$15 SKATEBOARD BEARINGS vs $60 SKATEBOARD BEARINGS

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  • @daledecker
    @daledecker  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2642

    God, what a stupid video.

    • @lcrowI
      @lcrowI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Nah 🅱

    • @henryhunch1724
      @henryhunch1724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Dale Decker odd for you to leave a comment a year later but ok.

    • @Betoruffo
      @Betoruffo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      “ HOW POSERS SET UP THEIR BOARD”
      “HOW POSERS GO TO ZUMIEZ”
      Jk dale we al love you

    • @xdarrenx
      @xdarrenx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yup :P I bet if I ask u in total silence to stop a stopwatch a dozen times on an exact time, it would probably be 0.03 seconds apart for multiple readings from that alone.

    • @jorgem.4382
      @jorgem.4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah we know

  • @ByTheGrave
    @ByTheGrave 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4108

    Longevity doesn't matter when you can buy 4 sets of reds for the same price as 1 set of swiss

    • @TravisAlanHall
      @TravisAlanHall 7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      was gonna say the same thing

    • @mushlove6933
      @mushlove6933 7 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      but think about not having to keep switching bearings. that sucks. and buying them if u don't buy them all at once. plus swiss is way faster.

    • @laundrysheets9156
      @laundrysheets9156 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      justinight it's not hard to switch bearings and it takes little effort to clean them

    • @Dopearrow
      @Dopearrow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      And we just saw how swiss was NOT way faster. Not any faster actually.

    • @gavinroberts2581
      @gavinroberts2581 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Max no you can't.

  • @Cha1r
    @Cha1r 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1645

    you should have repeated each test 3 times and got the average times of the 3 tests then compared times

    • @thomaslane8017
      @thomaslane8017 7 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      this guy listens in science

    • @Chris-mx4jb
      @Chris-mx4jb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      damn straight bud. I was about to comment that but I had faith someone said it first

    • @trobolina2
      @trobolina2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      that would still not be a big enough sample size, plus human reaction time is arounf 0,2-0,3 seconds, that results in a 3-4% inaccuarcy. better would be to get an dummy weight, and track and let the computer messure it, then do 1000 with each bearing and take the averages to get an more accurate comparision.

    • @masskiller4825
      @masskiller4825 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      whatever tralala
      wtf

    • @18ps3anos
      @18ps3anos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      human reaction time is reduced with expectation. When you know you have to do something, specially when you have a visual feedback (seeing the finish line) you can be a lot more precise than when you are not expecting and have to react.

  • @ADane-pv1uo
    @ADane-pv1uo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +887

    Long story short, we learned absolutely nothing.

    • @daledecker
      @daledecker  5 ปีที่แล้ว +280

      That is correct

    • @minislonkers8189
      @minislonkers8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dale Decker 69th like nice

    • @Ozclusive
      @Ozclusive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I learned what ABEC stands for

    • @benfromvt
      @benfromvt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@daledecker liked the video cuz ur comment lmfao respect a dude that deosnt bs defend nothing

    • @GeneralNOH
      @GeneralNOH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For people who do want to learn something:
      Its true, abec doesnt matter for skating, and a lot of the chinese bearings put whatever number they want anyway. A quality Abec 3 is plenty good enough.
      You dont need "Skate" branded bearings or bearings from a skate shop. Skate branded bearings arent "designed for skating" they are literally just an industry standard 608 bearing.
      (With the exception of 6 balls; to my knowledge these are newish and the first bearing designed specific to skating).
      As long as you get quality stainless steel bearings with nylon cages and low friction removeable shield/s (for servicing) made in Japan/Germany/Switzerland and use a good lubricant you're going to have the equivalent to Bones Swiss, and if you get them from a bearings wholesaler it will probably cost less too.
      In saying that it is easier to just buy bones swiss and not too much more expensive.
      Bones reds are made in china; but they are better than majority of bearings coming out of China, they use decent quality stainless steel and quality control is good. Problem with most chinese bearings isnt the abec, but the grade of stainless steel tends to corrode quicker and deform easier, quality control is poor. They start out "fine" but within a short period the preapplied lubricant breaks down and everything goes down hill.

  • @rhysnicholas8195
    @rhysnicholas8195 6 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I feel like my bearings are almost TOO good... I poke the damn board and it blasts off into space.

    • @brianvilleda27
      @brianvilleda27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What bearings do u use

    • @g7ost0p
      @g7ost0p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@brianvilleda27 bones blues

    • @shmokeythefatcat
      @shmokeythefatcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@g7ost0p they have bluez???

    • @g7ost0p
      @g7ost0p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@shmokeythefatcat idk lol i was just making a joke, you could definitely get blue covers for your bearings tho

    • @shmokeythefatcat
      @shmokeythefatcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@g7ost0p u know whats sad. They actually make bones blues

  • @tommyn6874
    @tommyn6874 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2823

    I used the bearings of my fidget spinner.

    • @serina1808
      @serina1808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Joey Crawford u can do that??dam imma try

    • @brucedavidson7422
      @brucedavidson7422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +354

      Serina_The Swagillicious I did it with a downhill longboard and they were 100% ceramic bearings and one blew up on a slide and I destroyed my hand because I only had one glove at the time and it wrecked a 60$ set of wheels

    • @spywizard3098
      @spywizard3098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Joey Crawford wtf that is the stupidest use for the most expensive bearings on the market

    • @yikes6969
      @yikes6969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maddox Marshall reading comprehension

    • @katiecales3054
      @katiecales3054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joey Crawford that's what I just was thinking lol wonder what they are

  • @Peeramide
    @Peeramide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    "the bones are a little bit faster" thanks but... WICH ONES

  • @JohnKingPDX
    @JohnKingPDX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    You have a video camera. That's essentially a precision timing device. Just measure the frames between drop-in and finish line. Boom. Accurate.

  • @cky2k7
    @cky2k7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I don't care about about how fast they go I'm broke so 15 bones reds is good for me just keep em oiled and clean em every once in a while

    • @fuckyshityfuckshit
      @fuckyshityfuckshit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Amen brother. Bones reds gets my broke ass flying

    • @daledecker
      @daledecker  5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      man I really need to unlist this video

    • @gskinner7440
      @gskinner7440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fuckyshityfuckshit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @chilli-iceolive-abode2447
      @chilli-iceolive-abode2447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even bother with bones. They've marketed themselves great though cuz skateboarders pay that little extra for them. You can use real cheap bearings that are just as good for like five bucks.

    • @TheDeadKingsRaven
      @TheDeadKingsRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just posting to annoy tf outa dale again. 😂 don’t unlist it, delete it. It literally has no value and only makes the argument about reds vs Swiss more convoluted and unclear.

  • @theCoolnes64
    @theCoolnes64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    you should have gone down the hill several times and took an average for each set of bearings, and compared the averages. it would have made for a more accurate experiment.

    • @clockworkcrimson
      @clockworkcrimson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly what I was thinking..

    • @jerseysilva2036
      @jerseysilva2036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All the smart kids comment this

    • @Flipside-_-
      @Flipside-_- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's still the human variable left in the test which still can skew the results quite a bit.

    • @EngineerPCDoctor
      @EngineerPCDoctor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Flipside which is why you do it 3+ times as consistently as you can to have an AVERAGE. Thats the point. He just rushed it to give an opinion for viewers who want validation when in reality its fine to trial and error what fits you.

    • @javierc8241
      @javierc8241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Guys it’s fucking skateboard bearing does it really matter that much

  • @rjw7201
    @rjw7201 7 ปีที่แล้ว +603

    testing starts at 6:47

    • @lcrowI
      @lcrowI 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SteezyFrancisco danm longest

    • @CaptainThisShip
      @CaptainThisShip 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lolol

    • @ratpoutine
      @ratpoutine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thank you so much he talks WAY TOO MUCH

    • @fatherlessflavid
      @fatherlessflavid 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SteezyFrancisco damn its like that? Lol

    • @gonadiator
      @gonadiator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Literally... is this guy on drugs? Keeps saying he's gonna "put the bearings in his board now" and then rambles forever.

  • @craigphillips9383
    @craigphillips9383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    I always thought ABEC was a brand name.

    • @PeterKornum
      @PeterKornum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Abec11 is a brand... actually really clever marketing choosing that name...

    • @danika4583
      @danika4583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol

    • @dizzod123
      @dizzod123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      “Damn ABEC is really popular.”

    • @codysaunders1205
      @codysaunders1205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      craig phillips I thought the Abec Number was the amount of balls in the baring

    • @collincham1985
      @collincham1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

  • @wanyekest5766
    @wanyekest5766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    You could have saved time by doing front wheels swiss and back wheels reds and just manual

  • @sunhatkid
    @sunhatkid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    proud of you babe

  • @cookesam6
    @cookesam6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Im eating a milky way right now.

    • @cookesam6
      @cookesam6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also dude you couldve just timed how long they go for by having the different bearings on different ends of the same board by sliding it on ground and then holding it up (to be consistent in the initial velocities or frequencies of the wheels rotation), friction is a constant variable in both experiemnts and timing it would be less effort i think but now im feeling like im just choosing the boring option oki'llshutupnow.

    • @angelsotelo6387
      @angelsotelo6387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good fuck Snickers

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those strawberry milky ways are the shit

    • @davewest8522
      @davewest8522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm eating Maltesers

    • @fatboi3559
      @fatboi3559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I haven't had a milky way in like 2 years

  • @willyblonka1813
    @willyblonka1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have a tip for ya, if your ever doing speed comparisons in the future, I think it would be smart to develop averages for both of them which means doing multiple tests and then making them into averages. Loved the video!

  • @craigstanley6530
    @craigstanley6530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An easier explanation for abec is that it's just how precise the ball bearing is inside the race. Abec is just a rating for speed abec 9 may be rated for 150 mph while a skateboard won't go that fast. Also some bearings spin great just on the wheel but once your on it they won't be as smooth or have more resistance. Many people think bones is the way to go but there is many others out there just as good. Solid vid dale.

  • @robertarispe3586
    @robertarispe3586 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Always skated bones red and when started working at zumies I stole some bones swiss

  • @mushieslushie
    @mushieslushie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These are the same exact bearings, just one is made is Switzerland.

  • @Dtyler171
    @Dtyler171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have had the super swiss 6 for many years now...and I still remember that it took a while for them to break in. Initially they felt similar in speed, but smoother than reds. After they were broken in, super swiss 6 did get faster than reds.
    On top of that, the super swiss 6 will still clean up even after many years.

  • @818rapthatsthat
    @818rapthatsthat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    your face on the thumb nail freaking hilarious 😂

  • @atrueb76
    @atrueb76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have both bearings myself and my opinion is as follows: REDS are fine. I prefer the SWISS though because 1) they spin quieter 2) they have less play and hence they are quiter and 3) they come with those 8x10mm metal spacers that go between the bearings inside the wheel, which work magic, as you can tighten the truck bolts all the way and the wheels will still spin insanely long. I used to have SWISS back in the '80 and they are my go to bearings. They last forever no matter how old they are. If you are on a tight budget though, I suggest the REDS and upgarde them with a set of those spacers.

  • @jimflys2
    @jimflys2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would suggest doing a 20 times with each bearing to get a good average and to eliminate timer start/stop error since you are not going thru and trap. Wheel width and hardness will of course effect your speed much more than the bearings.

  • @faithlewis1661
    @faithlewis1661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have my regular bones reds bearings and bought speed cream for it. I’ve had these bearings for 9 years...and took a 7 year hiatus. So for about a year-a year in a half when I scared religiously I used these and then left the bearings in and put my skateboard away for that 7 ish years. Hopped back on my board recently and my bearings are still wonderful.

  • @Skubasteph
    @Skubasteph 7 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    this is the lest scientific test iv ever seen and is a complete waste of time

    • @TDFMarkGochev
      @TDFMarkGochev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      steve this is the least grammatical correct comment I have ever seen

    • @Lightning-wv5vy
      @Lightning-wv5vy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TDFMarkGochev lol, I was gonna say thay

    • @auntjenifer7774
      @auntjenifer7774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TDFMarkGochev says the guy who forgot to end his sentence with proper punctuation !? 🤣😂😅😆😉

    • @rv_jumpshotz1139
      @rv_jumpshotz1139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lightning #2 oh I didn’t realize you were going to say “thay.”

    • @Lightning-wv5vy
      @Lightning-wv5vy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rv_jumpshotz1139 XD *that

  • @Hskateboards
    @Hskateboards 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    you should definitely try the Bronson g3 bearings. For me they have been lasting twice as long as bones Swiss bearings now, and I feel like they can easily go for another 2-3 months for sure!

  • @jamesbelkin9204
    @jamesbelkin9204 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been using oust for 3 years now, really good bearings. Fast and smooth. I also have a set of super swiss 6s. What is cool anoit bones is that they have replacement parts for your bearings, like if a shield or crown breaks you can replace those rather than buy a whole new set of bearings.

  • @craigsmith7416
    @craigsmith7416 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To get a more clear result of each bearing set, perform each experiment at least ten times per set (preferably 100 times), and take the the average time. As stated in the video, having another person or automated timing device would improve accuracy of the experiment, too. When performing any experiment, it is always important to remember to maintain integrity of the tests (i.e. starting at and running the exact same path; maintain the same mass on the board--yourself, a sandbag, etc.) Good test.

  • @cloutdoors5674
    @cloutdoors5674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Would have been interesting to see which bearing rolled further. I dont believe the swiss are necessarily FASTER but they will coast longer

    • @GretSeat
      @GretSeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Asking the real questions.

    • @stalwartzero7001
      @stalwartzero7001 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which makes you faster, less pushing/higher average speed if there’s less friction/resistance

  • @samlee2562
    @samlee2562 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    vid starts at 6:48
    ...at which point you realise it's a pretty wobbly test :)

  • @jdimitriBe
    @jdimitriBe ปีที่แล้ว

    This was sick bro!! Keep on rolling ..

  • @brycenmiller2334
    @brycenmiller2334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah big man asking the big questions?!!

  • @harrisontexas4792
    @harrisontexas4792 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You should've also done a test to see which ones go further

    • @daledecker
      @daledecker  7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Dachi Bruh I know I realize that after it was up. I'm curious to know if the differences are as subtle as some think.

    • @Weaverbeats
      @Weaverbeats 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dale you should do a pt 2 to this video using this method! :)

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dale Decker subtle in performance. Different in longevity. Also your lubricant matters as how easy/fast/long they roll

  • @robertdodd253
    @robertdodd253 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dale daddy dope vids all the time. always watchin right as you upload your vids keep me rippin and dippin lol.
    OREO GANG. SLAMMIN

    • @robertdodd253
      @robertdodd253 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phil Schultz tried what...

  • @peter9011
    @peter9011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The age old question no one can be arsed to test 😂 Thankyou

  • @willmatthews2121
    @willmatthews2121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit stupid, but I love it
    Haha
    Your the best man! 😂

  • @BrettOPediaTV
    @BrettOPediaTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Bro.... I appreciate the effort. But, the Swiss bearings are about smoothness, distance, longevity, durability and maintaining momentum. There won’t be a difference in speed with the test you just did. My bones super swiss 6 lasted me 10 years, and those ones are noticeably superior to any bearing I’ve ever had.
    There are so many confounding variables in this test that skew the results. I would put money on this: that you could do this test with any bearings at the skate shop really and they’d all finish in the same ballpark of time because science.

  • @tyrian666
    @tyrian666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive been skating for 11 years and ive always used minilogos bearings theyre fine and ive never cared what abec they had

  • @eroc4686
    @eroc4686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember getting in to these debates back in the early 90’s. Good to see this guy talking about the myth involved in the debate.

    • @mr_ozzio5095
      @mr_ozzio5095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Things were so much simpler back in 88-97, either NMB or NSK and if you had lots of money..GERMAN/GKN or POWELL/SWISS!
      Rollerblading started the ABEC-war from the early-mid 90, skateboarding jumped on the band wagon late 90s.

  • @yorkrojas1533
    @yorkrojas1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kuddos friend!! Very professional. Thanks for the input!!

  • @NLUSB
    @NLUSB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Slammin

    • @dtom4367
      @dtom4367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glorified H always

    • @patrickstar710
      @patrickstar710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ._.

    • @christianbrading141
      @christianbrading141 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glorified H don't ever change ur profile pic man, ur a legend

    • @sirrslime
      @sirrslime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SSSSSLLLLLAAAAAAMMMMAAAAAINN

    • @Astro80s
      @Astro80s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *SLAMMIN*

  • @Stonebaer
    @Stonebaer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The difference between a regular bearing and a skate bearing is basically the reinforcement of the shell, plus how skate bearings can take a hit, whereas regular bearing with blow out faster

    • @GeneralNOH
      @GeneralNOH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Aside from 6 balls, a skate bearing IS just a regular 608 bearing with a brand stuck on the side.
      Only difference is the quality of materials used, plenty of "regular" bearings that use good materials and plenty of "skate" bearings that use shit materials. Mostly depends where theyre made; china usually = shit, japan/germany/swiss usually = good.

  • @code4est.95
    @code4est.95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, why didn't I think about doing this for my 6th grade science fair project? Perfect basic variables and log recording. Nice.

  • @browniegames865
    @browniegames865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a set of bones swiss from 20 years ago that still spin like a dream. And they have been skated hard for about 2 years straight then off and on hard the rest of those years.

  • @pablopenguin24
    @pablopenguin24 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7 bearings is the minimum number required to satisfy any normal skating conditions even when being handled roughly. You could add more bearings to increase the RPM rating at the cost of small friction increase, which is not necessary. If you used 6 bearings the pressure is not distributed throughout all of them sufficiently to avoid damage to the bearings from heavy impact.
    Hope you see this. Good video, man, great detail.

    • @SeekerGoldstone
      @SeekerGoldstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That couldn't possibly be further from the truth.
      The standard 608 bearing has 6 balls in the races... That's 90+% of all skate bearings. They also make skate bearings with 5 balls only, specifically because the larger individual balls withstand impacts better.
      In their intended mechanical application, they aren't supposed to carry a load in the vertical position that we use them... they are supposed to be mounted in the direction that we would think is "sideways" and carry a load in that direction. (Notice that even with no load, your bearings spin faster horizontally than vertically) Adding more balls increases the maximum load in the intended direction but decreases maximum load in the direction that we typically use it, while increasing friction.
      A 7 ball setup is stronger in a powerslide but a 5 ball setup is stronger for landing from air. Regardless of how many balls are in your bearing, you are landing with all of your weight on 1 or 2 balls per bearing... you want those to be big balls.
      The increase in maximum rpm is irrelevant because even with an abec one 5 ball bearing, the max rated RPM would have you going faster than 150 mph on 60mm wheels... you will never hit max rpm. In a skate application, we are spinning the bearing so slowly that the max speed isn't nearly as important as the smoothness/friction. The margin of manufacturing error is way more important than max rpms...

  • @dudunegralha
    @dudunegralha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here in Brazil, Red Bones are the most expensive bearings, after this video i searched how much costs the swiss and omg, costs my hole entire setup

  • @redneckwithajeep5001
    @redneckwithajeep5001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to use the bearings from the rollers inside coppy machines. They fit they worked but after about a week if you did any tricks or anything that caused a hard landing it was generally a good idea to change them.

  • @venndiagram8696
    @venndiagram8696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing how to put on the bearings💪🏽

  • @Helpmereachsubscriberswi-zy4jx
    @Helpmereachsubscriberswi-zy4jx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You could’ve made this so much more accurate by changing simple little things

  • @sadface
    @sadface 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:42 Microseconds are a thing! Micro just means a millionth, represented by this symbol: μ

  • @Wheresmy240
    @Wheresmy240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had some nice abec9 bearings I replaced with bones super reds and they made a huge difference. The super reds were better out the box than my broken in but not damaged abec 9 bearings.

  • @jesusc9832
    @jesusc9832 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have finally found a skateboarding channel that does what you do 🆑🅾️⛎✝️

  • @shaggy1087
    @shaggy1087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    like, in my country bones reds are actually really fucking expensive

    • @shaggy1087
      @shaggy1087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      can't even imagine how much would swiss cost

    • @steeezyjoey
      @steeezyjoey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      fcuk! here it costs almost 30 dollas for a pack.

    • @jonsnow48
      @jonsnow48 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      shaggy I'm from Australia and got Swiss for $20

    • @davidforchard5142
      @davidforchard5142 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Europe they cost 25 Euros in a skateshop and 15 over Amazon. As they are imported there are huge differences in time

    • @tomm7496
      @tomm7496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jon Snow where from??

  • @Directory1
    @Directory1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just talked about bearings and your video just popped up.

    • @daledecker
      @daledecker  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      your phone is listening

  • @BuckRocks001
    @BuckRocks001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a machinist for a few years, and the purpose for tolerance, is specifically for the accuracy of the parts moving together and the longevity of that fit, which is known as "fit to finish". Even when lubricated, metal on metal components experience wear from friction and heat, and coupled with the heat generated with that friction, they lose material which translates to the size tolerance increasing. If the components have a tolerance of +/- .006, that's the thickness of 6 sheets of paper that is allowed on either side of the exact measurement desired. If the components fail when they reach a tolerance of +/- .010, that's the thickness of 4 sheets of paper they have to wear before failing. Components with less tolerance, such as +/- .001, of course are going to maintain that tighter fit longer because they have more room to wear. Bottom line is, ABEC rating really only applies to how long the bearing set will last...the higher the ABEC, the longer they will last. Bones isnt putting the ABEC on their product because ppl dont understand the tolerance rating and make assumptions, in turn, will buy other bearings. My guess is, that for aggressive skating, ABEC 5 would last about as long as higher rated ones because of the extreme conditions tricks put on the wheels crashing down, which will cause flat spots on the bearings and blemishes in the bearing track. The ABEC rating would be far more applicable in sports like downhill longboard, where speed and heat wear are huge factors, that could cause a lower tolerance bearing to wear and lock up in the middle of an 80mph ride, ceasing up, and injuring the rider.

  • @thelifeofjp1996
    @thelifeofjp1996 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a pair of Bones Swiss that are between 9 - 10 years old that have seen everything from rain to blizzards and being left into piles of snow for weeks. they have never been cleaned , wiped. etc.. and they still spin like new!

  • @ZanDaMan_
    @ZanDaMan_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think you should have gone down 3 times for each set of bearings and found the average so it’s a bit more accurate

  • @rosscauvel8481
    @rosscauvel8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have the Bronsons and I say they're speedy.

  • @ptwob
    @ptwob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I´ve been skating SKF bearings, They´re an industrial bearing producer but they also sell SKF reds. Really great high accuracy bearings.

  • @Calgatron
    @Calgatron 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an ad of wonder, i love it

  • @TheHuskyK9
    @TheHuskyK9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Loved the original Swiss'. I had both Reds and Swiss, and from my experience, Swiss lasted longer and were faster. I had to keep pushing with Reds, but with Swiss, one push and I'm rolling for a full minute. I took care of both of them (cleaned, lubed, etc.) and Swiss was the better choice.

    • @ImSoOld2007
      @ImSoOld2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TheHuskyK9 this. Had like one set of Swiss in like 05 or 06 and liked them, but now that they’re like 60$ I’ll never buy them again. Reds were fine and are still the same price they were 15 years ago sooooo reds it is

    • @daynknight6654
      @daynknight6654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImSoOld2007 how much did they use to cost?

    • @ImSoOld2007
      @ImSoOld2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Day n Knight like 30$

    • @daffyduckling6958
      @daffyduckling6958 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@daynknight6654They were 36 bucks back in 2002.

  • @weirdchimp5901
    @weirdchimp5901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When they told me that they were $60 at zumiez, I was like, poop thats my college funds.

  • @broski9938
    @broski9938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My science-studying ass: *sees tests*
    Dude: this is good!
    Me: *whimpers in fear*

  • @GatCat
    @GatCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought Reds only. Favorite bearings.

  • @CALMBEATS
    @CALMBEATS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    should've timed each set atleast 5 times to compare an average time.

  • @ivanalvarado4085
    @ivanalvarado4085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember back in the day i would ride reds and be okay but one day a friend saved up and got some swiss and they were impossible for me to get used to

    • @posho9308
      @posho9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Por que? Entonces si son mejores los bones?

  • @masapham9711
    @masapham9711 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bones Swiss are great! I always had the assumption that since swiss and precision clock components go hand in hand, that they must make good stuff. The swiss bones on my board right now are going on roughly 18+ years now with just a little rough sound and slight rusting on the outer rim.

  • @hazadus2u
    @hazadus2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spacers increase longevity by decreasing deflection from squeezing the inner races. Running Reds loose will make them faster and last longer. No spacer gives a better sound though.

  • @zzhypee
    @zzhypee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Imagine popping those in your fidget spinner

    • @ayesp6188
      @ayesp6188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No one has used fidget spinners since 2017

    • @HeadNtheClouds
      @HeadNtheClouds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fidget spinners don’t have oil in them & the bearings in those are loose & rattle! Check out a video of someone trying to skate with fidget spinner bearings

    • @ayesp6188
      @ayesp6188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HeadNtheClouds fidget spinners do have oil in them. They are made out of polyurethane, made from oil.

    • @mdawsonh
      @mdawsonh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayesp Just save your time, his name is Hype Toy Reviews and he has a fortnite pfp

    • @zzhypee
      @zzhypee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdawsonh wow you are so down bad in the youtube comments bahahaah, my name is to piss you off lol...

  • @SamSveistrup
    @SamSveistrup 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bones Reds are 28$ in Canada now. I always just buy the cheapest bearings I can find.

    • @sinkmc3682
      @sinkmc3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In oroville cali at zumies they were like 5

    • @SeekerGoldstone
      @SeekerGoldstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sinkmc3682 As of this moment, Zumiez Canada is selling the box of 8 for $24.95 Canadian. That's $19.01 American.

  • @daft_wizard
    @daft_wizard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video! In my opinion, there is not enough difference between Reds bearings and Swiss bearings to justify the Swiss bearings. They were basically the same and not to mention, when we are skateboarding we are not really trying to break speed records so much as we are trying to ollie over fire hydrants, grind handrails and manual down hills, none of which will be affected at all by your bearings, provided you have at least semi decent bearings and not *cough* walmart bearings. Very cool video, thanks for this

  • @user-qz4bn2ui5t
    @user-qz4bn2ui5t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surely Swiss are capable of going faster though it's just without much momentum it will be hard to see a difference as both bearings are decent and properly lubricated. Get out a bungee chord or something and the Swiss would go faster or at least maintain speed for longer right?

  • @mrhockey2443
    @mrhockey2443 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Dale, I've been meaning to ask.... who is the one??

    • @mitchellman4846
      @mitchellman4846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      UnfinishedSenten under the sun the bastards sun...

    • @xxxCrepperSlayaxxx
      @xxxCrepperSlayaxxx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mitchellman will pop the glock to feed himself and family

    • @guerrero8988
      @guerrero8988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BY ANY MEANS MY ENEMIES WE WHIP THEM UP LIKE A CANTEEN

    • @Romanchickstuff
      @Romanchickstuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Yugioh7272 Gaming cmon man its we WET not whip

    • @jayderocha1153
      @jayderocha1153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yugioh7272 Gaming Its supposed to be, "by any means his enemines my enemies we wet them up like a canteen.

  • @mushlove6933
    @mushlove6933 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    honestly, ceramics are the way to go if you want to fast. ceramics accelerate faster and keep speed faster and don't rust as easily. or break as easily. so no more steel bearings!

    • @recklessrickey9513
      @recklessrickey9513 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      mushlove Accelerate faster? What the fuck is that, an engine?

    • @friedpickles909
      @friedpickles909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Reckless Rickey go to school

    • @lilalphatee3608
      @lilalphatee3608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Factsss

    • @SosaSenseCheemzZ
      @SosaSenseCheemzZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No they would wear out quicker since they are harder than the outer and inner of the bearings and the only positive is speed and it can last to up to 500 degrees which I’m sure no one would ever be skating in so your only left with the downside which is them getting wrecked quicker and u spending more money

    • @aarriikknn33ll
      @aarriikknn33ll 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SosaSenseCheemzZ yup

  • @EkaSeneth
    @EkaSeneth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to give his moment of flex at the end of the vid

  • @raysegura7444
    @raysegura7444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    REDS are cool, I used Bone Swiss for 3 years rode with them in puddles, rain, dirt they held up I cleaned them and lubed them once every few weeks loved them

  • @liamadams7322
    @liamadams7322 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There seems to be some major marketing hype going on with skate bearings. Fact is, even the most stock standard 608 bearing is waaaaaaay overkill for a skateboard. They’re designed to handle loads that no skater would ever be able to even come close to throwing at them!
    They’re designed to be used in industrial machinery and power tools etc, running in excess of 20,000rpm under massive radial loads. That’s probably why it’s better to use a thin lubricant for skating, because on a skateboard they’d never be doing enough work to get normal bearing lubricants running within the operating conditions that they start to become useful.
    There’s just no way anyone would genuinely be able to perceive a quantifiable difference in performance between a bearing from a skate company, and a stock standard NSK or the like. Especially in speed. There’s too many other factors that could effect the outcome, like how tight the nuts are, whether or not the washers are all the same size, yada, yada, yada...
    Anyway, I don’t mean to sound like a whining prick. I just think you guys are getting ripped off here!

    • @GeneralNOH
      @GeneralNOH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure.
      Install the bearings with the proper washers and spacers.
      Put an appropriate lubricant in; lighter lubes will be faster but will be expelled quicker/let dirt in compared to a heavier ones so you have to compromise on maintainence or speed.
      Put bigger wheels on.
      Even just learn to push better.
      All these things independently will make a bigger difference than upgrading from a cheap china bearing to the fanciest bones swiss you can buy.
      The better bearings typically just use better quality materials so they last longer.
      If you go to a bearing store and buy a japanese/german/swiss made stainless steel, nylon cage 608 bearing with contactless sheilds and put a good lubricant in you effectively have bones swiss for less money.

  • @theelementvevo3306
    @theelementvevo3306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have REDS they are good 👍

  • @Dekn
    @Dekn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There’s always your old 2016 fidget spinners that last 5 mins

  • @bestamerica
    @bestamerica ปีที่แล้ว

    '
    both are great ball bearrings bones and reds...
    i use another ball bearring with tamiya 1/32 mini-car wires to polewheel

  • @PJemus
    @PJemus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Try oust bearings. They are designed specifically for slalom roller blade racing, and the torsional and axial loads that are involved. They are far more durable than any 'skate rated' bearing and are designed to run as fast as possible.

    • @MatthewDDS
      @MatthewDDS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "All MOC Series bearings should be lubricated every 6 hours of use with ME-TOL Synthetic speed oil. When skating slalom, down hill racing or distance racing the bearings should be lubed every 2 hours of racing."
      That's really a deal breaker for most people. At least, it is for me. I don't want to have to take out all my bearings and lube them up before skating every day.

    • @lukaskuipers7791
      @lukaskuipers7791 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MatthewDDS you dont have to take out bearings to lube them

    • @zeropoint420
      @zeropoint420 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +MatthewDDS if you're doing slalom, then yeah I would bet it needs it. Regular skateboarding is nowhere near as wear-intensive. Might just be an idea tbh.

    • @andomare
      @andomare 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MatthewDDS nah, you don't need to lube them this often, I apply lube to bearings every 1 or 2 months, when they start making noise. Used my last bearings for 3 years, recently they started falling apart one after another. I used lube for car bearings.

    • @jamesbelkin9204
      @jamesbelkin9204 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Their website states that they're designed for all types of skateboarding. The only time you have to lube them that often is for slalom. Great bearings no doubt.

  • @TacoKat
    @TacoKat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You know what made the experiment not valid? TESTING IT BOTH ONLY ONCE

  • @abhimanyubais5199
    @abhimanyubais5199 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been riding swiss on my boards for 4 years now and running, I do spend two hours cleaning them by hand but on one of my boards they have lasted the four years flawlessly so in my opinion if you can do go for the swiss especially is more damp climates because reds do crap out a lot quickly in wetter climates. Also, i think Dale should see how far he can go on each set of bearing because his speed test didn't reveal much because he was basically measuring the rolling resistance

  • @BrandonDuffield
    @BrandonDuffield 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always been on reds, never found the need to change.

  • @landshark1191
    @landshark1191 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I bet you won't put all the oreos you've eaten on your channel in a montage

    • @daledecker
      @daledecker  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +LandShark 11 omg that's genius

    • @astronz4560
      @astronz4560 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dale Decker honestly put all beanies you have on the floor and show us. i swear every video its a fifferent beanie 😂

  • @KodyWalker
    @KodyWalker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i never believed bearings got better than reds until i got some bones swiss. they really are a much superior product.

  • @KenshinHimura-eb9bv
    @KenshinHimura-eb9bv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bones reds and oust bearings is the bearing I would like to have. I'm still a beginner I currently ride independents.
    I'm gonna switch them though, because their hissing and I don't have the products to clean them.

  • @thatsmyjam186
    @thatsmyjam186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They definitely make a difference for longboarding. Timed two of my runs and my ceramic Old Boys went about 15% faster than my Reds.

  • @DuckySOT
    @DuckySOT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve had my reds for 4 years and they are just fine

  • @sk8r4life._.81
    @sk8r4life._.81 7 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    put it in a fidget spinner and see which one spins longer

    • @patrickstar710
      @patrickstar710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sk8boardin 4 life true

    • @sk8r4life._.81
      @sk8r4life._.81 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      •_•

    • @EmptyPeace
      @EmptyPeace 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sk8boardin 4 life or we can leave fidget spinners in the garbage where they belong.

    • @NuriVFX
      @NuriVFX 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      delete dis

    • @mitchellman4846
      @mitchellman4846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jason McChesney finally a fellow "fidget" spinner hater

  • @Nasonix2
    @Nasonix2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been fortionate enough to own a set of bone 6 ball superswiss before in my lifetime. I've been skating for over 18 years. The bones super swiss 6 ball were the best bearings I've ever felt in my lifetime. They would out roll any other by a long shot. I wouldn't even need to push to the next hill that my friends had to with brand new bones reds (which were the best choice next to them at the time) lol. It felt like skating on ice, with how fast they were. So easy to shoot the board out until you get used to it lol... Probably also amazing for vert skating

  • @emmanueljames1845
    @emmanueljames1845 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rock the spitfire cheapshot bearings!!

  • @yourmother-lz8ym
    @yourmother-lz8ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly he didn’t break in the bearings already so the time wouldn’t even matter

  • @milanlubbers9160
    @milanlubbers9160 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Microseconds is a term bro..

  • @jbaquinones
    @jbaquinones 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bones and Germany bearings have been around for my generation. I started skating 25 years ago.

  • @seiner0ne
    @seiner0ne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive always used bones reds never had an issues with them and they last ages

  • @That1J1
    @That1J1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The major thing missing from this video is QUALITY. This video kills me because of that.
    I used bones reds pretty much 24/7 when I was young and they would explode, tear, break, etc. after a week of heavy use, sometimes days.
    Then, I started working at a skate shop, upgraded to a set of Bones Swiss and they are still in my short board after 14 years. Mind you, I've been through dozens of decks since then.

  • @fucmylife7353
    @fucmylife7353 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if your really struggling to get bearings. steal a kids fidget spinner

  • @noahgonzales6602
    @noahgonzales6602 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oust has some really great bearings. I live on Oahu so the humidity gets to the metal pretty fast. These bearings lasted a whole year before I stupidly skated in heavy rain.

  • @StevenBruleMD
    @StevenBruleMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This topic seems to be purely preference for people, but my 2 cents is that Bones Swiss are definitely worth it for cruisers, as I've managed to make 1 set of them last on my cruiser setup for 8 years with proper upkeep. My buddy cruised and had to swap his Reds out about every year and a half. I usually skate Reds on my street deck, but I'm trying the Swiss in that one now, to see how long the last