Persona 3 Portable Review - One Step Forward, One Step Back
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Welcome to my Persona 3 Portable Review! Persona 3 Portable is the PSP port of Persona 3 FES on the PS2. In this Persona 3 Portable Review, I'll be discussing why the game is One Step Forward and One Step Back for Persona 3 FES. This Persona 3 Portable Analysis is a follow up to my Persona 3 FES analysis and Persona 4 Analysis, so make sure you watch those videos as well. This Persona 3 Portable review will contain spoilers for both Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable.
This Persona 3 Portable Review One Step Forward, One Step Back got its name due to the game's overall quality. I'll be comparing Persona 3 Portable to Persona 3 FES multiple times in this video.
Special thanks to That Boy Aqua for help with the video: / iamaquanex
0:00 Opening
1:33 P3P Introduction & Visual Discussion
4:07 Gameplay Differences & Difficulty Discussion
8:21 FeMC Social Links
33:44 FES vs Portable
Now, how’s this for a little Deja Vu? About one year ago, I released my video on Persona 3 Fes for the PlayStation 2. A video that despite its flaws, is one that I’m ultimately still proud of. Admittedly, however, part of me always thought that my look at Persona 3 was somewhat incomplete. Which I know might sound weird to some people due to the fact that I covered both The Journey and The Answer. What exactly is there left to talk about involving Persona 3? The answer is quite simple, I still haven’t covered the PSP port that was released in 2009.
You see, Persona 3 portable is far more than just a handheld version of an existing game. There are a lot of additions and changes made from Persona 3 Fes that, at the end of the day, make this it’s own separate experience entirely. My thoughts on Persona 3 FES are basically unchanged since I released that original video. The changes that Persona 3 Portable introduces range from smaller ones such as changing how overworld exploration works to something major such as the brand new female protagonist option. - เกม
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My FES disc is pretty much permanently fucked so I'm comin for that portable ass
Oh so You also Read The Ultimate Spider-Man Comics as well
@@tomato5049 caniiii
@@tomato5049 my only wish is that wasn't the European FES
You really nailed it with the title. “One Step Forward, One Step Back” is probably the perfect way to describe P3P in my opinion. It makes a lot of good changes, but also makes a lot of less good or negligible changes, so they all cancel each other out and make an experience that isn’t noticeably better or worse than the original, it’s just... different.
@@KimiSha what about persona 1 and the persona 2 duology thrown in there with a proper definitive version for each game?
And thus, there's no definitive edition of P3 to this day, only two versions that are better than the Vanilla one.
@@drawer29 let's be honest, as much as I love love that, Atlus is never touching Persona 1 and 2 without the original developers.
@@KimiSha Not exactly against the idea, but man, that would be probably the *biggest* possible slap in the face to P1 and P2 .
@@keeysOST hate to admit it but you're right
The fact is FeMC being cheerful and optimistic is actually much concerning for me rather than being isolated. I mean, it kinda shows that they both are depressed and not really concerned by death since they have the same prologue (they acted uncaring despite everything around them transmogrified and all bloody). Rather than gathering new pieces of life puzzles like the MC did, FeMC is more rearranging the broken pieces of her life that she once had.
Also, one thing I do like about FeMC route is what it does for Ken and Koromaru, more specifically, fleshes out why they are paired together in Ultimax.
See, When Ken moved, Koromaru wanted to move with him, turned out that out of everyone in SEES, Koromaru liked Ken the most due to one key thing.
They both wanted to be seen by SEES as equals, but ultimately, even though they do get closer to that at the end of their arcs, are still seen as a child and a literal dog, but they saw each other as equals due to their past and what goals they shared.
This is Theodore erasure
Exactly. We cant let this happen
Only room for one dog in this video.
PLEASEEE the only reason I picked up p3p instead of p3 fes first was because of theodore
Elizabeth is better though.
@@sundowner4076 Nah, Theodore superior.
Kotone being more positive and optimistic is because she's faking. Makoto handles his depression by being isolated. Kotone fakes being happy to hide her depression. Naturally this changes as she starts to overcome it as she gets friends but that's why she's the way she is.
Also, I think a big difference to why most people are okay with Chidori being alive as compared to Shinjiro is basically what you said. Shinjiro affects the entire cast, whereas Chidori really only affects Junpei. Shinjiro surviving completely alters how everyone grows. Chidori, regardless of surviving or dying, inspires Junpei to continue staying strong in the end.
Yes...
Minako pretend to be positive and optimistic but she's not! >.>
She still upset with her parents deaths!😌
I will probably do that! >.>
Anyway! I like the way you think!😌 So smart!
Imagine if they remake The Answer and for the Fem side of The Answer you get to play as Shinjiro instead of Aigis.
@@ignaciojohnjoy
Ahhh... I don't think so....
@@0MujaKina0 What if i told you that they'll retcon the FES Answer and make it non-canon because Junpei is referencing Chidori in P4Ultimax which means she's still alive. (FES says Chidori is dead) and now that you think about it, it gives purpose to them being alive. Chidori being alive means The Answer can be retconned and Shinjiro being alive for a potential better story or character development for him.
Edit: It's ReTcon. Sorry my bad
*clears throat*
Hey man, I don't know what you're talking about with the Maiko s. link
. I mean, its not like atlus would let you do anything weird with a grade schooler while you yourself are playing as a high school kid. Anyway, I'm gonna go play Femc in P3P, I'm almost finished with Ken's social link, I wonder where it will go?
Yeah, about that...
This fucking meme will never die, huh?
And yet Atlus still wont let you date guys as a guy ...
@@CereDulce37 kinda dumb
@@CereDulce37 that’s extra writing that only appeals to a very small number of people that will buy it regardless if that gets added or not, or not but it even if it gets added because there are people who beg for things like that even in games they won’t play. It’s a bit unfortunate sure, but it likely won’t happen for a long time if at all.
Shinjiro's arc in FeMC's route is pure pain.
He finally starts to open up to someone, ends up nearly dying and falling into a coma, wakes up months later just in time to have a final moment with her before she dies.
But the femc lives I'm pretty sure, unlike the male character
@@Chesozz Great Seal still costs all of your health, so doubt it.
@@thatoneguy5343 Enduring Soul
@@sapphicjade6375 You can have a persona with Enduring Soul equipped before facing the real Nyx and it’ll do nothing. Great Seal transcends persona skills both in power and consequence.
@@Chesozz Girl really said "Nah I'd Live"
I acknowledge that P3P has tonal dissonance. However, I think the thing to understand here is that the main theme of the game changed. The main theme shifts from death as an inevitability to the idea of change, or more specifically, the butterfly effect. Even if two people go towards the same goal their journeys will be different, the same destination with different journeys. So although both protagonists will inevitably reach the same ending, the differences along the way are what matter. This is why having Shinjiro's watch matters. Yes, he will one day die, that's inevitable, but his death doesn't need to be October 4th. The who, what, where, when, why, and how how of a death can all be changed by circumstance, and the circumstances will change based off the experiences a person has. In the male route the circumstances don't align in a way to help Shinjiro. In the female route, the leader of SEES spends time with him, and gets to know him, he makes a comment about his watch during one of these times he is with SEES leader, and that person does a minor good deed to return the watch, this saves him through a domino effect. Even if two people start and end at the same place, what they do in between those two points can change everything, that is what the theme of the game is to me. Death will be inevitable, this will always be true, but before you die you can change the world, and your changes to the world can effect everything. That's what Persona 3 portable means, at least to me.
Agreed
well put!
Very well put. I really appreciate your input.
That's beautiful
I'm glad that you decided to give FeMC a fair critique, rather than writing her off as "ruining P3". As you said, it's an alternative experience.
Especially since, to me, FeMC is the most maligned protagonist for Persona. It feels you'd see more hearsay on the internet about her, than what the game actually provides.
Too many people seem to focus on how she can change the fate of a certain character, and that supposedly ruins the game's story.
Personally, she's my favorite Persona protagonist. She's the only one, outside of Persona 2's protagonists, who actually feels like a character. Really wish more Persona games had the option to play as a female protagonist, some Social Links feel really weird when playing a character of the opposite gender.
@@CrystalTikal Same! She has so much more of a personality than the other protagonists, and as a woman, it's a lot easier for me to put myself in her shoes when it comes to social links.
@@CrystalTikal I kinda disagree there. P3MC’s definitely his own character despite being somewhat of self insert is definitely his own character. Through how acts and how most of his friends describe him, you can peace together that he’s an emo, with how often the game can make you choose the path of indifference towards most dialogue options, and the Q games translate that perfectly with how bored or uninterested he naturally seems.
Narukami and Joker are the same as well.
@@sundowner4076 ehhhhhhhhh narukami and joker are a bit stand in
@@sundowner4076 also I’m not sure I want a character for joker considering all the nasty stuff he can do which would make him gross
Shinji's watch clearly had Absorb Pierce in it.
I find that being able to save a character that is normally meant to die can actually be a satisfying feeling in its own right.
Yes but not when it fundamentally goes against the games themes
@@CBman11037 Who needs the game's themes when you've got fan-service? 👀
@@CBman11037 I would argue it enhances the themes of the game. P4 would do more with the idea of making bonds with the time you have. but a big reason p3s messaging around death hits so hard is that you just spent 60 hours forming those bonds. By creating a path for Shinji to live you double down on this theme, and the game then argues that the only thing that can beat death is your bonds. and that is exactly how the game ends, with your bonds helping you achieve the feat thought imposable, to beat death. the theme of the game would be more accurate described as "You will die, but you will be survived by your bonds"
I played FES first and Portable second and I completely agree that doing that is the better way to experience this game. The themes of death and depression are done insanely well in the original game and I do think it's better to experience the story that way. But I also absolutely adore the FemC route. As someone who copes with depression by using false cheeriness, I related to the female protagonist a lot more. I also absolutely love her social links and I feel like Shinji's was needed. Even though it feels like a cop out, the idea of him waking up only to realize that his loved one (or dear friend) passed away while also knowing he's going to die soon due to the drugs he took is a very interestingly morbid idea. But damn I love your videos. Keep up the good work. Thanks for putting in so much time and hard work with these.
Not just Shinji, who is much better than Makoto’s Moon link. I think she has the better Magician, Chariot, and Hermit links (her Hermit link is one of my personal favorites in all of Persona).
@@Mojo1356 Right?!?! I agree. Her hermit link is phenomenal. There are a lot of forgettable social links in persona games but that is definitely not one of them
@@happylilguy1827 I love a lot of social links in Persona, but Makoto had a lot of duds in 3 (while FeMC has the best Moon social link, Makoto has the worst moon social link by far, and he’s also one of my least favorite links in all of Persona)
@@Mojo1356 true. I went out of my way to try to finish his social link and it was so disappointing. I guess if anything, his lack of change is pretty human but also pretty underwhelming. And I missed out on some really good links the first time because of that:/
@@happylilguy1827 also, while I prefer to play Portable for multiple reasons (between being able to control multiple party members, FeMC and her social links, no more forced harem, and no stupid jealousy system, I find Portable to generally be a more comfortable experience), I can understand why one would say it’s better to play FES first. It makes it all the easier to appreciate the large number of quality of life updates.
Sometimes I just choose to pretend Ken's latter half of his Social Link doesn't exist because then I have to deal with the fact an entire group of people looked at that and went "yeah no that's okay put it in"
Shame too, I actually really like Ken's character
The first half actually made me care for Ken a lot. Thankfully, the pedophelia route is optional with Ken unlike romancing in all console versions of 3.
Optional... but there.
And it’s not like Atlus is doing any better in the present day, with Persona 5 providing FIVE entire overaged romance options.
@@emarceeqem4715 5?!?! I can see where people come from for Futaba even though I don’t really agree, but who the hell are the other 4?!??
Edit: oh- By overaged you mean adults. Well, there’s the fortune teller, the reporter, the doctor, you own teacher (the only monumentally major red flag of the group, though not as big as Ken)... whose the 5th one?
@@Mojo1356 I miscounted. But was close. Also saying Kawakami is the only red flag is basically like saying "Well *this* pedophile is bad, but these other three pedophiles are okay." Um... no?!
@@emarceeqem4715 I said major red flag- not only red flag. While dating the other 3 adults is wrong, the bad ethnicity from that can’t compare to dating your own teacher or going pedophile (the latter 2 are at least 10 times more of a red flag than the former 3)
What type of Indiana Jones luck to keep the watch in the exact place to absorb the bullet
_Laughs in Kira Yoshikage_
_Luck has sided with Shinjiro_
Shinji's survival isn't _just_ due to the watch, but also due to the power that a rank 10 social link has to overturn fate.
Exactly, Jesus is the ultimate Persona for a reason
I mean even if you save him he will die because of the pills
The most epic thing in P3 is when mitsuru doesn't use marin karin
I just started the video at the time of making this comment, but I just wanna say that I bought P3P SOLELY because I can control my party members. When it comes to turn-based RPG games, I prefer to be in as much control of my team as possible.
I am so used to calling her Minako, that it is weird hearing her be called anything else. This is actually the very first time I have ever heard her called Kotone. I guess I will have to get used to it.
16:47 The Chad Junpei vs the Virgin Teach Simp
I liked kenji
You're pretty much grooming Ken by the end of his social link lmao
I didn't even know that was possible in this game and I have it... Ken is literally like 10-12 during this game's timeline 'cuz he's 13 canonically in Persona 4 Arena. What. The. F-ck. Atlus.
So, can we agreed that Kotone is cancelled and she isn't canon?
Personally, I see it as just Minako/Kotone spending time with him and Ken just develops something of an innocent crush on her while she sees him as more of a younger brother.
@@DezuFuck no cause that would be too harsh to the 2nd female protagonist.
Just ignore the weird part of he’s social link and he’s still a fine character.
@@DezuFuck Romance is optional for FeMC. So it's the players choice to groom him
Always a pleasure watching these videos
I also loved Saori's SL route, and I think it was one of the first I finished. I never ended up playing the male protagonist's route but I agree that no experience is better then the other. Although, femc's optimism (whether in fear of death or way of expressing her issues) is a breath of fresh air throughout the story and personally never felt too out of place
I wonder if they wanted to have another proper go of making “Maya” as a protag as a regret how they did in P2.
That might be why she clashes with P3’s theme with that as a focus to soften the blow.
So basically ryoji has 2 social links now
Yeah, kinda stupid but whatcha gonna do?
It's him.
Damn it
omg king
And despite that, he's still written better on the p3 movies
Another incredibly well done video. That last line really got to me: Persona 3 has many flaws but the things it does right feel amazing to me. I personally would pick up Portable as well since I really enjoy the replayability of this version, but some of the features make me wish I was playing FES instead haha. One thing I wish you had talked about was Theo. He isn't a social link or really all the major but he is so different from Elizabeth personality wise and is exclusive to Kotone I figured it would have been worth talking about. Either way, I'm looking forward to more of your future videos.
Agreed, he is in the middle of being an unknown character and a well known one. For those not fortunate enough to play P3P and just jumped over to PQ1 & 2, they'll start scratching their heads thinking Theo is an OC on that game. But lore wise, i think theo is canon, but Kotone is Semi-Canon
@@ignaciojohnjoy Oh Theo is definitely canon! He makes an appearance in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax. He is one of my favorite Velvet Attendants. Margaret sends him on a quest for some cola or something.
@@Tralissel oh yeah, i forgot about that, hahaha, but honestly like i mentioned can't blame people for not knowing him. In some parts he is better than Elizabeth, he's a gentleman, but there's just a wierd charm to Elizabeth being weird.
@@ignaciojohnjoy Yeah, he still doesn't have a major role in any game so far and some people probably don't think of him as canon. Theo and Elizabeth are my favorite attendants, they have the most interesting personalities to me.
@@Tralissel Same here, we only know Margaret as the eldest sibling and our interactions with her are just her compliments on the Emperess Arcana in P4 and Lavenza for me is just setting up Ken Romance vibes for me.
I have finished p3p last month and i will say that i enjoyed it immensely, my only complaint was the lack of cutscenes but above all, it's my favorite persona game so far
About Junpei rejection for Kotone, i feel that is more like "give me more time to sort my feeling" after the Chidori died and perpare for the battle with Nyx. He will give her the answer when he ready
I keep forgetting how different the ps2 and psp versions are.
@MCspanky Panky the main difference is definitely some the gameplay changes like controlling a circle instead of the character avatar when you move around places besides Tartarus.
@MCspanky Panky Being able to control everybody instead of leaving them to control themselves is definitely a giant change.
@@yurikuki Everything's in a dating sim style in the psp persona too, don't forget that.
@@alleosussquirt8041 there’s also the fact that the stupid jealousy system and forced harem shit are completely gone in Portable, which makes completing social links in Portable a monumentally more comfortable experience.
The biggest issue I have with Portable is the missing anime cutscenes. The visual novel aspects I don't mind too much because P3P was the way that I first experienced Persona 3, so I don't mind it too much, but after playing FES the lack of FMVs just makes the game feel empty.
plus I think that having 3D models and environments with the visual novel aspects of this game just adds to it and doesn't take anything away makes a lot of scenes have a bigger impact also let's admit the Animated scenes do a lot as well.
I'm ok with shinji surviving in the FeMC timeline, because the social link made me fall in love with him. I understand why you don't like it tho.
Minako's happy demeanour is very put on, in comparison to Minato not making any effort to hide his depression, she hides it behind her smile.
That's deep.
I love P3P, and the lack of cutscenes rarely ever effected my enjoyment, with one big exception. The final scene where SEES remember the protagonist really suffers in P3P, so much so, that I'd recommend using a guide to tell when to watch the scene online.
I like Akihiko's romance route, he went from oblivious to sweet to NSFW if you visit his room.
I agree and disagree with a lot of the points made in the video.
Kens social link went really weird and yeah he is the one developing a crush and nothing really happens with him but I would have preferred for it to be just friendship just like Junpei.
Now as for Shinji, nope I will never agree that his death is NECCESSARY for the plot. Both Aki and definitely Ken already change a lot during the scene with Takaya even before Shinji gets shot. The shock alone s enough to completely alter Kens perspective on Shinji and Aki still loses his best friend to a coma state. But apparently that not tragic enough for the people here who never had a close family member be in such a state.
Now another thing no one really ever mentions but is understood in japanese culture is that watches as gifts or presents have a certain significants in japanese society. Normally you don't give someone a watch because in their culture it stands for 'the time running out' and therefore they are a rather unusual thing to give to someone. It is the reason Shinji was so surprised about the FeMC finding his watch and why it was so significant that he actually gifted her a clock back.
They both gifted each other a symbol of death but as it turns out it is that item is what saves Shinjis life. Now why do I say that is important? Because it basically says instead of their time running out they actually gifted each other some more time. Shinji in preventing his death and the FeMC probably a longer life too, because if you pay close attention to how the ending of OG P3 is read and how P3Ps ending sounds, the FeMC route seems to have a lack of 'you are feeling tired'... 'Your body feels tired' which very much exists in the male route of FES. Now I never played the male route on P3P but it could be that due to them sharing their lifetimes they increased each others lifespan. Of course that is just my personal theory, but it holds true from what I know of japanese culture.
If you think thats cheesy or defeats the games message, fair, but I think the FeMCs route isn't about giving up but about giving life and instead giving light to those around you while you still have the chance. And if I play P3P I will do exactly that.
I rest my case.
Plus the way Shinji died in the first place was ludicrous. He was still alive for a little while after the gunshot, so he definitely could have been healed by one the SEES members. They ignore this for some reason and when he dies, it just loses some of its impact as they could have easily saved him. But now, Shinji lives something that has no chance of killing, and is in a coma that can’t simply be healed. It’s quite a bit better than the original route
As someone that has played P3 FES 3 times and P3P two times, I would definitely say this version is worth it.
There's a lot of QOL changes that make this less stressful, as well as additional scenes and social links exclusive to the female protagonist.
Has some flaws, especially the downgrade of cut scenes from FES.
If you can't get a hold of the FES version, this is still a good version of the game to play, not to mention you can easily emulate it on your phone.
This game and FES is why we all want P3 remake/Def edition
I feel that if you want to fully experience P3 it’s better to play through FES as the Male MC, then play through Portable as FEMC. It’s a shame P3 never got a definitive version like P4 and P5 did.
And the chances of it getting one is extremely low sadly.
Ohohoho 2 years later persona 3 reload
@@Reversemotion20 no femc
I think Minako (it's just what I end up called Kotone/FeMC)'s way of dealing with her depression is completely fine, it's just another way one deals with it.
If Persona 3 is to ever be re-released, I do hope that it's using Portable's foundation. Though maybe also add more animated cutscenes for her and the like.
Re-re-released
Persona 3: Fesload Portable
I recently finished it
I played the female route and now im doing new game plus male route
I couldnt put it down
These videos seriously rock. They’re so detailed and interesting, can’t wait to watch this :)
I must admit Saori's social link is the most realistic i have ever seen especially at the part where the teachers got involved.
On Shinji social link (+revive):Awww
Ken social link:Yikes
Great video as always! I'm wondering, are you interested in covering the spin offs? (Arena , Dancing, Q, and Strikers when it releases) I know these are way different gameplay wise and are a mixed bag but it would be cool to see your opinions on them!
Yep! I’ve already planned out how I want to tackle the spin-off games on this channel. Not every game is going to get its own individual video, but I will be covering them
@@NamsCompendium yea I do see how you would group p4a and p4au as well as pq and pq2
@@NamsCompendium but will you give the fighting game a fighting chance? And not just simply speedrun the story and cut n run?
Heads up. You don't need to buy p4a. Its entire story mode can be purchased as a dlc ad on for p4U. No need to waste money on vanilla just to check out a story mode.
Love these videos, man. Specially as a fan who recently got into Persona. These are the videos I've been looking for. Binged all your Persona videos in the last week 😁
They really need to make a version that includes everything from FES AND Portable..
I want to play Persona 3 but I feel like no matter which version I play, I miss out on essential things..
Now we have a definitive video about P3P here on yt
Thanks once again for making this video Nam
Always glad to see nam pop up in my sub box keep up the great work man
I was waiting for this video and boy it didn't disappoint me, keep up the good work
“Thankfully I’m not alone in thinking it’s wrong for Kotone to be in a romance with Ken.”
Simply dad liked that!
Im sorry, i dont mean to offend but did your dad shipped Kotone and Ken?
@@ignaciojohnjoy oh that’s a nice one
I'd say the tone for FeMC being cheery to contrast the Male protag's tone is mostly for the perspective, while some can be quite and depressed about death, some have already accepted it, and are happy in life. But that doesn't mean they aren't done, the Journey for the female protag, to me, feels like she's accepted her mortality and is therefore more outgoing towards others, helping them with their struggles, already willing to die on a moment's notice for them because she already embraced death, the male character instead tries to find the meaning to life, hence why The Journey is called that, he's going through existentialism and keeps himself reserved, while the female isn't like that, she just seems to be already over it, like a fool at the end of her journey (like the numbers on her hair pins)
Also Makoto's route tones in game may be dark and gloomy, and Minako's route tones in game are more cheery and outgoing, they're both in the end dead, but one just accepts it sooner than the other, that's my take on why she's more cheerful and outgoing.
(because men can be cheery and women can be gloomy too)
Fun fact for those who don't know:
P3P allows you to choose who you meet on the rooftop as Minato. It's not locked to Aigis.
If you're like me, and chose Yukari as the favored love interest, having her be there ads another layer to her freakout in The Answer.
Dude I checked out Aqua's channel thinking he was a small channel barely scraping by. He has almost 60k subs and his vids are lit. What the heck.
I see u everywhere if its smt even buff's stream
I've been waiting for this
New Nam video? Let's go boys
Woah I looked up for a video on this didn't expect there to be one from yesterday
Being in a coma is a interesting take because him in a coma is basically him being dead most people are considered dead in a coma
"Akihiko acts as if his growth and realization was due to the social link rather than the actual story" (paraphrased)
This highlights my semi-disappointment with the party member's story arcs in 4 & 5 tbh... In these two games since having social links for every party member has become the norm, it feels like too much primary character development gets crammed into them rather than being supplementary like they are in P3. But since they're optional content this development never bleeds into the main story which is a little disappointing. Narratively I love how each main character had a full arc within the main story of 3, culminating in the awakening of their ultimate persona as those arcs came to a head. That this development is optional (as showcased by the ultimate personas being locked behind rank 10 social links rather than plot progression), it feels like each character in the Investigation Team and the Phantom Thieves have a mini arc during their focus dungeon then just kinda stagnate afterwards for the most part while the interesting developments are hidden away .
babe wake up
new Nam's vid
i love these videos bro i hope you make more when you have the time to
The interesting thing for me was that a friend and I were both playing it around the same time and I was playing the female mc and he was playing the male. By the time we beat the game it’d get brought up occasionally and sometimes one of us would reference something and the other wouldn’t have any idea what we were talking about. It didn’t happen super often but it was nice they bothered to make those little changes as frequently as they did.
I'm glad you took a little time to bring up the music of the game it's very enjoyable!
I did miss hearing your opinion on Theo. Personally I think he's an interesting foil to Elizabeth in a way that I wasn't expecting. I don't know the difference with Elizabeth directly as Femc since I didn't choose to go with her, but it's just interesting to see how differently the two protags interact with their attendants.
0:22 Idk man, Ive heard The Answer is quite difficult.
It's only difficult by how much they managed to screw up how progression worked
They took a game that had like 6-7h worth of content and tried to add a bunch of padding to make it hit that 10h mark without even varying how you explore dungeons since most of the layouts repeat multiple times
@@icedcapplord710 20*
It's stupid.
Problem 1. Long ass dungeons and zero down time. Not fun.
Problem 2. No compendium, so you're forced to work with whatever you find and kinda play fast and loose.
Problem 3. Fake difficulty, early on you'll fight enemies weak to ice despite mitsuru not being available and most persons at the time won't give u bufu. No weakness having big health baring fuckers with, no joke, instakill moves. Bosses with no weakness. Enemies who start to have null or reflect physical or magical, have massive health bars and will have "evade" skills for their weakness.
You'll start to fight enemies that operate on super boss logic if you cast magic mirror they'll infinitely cast megidoloan. Exp gain is still a drip feed like normal p3. No new game plus so you could revisit for fun but fully decked out, stat boosters are rarer to get your hands on so you won't be able to beef up a persona to a reasonable degree. You'll become reliant on humuculus to avoid a "lol random hama". The final set of bosses are cool but getting to them is dog shit and I had party control+free persona switching. So if I think it was just sucky, Yknow I mean it
@@PrincessNine and this is why I don’t think The Answer is a plus for FES. Gameplay is so bad that it’s just not worth going through it.
Your videos are literally the best thing ever created. Ly
Never thought I'd say this, but thank you TH-cam algorithm.
Literally the video I needed thanks a lot man
Kotone? Oh you mean Minako. I love FEMC route so much, glad you did a review on it
Excellent video m8
YESSS ANOTHER BANGER
I completely agree with you in regards to Saori's social link the degree of which it goes from bad to worse in terms of the amount of stuff she goes through is... just astonishing. But it also reinforces the idea that Kotone has a profound impact on her and that's on reccurring element with her character throughout the entire game IMO.
I like being able to save Shinji. I didnt knew he was going to die, so I ended up using him a lot. And liking his playstyle.
I recently bought a ps Vita and I’m planning on buying p4 Golden and p3 portable before the store closes . I loved persona 5 looking forward to playing 3
I think Saori's Social Link is also underappreciated because she's a fairly down to earth SL that replaces the previous Hermit, which was the fan favorite wacky Maya. I was disappointed when I found out the female protagonist wouldn't have Maya, and that just reduces Ms. Toriumi's role in the game by that much.
I looked up this video just to hear about Saori. Love that social link.
The cheerful personality that Kotone has, I always took as a coping device for depression. "Fake til you make" if you will. I for the longest time did this. You would never think I was depressed. Even alone, I refused to let go of the perky mask. So I related to the happiness the character showed. You'll pry never read this, but I wanted to give you a different perspective of why her personality seemed so happy when Makoto seems so depressed. They are both versions of depression.
Stop projecting onto fictional characters
I appreciate the comparison
Junpei also gets added development in the main story too when in the female route, because there's an added level of sexism/toxic masculinity where he can't accept that he was passed over as leader in favor of a girl. He makes constant remarks like "but she's a girl!" and "even though I'm the only guy here", but eventually comes to terms with it and apologizes for being a prick.
Jealousy in the male route is removed in P3P
you can still reverse links (it's just harder to do).
@@xbolt678 yeah
Guys argue over Kotone
@@ignaciojohnjoy Kotone/Minako are cool. Best protag
Thought you meant Junpei’s jealousy lol. He gets even more jealous of Kotone being the leader than Makoto
FINALLY DUDE, HOW LONG DID I WAIT. AUTO LIKE
Edit: I commented before watching the vid but i laughed my ass of on your reaction to the Ken Relationship Route
The Tiredness mechanic being changed is my biggest irk. at least for me. It makes me want to use the same party members over and over while before I would rotate between party members that weren't tired
Saori’s route reminds me of this one Japanese movie where the girl was also a punching bag and the world stepped on her because of it. I hated it, it was pure misery porn.
What movie was that???
@@acedetective9542 I believe it was called Memories of Matsuko.
I don't believe i missed this one. Anyways thanks for the video Nam
*The end of the trilogy.*
Hey there what's up
Holy fuck, it has been a year. Time flies by.
to be fair, even if Chidori revival being canon, it wouldn't be that bad. sure you can say "but it would ruined that moments and wouldn't fits the game theme" which i completely agree wholeheartedly, but for me seeing Chidori revival is like some hopeful moments in the dire setting of persona 3. like sure we are going to die someday so live your life to the fullest, but it wouldn't be wrong to hope for some miracle to happen. besides from my limited knowledge and view on literature, i do think that Chidori was written to interact with Junpei specifically AND her death doesn't exactly affect the plot nor the whole cast so i don't think it is as bad as Shinji not dead.
Saving shinjo is optional tho. You don't have HAVE to give him back the watch to max his social link before he passes
I honestly disagree in the opinion with Shinji's changes, does it lessen resolution of Akihiko and Ken's stories? Yes, definitely, no arguing there, but at same time I think it's perfectly fine in context of P3P itself, P3P for all intents is an expansion of the original story that is meant to bring new content, I highly doubt people will start with it, and as it is meant to be a spinof with new content, changes like that are fine imo, of course everyone has different opinions, and as I said, there is no question the change lessens certain aspects of other characters, but hey, it is not main line game in first place so I don't mind that
Not to mention Shinji and FemC social link as a whole and their relationship imo is really amazing writing, him surviving that fatal wound because of actions you directly take as FemC (That are honestly easily missed if you don't know what you are doing/don't pay proper attention to certain things) feels really good, and at same time it feels bittersweet because once again, he will die soon no matter what, but this way they have one more chance to meet and that's great payback, I adore Aigis and her social link, and I really like her relationship with Minato in FES, but in a sense I like what Shinji and FemC get even more
It's honestly difficult question, some will like it, some will hate it, you can't always please everyone, what some will see as good change/option, others will see as bad, and that's what makes gaming interesting honestly
Im surprised you didnt bring up the addition of Merciless difficulty and the new Vision Quest bosses.
I actually prefer FES’s combat, for me, predicting your party’s actions was just part of the fun; the AI generally won’t behave optimal, but they are quite predictable. The thing that got me to enjoy it was realizing that I can actually check turn order (missed that for half of my first play through).
It’s also the only game where I like being able to instantly switch personas, the trade off was less control over your party, but the MC has a party worth of skills to choose from.
Honestly, it’s because it’s a crapshoot that I don’t like it, I’ve gotten game overs a few times because some characters like Mitsuru have such incompetent AI.
Have you ever played the Dragon Quest games? They have similarly vaguely-described commands, but they're a bit more complicated and work so well I leave them on during bossfights, sometimes. They can recognize enemy vulnerabilities (such as those for ailments--no Marin Karin nonsense, or using instant death only against enemies that you wouldn't easily be able to kill in one round) or change what action they'll perform if they know they'll roll a critical that turn. I feel that there's potential for a battle system like the original Persona 3, but it would require a new way of thinking.
I foresee many people coming to this video in the near future
Wow this the first time I’m hearing about that Ken social link actually
Minus the animated cutscenes, p3p has a quick to download mod (albeit a little confusing) to enhance the texture make everything much nicer, portraits are on par to p4 and the rest is way less pixelated.
Play fes as your first but portable for a 2nd play through
You know, after watching this video, I can see why Atlus decided to make a port of P3P instead of FES. Sure there's no animations still during cut scenes, but being able to control your party members, the differences between the male and female routes, ALL of the music, and so much more makes this game. at least in my eyes, a pretty "Definitive" version of P3 as a whole.
Props for you for using their canon names
P3 needs and deserves a remake so bad
Yes, If it can get some gameplay improvements from P4 and 5, then that coupled with the story would probably be the best Persona game ever.
@@keeysOST I see you Alot
If they add a fast forward button, and all of the quality of life changes that were implemented in P5, then it might be contender for my favorite Persona game
@@DezuFuck I've been getting that a lot recently lol
How about.....a patch instead o-o
Alright! Time for a ranking of the spinoff games!
l just love how l can play it on my phone, playing as a very exciting schoolgirl and a very interesting story! Unforgettable experience!
I think it's unfair to ignore the watches symbolism in the context of Shinjis social link. The whole situation is supposed to represent how time is limited. The watch itself represents the time we have left to live. The watch getting destroyed represents how our time on earth is subject to change by random factors we can not control. The lesson here is that we should enjoy the time we spend together because any moment could be your last time with them.
I sure hope I get a chance to play this some day...
There's a really good psp emulator por computers and mobile, its called ppsspp, and its free
I suggest playing this on your phone, it's a blast
My first playthrough of P3 was on the Femc route, because I couldn’t stand not having social links with half of the party members. I played the male protagonist route afterwards, and yeah I agree, Minato fits the themes much better than Kotone, but I don’t think she ruins the story. Playing as one protagonist or the other won’t affect the essence of the story in my opinion, which is the way death is perceived by humans
i already played the game but thanks to u i want to play again