAL, GET A NEW NORMAL JUDGE FOR HER MURDER SENTENCE !! PROTEST!!
The guy on the motorcycle attacked her and her car. What goes around comes around.
I'd like to know what killed the guy. A single punch? A cinder block? The loser in an altercation isn't necessarily a murder victim, just as the winner isn't a murderer.
not enough, at 42, should he get out, he's still be dangerous. He should be at least 70, ..not 42.
Paul Francis... He will not survive till 42. Prison inmates, do not take kindly to people who mistreat the elderly. He will either commit suicide, or be killed.
He'll be dead before 24 in prison, rest assured!! Often happens, just never reported. Old news, since days of Al Capon. Either he gets in with wrong ethnic crowd, or is "contracted out" by loved ones of victims. Happens more than you think. Jeffery Dahmer, the famous eater of his victims, for example, was bashed in head and drowned in a toilet by a contractor, allegedly. Noice, eh? :D
Dude went from ‘I don’t care that you broke your elbow’ to stone cold killer.
What?
@@mikemal4398 You're clearly not a man of culture.
If you engage in road rage then expect to defend yourself
That shmendrick beats up an old man and CANNOT help himself but to crow about it, beating his hairless chest, bragging to all the ppl in his Fortnight group.
He looks like an antifa mugshot... that dense expression..
@@janetmcarthur5257 your blind hatred of antifa is akin to racism...
they are entitled to their political opinions just like we are.
Now he'll be traded to whoever has the most cigarettes 😳
He'll be smoking some n cigars
His parents will be around the age of the victim by the time he's released.
This is so sad. I feel so sorry for the family of the deceased. I think 22 years is rather a lenient term for such a heinous crime.
TBH the older gentleman stepped out of his car to fight too. It was mutual combat. It didn't say he grabbed a rock and beat him to death... he probably got knocked down and hit his head. That is something you must except if you exit your vehicle as a man approaching another man. This sentence was too harsh.
Well in this world, if you have money like he bragged he did, you'll be fine.
But the girl that chased a guy on a motorcycle and hit him from behind and killed him got 6 years.
Equality!?
Bob M
Until men demonstrate and demand change this will continue to happen.
With the Me Too movement, men don't have a chance. And the news media makes it even worse. Soon our voice will count for nothing, and a woman can make up any story she wants to progress there narrative.
OH this has already happened!
Fucked up, I totally agree.
FAGGOTWARE STUDIOS and women
You losers are such fucking pussies.
Opus Love Productions what does that have to do with the punishment? But, yes she did. She ran into him on purpose.
Dumbass you are.
The only fight he’s ever won. In reality he lost this one too.
Thank you, Judge!!!!!!
There's a reason we put animals down. Just saying.
@TailStraw xD Shut up American, you’re the fucking animal. Nobody likes you anymore.
@@36minutesago7 Wrong. 🇺🇲
Because they bark at night and I work at 6am
Uh, I know what you mean, but please dont insult animals, they are much better than this pos.
peta will take you down
He lost his appeal. (01-19-2023 Michigan v. Christian William Hillman)
This pansy dont look like he could beat his way out a wet paper bags
Try outliving that sentence, kid.
I'm glad he's off the roads.
I've met some people like this. Bad news. In traffic situations, give yourself a 30 second rule. Wait 30 seconds- do not react. By then, you will hopefully calm down. It really works.
I lost my hunting partner, my father, my fishing partner..
Ironically, so did the victim's son.
When I was younger and much more foolish and reckless I would get into altercations with other drivers that only but for the grace of God didn't end up with one or both us injured or killed or even worse some innocent bystander caught up in my stupidity. I look back on those times and thank the Lord that He preserved everyone's safety. It is never, ever worth it to get involved in any kind of road rage especially given the very permanent nature of the outcome over what is really nothing more than someone acting out of wounded pride. This is such a tragic case for everyone all over nothing.
execution?
Stiff sentence? Nah! Death penalty=just sentence.
Maybe, ....in the good old days of beheadings, the Chair, poison gas, and hanging, .....now they just put you to sleep!
If he gets released on parole at 42, that will be a crime all on its own. Never let him out. Screw a second chance. People like that don't deserve them.
He won’t survive prison. 💯
I agree but one look at a comment section will tell you that society is inundated with pussies that allow this. I believe that people on parole boards NEED to be held accountable if they release someone only for them to recommit
Am I missing something? How is his sentence "worse than life"?
In the uk he would of got 20 years only and be out in 20 years still have his life to do whatever he wants
Plus he would never be allowed to purchase or posses a firearm or ammunition
I'm just visiting prison on TH-cam I get to sleep at home tonight 😉😉
How is 20 years in prison worse then life in prison.
Did you watch the video? With a life sentence, he's eligible for parole in 15 years. With the 22.5 to 100 year sentence he got, he's eligible for parole in 22.5 years. 22.5 is greater than 15, thus this is a worse sentence. And with either sentence, he can spend the rest of this life in prison. Unless you think he can live long enough to outlive a 100 year sentence.
The Darla Jackson case, she chased a navy petty officer over 4 lanes of highway, rammed him in her car of his motorbike, and dragged him 300m down the road killing him. She got 6 years. The mind boggels how these judges work stuff out.
Women always get light sentences, if they are even sentenced at all!!!
Never talk to the police without a lawyer or public defender present.
That makes you look even more guilty.
@@billsloan5529 It doesnt matter if it makes you look guilty or not. NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer present and preferably, let your lawyer talk. In court, its not what you look like that matter, its what you said, and what they can prove.
@@HoboTango If you got nothing to hide one doesn't need somebody to speak for them.
@@billsloan5529 Not true. When cops arrest you, they are trying to charge you with a crime. They don't care if you're innocent. They will attempt to twist your words and use them against you.
@@Mliw90 discrediting all the good cops who do fight for justice I know cause my Brother is a Cop & he would turn in his Badge before he would arrest a innocent person he knows is innocent.
Typical of his kind.
This is an example of why we need to raise our kids to be respectful and disciplined, to understand that we can be upset with someone else and learn an appropriate way to deal with it. The human race is learning that if you anger someone the way to deal with it is to take their life. Sad!!
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
2 Timothy 3: 1-5
Pretty much sums up where we are as a society.
He’s definitely gonna hate meeting Big Bubba
Bubba loves to box and wrestle too
I kinda feel sorry for him, he should be treated for his anger issues instead of letting him rot in prison.
One of the problems with the young generations today is that they are so protected and coddled. No old school discipline and teachings to show these kids that they are accountable. They get away with so much. And than, this happens. He apparently felt tough by beating an old man to death. Well, now he gets to eat, sleep, breath and SHOWER with other men that are tough with NOTHING TO LOSE. Just don't drop the soap and definitely dont PICK IT UP.
ok boomer
This is why I just never honk at anyone or flip them off, not worth it. You never know when someone could have a gun or just pull over and start fighting. People have mental issues all the time where they can't accept being wrong and act irrationally.
I hate backing down to aggressive aholes but at least I will always avoid the worst two outcomes 1 Dead or 2 Life in jail for murder. Avoidance is often the best policy.
He'll be popular where he's going.
"Hey yo get my attorney too!"... "Hey yo... We dont do that."
I have a friend who suffers from road rage. If you are someone like that, please get help. Not only did that five-year-old lose his life, but that young man destroyed his own life. It isn't worth it.
Be a better driver yourself and road rage would not happen
@@JaneDoeyPeople who are inclined to get in a rage while driving can be set off by very minor things. The other drivers are not the problem.
@DonaldDonaldson-k2l You want to be my therapist?
At age 42 (when he's eligible for parole) he'll still be young enough to go do it again. Big risk.
Sorry mom. I just ruined my life!
Zero impulse control. Does it every time.
So lets get this straight, old man in truck chases 18 year old on motorbike for miles down the road. Follows him into church parking lot and grabs kid's neck, kid knocks him out and old man dies weeks later. Hmmm...
but why did the 64 year old get out of the vehicle?
He was pulled out of the car.
Kyle Taylor where did it say that?
I read a news article about it
Nevermind why the old man got out of the car. Why was the teen beating up on a defenseless old man is the real question
Javier, while the teen should not have done what he did, that doesn't mean people shouldn't learn how to avoid becoming victims, because that's essentially putting your trust in criminals not to commit crimes, which is nonsensical.
What a fool killing someone & ruining own life plus both families. They all need to be 1st rushing to the next red light. Didn't think things through...
Old dude ran him off the road with his pickup apparently. Now that I know that I'm feeling kinda iffy about a 20 year sentence, a teen doesn't deserve that(he was like 15 when it happened).
The son needs to attend every parole hearing.
hes going to get something longer than his sentence
@The Doobie Sisters and Sack Blabbath BIG time😂