I love how people see the internal lace loops and think it’s new. It shows how long it has been since proper tech has been incorporated into skate shoes. I like the slim down new shoes, but they just gave up on that stuff for so long for no reason
@@kbcastro I get the aesthetics thing, where some people don’t like the look, but why not have them on and people can just choose to still lace through the outside if they want to deal with the laces? Is like the toe box as well, you can hide all the plastics and rubbers under a covering of suede and make them last , but I guess then you sell less shoes……….😓
@@scottphilips8514 the only constant is change.One day the trends may return to the minimalistic age.But with dunk hype at an all time high.Techy shoes may be here to stay for a little bit.Not to say that companies still aren’t running minimalistic Vulc shoes still.Think about the big boy pants phase over the last few years, that shit will die once it becomes too trendy.
Yeah I definitely agree. I can't really justify spending $100 or more, _unless_ it is truly double or triple the durability. I've only encountered like two or three other shoes that were durable enough to be worth >$100. eS Accel OG, eS Evant and Etnies Joslin 1 (haven't tried the Joslin 2s yet, but I hear they are similar if not even better, so seems worth it too). There are some other shoes that are pretty tough. I was actually pleasantly surprised about the Nike SB Adversary skate shoes. But it did help I got them fairly cheap. For me the Nike SB Nyjah Free 2s were kind of average in terms of durability. Not terrible, but probably not durable enough for full price. I'm guessing the Nike SB Ishod is similar.
Nike sb needs to reissue the zoom tre that shoe was bulletproof. It has a cevlar upper and laces. I would sole swap them off with the nyjah since the zoom tre would crumble if used being so old. But that would be the most epic shoe ever. I dig the evants I just don’t get why they are so bulky. I can’t skate bulky shoes. I feel like I’m disconnected with my board
Since i've been back to skating over the last 2 years, i've had nothing but bad luck with shoes. I haven't had a pair last me longer than roughly 40 hours of skating. Nike and Adidas for the price tag i've found absolutely inferior to even the old crappy Accells and old Emerica Reynolds. The Buscenitz are terrific for about a weeks worth of skating, but lose their shape quickly leading to rolled ankle city. I don't want to admit it, but so far the best shoes i've had are these Cariumas durability wise. They took about 3 sessions to really break in, and i typically prefer skating off of suade vs rubber.. but i got used to it. Don't really care for their logo though and while their insoles are great for the first week, had to toss the expensive FP insoles in there that aren't really all that great either.
Local Joe. I am subscribed and enjoy your videos. Coming from another Joe that has been pushing wood for 20 years you must know my friend that Nike is trash. And all "skateboarding" footwear they will continue to put out will also be trash. Save your money buddy.
Why you gotta insult vans just cause you like higher tech shoes. It’s a shame cause I really liked your content and now I gotta unsubscribe because you can’t just diss good shoes over preference
I hope this shoe pushes the tech craze again. It's kind of tiring that the only other brand dabbling in tech is eS, which is unfortunate because STI uses cheap materials for all of their brands.
@@localjoe I think STI shoes are the best. At least for me. Sometimes, on some models, the choice of material should be different, but every brand does that sometimes.
Sadly,a lot of those tech features they did in 2000s were a gimmick. I love a simple shoe that uses tech that works. That Ishod shoe looks exactly like that. Ishod wouldnt probably sign his name under some gimmicky shoe. Thats good.
No lost me by saying people still skate crappy vans, perhaps the 438 was so good 30 years ago, that it is still good today, same with the half cab, The ishod looks like abunch of flashy bits, face it its a fashion thing, and theses 'improvements' .are just gimmicks, nikes best shoes are their most basic ones or dunks, my kostons look amazing. Not even a skateshoe
@@localjoe too uncomfortable, sticking to "crapoy vans' Was excited to try them, but the width is wrong they dont hold your toes, feet come in different sizes, and the ishods dont suit mine.
pretty disappointed in seeing only a week wear n tear and the front of the shoe looks wrecked in my opinion that's where they need to focus on shoes it would give them more life and less goo
@@localjoe excellent shoe the tread didn't last forever but they did lasted like 1.5 months of skating every single day nonstop and the tread is what goes first for me on every single shoe cause I'm shuffle master central the most damage I did to the upper was from Casper's and that was to the lace protectors
Love the design. But these are oddly NARROW. I even tried on larger than normal sizes and my foot was still wider than the outsole even when lengthwise I had a full inch of extra space. The comments about them hugging your feet and fitting even with loose laces would seem to corroborate. So sad. I have what I’d call and average male width. But these shoes are expecting something else entirely. Bummer.
I almost have a hole in the kickflip zone from 2 2-3 hour sessions of learning to kickflip, very shit considering how expensive they are. Comfort and looks they're great, but they just are a bit weak. Compared to nike blazer highs which lasted a month of trying kickflips and ollies and everything
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11:58 Bad idea. The stock insole of any shoe always packs out and loses its qualities extremely fast. Just get some aftermarket ones like FP or eS STI. The eS STI is actually quite bad in terms of longevity but protects your foot really well and is amazing to skate. They usually pack out in 3 months of skating. The FP can last up to a year, but at the end of that year it'll get really hard and lose its protection. My suggestion is 3 months for the STI insole and 6-9 months for the FP. I've had many pairs of each one.
So sad that everybody (favorite skate shoe reviewrs) keep saying that will not last, but i can tell from milles if that shoe only has 1 week. I prefer spend +100 usd on some tiagos than this. Great review
Sick I like to cut out the side oh old shoes and put the patches inside the new shoes and it all holds togther is you leave the last two holes of the old shose cut out patch.
Which shoe at this point overall skates better for you? The Ishod’s or the Force 58? Disregard any wear concerns. Just purely how you feel after a session?
There was a model from p rod I believe the 8 or 7 and I am getting a lot of vibes from that model. But ishiod knocked his shoe out of the park. Now we need a luan pro model
@@enjoithejunt1081 you ain’t kidding bro. I feel like it’s getting to the point where every thing has been done already when it comes to a skate shoe. My biggest problem is I wear the sole out of the shoe way before I shred the top of the shoe. Good thing I ride switch or I would have one shoe that is somewhat new and one that is beat
You should check out the entnies marana, they have a similar profile maybe a little more meatier, but they last a long Time and have a lot of cushion.I’m more of a cup sole guy so you might think they don’t have good board feel but I love those shoes. Only complaint is the laces ripped within like a 30 minute session lol.
Their lace protection is mid. The eS Evants have the best lace protection because the laces are designed to go behind the upper. Harkens back to the K3 days.
Only the DC Lynx OGs have the lace protection, and unfortunately those are limited releases, the DC Lynx Zero is the model that’s continually stocked which unfortunately doesn’t have lace protection
Glad to see a new design and not just a colorway. I just can't come up off nike money. I really want to try some Es' but I have an issue with being addicted to Van's. I got a stack of rowleys and kyle walkers yet to be skated. I pick shoes off macari or on sale. I got 3 or 4 pairs worn once or less off merci for less than half price. $70 is my top dollar and only pay that for a rowley classic. I got some kw1 with tags for $25 a while back even
I love how people see the internal lace loops and think it’s new. It shows how long it has been since proper tech has been incorporated into skate shoes. I like the slim down new shoes, but they just gave up on that stuff for so long for no reason
Exactly right now I am skating etnies and has those internal laces loops
I think just the trend in aesthetics over the years.Less techy looking and minimalist.
That was emericas thing all through the 90s
@@kbcastro I get the aesthetics thing, where some people don’t like the look, but why not have them on and people can just choose to still lace through the outside if they want to deal with the laces?
Is like the toe box as well, you can hide all the plastics and rubbers under a covering of suede and make them last , but I guess then you sell less shoes……….😓
@@scottphilips8514 the only constant is change.One day the trends may return to the minimalistic age.But with dunk hype at an all time high.Techy shoes may be here to stay for a little bit.Not to say that companies still aren’t running minimalistic Vulc shoes still.Think about the big boy pants phase over the last few years, that shit will die once it becomes too trendy.
Yeah I definitely agree. I can't really justify spending $100 or more, _unless_ it is truly double or triple the durability. I've only encountered like two or three other shoes that were durable enough to be worth >$100. eS Accel OG, eS Evant and Etnies Joslin 1 (haven't tried the Joslin 2s yet, but I hear they are similar if not even better, so seems worth it too). There are some other shoes that are pretty tough. I was actually pleasantly surprised about the Nike SB Adversary skate shoes. But it did help I got them fairly cheap. For me the Nike SB Nyjah Free 2s were kind of average in terms of durability. Not terrible, but probably not durable enough for full price. I'm guessing the Nike SB Ishod is similar.
Nike sb needs to reissue the zoom tre that shoe was bulletproof. It has a cevlar upper and laces. I would sole swap them off with the nyjah since the zoom tre would crumble if used being so old. But that would be the most epic shoe ever. I dig the evants I just don’t get why they are so bulky. I can’t skate bulky shoes. I feel like I’m disconnected with my board
Etnies maranas are they way to go
Nike SB Bruin Reacts are underrated they are pretty durable and they skate so good
Since i've been back to skating over the last 2 years, i've had nothing but bad luck with shoes. I haven't had a pair last me longer than roughly 40 hours of skating. Nike and Adidas for the price tag i've found absolutely inferior to even the old crappy Accells and old Emerica Reynolds. The Buscenitz are terrific for about a weeks worth of skating, but lose their shape quickly leading to rolled ankle city. I don't want to admit it, but so far the best shoes i've had are these Cariumas durability wise. They took about 3 sessions to really break in, and i typically prefer skating off of suade vs rubber.. but i got used to it. Don't really care for their logo though and while their insoles are great for the first week, had to toss the expensive FP insoles in there that aren't really all that great either.
Local Joe. I am subscribed and enjoy your videos. Coming from another Joe that has been pushing wood for 20 years you must know my friend that Nike is trash. And all "skateboarding" footwear they will continue to put out will also be trash. Save your money buddy.
Love your vids man, thanks for making everyday a Friday!
Why you gotta insult vans just cause you like higher tech shoes. It’s a shame cause I really liked your content and now I gotta unsubscribe because you can’t just diss good shoes over preference
I hope this shoe pushes the tech craze again. It's kind of tiring that the only other brand dabbling in tech is eS, which is unfortunate because STI uses cheap materials for all of their brands.
STI shoes always look a bit off...
DC has a great tech push during their rediscover phase, wish they’d bring that back
@@localjoe I think STI shoes are the best. At least for me. Sometimes, on some models, the choice of material should be different, but every brand does that sometimes.
Do we need a tech push?
Perhaps the old tech works, happened in other sports they went back to what worked
Sadly,a lot of those tech features they did in 2000s were a gimmick. I love a simple shoe that uses tech that works. That Ishod shoe looks exactly like that. Ishod wouldnt probably sign his name under some gimmicky shoe. Thats good.
they are 180 at my local skate shop witch is about 120 usd, we get hella ripped of in new zealand
I live in Cincinnati trust me the vents work because my feet get real cold
No lost me by saying people still skate crappy vans, perhaps the 438 was so good 30 years ago, that it is still good today, same with the half cab,
The ishod looks like abunch of flashy bits, face it its a fashion thing, and theses 'improvements' .are just gimmicks, nikes best shoes are their most basic ones or dunks, my kostons look amazing. Not even a skateshoe
So you’ve skated the ishods?
@@localjoe too uncomfortable, sticking to "crapoy vans'
Was excited to try them, but the width is wrong they dont hold your toes, feet come in different sizes, and the ishods dont suit mine.
I’m 2 sessions in with mine so far. They feel good but are already showing signs of wear and have a ripped lace
Did they fit small, big or tts? And do you have wide feet
totally agree on the shoe laces hope they improve more in the future
pretty disappointed in seeing only a week wear n tear and the front of the shoe looks wrecked in my opinion that's where they need to focus on shoes it would give them more life and less goo
I personally found the lakai Telford had that good mix of protection and boardfeel
Been wanting to try them!
@@localjoe excellent shoe the tread didn't last forever but they did lasted like 1.5 months of skating every single day nonstop and the tread is what goes first for me on every single shoe cause I'm shuffle master central the most damage I did to the upper was from Casper's and that was to the lace protectors
Funny I was a nike fan, I switch to vans BOOM sprained ankle, let's just say I'll be going back to nike sb.
Love the design. But these are oddly NARROW. I even tried on larger than normal sizes and my foot was still wider than the outsole even when lengthwise I had a full inch of extra space. The comments about them hugging your feet and fitting even with loose laces would seem to corroborate. So sad. I have what I’d call and average male width. But these shoes are expecting something else entirely. Bummer.
Trust me,the vents work. My local is a black prefab park and these are the only ones that my feet were not burning up by 30 minutes
Wish I could wear and skate them. Might buy again 1/2 size up to me they felt super narrow.
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Lol I knew people would be salty over the Vans opinion 🤣🍿
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Bro congrats on 11k‼️🔥🔥
Thanks my man!
Would you say they be worth if it they was $55 dollars ?
Shoe is overrated highkey
I almost have a hole in the kickflip zone from 2 2-3 hour sessions of learning to kickflip, very shit considering how expensive they are. Comfort and looks they're great, but they just are a bit weak. Compared to nike blazer highs which lasted a month of trying kickflips and ollies and everything
How did they fit? And do you have wide feet lol?
My favourite ones are Etnies Marana Michelin or Etnies Joslin 1 or 2.
I've heard a lot of good things about the joslins! Might have to try!
Seems like the bottoms of the ishods are holding up better than the force 58s so far
they are for sure
Solid dude solid review
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Loving the content my man🔥🔥🔥
Whens your next song dropping?
@@localjoe 2/22/22!!
Still looks good
I had the same wear and tear problem with my kalis mids where I flick blew out in 2 weeks they skated great but cant afford to buy them every 2 weeks
If only we were sponsored...
@@localjoe forreal that would be nice
11:58 Bad idea. The stock insole of any shoe always packs out and loses its qualities extremely fast. Just get some aftermarket ones like FP or eS STI. The eS STI is actually quite bad in terms of longevity but protects your foot really well and is amazing to skate. They usually pack out in 3 months of skating. The FP can last up to a year, but at the end of that year it'll get really hard and lose its protection. My suggestion is 3 months for the STI insole and 6-9 months for the FP. I've had many pairs of each one.
Can’t wait to skate mine🙌🏾
They skate so good!
So sad that everybody (favorite skate shoe reviewrs) keep saying that will not last, but i can tell from milles if that shoe only has 1 week. I prefer spend +100 usd on some tiagos than this. Great review
Those shoes seems great
Also i've just noticed that i'm not subscribed to your channel,gonna subscribe right now
I would like a review of Etnies Marana. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Dope to see the that’s life skate vid in the back and be of my favorite vids of all time keep up with the dope vids man🔥🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Sick
I like to cut out the side oh old shoes and put the patches inside the new shoes and it all holds togther is you leave the last two holes of the old shose cut out patch.
those hidden lace loop are definitely nothing new. These used to be on nearly every shoe 10 years ago. It is proven to work tho.
Hey if you feel up to it, can you do a review of that rubber grip tape? I've seen it pop up a few times, but I can never remember what it's called.
I live in CT and those vents definitely work, my foot gets cold if I’m wearing them just to chill
Try Nike SB Bruin Reacts after Ishods
Man , the rumor has it . that those shoes comes in hi or mid in the future.
Mate the laces thing is so old news 😴
Yet most shoes still put the laces fully exposed... I'm trying to show love cuz I want them to make more like it!
@@localjoe still have a few kevlars from back in the day...too bad bean counters stepped in $ > what we want
Super glue the outside laces :)
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First... to reply... to first.....
Uk buys always go one size up, nikes are narrow as.
he said he likes slip ons lmao
Great review! Can you mention about the sizing? Thank you
Which shoe at this point overall skates better for you? The Ishod’s or the Force 58? Disregard any wear concerns. Just purely how you feel after a session?
I have both, I'm still skating my force 58's. They feel good so far
There was a model from p rod I believe the 8 or 7 and I am getting a lot of vibes from that model. But ishiod knocked his shoe out of the park. Now we need a luan pro model
I agree I just wish it didn’t take them so long to make all these new shoes
@@enjoithejunt1081 you ain’t kidding bro. I feel like it’s getting to the point where every thing has been done already when it comes to a skate shoe. My biggest problem is I wear the sole out of the shoe way before I shred the top of the shoe. Good thing I ride switch or I would have one shoe that is somewhat new and one that is beat
Zumiez just broke the street date for the Leather black/gum and the black/grey color ways.
Zumiez sucks
Good analysis 💯💯💯
You should check out the entnies marana, they have a similar profile maybe a little more meatier, but they last a long Time and have a lot of cushion.I’m more of a cup sole guy so you might think they don’t have good board feel but I love those shoes. Only complaint is the laces ripped within like a 30 minute session lol.
DC lynx have the thing that protect your laces
Their lace protection is mid. The eS Evants have the best lace protection because the laces are designed to go behind the upper. Harkens back to the K3 days.
Only the DC Lynx OGs have the lace protection, and unfortunately those are limited releases, the DC Lynx Zero is the model that’s continually stocked which unfortunately doesn’t have lace protection
Glad to see a new design and not just a colorway.
I just can't come up off nike money.
I really want to try some Es' but I have an issue with being addicted to Van's. I got a stack of rowleys and kyle walkers yet to be skated.
I pick shoes off macari or on sale. I got 3 or 4 pairs worn once or less off merci for less than half price. $70 is my top dollar and only pay that for a rowley classic. I got some kw1 with tags for $25 a while back even
Use Nike's return policy @local joe