The Astros Just Became Baseball's BIGGEST DYNASTY
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- The Astros Just Became Baseball's BIGGEST Dynasty.
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What do you think? Also, it's Bryan Abreu, not Jose Abreu. My mistake!
Great Astros don’t bother me
The astros may have cheated but I was in 4th grade im a freshman now i woulda been 10 it didn’t affect me then so I doesn’t affect me now
You have the WORST takes ever! How are they a dynasty, they cheated for one WS, this is their first real WS they even win. The Dodgers are more of a Dynasty than the astros
@@josephlira9841 cope
@@josephlira9841 The Dodgers were division exits in 2019 and 2022... What a dynasty!!!
As a Mariners fan, even though we got swept, I'm still glad we gave 'em more of a fight than the Yanks. Congrats Astros!
Mariners and Phillies were far and away the two toughest teams the astros faced. Seattle was really good at the end of the year they just ran into a slightly more complete team with more postseason experience.
Mariners gave me more mini heart attacks than Yankees ever did
thanks for thinking of the Yanks when talking about the Astros. Sweet!
Definitely did. That 18 inning game was a nail biter.
Mariners were highkey the Astros toughest opponent in playoffs. Phillies may have won 2 games, but that was more Astros choking then Phillies winning and there was never a doubt the Astros were not only winning, but dominating that whole series. Mariners tho put up a fight, and even tho they got swept, they made the Astros work far harder for the wins than the Phillies did
Astros cheated, but were also scapegoated by the rest of the league who was also cheating. It is what it is. We champs again, so I don’t really gaf
Yes I was thinking the same thing. The whole mlb does it. Astros was just put on blast because they are not the Yankees or Red Sox.
Finally a smart take!
Thanks for making a great video, in-depth and informative, too bad all the haters are blind and deaf when it comes to the facts. I love it that we won 22’ but I promise you one thing is that we will only get better and the haters will hate us even more than before. Go Stros 🤘🏽
Although not an Astros fan, I was in awe of what they were building from 2015 and onward. Anyone with a bit of baseball sense could see they were headed for good things by building the team from the ground up with talent, in-depth knowledge and science. Having said that, the illegal signstealing scandal shows that the players themselves were apparently not convinced they would be good enough. So, if anything, do not blame the people that called them out, blame the ones that needlessly participated in it.
And surely, other teams may have been cheating as well, but that is no justification. Furthermore, the 2022 title should not be seen as a vindication for 2017, but as a lesson of how trust is not easily earned yet so easily lost.
Last but not least, I do consider the Astros the best team in baseball right now and congratulate the club and it's fanbase with the well deserved 2022 World Series win !!!
Astros bullpen are good as well as their batting line up.
Growing up and watching them everyday when the Astros weren't that good, the past 5 or 6 years are just insane to think about. I never could have imagined how good they'd become.
real
OMG YES! Growing up in the 80s and 90s, the Astros were horrible. There was no chance to make the postseason with the Cardinals and Braves dominating year over year.
It's been a tough few decades. The decision to tear it down and rebuild was definitely worth a few extra years of pain. Cheers!
from paying $20-$30 a piece for front row seats now we gotta give up a kidney and a lung to get in
@@mrgiggly21 I used to go all the time and get the cheap nose bleed seats for a couple of bucks and just walk around the stadium. Now it's more of luxury to go once maybe twice a year.
That no hitter in this world series is a kind of cherry on top.
Agreed! And McCormick's catch at the fence was the sprinkles on top, seeing as he grew up near Philly and was a big Phillies fan as a kid.
Only the second in history, then Yordon Alvarez's home run became the second longest in WS history. The Astros are absolutely sublime.
Just stop for one second and think…what more would’ve been done if we had our best all around hitter, MICHAEL BRANTLEY 🤯🤯🤯
... more than winning the world series?
Michael Brantley, the last pure contact hitter :(
Hopefully banning the shift will somehow encourage the lost skill to make a comeback. I just want to see someone batting .300 with .400 OBP and almost no home runs again. Its entertaining to watch their approach
@@austintaylor3432 maybe an undefeated postseason? 😂
Forgot about Brantley. Better production than their dh's in postseason since Alvarez played left
If Brantley played then Alvarez would DH but he might not be as effective at the plate if he had to sit on the bench most of the game.
I am so happy for dusty baker. He finally won after being known for blowing it in the playoffs and the world series. Good job man. Plus he was a former Atlanta Brave. I gotta represent
That’s about there is to be happy about 😂😂😂😂 it’s the astros
@@RX7MAN27 I wasn't so much pullin for the Astros as much I was pickin against the phillies. I do not like the phillies. Dusty Baker being a former Atlanta Brave was just my way of justifying rooting for the Astros to myself
@@Taydutt13 😂 I hear ya my 2nd baseball game as kid was at a Philly home game so I kinda got some weird respect or love 🤮lol I guess 😂
The Astros I doubt were ever cheating any more than your team cheated. But yeah, just ignore all the players saying sign-stealing was a league-wide issue.
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo ever since baseball was started people have been trying to cheat at it. I'm not some baseball purist I just enjoy watchin good baseball being played
I’m a Phillies fan but I must say the middle and bottom of the rotation really impressed me for Houston. They really stepped up.
Thanks! you guys have a great team, we'll meet again ; )
the bottom of the rotation are all number 2 or 3 starters in almost every other organization. Javier is number 4 yet number 2 anywhere else. Garcia and Urquidy would be great third starters in most places. It's not quite regular season Dodgers rotation, but the astros rotation is second, and the two organizations both easily blow away any other rotation in the league.
It was a thrilling series and y'all have a great team as well. The only thing I question is Brandon Marsh's coif.
All love for Philly fans and players. We really needed this one y’all but we’re not saying sorry!! Thank you for giving me anxiety.. Kyle..
@@TheIcecreamtaco Javier might be a 1 on a lot of teams. Likely soon for the Stros (he and Framber will battle).
As an astros fan i gotta love this in depth look at their postseason run
I couldn't have been happier to be a fan
A bunch of cheating scum
We finally won our first legitimate World Series!!’ Letssss gooooo baby🎉
@@SupremeNKickz hahahah na
@@SupremeNKickz I think the 2017 Astros championship is more legitimate than the 2020 Dodger's mickey mouse championship season. Also lots of WS winning teams had some dirt (like half the 2009 Yankees were juicing) and sign stealing has always been part of the game.
@@ericdouglas7039 hmm for 2020 everyone had the same number of games and no fans. So that argument is void. I’d say 2020 is more legitimate than 2017
why does no one ever talk about the Red Sox cheating the same way in 2018?
Easy, they wanted Astros to be the scapegoats. Why else do you think MLB and Yankees fought hard to not release the letter MLB sent to the Yankes where they found that the Yankees were cheating 15-16? Ironically, one of the players during those years was the one that took the Yankees system and modified it for the Astros. I remember reading that when Beltran got to the Astros, he told them that they were outdated and that's when he created the sign stealing scheme.
Then there's the fact that I keep seeing Red Sox fans talking shit about the Astros. One dude that has a podcast what saying stuff about the Astros cheating and I pointed pointed put that the Red Sox were also caught and he started arguing with me. He even had the audacity to say that the Red Sox didn't use electronics. I responded by quoting Manfred saying that the Red Sox used electronics and he never responded. So yea, I think MLB was successful in making the Astros the scapegoats.
As a Rangers fan, I have yet to care about the "cheating" in 17. I'm still convinced every team cheats like that, the stros were just dumb enough to get caught
1 pissed off employee narced and the MLB started massive investigation. Multiple MLB players say they witnessed the same electronic sign stealing first hand on other team and the mlb does.... NOTHING. Yeah, every team was cheating, the MLB and fans just don't give a damn. And the Astros were stupid for falling into the trap and tainting their legacy.
Stealing signs is as old as baseball
Yeah they all steal signs.
The electronic sign stealing was a league-wide issue. People who pretend it was just the Astros at this point are either ignorant or lying to themselves.
The '17 title is no less legit than any number of 'legitimate' titles won with steroids.
The also didn't 'get caught'; they literally had an ex-teammate rat them out. But even that rat said other teams were doing the same thing. Funny how people ignore that part.
2018 Boston Red Sox caught cheating was something that not only you left out, but seems that the whole sports world continues to have a case of amnesia when it comes to pointing that out.
not to mention that Alex Cora is the common denominator in both the 'Stros and Sox cheating and yet he did not face any consequences.
Where is the 2nd letter commissioner? It shows many teams cheating. Yanks and dodgers
@@Burt1038 Wasn't Cora suspended for a year?
To be fair, they did beat the Dodgers in the world series in 5 games as opposed to the Astros who beat the Dodgers in 7. I'm not a fan of any of the three I'm just saying that while, yes, the Red Sox did cheat in 2018, I would argue that it wasn't as bad as the Astros' system and they beat the Dodgers in less games by a larger margin.
I'll say this as an Astros fan - you gotta let that part of it go. No one cares about that - and bringing it up seems petty, especially now.
They weren't cheating this time (most likely) - so nothing that happened before really matters. When people look back at this period of baseball 10-15-20 years from now - that will just be a footnote that most won't really care to talk about.
6:30 You can’t leave out David Hensley having an incredible AB and taking his walk before Peña would get his hit and Yordan would walk it off
Meh
This is not only a W for Houston solidifying itself as a true sports city, but the state of Texas. Texas always brought talented baseball players, but the team's that represented the state never got the cherry on top. The 2017 win felt like an asterisk, although the Red Sox did something similar the following year and nobody talks about it. This World Series Championship definitely put Texas on the map as a baseball state with Missouri, California, and New York.
Let's just hope the Rangers can put it together again to get back to the promised land.
@@OzeeManDias I will never root for a Dallas team. No thank you.
@@Nami Just because you hate the Cowboys (I presume) doesn’t mean that the other DFW teams deserve the same scorn.
The Rangers, Stars, and Mavs haven’t quite the same reputation.
Unless it’s a civic pride thing.
@@OzeeManDias I could not care less about football. The Texans are my team, but only by virtue of me being a Houstonian. I'm a Rockets fan first and an Astros fan second. Dynamo get some love, too. Dallas does not. Fuck the Mavs and especially fuck the Rangers.
@@Nami Civic pride it is.
Well, c’est la vie. I’m at least pleased for the Astros for getting a World Series win that isn’t tainted by a scandal.
Every team was cheating in 2017, only difference was we had Mr. Judas in the locker room
Absolutely not true. The statistical anomalies with the 2017 Astros are off the charts. No other club has ever come close. In terms of career years at OPS, K rates, HR rates - it was ridiculous. Some of those players in 2017 had OPS that was 200 points greater than their career. Too corrupt. The 2018 Red Sox might have cheated, but as a fan of stats, it wasn't anywhere near what the 2017 Astros did.
Mr. Judas 😂
Great piece...well done! Their run will continue for the foreseeable future too as most of their roster will be back next year, and the amount of young talent on this team is insane: Yordon Alvarez is 25; Kyle Tucker 25; David Hensley 26; Bryan Abreu 25; Hunter Brown 24; Luis Garcia 25; Christian Javier 25; Framber Valdez 26; Jeremy Pena 25; Korey Lee 24; Josey Urquidy 27; even Alex Bregman is only 28, and Lance McCullers is only 29. The future is very bright! Go Strohs!
Come back to the National League while you're at it, oh that's right you guys would have legit competition in the National League.
It's not the astros that would have competition, it would be the dodgers
@@Shawn6751 how about the national league send us some competition, lighten yalls load. trade ya the angels and athletics for the dodgers and mets 😎
@@Shawn6751 Hoes mad 😂
@@Shawn6751 shut the hell up Bro, salty A**.
Stros won fair and square,
Quit hating is bad for your health.
You mentioned cheating plenty of times and neglected to mention that most of the teams Houston beat also cheated.
As an h town long lifer, this was so freaking beautiful. The whole season, post season. Just incredible
Team of Cheaters
Lol cope harder 😂
MLB didnt even punish you after the cheating. Shouldnt have been able to retain this team anyhow
Having to live in the shithole that is Houston is a big enough punishment
We finally won our first legitimate World Series!!! Let’s go baby🎉!!!
Its funny how its only ever the haters that get upset at 2017 astros. Bro literally every team steals signs. Its a strawman for loser teams to try and attack because they lost that year. and these past 5 years soldify that the Astros are just that good regardless whether you think stealing signs is bad or not
Feels really cool that the Astros are starting to become like the Patriots of baseball
Why? Cause cheating has given them more rings than they deserve?
@@JackieDaytona1776 because Astros wreck shop cheating or not and people can't accept it so they default to hate which it which is a weak minded place and perfect for greatness to walk all over. People like you will focus on the small problem over the span of 6 years and overlook all the good in between that is worth amplifying. Astros fans will tell stories of greatness and overcoming haters. Haters will sit there and be bitter focused on a little problem that once fixed marks an even greater achievement because it came from a further place and have been through more obstacles while still beating everyone else who didn't have those same challenges. The mark of someone is the challenges they overcome, Astros are greater than any other team over that stretch of time in baseball for what they have done over the past 6-7 years in the history of baseball and that's a fact whether you or anyone likes it or not. Hate on or do better like the Astros did and we will all be smiling as Astros fans, just go look at them smile after the win! Go watch the parade as the city and nation celebrate greatness and overcoming challenges!
the difference being that, like it or not, the football nation respected the Patriots while also hating them. the Astros on the other hand…
@@bkg5494 I think the point being the Patriots were hated like the Astros, I wasn't comparing how they were respected. There are people who aren't bitter people and still respect the Astros that aren't from Houston whether you like it or not is your problem actually.
@@bkg5494 what you people don't get is we put on the Houston vs Everyone letter jacket and mopped the floor with the country that hated us. All the hate and they still won, we obviously don't care about the hate lol. It just makes you a less a person and us greater for overcoming it hahaha. Hate on but we wish you do better lol. We're smiling either way!!!
2010s Giants: 😐
I have never been more happy as an Astros fan than finally having a ring that I can point to and say “hey look we’re legit” which we can for 2022. We cheated in 2017, but a team doesn’t stay this good for this long if the only thing they have is cheating. I was at game 2 in person, it was electrifying. I am proud to be an Astros fan. Can’t wait for next season where I hope we can take yet another ring 🧡🚀
2017 was legit too. The haters that act like the astros were the lone cheaters and did something that guaranteed a win every game can keep whining.
Finally a real astros fan. Now when ever it's asked, you can say here's a ring. 2017 should definitely not count. But 22 for sure does
@@MrFreakout76 show me how the dodgers cheated in those games I'll wait.
@@everybodysMaster1 it’s more so that the numbers (Fangraphs as my source) prove that the cheating wasn’t helpful in anyway and actually hindered their performance. Go look up the team statistics and the home and road splits in 2017. The cheating didn’t help. But the media conveniently left all that out.
There have been several players who said sign stealing was a league wide issue. Are they lying?
Conversely, show me an example of the Astros banging a garbage can against the Dodgers. I'll wait.
Open up the second letter showing many teams doing the same. Commissioner won’t open it
It’s so weird that after all this time only 2017 is looked down on but 2018 is not for Boston.
because none of these idiots are aware of Boston or the Yankees cheating because the media never talks about it at all.
That's because the POS commissioner singled out the Astros as the scapegoat for the whole league that does the same thing.
The Astros were not the underdog against the Phillies, they were the favorites against every team they faced. People rooted against them because they don’t like them. Most people outside of Philly who said that the Phillies would win it probably wouldn’t have bet money on it.
The whole 'underdog' 'Rocky' narrative Philly had was ridiculous, though. Philadelphia literally had a payroll that dwarfed Houston's payroll by 60 million.
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo
Exactly
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo also very true. I forgot all about that.
"I left for a fkg $3 mil yearly difference...I shoulda stayed"-CC#1
He really said that?
You know, for the record. Since the baseball was first started, stealing signs was a thing. It's something that most don't talk about, but it has been going on for a long time. Yes, I am a life long Astros fan, no I don't condone cheating. But the Astros get way too much grief over being caught. Barry Bonds is probably one of the greatest players ever, but he is still waiting on an invite to the hall. A few others are in the same boat. I am just saying, yes, cheating is bad. And No, it will never stop. Every so often MLB has to "Make an example" But in all fairness, they want the cash rolling in, so they often over look a lot of stuff. TLDR: MLB has to nail someone every so often so they look like they care. Also, if you really believe the Astros were the only ones cheating... I have a bridge for sale.
I have to say that stealing signs my using your brain and eyes is different than having technology steal the the signs. There is a line there imo. It’s like spider tack or whatever. It went beyond cheating with some pine tar to getting real scientific about it. I heard some teams hired people just to make these substances. I’m sure it wasn’t just an Astro thing just like the sticky grip stuff wasn’t just Bauer.
@@sococomfort22s34 I agree. But as tech advances, I am guessing some teams will take it much farther. And I am also guessing some teams already have, but yet have got caught. Think about that. Some teams need to be made an example. I wonder who will be next?
You forgot that Michael Brantley was playing left field until he re-injured his shoulder to end his season (career?) . That was a huge loss to the team at the time.
He's 35 and still an elite hitter. No way he doesn't come back.
Just want to point out that A LOT of other teams were cheating as well. It wasn't just the Astros.
Name one team with proof. I know your probably a Astros fan but the truth is nobody cares they cheated anymore. It was years ago!
People cover their ears when you say this.
Yea but he doesn’t care about other teams cheating. Only the Astros. He’s a hates on them.
@@mannygonzalez4178
It's really crazy how people continue to pretend that only the Astros stole any signs with technology.
We don’t rebuild, we reload. #houstonastros
That part!!!! I’m ready for next year I wanna go back to back!!
Yes we do rebuild it was a long 4 years, please humble yourself. Only a bandwagoner would say what you said.
It was good that they got rid of the major cheaters from 2017, though. 2022 is a legit championship.
As I watched with tears in my eyes my Astros win the WS, I tip my hat to the Phillies - you guys fought so hard and were a tough team all through the 6 games! You have a stellar team, so no shade on you guys. I'm so proud of our Astros for toughing it out those 6 games - but again, the Phillies gave us a real run for our money. We'll meet again!!
We finally won our first legitimate World Series!!! Letssss goooo baby😊
@@SupremeNKickz Clown🤪
W astros fan
@@donaphx7921 just being honest. Feels good to finally get that monkey of our back
@@SupremeNKickz I'll be honest too, The record book says 2 WS wins 2017 & 2022. It' still does not matter what the haters say.
That’s a stretch
Not at all
They consistently have a shot for a title every year, so i guess they kinda are. As a dodger fan, this is what we expect to be but arent lmao
@@perc3136 2 rings in 6 seasons with not even the same core players is not a dynasty lmao
@@silkyjohnson7599 that’s what I’m sayin. The giants are the current team to hold on the dynasty trait. Astros have a legit WS and one that has an asterisk
@@perc3136 in my eyes dynasties win multiple championships in a much shorter time period than 5 year period, so I guess this is an opinion, but we should all agree that the late 90s Yankees were a much more prominent dynasty. Edit: 2010-2014 Giants too
Did you say they have a "cesspool of talent"? That's an odd complement. Dynasty? I dunno. Win a third and then we can talk.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
Winning 2 championships 5 years apart isn't a dynasty lol
Trashtros don’t have any championships
Why is it that the Astros 2017 championship is tainted but we all ignore the 2015-2019 Yankees season and the 2018 Redsox. The same 2018 Redsox that won 4-1 in the ALCS against the Astros. Yet it's talked about as if nothing happened.
You are FOS. The entire league was “cheating” in 2017. Why buy in to MLB’s BS that the Astros were the only team?
The Astros have literally proven people wrong
The weird thing to me is that the 2018 Red Sox were also sign stealing using electronic devices, but nobody views their 2018 World Series as tainted like the Astros. It just never gets mentioned.
That is so true. The Yankees were also busted for cheating. The guy that taught the Astros to cheat, Carlos Beltran, came from the Yankees and told the Astros that they were way behind in cheating compared to the rest of the league.
Both against my Dodgers too 😭
Least we got one in 2020 though.
Do you know what dynasty means?
What Boston cheating in 2018?
Yes and the Dodgers in 17 also.
A dynasty? Damn bruh I thought you were a legit baseball channel. Guess not.
I remember listening to the day games from the back of my high school classrooms late 90s. We stuck around for many disappointing seasons. We deserve this! Best fans in the league!
Couldn’t be a fan of a super team that was bought like the dodgers. Hell even the phillies have a way higher payroll than Astros I wouldn’t necessarily call them underdogs 😂
this is NOT a dynasty
They really have been banging up the league and creating a huge buzz over the last few years
first it was 5 years ago and the buzzer was proven by mlb to be false.
lol - Astros Fan
Hoes mad 😂
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee It’s a joke
The amount of saltiness realy showing as soon he mention "dynasty". Bringing up the past then bringing up the past teams including the one in great depression. Like Astros can win 2 more after this then some of you would still full of salt at the end of the day. Btw congrats Astros
Ive been waiting for this for so long and definitely they deserve it
no they dont shut up
Why because they cheated, and faced ZERO punishment? Pete Rose is banned for LIFE for betting on his OWN TEAM to win. These guys cheated multiple other teams out of wins with ELECTRONICS......No penalty for Altuve, Bregman etc
@@RandallBalls The Yankees or Red Sox players cheating faced ZERO punishment too. As an example the Yankees cheating in 2015 & 2016 their players faced ZERO punishment. So your logic does not hold water, Just admit your a sour grapes loser with jealousy issues.🤪
@@RandallBalls they deserve it because they were better than every other team team this season get over yourself and admit the Astros can win without cheating sorry to tell you but that was 5 years ago 😊
@@DeadRebounds cry about it
Thank you so much for this video. It was a fun year and this Astros team, dusty, the fans, the city of Houston truly deserve the championship! My hat off to the mariners, the yankeees and the Phillies for giving the Astros the challenge to get here. I know the other teams will be more hungrier next year but the Astros will, with no doubt in my mind, come back better than ever before. Congrats to my team, your 2022 World Series champions!!! The Houston Astros!!!!
Fans that know baseball history understand that stealing signs is over a hundred years old,and EVERY team has done it. Old school did it with binoculars and walkie talkies. 52 giants did it in the world series
I just love how fans refuse to acknowledge other players speaking out and saying the Astros weren’t the only ones doing it.
Baseball just sucks as a sport, full of cheaters top to bottom
They have one legit title, they are FAR from the biggest dynasty
As an Astros fan, I'm not satisfied, this sounds selfish, but I want more, more NATIONAL LEAGUE BLOOD
I agree, those guys cleared up the Astros name and went on to have a great 2022 postseason, well deserved win, and Dusty is now a solid HOF candidate, Congrats Astros !!!
Let’s stick with the narrative of the Astros were the only team that used electronic sign stealing in 2017. If that’s the case, Carlos Beltran is a mastermind, and he benefited from electronic sign stealing *only* when he played for the Astros, not the year before when he was with the Yankees, or the year after when he was with the Yankees organization. Is this the narrative you really want to stick with?
There was only one way I would ever respect them again, if they could win it all without cheating, they did so, congrats to them.
I think the country hating on them just made them better (I wont get into the fact that they literally learned the trick from the Yankees Beltran and that the Yankees and Red Sox just paid a fine for doing the exact same thing). It was a truly "Us against the world" mentality,
With all the scandals and losing in the World Series and being the most hated team in baseball they prove that they don’t need trash cans and Carlos Correa to win a championship
Only 5 players are still Astros from the 2017 team. Your point is not as valid as you think it is
@@corruputedmike1320 yeah maybe we don’t have all those players but the Astros are still getting so much hate and disrespect even though all the players that where on the 2017 team are mostly gone doesn’t take the fact away they still are not getting respect just because it is the same organization
@@ISE_22AD22 Ya'll don't deserve it. You lost to a worse Braves team last season.
@@soulknife20 so did the 106-win Dodgers, not to mention the Braves went 44-28 after the All-Star break, which is better than the 40-31 record the Astros posted, so the Braves were the better team by that point. They also beat tougher opponents in the playoffs than the Astros did. So the Braves were the better team.
im only a casual Astros Baseball fan and I still dont get the big deal about the Astros cheating when everyone was cheating. So the Astros were just cheating extra hard? I don't get it, but like I said, I'm just a casual.
The big deal is the vast majority of people refuse to believe their team was cheating so they scapegoat the Astros. Manfred used the Astros as a scapegoat to get rid of all the electronic sign stealing the league was doing and it worked, the fans ate the narrative that it was all the Astros fault and no one will ever believe anything else.
It's not a big deal. MLB and these other fan bases are hypocrites.
Everyone was doing it, the MLB just used the Astros as the scapegoat to divert outrage from the MLB cronies to a single team.
It’s funny how a lot of people pull the “everyone cheats” card yet they never give me concrete evidence on how every mlb team cheats.🤷
@@idkbro8470 You're the exact NPC the MLB was counting on. The investigation into the Astros was started by claims from ONE disgruntled employee. Yet when numerous players say straight up they have witness other teams doing the same thing is there any investigation by the MLB? NOPE! That's how it works dumb dumb, the MLB intentionally ignored every sign stealing allegation while only investigating the Astros so the big market team's NPC fans (you) get to claim there's no evidence, then scapegoat the Astros, and all the other teams stop sign stealing with no damage to their reputation. No investigation = no evidence, everything was speculation before that, you just bought the narrative perfectly because you're Manfred's personal sheep.
Very well produced video. I will say, Jeff Luhnow deserves a ton of credit for his role in this. The moves made prior to his departure set us up for continued success, and as an organization, we’ve kept it rolling. Can’t wait to do it again next year. #YouGotHouston
I hope all the cheating stuff can die. They won clean and, to be fair, most of the players on the 17 team are with other teams or out of baseball. As was pointed out to me, the Astros weren't the only team cheating then. The Astros just had the misfortune of being caught.
And the most infamous "cheating" player from 2017 who's still with the team, didn't even cheat to begin with
The Astros didn't get caught. Mike Fiers ratted them out like the disgusting POS Judas he is after he left the team.
I've noticed that he was always "injured" and on the IL whenever we played the teams he was on after that. He also never felt bad enough about 2017 to give back his WS champion ring.
But he got what he deserved -- he's now out of baseball after failing out of the Chinese league. Couldn't have been more deserved.
@@ShannonR1969 Well, the point is that MLB found out and it cleaned up the problem in the game. However the league found out, I’m glad they did. It was obviously a pervasive problem in base baseball. Like I said, the Astros weren’t the only guilty team but they took things a bit too far. Anyway, I’m glad they won a clean one and Dusty Baker got his ring. I’m a Braves fan and I’m sure they were guilty of something too.
Eh I don't know about that...but, I guess there's no reason to think they can't win it all the next couple seasons
They’re certainly setup to be a 1996-2002 Yankees type of threat to win the whole thing for at least the next 5yrs. Would not surprise me if they win at least 2 or 3 more in the 2020s
bro come on lol...i know the phillies were red hot, but to say there was an argument to be made that maybe the astros were the underdogs is a massive stretch.
If they were cheating why did they lose all games at home. You would think that they would win at home…. Hmmmmm…. Also quiet as it is kept the Astros were not the only team stealing signs and using technology to gain the upper hand. MLB was aware of this. They warned all involved and the Astros continued. As well as the other teams. Well I have given them props. Those guys are Professional athletes. And I am not even a Fan… folks need to cut it out and leave it be…
Really nice seeing dusty and the Astros win it. Im not an Astros fan but I can say that they deserved it. I like seeing good teams like this. It’s not the dodgers, nor Yankees with tons of old all star free agents. It’s a great team formed with young players.
Verlander at 39 with Cpoy and most likely Cy is so fkin amazing
Houston Astros are going to be the New England Patriots of MLB. Got caught cheating and still won after it all, helping to legitimatize championships.
I typically consider 3 championships to be a Dynasty but I suppose 2 in a 5 year span is essentially a dynasty. Either way, Astros are so well run and I am happy for Dusty.
2 in 6*
And they cheated to win one of them lmfao def not a dynasty
@@Ddaddy444 And it's a good thing no one gives a f what you think
@@Ddaddy444 stay salty my friend 🤘🤘🤘
Also the fact that they've had 95 wins or more the vast majority of that time, with only 2 seasons not being 100+ wins. Also making 6 straight ALCS appearances. At this point you'd have to be blind to think that Houston is anything but the best in the AL.
Bottom line is everyone still complaining about cheating is living in the past. You can count two position players left (Gurriel and Bregman) that are known to of cheated, we know Altuve wanted nothing to do with it. If you don't think that, look into it more...
Different coach. Different GM. Almost entirely different players. Winning by dominant pitching. What do you want them to do? Ask for more punishment from the MLB? Be mad at the MLB, not the Astros in 2022. It's ridiculous. The Yankees and Red Sox are known to have cheated as well... But we don't have to get into that.
Not saying that makes it right. In fact, took me a while to even watch the Astros again.
Here's the bottom line for the fans. Houston has been TORTURED by sports for it's entire existence. Fourth largest city in the country, and never respected. From the "Well Michael Jordan wasn't playing" Rockets championships, the 2017 Astros scandal, the Oilers choking in the 90s, James Harden royally choking every year in the playoffs, the Texans mid 10's run being derailed by injuries to star players and no QB, The recent Texans run being blown up to pieces by Bill O Brien and Deshaun Watson... Guys it's been a MESS.
And we have to sit and listen to the likes of YANKEES and PATRIOTS fans invalidate THIS TITLE. Nope. Not this one.
The bangs were tracked.
1 bang vs Boston in Game 1 of the DS.
That's it. But Game 5 of the 2017 WS, the Astros caught the Dodgers in the replay room and had them removed.
I’ll take “Things that never happened” for $300 Alex
Greatest thing to happen to baseball since dethroning the notorious fraudulent franchises of the Yankees & dodgers! This is coming from a fan of both NY & LA btw.
Great Vid. We are in the Golden Age for STROS Baseball and it’s Unbelievable at most times. The number of team and league records we broke this year is insane. To name a few-
-2 immaculate innings in the same game against the same three batters with two different pitchers
-Led the A.L. in every Major Pitching Category (ERA, Wins, Strikeouts, Quality Starts, Saves)
-No Hit Yankees and Phillies in there Stadiums with Combined Pitching staff both which were Started by Javier and ended by Pressley. Yanks had not been NO HIT since early 2000’s by another Combined Astros Staff. And Was the second team ever to NO HIT the opposing team in a World Series And first to do it with a combined pitching staff
-First Rookie SS To win a Gold Glove and Tied for 1st for a Rookie to Win MVP in the ALCS and WS & is 34 Million a Year cheaper then Correa
-Will have a Cy Young award winner in Justin Verlander following a Year and a Half break for Tommy John Surgery & Recovery
-Framber Valdez recorded 25 straight Quality Starts in the same season
-Our 2 Catchers Maldonado & Vasquez Caught the Most Baserunners trying to Steal and led in Defensive WAR
-Tucker is the Second Astro ever to Hit 30+ HR’s, 100+RBI’s and steal 25+ bases. (Bagwell was the 1st)
Exactly, unlike 2017 when they were cheating and had a team BA of .282, the 2022 Astros had a modest .246 team BA but they won, WITHOUT cheating, with defense, baserunning, timely hitting and most of all PITCHING. Good, clean honest team. 2022 Astros.
It’s just time to move on really. Majority of people are hypocrites. When they lost game 1 and 3, it was a laughing stock saying “they can’t win without cheating” proposing they’re not cheating but they win the series and they’re still cheating ? Kinda weird. They say they only respect dusty for the win cuz everybody is a cheater but, it’s only gurriel, altuve and Bregman still on that team. Count the 2 pitchers if you wanted to I guess so 5 players. Everybody else is new, 2019-present. What I don’t like is this whole like “it makes baseball look bad.” But those people make it look just as bad, constantly bringing it up overtime. I understand it’s still kinda fresh but it’s been 5 years. At some point you just need to move on. You don’t gotta forgive, but, they won a World Series. Your point was proven now, by saying they can’t win without cheating. Well they won a World Series. Idk it’s just a lot of hypocrisy lingering around. Not only that, I’m sure majority of the players are moving on now, because it just doesn’t matter anymore. It’s in the past now and what’s done is done. At the end of the day, a lot of people hate that nothing more was done to them but there’s always secrets kept. Maybe the MLB was protecting something that would’ve made it actually look much more horrible so they did as much as they could without something else going down. No team is innocent. Some teams did it worse than others. But If you want baseball to have this “great” outlook on it, then start by swallowing that pill and admit the Astros are that team. This is a whole different team now.
As a dodgers fan, this hurts. The astros won a real championship before us. Congrats
You gotta admit tho, him call them a dynasty is the dumbest take ever. I’m not taking away from them winning the WS, but to call them a dynasty isn’t good. They have postseason success but this is the first time they played legitimately, slapping the 2017 cheating scandal is just tacky. I don’t know, it’s almost calling them the underdog
@@UNDERSCORE035 there’s no team in the mlb close to a dynasty then.
@@larymayorquin5598 if the Astros can win another two in four years then I feel like that’s the dynasty level (not 2 WS with 4 AL pennants)
@@UNDERSCORE035 I agree with that but I don’t see that happening
@@larymayorquin5598 true but they got potential. Hope that the dodgers figure something out on overcoming the October flu and win a WS to prove everyone wrong
A dynasty is general three championships, and the Astros just one their first legitimate one. To say they didn’t need to cheat in a year when both the ALCS and WS went for seven games, half of their WS wins were in extra innings, and they scored the exact same number of runs as the Dodgers after LA had gone 7-1 leading up to the Fall Classic is just foolish. The only question should be whether or not Houston would’ve lost to the Yankees or Dodgers. The Astros and Dodgers have been dominant but neither are dynasties. This 2022 title seems a lot like the Lakers’ 2020 championship in that they had other teams do the dirty work for them. Obviously they beat every team and nothing can take that away from them, but it was the Padres who took out the Mets and Dodgers and they never got the chance to prove themselves against an elite, 100-win team.
I know Dynasty can be subjective, but I myself associate it with winning. So far, 2 champs in 6 years is not quite a dynasty. They have 4 World Series appearances, but still only 2 champs. With the talent they have , and their shit division, I can see them wining again to cement it.
In a year or two Mariners can very well have the Astros fighting much harder to maintain their dominance in the division. Angles could too if they knew how to spend their money, lol. Shmucks.
@@WinkyMcWinkerson fuckin angels
4:45 "they knew what pitch was coming and it gave them an unfair advantage.." 😂🤡 Every single detailed data set showed it was a net negative effect for the hitters. Cheating was/is rampant in the league. Stros were a scapegoat. Their 8 years of success, 6 straight ALCS, 4 WS appearances, 2 WS wins and 4 100+ win seasons in that time are all the imperical evidence needed to prove 2017 was no fluke due some mid season trash can banging.
Biggest dynasty? Really?
Need to win one more in the next couple of years to even be considered a dynasty. Now they're the biggest? C'mon man.
Baseball's ONLY dynasty atm. They cheated for 3 years and still only won 1 world series. They choked 3 seperate times in the world series before winning another one. Worst modern dynasty in sports. Even in baseball, the early 2010s Giants far surpass the Astros. Yeah the astros win a lot and Dusty in likeable, but as long as anyone from the core of 2017 remains, they will never be legitimate, they don't ever deserve credit. They did this to themselves. Even with the benefit of the doubt, the astros are 1-3 in world series they didn't cheat in.
If The Astros are a dynasty then so are the Dodgers because they both only have one ring. A dynasty is like 2010 Giants with three rings. Three rings or more usually is what makes a dynasty like the Warriors or the 2000s Lakers.
The Astros have TWO rings. Cry about 2017 all you want, the Astros won that year.
And the Astros have been to six straight ALCS. Dodgers couldn't even get to the NLCS this year nor could they in 2019.
Agreed the Astros shouldn’t be considered a dynasty with one legit world championship.
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo and at the end of the day WS victories are what’s counted for a team to be considered a dynasty. The Astros only have one legit championship.
Dodgers a dynasty 🤣 All they did was buy all the best players they could and still only won World Series and that was the year that was shortened by covid lockdowns. Astors have been one of the best teams in baseball since 2015 and they have more then one ring. You don’t consider a team dynasty just off rings. The 90s braves only won on World Series but they were easily a dynasty and the best team of the 90s. Astros have been the best team in baseball since 2017
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo Hey I’m not no Dodger fan and I actually kinda think the Mickey Mouse ring is fraudulent. But if you think the Astros have two rings then you must be some sort of baby. The worst part is that they had the talent to win without cheating but they did so it doesn’t count. This one counts but it’s not called a dynasty it’s only one and pennants don’t count to say your a dynasty it’s the rings that count. Once again a dynasty is like the Warriors or the 90s Bulls. In Baseball examples the 30s Yankees, the 90s to early 2000s Yankees, the 2010s Giants.
Why do people make it like the Astros were the only team cheating? Lots of teams were. The Astros had a player in 2017 (Carlos Beltran) that had just left the Yankees and Rangers the year before and said that our sign stealing wasn’t up to par with the rest of the league and that they needed to try harder to steal signs. Sign stealing was a problem in the hole league. Just like the steroid era, Barry Bonds wasn’t the only one doing steroids the pitchers were too (Roger Clemons). 2017 is legit because everyone was cheating.
Everyone knows you have to win 3 chips, at minimum, to claim dynasty status.
How can anyone forget that The Astro's "cheated" when YOU keep talking about it? I didn't count, but close to 5 times you said they were "Cheaters". How about the other teams that supposedly cheated???????
Still can't believe my Astros won it all! Amazing postseason run featuring
Alvarez's walkoff against Mariners in game 1. His go ahead homer in game 2.
The 18 inning game with Pena hitting the only homer. The sweep of the Yankees and completely dominating them.
Then watching the no hitter vs the Philles and the amazing clutch 3 run home run in game 6 by Alvarez. Plus all the amazing plays and hits made by Jeremy Pena. I'll never forget this run for as long as I live. Go 'Stros 🤘🧡💙
They aren't even a dynasty
You must be an Asstros fan
1. They cheated and there is no changing that
2. Technically only won 1 WS if you take that into account.
3. Good team, yes, dynasty...no
Hopefully with dusty baker they can repeat this championship run. Love that guy.
Yep
That is a total lie. The Astros did NOT cheat. But the red sox and EVERY baseball team have, and what did they get....nothing. You guys are full of BS
I'm a season ticket holder and a big astro fan. And they are not a dynasty. 1 questionable title and one legit. I say that they would need to win at least 2 more titles.
Cheated their way to a championship. As opposed to all those teams that cheated their way to losing seasons. If those are the options than championship it is. Teams been cheating this game forever. If you know the history of baseball Astros aren’t the first and won’t be the last.
The bottom line. “They knew what pitch was coming.” Ehh how much research have you done on this. At best it was a tip off for offspeed and it was correct less than half the time.
Another banger❤😎
This Astros ring really hurts the Dodgers fans because they used to say "at least our 60 game season ring is worth more than the ring those cheaters got in 2017". Now the Astros fans can say that they got a ring that is worth way more than the Dodgers 2020 ring.
Best team since the Joe Torre Yankees of the nineties
Congrats to Houston but baseballs biggest dynasty? Come on man you can hate the Yankees all you want but they are baseballs biggest dynasty by a mile.
First of all, congrats to the Astros. Especially Dusty Baker.
Here’s my take: The only team who could put a good fight in the AL postseason were Mariners and at lesser extent, Guardians. I would imagine had Cleveland play their “disgusting brand of baseball” against persistent Houston bullpen, it might go to at least 6/7 games.
One luck factor the Astros had was facing a rather defeatist Yankees. Since August the Bronx struggled so much to the point I predicted Houston to sweep Bronx should they met in ALCS again. And just as I predicted, the Astros swept them.
Yanks took on Boone's personality of not taking credit for losses and blaming random things. Stuff like that can't be good for your teams confidence and work ethic.
I really felt for dusty that I wanted him to win. Especially people suggesting that he's not a hall of famer without a ring which is ridiculous. I think Joe Torre, and Dusty Baker and Jim Leyland are three of the best managers ever.
The Jays could have taken the Astros down. They beat them 4-2 in the season series
@@seancharles7248 look me in the eyes and tell me the Mariners are a better team than the Jays
@@bockstaboi6638 Even with the Jays’ bad luck, they would’ve put a better fight than the Bronx “Defeatists”.
Dodgers years of regular season success, multiple league pennants yet only 1 real ring, despite being in the WS 3 times in 5 years: "Mickey mouse choking frauds!"
Astros years of regular season success, multiple league pennants, yet only 1 real ring, despite being in the WS 4 times in 6 years: "Baseball's BIGGEST DYNASTY!"
because the dodgers have no rings but the astros have 2
To be fair, the Dodgers have choked and lost to underdog teams such as Padres, Nationals, and Braves. Braves and Nationals went on to win, but still, you're the favorite for a reason. The Astros lost to the Red Sox (dominated in 2018) and Rays, who were a top seed.
That and the Dodgers have been choking for the past decade anyways. The one time they won , it was against the Rays. I'm a Rays fan. Life is pain.
Also the Astros won on the Road in Game 7 so another Dodgers choke.
Astros are way more dominant than the dodgers lol
@@ssuperman123 The Astros have 1 legitimate ring
@@ssuperman123 Astros have 1 legit ring. Dodgers have half a ring we will call it. They're both chokers. Simple as that.
Dynasty! Hahaha to early to consider that. People are so quick to jump on a wagon that was empty to begin with.
Dynasty? I'd say that's a reach with only one legit ring
That is exactly what I said! WTF!
Did they take away the other one?
They have two legit rings.
The same number as The Big Red Machine. With just as many pennants.
@@Icecreamforcrowtoo They have one legit ring. At least they have that
One ring two ring it’s still not a dynasty either way atleast not yet