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- Myles of @answeringadventism during his "burial" of ADL makes a remark in passing that the scapegoat was considered a sin offering and that this proves that not all sin offerings were killed. He did this in response to our argument that his soul according to Isaiah 53:10 was a sin offering. Let us read the context of Leviticus 16 to see if Myles is correct.
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Most of these apologists they never study the Bible in context, they just pick one line to base their human theology on or only to disapprove of others' heamanitics without reading properly. We thank God for ADL for their honest Bible analytics.
You just described ADL. That’s sooooo out of context. But hey, at least it supports EGW.
@@life.after.adventism When you can't refute Scripture, you bring up the Ellen G.White blame game. Good job.
@@billhendricks5375 Check my other comments. My other comment started with a clear verse, so clear that it can’t be clearer than that. What else can I do? I’m done. I can only pray. I love Adventists and my prayer is for them to get to know the truth.
Scapegoat wasn't a sin offering , the goat that was slaughtered was...the one that was let loose into the wilderness represents Satan = also know as Azazel. Go check it out yourself everyone online I books on sacrifes in the sanctuary on Azazel
@@life.after.adventism Oh my, I'm so confused now. ADL just presented the clear truth from the Bible and now you claim an opposite clear "truth" is correct. How are we to know who is right? Well, we know there will be "deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie". One is correct and the other has rejected "truth" and God will send them strong delusions, that they should believe the lie". How do we know who is right and who is believing a lie? Simple..." Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.? What are the results or the conclusions of your message? Does your theology lead to a deep fear of "respect" for God and the keeping of His commandments? You my friend have been led to believe a lie. I'm sorry but save your prayers for yourself.
I am jumping here saying praises to the Most High God of Israel- Hallelujah with full mouth
Every time I listen to the Bible I learn a new
@@Creationist432 Amen
So you're happy that they're saying that Jesus Christ of Leviticus 16:10, they're saying that's the devil am I correct?
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv If you stick to the context of the whole chapter, you will understand that the goat for Azzazel represented the Devil. But the goat for Yehovah represented Jesus.
I see the light and I am jubilant. Why are you upset???
My favorite part is where miles is easily debunked simply by continuing to read the verses immediately following.
Every video he does is like this.
@@ri3m4nn 😀
Praise God for you brothers!!! ADL all day !
Adventist's can't justify their doctrines in the Bible so they go to extra biblical sources. Desperate, they turn to Ellen, which is not working out so well. Now they turn to "devil worshipers", they condemn, to save them from their failed doctrines. Oh the irony of these modern day Sadducees.
I was dying😂😂 when Sam said the other goat went into the wilderness eventually dies 😝😝😝
@@kydanefrancis3755 Was painful for me to watch him miss the fact that he actually agrees with us and the Scriptures.
Myles: "Context is King"
Also Myles: * ignores the context *
@@MajorGari Myles: hypocrite
The Adventist's greatest weapon is the bible. The critics ? Human traditions and fanciful arguments.
Where does the Bible say that God is going to destroy me with fire for worshiping him on Sunday?
Where does the Bible say that:
Jesus Christ started the Investigative Judgment on October 22, 1844
Jesus Christ entered the Most Holy Place on October 22, 1844?
The door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844? Remember the Shut Door doctrine?
The National Sunday Law? Those who worship God on Sunday will attempt to kill those who keep the Sabbath?
The seal of God is keeping the Sabbath?
Those who worship God on Sunday will take the mark of the beast?
Don't forget slander and gossip as well. In "service to God" against SDA "Heresy" of COURSE. Like Je$uits, they justify the means to their end.
Wonderful job, guys, it's obvious that Sam. And Myles have chosen to be willfully ignorant, not ignorant. They actually know the truth, but they chose to skip it. Dance around it whatever you want to call it. I don't know if it's directly satan's work or they just know. I don't. Know if I don't want to excuse them. I don't know the answer. I'm not in their hearts. But great job, guys.
Indeed context is important…It was here I learnt to read the whole text when I argue with my friends who are not Adventist and it helps alot.
Myles is more interested in argument than deep study. He needs prayer.
very true, every video that I have seen of his, he sounds angry and bitter. He is seeking to be right than seeking the truth. Let us continue to pray for him
Amen!
I think Myles may have some past hurt he is carrying fueling his motivation in what he does. If that's so, it's sad to see it result in his retaliation with SDAs. His attitudes and self satisfaction when he thinks he is shedding truth makes it look like the root is coming from a personal unresolved issues. Anyhow I hope he finds forgiveness and healing through Christ.
If it is a matter of disagreement then why his attitude which comes across as arrogant, rude and mocking.Can you not disagree and still extend Christ love, kindness, humility. Instead he seems to constantly try to prove his points and then when he asks questions he puts a person in a corner, pressing on them until they answer in a way that supports his proclaimed truth. Why not give the same courtesy you would want to receive regardless of your personal feelings.
Anyways, again may we be moved to pray for one another and respond in love, rather then prove who is right.
Come on now!
Did he really say “Two goats for a “singular” offering” to make a feeble attempt to show that not all sin offerings die? Is that guy for real? Are Bible basics thrown out the window simply because he is obsessed with disproving what SDA believe?
What happened to studying to “show thyself approved”? people are replacing that with “study to disprove SDA” now. Sad.
@justamessenger4577 these people will literally argue against their own salvation to try to disprove SDAs.
@@FishermensCorner
For real. Makes no sense. All that guy needs to do is read about the sin offerings in Leviticus. They all die. How anyone can argue that is unreal. lol
@@justamessenger4577 yeah if they keep reading in the chapter 17 it directly says that the blood is what covers sin and that the people will no longer sacrifice to Goat demons. It literally describes the second goat being released and not sacrifice as a goat demon
@@FishermensCorner
Chapter 17 huh? I need to check that out. 👍
Still blows my mind that these guys think that not all sin offerings die. Blows my mind bro.
@justamessenger4577 yep, Leviticus 17:11, clearly indicating that blood needs to be spilled which means the second goat has nothing to do with covering our personal sins...... Leviticus 17:7... remember there's no chapters in the original text, so that means we see a direct explanation of the goat being released right after the atonement ceremony... Good Old Goat demons
...yeah but Jesus was killed... soooo he can't be the scapegoat... we can't even get 10 seconds of Mykes without him saying something utterly wrong
Per the Adventists, the scapegoat is in the future when the sins are placed on Satan. *Thus the atonement is not completed yet* .
@NoSundayLawComing per adventist? There's a difference between spiritual atonement and physical atonement... hello second coming of Christ. Also the Messianic Jewish denomination understands that fulfillment of Messiah Ben David comes later, and the Orthodox Christians also recognize that the scapegoat is a work of Christ meaning he sends it out, the second coming will affirm the atonement, and lastly the meaning of atonement means "at one with" God, we are not "at one with" God literally yet, that's why Jesus has to return. Sorry my friend, the scapegoat thing is not originally a Seventh-Day Adventist belief; they simply get blamed for it, an actual physical atonement does come later at the second coming of Christ. Heb 9:28
@@FishermensCorner No matter how you slice it, the SDAs view on the atonement is one of incompleteness.
Hebrew 9:28 _"So Christ, having been offered once _*_to bear the sins_*_ of many, will appear a second time, _*_not to deal with sin_*_ but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him"_ .
In this passage we have Christ bearing our sins already. When He comes the second time He does not deal with sin anymore, because He has already dealt with that. The atonement is completed already.
@NoSundayLawComing yeah let's just skip over the meeting of atonement, let's just skip over that right? It literally says he comes back to "save" us, that salvation, that is complete atonement. Like you directly quoted it... let's also ignore that it has nothing to do at seventh day adventist; they just get blamed for it. Being at 1 with God doesn't happen until he comes back to save us. That's completed atonement, we are spiritually at home today, we are physically atoned by His Promise tomorrow.
@@FishermensCorner Here is EGW's view of the scapegoat, found in chapter 18 of the Great Controversy:
_"It was seen, also, that while the sin-offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, _*_the scape-goat typified Satan_*_ , the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed. When the high priest, by virtue of the blood of the sin-offering, removed the sins from the sanctuary, he placed them upon the scape-goat. _*_When Christ, by virtue of his own blood, removes the sins of his people from the heavenly sanctuary at the close of his ministration, he will place them upon Satan_*_ , who, in the execution of the judgment, must bear the final penalty"_ [E. G. White, The Great Controversy between Christ and Satan from the Destruction of Jerusalem to the End of the Controversy, The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4 (Oakland, CA: Pacific Press, 1884), 266-67.]
And to be sure, *let's NOT skip over the meaning of the atonement* .
Here are five definitions of the atonement I just looked up:
1) Amends or reparation made for an injury or wrong; expiation.
2) An individual's reconciliation with God by means of repentance and confession of one's transgressions.
3) The reconciliation of God and humans brought about by the redemptive life and death of Jesus
4) Reparation for an offense or injury : SATISFACTION
5) The reconciliation of God and humankind through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ.
So given that Satan will actually bear our sin (the "final penalty" per EGW), we can conclude that Jesus has *not yet RECONCILED us to God* . Further Jesus has *not made the full REPARATION for our sin yet* , neither has *He made the SATIFACTION for our sins yet* . All of this counter to the Word of God.
1 John 2:2 *_"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world"_* .
1 John 4:10 _"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and *sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins"_ .
2 Cor 5:18 _"And all things are of God, who _*_hath reconciled us to himself_*_ by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation"*_ ;
Also, you claim *"There's a difference between spiritual atonement and physical atonement"*
Do you mind explaining this difference?
One thing that they are also forgetting is this verse
“And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.”
Hebrews 9:22
The scapegoat is not killed so it cannot be the sin offering
So for the investigative judgment Jesus is continuing to shed his blood over and over to forgive sins?
@@bbsvchicNo, the investigative judgement is to allow the unfallen angels to know who is under the blood and who is not.
@@bbsvchicInvestigative judgement is to cleanse the sanctuary, that is, to cleanse the “record, power and the existence” of sin from God’s people. The day of atonement that high priest killed the first goat was not to represent Jesus sheds blood again, but to perform a ritual mimicking what Jesus did in heavenly sanctuary. That is, there is a time for Him to enter the most holy and to block out the record, power and existence of sins of all who claim to be His people. He still used His blood to enter the most holy, that is, what He already shed on the cross. The investigative judgement is a time to let angels judge if God’s judgement who shall enter heaven is just. The worldly sanctuary’s rituals as types were not perfect, but those were to show the stages of plan of salvation.
@@Vickiehou Colossians 2:14 - Jesus already put away sin once and for all
That is precisely why and how he was to enter into the presence of God, after his sacrifice and then sat down at the right hand of the Father.... there was no more work to be done
Genuinely asking have you read the book of Hebrews in context chapter by chapter? It completely annihilates the investigative judgment. I mean it's just bonkers really to even think you can uphold that doctrine from scripture especially that book.
@@bbsvchic Jesus offered His life once the bible says in Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Amen!!
Isn’t the Baphomet a goat like representation of satan that the church of satan recognizes? But when Adventists say the scapegoat is Satan then we are wrong.
Myles - "This is where SDA's do all kinds of mental gymnastics."...........aka Bible study.
CLEAR AS WATER 👍🏽
Scriptures tells us the wages of sin is death. So if you’re gonna pay for sin, you have to have the right currency. I haven’t been to a store on American soil, where you can buy goods with the euro!
Amen
Thanks again, ADL. What a stubborn interpretation this is - that both goats served as the single sin offering. Adventist need not ever concede to such a bogus claim. To hold to that understanding, one must: 1) Concentrate on Lev 16:5 in isolation, 2) Divorce verse 5 from the overall context of casting lots to determine which goat would be the sin offering, 3)Totally neglect the definition/criteria of a sin offering previously established in texts like Exo 29, Lev 4, and everywhere else it talks about sin offerings, and 4) interpret verses 9 and 10 of Lev 16 with absolutely no respect for what the conjunction "BUT" does with ideas that are mentioned before and after it. Anyone who believes this interpretation, just read Lev 16:9 and 10 with respect to the use of the word, "BUT":
Lev 16:9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD'S lot fell, and offer HIM FOR A SIN OFFERING.
Lev 16:10 BUT the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.
"But" is not the word to use to express inclusiveness; it always contrasts or puts difference between two ideas. Yet we are being told that both are included in the sin offering. Let's continue to pray that Elce, Myles, and others who espouse this can see how foggy and shaky this interpretation really is and accept Bible truth.
Great points. Thanks!
*There are those among professed Christians who do not see much of importance or value in the God-ordained temple services;* - *yet it is true that the gospel plan of salvation as revealed in the New Testament is made much clearer by an understanding of the Old Testament.* - *In fact, it may confidently be said that he who understands the Levitical system of the Old Testament,* - *can much better understand and appreciate the New Testament.* - *The one foreshadows the other and is a type of it.* - *The priests were ministers of God divinely appointed as mediators between God and men, particularly authorized to officiate at the altar and in the service of the sanctuary.*
*In the service of the priesthood three things stand out prominently above the rest:* - *mediation,* - *reconciliation,* - *sanctification.* -*Each of these deserves a special word of emphasis.*
*The priests were first of all mediators.* - *This was pre-eminently their work.* - *Although the sinner might bring the offering, he could not sprinkle the blood or burn the flesh on the altar.* - *Neither could he eat the shewbread, or offer the incense, or even trim the lamps.* - *All this someone else must do for him.* - *Although he could approach the temple,* - *he could not enter it;* - *though he could supply the sacrifice,* - *he could not offer it;* - *though he could kill the lamb,* - *he could not apply the blood.* - *God was accessible to him only through the mediation of the priesthood.* - *He could approach God only in the person of another.* - *All this would strikingly bring to mind the fact that he needed someone to intercede for him.*
*We are reconciled to God by the death of His Son* [Rom.5:10]. - *Reconciliation is effected by blood* [2 Chron.29:24].* - *Into the first apartment of the sanctuary the priest entered day by day to commune with God* [Lev.6:3]. - *There was the holy incense reaching even beyond the veil into the most holy* [Lev.16:12]; - *there was the candlestick emblematic of Him who is the light of the world;* - *the table of the Lord inviting communion; and the sprinkling of the blood.* - *It was a place of drawing near to God -- of fellowship.* - *Through the ministry of the priest forgiveness was extended, reconciliation effected, man brought into communion with God.*
*The whole plan of salvation was laid open to them as far as it could be revealed in types and offerings.* - *Every ceremony tended to impress upon their minds the holiness of God and the sure results of sin.* - *It also taught them the wonderful provision made through the death of the lamb.* - *Although it was a ministration of death, it was glorious in its promise.* - *It told of a redeemer, a sin bearer, a burden sharer, a mediator.* - *It was the gospel in embryo.*
*The first lesson God wanted to teach Israel THROUGH THE SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM WAS THAT SIN MEANS DEATH.* - *Again and again this lesson was impressed upon their hearts.* - *Every morning and evening throughout the year a lamb was offered for the nation.* - *Day after day the people brought their sin offerings, their burnt or thank offerings, to the temple.* - *In each case an animal was slain and the blood was sprinkled in the appointed place.* - *On every ceremony and at every service the lesson was stamped, Sin means death.*
*Through this solemn ritual, that man would be deeply impressed with the heinousness of sin,* - *and would go away from the temple with a firm determination not to sin again.* - *The fact that he had killed an animal would teach him as nothing else could do,* - *that sin means death, and that when anyone sins, the lamb must die.*
*God wished to impress upon Israel was that forgiveness of sin can be obtained ONLY THROUGH CONFESSION AND THE MINISTRATION OF THE BLOOD.* - *This served to impress Israel deeply with the cost of forgiveness.* - *Forgiveness of sin is more than merely overlooking faults.* - *It costs something to forgive; AND THE COST IS A LIFE, EVEN THE LIFE OF THE LAMB OF GOD.*
*Of the final judgment the Revelator says:* - *"I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the book, according to their works."* Rev.20:12. - *"The dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books."* - *The Day of Atonement was a type of that day.* - *There were no books kept in the sanctuary.* - *But there was a record of sin.* - *Every drop of blood on the altar of burnt offering sprinkled in the morning and evening service constituted a record of sins committed.* - *On the horns of the same altar,* - *and also on the holy place, a record of sins forgiven was made by the sprinkling of blood as sinners came with their personal sacrifices to obtain forgiveness.* - *On the Day of Atonement the sins of those who had already obtained forgiveness were blotted out.* - *The others were "cut off."* - *Thus, the sanctuary was cleansed of the record of sin accumulated through the year.* - *This cleansing of the record also effected the cleansing of the people whose sins already had been forgiven.* - *The sins were blotted out.* - *They no longer remain as a witness against the people.* - *Atonement was made, and the people were not under condemnation.*
*THE DAY OF ATONEMENT WAS THE GREAT day in Israel.* - *It was peculiarly holy, and on it no work must be done.* - *The Jews called it Yoma, the day.* - *IT WAS THE KEYSTONE OF THE SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM.* - *Whoever did not on that day afflict his soul, was cut off from Israel.* Lev.23:29. - *The Day of Atonement, occurred on the tenth day of the seventh mouth, called Tishri,* - *about the latter part of our October.* - *The special preparation for this day began ten days earlier.* - *Of this the Jewish Encyclopedia, article "Atonement," says:* - *"The first ten days of Tishri grew to be the ten penitential days of the year intended to bring about a perfect change of heart, and to make Israel like newborn creatures, the culmination being reached on the Day of Atonement when religion's greatest gift, God's condoning mercy, was to be offered to man."* --Vol.11, p.281.
*"The statement is further made that the idea developed also in Jewish circles that on the first of Tishri, the sacred New Year's Day and the anniversary of creation, man's doings were judged and his destiny was decided, and that on the tenth day of Tishri the decree of heaven was sealed."* [Ibid].
*A Jewish conception of what took place on the Day of Atonement is given in the Jewish Encyclopedia as follows:* - *"God, seated on His throne to judge the world, at the same time Judge, Pleader, Expert, and Witness, openeth the Book of Records; it is read, every man's signature being found therein. The great trumpet is sounded; a still, small voice is heard; the angels shudder, saying, This is the day of judgment: for His very ministers are not pure before God. As a shepherd mustereth his flock, causing them to pass under his rod, so doth God cause every living soul to pass before Him to fix the limit of every creature's life and to foreordain its destiny. On New Year's Day the decree is written; on the Day of Atonement it is sealed who shall live and who are to die, etc. But penitence, prayer, and charity may avert the evil decree."* --Id., p.286.
*NO SUPPLEMENT, OR ANY OTHER SACRIFICE, COULD BE REQUIRED.* *If a scapegoat represented Christ bearing away, finally and for all, the sins of His people, we have the bizarre situation.* - *To make this application to the great antitypical service unfolded in the book of Hebrews, we would have Christ [the High Priest] placing believers' sins upon Himself [the scapegoat].* --- Not only is this inconsistent; we have the further problem of it thus appearing as though the Calvary sacrifice was deficient, or that some other figure was necessary to illustrate its sufficiency.* - *The high priest did not lay hands on an animal used in this or any other ritual during the days of the atonement.* - *That was the only time that hands were laid upon the animal.* - *Because shedding blood was necessary for a sin offering, in what way could an animal kept alive be considered such an offering?* - *IN WHAT RESPECT WOULD IT REPRESENT CHRIST?* -- *To say that the scapegoat, which played a part only after the atonement was complete [Lev. **16:20**-21], represented Christ IS TO BLUR THE ATONEMENT,* - *to suggest it is not sufficient, that something else was needed to complete it and make it effective.* - *SUCH AN IDEA IS NOT BIBLICAL.* - *DID a SECOND christ walk away at the cross while the Messiah died?* - *ABSOLUTELY NOT.*
*Pivotal points:* - *Lots were cast Lev 16:8, and the lot fell on the Lord’s goat [v9]. Similarly, lots were cast for Christ's garments [Mat **27:35**].* - *The Lord’s goa[t] [singular], a sin offering* [Lev 16:8-10 cf. Num 28:15,22,30; Num 29:5,11,16,19,22,25,28,31,34,38, *only one goat sacrificed to make atonement.* - *By the time this final part of the Day of Atonement ritual had arrived, ALL BLOOD SACRIFICES HAD BEEN MADE.* - *The "Lord's goat" HAD BEEN SLAINED AND ITS BLOOD SPRINKLED BEFORE THE MERCY SEAT [v14,15].* - *This sacrifice atoned for all the sins of the people [v16,17,19,21,24,33,34].* - *This expiation was NOT inadequate, partial, incomplete, or needing any augmentation.* - *IT WAS COMPLETE, FINISHED.* - *"When he has made an END OF ATONING for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting [where the sins of the people were recorded], and the altar, he shall bring the live goat"* [Lev. 16:20].
*No supplement, no other sacrifice, could be required.*
*“without shedding of blood is no remission.”* [Hebrews 9:22].
I agree with miles on one thing that SDA'S do gymnastic with the truth while he has the world cop in lies
Nice try Milly and Sammy boy 😂😂
You guys are fantastic! Raised by God and led by the Holy Spirit to work the harvest when it is most needed, for time is soon to run out… Myles and Halal, if you should stop resisting the Holy Spirit, so much light would reflect from you. Stop resisting truths.
@1:30 in the video, Leviticus 16:5 does indeed say “…2 kids of the goats for a sin offering…” This text does not however say that they were both offered as such even though they were both selected for the same purpose, that is either goat could be a potential choice at the selection, or the casting of lots. We see this example with the two Jesus’s in the gospel of (Matthew 27:16…) Chist was selected to be a sin offering, and Barabbas let go. ( He probably went hiding in the desert because he escaped death lol. Don’t quote me on that one). The Bible is simple if you simply read it. 2 Goats for a sin offering is like an introduction; this language or context is used here because the casting of lots had yet to be done. If the animals were different and God had already chosen which would be kill without the casting of lots, perhaps Myles and Halal, and many others would be right. We can no longer afford to resist the teachings of the Holy Spirit who instructs us in all truths.
This young man Miles. He talks fast and with conviction, but he is wrong. His knowledge of the scripture is superficit He wants to insert in the scriptures.His ideas and his interpretation. I'm going to be praying for This young man
Admin I'm continue to asking you to do a debate with myles stop propagating myles here
Are you new here or something? We've already addressed that multiple times. Myles cancelled a scheduled debate and continues to say He will not engage with ADL. Go and watch a few more videos.
So I was curious, since the law mentions plenty of times that the sacrifices presented to the Lord had to be blemish free, does Satan meet those requirements?
No, he doesn't. Keep in mind, though, that neither of the two goats were designated their particular roles yet until lots were cast. Since they did not know which would represent the Lord's goat, obviously both had to be taint free to start the process. Later on, both were tainted with sin, yet only one died.
The scriptures say that Satan sinned. It also says that Christ BECAME sin for us. One willingly sinned. The other never sinned but willingly became sin. Yet only Christ was sacrified. Satan was not. Which one of the two goats was sacrificed?
@@AdventDefenseLeague Hey thanks for answering my question. Only 1 animal died. When I get time I’ll read the text over to understand it better.
Also what do you mean to get at by saying both were tainted?
By taint I meant "unblemished."
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 5. - And he shall take of the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats. It was necessary that the sacrifice offered for a person or class of persons should be provided by the offerer or offerers. The two kids of the goats, or rather the two he-goats, constituted together but one sin offering. This is important for the understanding of the sequel". But since SDAs do not know who the sequel is you will never understand Lev 16
Did you even watch the video response?
@@AdventDefenseLeague Isa 53:6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. That is who bore my sins, who will bear yours?
Why you totally ignore my question to just ask another question?
There’s a type and anti-type. You seem to have difficulty understanding in clear text that there is a sacrifice and also a symbolic transfer of sin onto the scapegoat. When you understand the physical practice of the Jewish nation, you will understand what will happen to sin and how it’s transferred to the back originator, meaning Satan at the end. The parallel is amazing and easy to comprehend.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueyes I did. Now you can answer mine?
Casting lots between Jesus and Satan, are you guys implying that Satan had a 50% chance of dying for the sins of men 😮
@@thejourneybook8015 no
Forget about Miles . Time to focus on the whole of leviticus 16 . It teaches that we have righteous by emulating Jesus not because of Jesus . Why would God's Son offer a heifer as a sin offering for His Family i.e. for God our Father and His Son ?
ALSO what does a burnt offering mean( your answer should know why God had no choice for the killing of Aaron's two eldest)
Also why was the goat an sin offering for the congregation ( answer should include Genesis 3v15 ).
Miles' probation will close when it closes for the SDA which is when the number 144,000 is reached .Miles won't be given a second chance when the 144,000 preach the second message .
Read Hebrews 9 and ask can any doctrine that dismisses Moses be true . ( the red heifer represents Jesus ' divinity). The mind of Jesus and the name of the Father is love described three times in the last chapter of John . The three times mention caveats that without that love you can not be saved by the preaching of any one of Rev 14.
So here's my question? What type of offering was the scapegoat?
The scapegoat fulfills the type of atonement that you see in Numbers 25:1-13. Purging out all the wickedness.
As in the type, after the high priest comes out of the most holy place he places the sins on the head of the scapegoat and sends him to the wilderness, likewise when Jesus comes out of the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary, He will place the guilt of all sins on the originator of sin, the devil, and send him to the wilderness never to come back in the camp of the people of God.
You guys have it so wrong, when we pray and say lord please take away my sins, are we in the same breath saying lord please let Satan take away my sin ? Both Goat represents Jesus Christ, the goat was killed for our sins (Jesus died for our sins) and the goat that took away our sins in the wilderness. Jesus Christ, if you want to include Satan in the atonement work then that’s on you, this doctrine is one of the most blasphemous things the SDA teaches.
Yet you are willing to use God's name in vain and that somehow justifies your disagreement. I don't understand that. The manner you used His Holy name was not in a way to honor Him but as an expression of your frustration...
Satan is making the atonement for Adventists. That is the reason why we need to pray for our dear Adventist friends and family!
@@distinctivediyer524 That’s exactly my point. It is so clear in the Bible, but SDA’s must twist it to fit what their prophetess said. I pray many will be delivered from this deception as I once was deceived as well.
@@life.after.adventism I thank God that critics as you are the ones leading me to the Bible
I hope one day you'll open your eyes to the truths
@@AlexKimutai-i9iI am very glad that you’re studying your Bible closer. May God bless you while you do that! And I thank Jesus for already opening my eyes to the truth. I used to be deceived. But studying the word of God and Holy Spirit guiding me has led me out of adventism and opening my eyes to the truth.
You believe in two Atonement’s. The Bible only teaches one.
“Satan is making the atonement for Adventists”
Can you post a source or citation for that statement please?
Verse 10: But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord to be used for making atonement by sending it into the wilderness as a scapegoat.
So who’s making atonement?
For me it’s Jesus.
For you? #demonicdoctrinesofsda
You would assign a lost goat in the wilderness with no expiatory value (Heb 9:26 says sins were "put away" by "sacrifice"), who bears sins ALREADY ATONED FOR by the Lord's goat, and who also has been identified historically as a fallen angel... to Jesus? How dare you.
@@life.after.adventism
The atonement the scapegoat makes is NOT the same as the atonement made by the lords goat.
The scapegoat is the way the sins from the sanctuary were removed from the camp. That removal is a form of atonement but not the atonement Jesus made for us.
@@AdventDefenseLeague How dare you butcher the Bible? How dare you say that the law isn’t fulfilled yet? How dare you say that this part WILL BE in future fulfilled BY THE SATAN????
Jesus already fulfilled it all!!! That’s how I dare. But how dare you?
@justamessenger4577 please teach him 🙏
@@justamessenger4577 So there are different atonement’s??? If that’s not a huge red flag that makes SDA cultish, then I don’t know what is??? To what length must one go to defend EGW, instead to defend Jesus and the Bible???!!!
Amen