8:47 honestly, I think that bit is just a retcon. There’s no way Kishimoto knew that many chapters in advance that he was going to have Minato’s soul trapped by the Reaper Death Seal.
The itachi statement literally can be taken as both which it should he care so much for the village, but he’s also intelligent enough to understand what circumstances come, what causes and effects come from the actions that are being taken by the shinobi of that time. And even further down the line.
Bruh Lee was shown channeling chakra into his arms in literally his first appearance in the manga lmao. All taijutsu involves using chakra to reinforce the body, that's why Lee has superhuman strength and speed. Anyone who thinks he can't use chakra is illiterate.
@kgeddesballsout6807 It was an off handed comment from... Sasuke, I think? When he used his sharingan he saw Lee's chakra. It was basically about how his chakra or chakra Paths were weird. But even I'm not sure. Hoped this helped a little.
7:40 THANK YOU for bringing up this point about Naruto forging his own destiny by breaking the cycle of Ashura and Indra incarnates fighting. I rarely ever see anyone bring this up.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
I think chidori and rakiri are the same in the way rasengan and big ball rasengan are. Kakashi has increased the shape transformation and nature transformation to S tier levels. I do like the idea of encountering lightning gave Kakashi better knowledge of lightning release on some black flash ish.
But by that logic Sasuke's Chidori in Shippuden should be called "Raikiri", as he shows much more mastery in shape transformation than Kakashi with Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Senbon, Chidori Eisou and so on. I also don't know where this information comes from that Kakashi increased the degree of shape transformation and that is the basis for Raikiri being different from Chidori. It might come from a databook? But going by manga canon there's nothing to indicate Raikiri isn't just a nickname for Chidori when Kakashi uses it. The old databooks might have classified the Raikiri as S-Rank and Chidori as A-Rank because Kakashi was stronger than Sasuke at that time. Sasuke correcting Deidara probably just means he is asserting himself as a Chidori user as "Raikiri" is a trademark for Kakashi. It's similar to the different times in Part 1 when enemies had outdated information and referred to Shikamaru's Shadow Posession with a different name. It also happens with Shikaku and the Shadow Neck Binding Technique IRRC. It's not that the enemies were referring to different jutsu, they were just using their old name.
@@giannixxNo, there is a difference in power between the two I believe. One just packs a heavier punch then the other and is quiet , Sasuke just managed to make the base chidori more versatile. But the quiet part is what definitely separates the two imo.
The part that people refer to as "Neji was right" is in regards to him talking about how those who become Hokage were born for that role. They are essentially destined for greatness. Naruto at the start of the series is basically a black sheep who has to compete with characters who are more talented than he is, which is why a lot of fans root for him. However as time goes on and more is revealed about Naruto, such as him not only being the son of the 4th Hokage but also that the Uzumaki are descended from the Sage of the Six Paths, just like the Uchiha, that Naruto is also the child of two separate prophecies (which according to the Toad Sage always come true) and is the inheritor/reincarnation of Asura, the more it becomes evident that Naruto WAS always destined for greatness. While Neji was wrong in other aspects, he was unwittingly correct in this one.
And also, being the reincarnation of Asura does not mean you are destined to be powerful or great, it means you will clash with the reincarnation of Indra and one (or both) of you will fall, continuing the cycle of hatred
@@intoxicz I'm pretty sure it's one of those "cheat" prophecies where if it doesn't come true, it's because you were wrong, not the prophecy. e.g. -Nagato is the child of prophecy! -I mean MINATO is the child of prophecy! -Crap Nagato/Minato didn't bring great revolution to the world. Was the prophecy wrong? -Well no, that is because Nagato/Minato wasn't the child of prophecy, Naruto was. Duh.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
"Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to. "Overcoming Hatred(something the ninja world fosters)" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent. And if you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), I don't know what to tell you.
Lee's lost literally proved Hard work doesn't beat talent...Idk why people thought thats what the series was about. Even in real life...the Talented who Work Hard succeed beyond all. And Naruto was shown to be talented when he mastered Shadow Clones at a young age, literally no one but elite Jonin were expected to do it.
It was way more than 1 arc. It was every arc until the war arc that it was about hard work and training for the main characters. Even sasuke had to train his ass off
@virn333 Training is obvious, its a battle shounen. But it isn't about hardwork trumping talent when everyone that trained there ass off was also talented. That's my basic point.
Great video Six, this is one of those videos that definitely needs to exist because with all the jokes, misinformation, anime filler adding things, and probably not having read Naruto (or certain parts of it) in a long time so they believe what the general community opinion is. In other videos he briefly talks about other misconceptions, so definitely check out more of his content if you haven't.
the main problem is his skin color. It's the same as KCM Sage Mode. So while his eyes are different, his skin, the much bigger asset, is KCM Sage mode colored
11:48 I think what people meant is the showcase of hand sign turned into a novelty instead something that shouldve been kept normalized. Half the time, after part 1, the anime doesnt show handsign and you can clearly see the characters whip out their ninjutsu without any sign weaving.
Yeah it's not that ninja stopped using hand seals, it's that they use them less frequently and extremely inconsistently. Like, why does Sasuke sometimes still perform the seals for chidori, but sometimes he clearly performs it seal-lessly? I don't know, it's never explained. Nobody knows, that's why there's so much fanon headcanons lol.
this gets worse in boruto. since its a monthly manga i dont keep it with it too much, id rather wait a year or two and catch up but it seems more prevalent in boruto as well. cant remember if it was mnaga or anime but there was a scene where orochimaru deleted someone with a jutsu without using any hand signs. too me it looked like a dust/particle style jutsu but no hand signs were used and the scene just felt so off because of it
1:39 the naruto ost in the back always makes me focus. I think it's because whenever i hear it in naruto i know i have to focus so maybe my brain associates it. I should try listening to this during work
funny to get such a video from the guy who thinks the itachi sasuke shuriken scene was genjutsu "if shadow clones always split your chakra in half, you would only be able to make one"
7:01 THANK YOU BRO!!!!, this part about kishimoto replacing madara with Kaguya because "Madara is too strong" makes ZERO sense, and many people have been saying this for some reason, this is very close to the jumping on the bandwagon fallacy.
@@SoupRongan kaguya is a not a bit stronger. it literally states she is an an entire different level than madara when she first appears. madara is an ant in comparison.
@@raiden3013We never saw Madara's full strength, but Kakashi's power difference between having single MS and DMS was so huge even if you ignore the abilities. the same thing happening with Madara would also be on another level if it were to have gotten the chance.
@@SoupRongan kaguya came with a plan to kill isshiki and stopped endless wars and fought her sons who both are excellent fighters. she knows how to fight
Obito is not natural. He may be one of the strongest Shinobi of all time but he has been roided out on Hashirama cells, and has the Uchiha DNA for six paths powers, since the age of 14. I've seen people say it's a plot hole he's so strong but that's blatantly wrong not to mention how busted Kamui is.
Fugaku scaling to Minato comes from the statement that both of them had a flee on sight order during the 3rd GSW, and they were the only two to have that order.
uchiha have genjutsu that works just by looking into your eyes he had the best sharingan in his clan, he’s doesn’t need to be as strong as minato to get people to run
Random but i love ur thumbnails they have a distinct touch that always gets me excited when i see em. I think thumbnails are a huge piece of the TH-cam puzzle
Another spin on the Rinne Rebirth situation could be that it's more taxing to bring back people who have been dead for some time. I may be remembering wrong but the destruction of the leaf happened in one day. Everyone's been dead for a few hours so it's not too taxing since their souls haven't been gone for too long. Madara has been dead for over 16 years so it makes sense for it to kill Obito. It also adds to the reason Nagato wasn't able to bring back Jiraiya.
Its definitely possible but it doesnt seem to align with any other method of bringing somone back after they have actually died. You can sacrifice life force like with what chiyo did or rinne rebirth You can edo tensei them which other ignores everything except if you have dna and that persons soul is not stuck somewhere it cant be removed from. You can definitely stall death based on length of time the person is in a near death state. In this way it makes more sense for it to be a uzumaki lifeforce statement as opposed to a time statement. Uzumaki can survive someone extracting bijuu. This is implied to like instantly kill almost every other jinchuriki. Naruto lived in a near death state. Kushina gave birth that same day and also held the full 9 ninetails. And i dont think we have concrete evidence but one can assume that Mito survived kurama being removed from her for a period of time as well.
Maybe a user needs both eyes to unlock their true potential. That was emphasized a lot throughout the series too. Nagato had both Rinnegan, so the drawback that could cause death, which was what happened, was simply the lack of chakra. Obito on the other hand could only use one eye and he stated that having both was too much for him. So using Rinne Rebirth with just one eye would lead to death, because the true potential isn't there, while if he had both, he would not die. This is my take.
I think the misconception people dont get is that Neji vs Naruto was not about Hard work vs Talent. I think it was actually over the fact that Neji believes everyone's state or future is pre-defined and unchangable only because of the class system in his clan that put him, who is far more talented than Hinata below her only because she was born from the older brother. His Uncle. I feel like people think the "hard work vs talent" thing is the theme because of Goku & Vegeta. Naruto was never incapable of ninjutsu. He just didnt take it seriously. Yet from the first day we see him already master transformation and shadow clone without much effort. Naruto tends to master things when he's serious. Like against Mizuki. Naruto was just looked down upon because of his immaturity and the 9 nails, and from that reputation Neji argued that, that is who Naruto is and always would be. Naruto only disproved he was not a loser because of that reputation to Neji who was well respected as a genius on the levels of Sasuke. Naruto wasnt. To me this makes more sense because Naruto ends up beating his reputation and becomes Hokage and helps save the world.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
@@thewiseyounglad2699 W. also you didn't need to go so in-depth neji was debunked by hiashi in part one. Neji developed a viewpoint that the branch family was destined to serve and die for the main branch and are essentially slaves that bend to their will. Because his father hizashi died for hiashi. But it wasn't the truth. hiashi was going to sacrifice himself but hizashi knocked him out and chose to die for hiashi.
@Vascody I just found it off putting that Rock Lee and the Chunin Exams were SO popular that people gained misconceptions about basic discussion points that the characters themselves talk about.
@@therealprophet2488 They are literally the same, Sasuke always use the hand signs from Raikiri but always calls it Chidori, Raikiri it's just a nickname for the Chidori
@@therealprophet2488 This has confused me for years. And I have spent a ton of time looking into it, from everything I could find in manga, databooks etc. Chidori is the basic jutsu, everyone knows how it works obviously. You hold lightning in your hand, rush the opponent and strike them. Raikiri has a bit more finesse, and (at least as the series progressed and made them distinct) a raikiri is performed with your finger tips not your palm (similar to the Raikage strikes), this requires better chakra control (as the blade has to envelope your hand, rather than being a "ball" you grasp) and much like the Raikage techniques, striking with the tips of your fingers gives your higher penetration and killing potential, since the impact point is far smaller. (Which lines up with Kakashi cutting lightning I guess?) Just my own head cannon.
I still have no idea why Sasuke never used the Naraka path since it would be extremely useful... literally any time he or naruto got fucked up before his rinnegan got stabbed out by boruto. Seriously, the Naraka path would legit just recover the two of them and they'd be back in action like nothing happened.
Because the writer of Boruto forgot that it existed? Maybe he didn't consider that Naruto and Sasuke shouldn't just be stronger but also have new skills? While Boruto isn't completely terrible it definitely has problems such as Sasuke just never using his rinnegan abilities for some reason.
@@ghadyjardak7147Well it's hard to tell because Sasuke was still new to the rinnegan in Naruto shippuden. Then those abilities became inconvenient to the narrative of Boruto.
at least in the anime the misconception that black zetsu him self was the one who killed Madera, i've talk to many people about this for some reason people think madera was already dead when kaguya was revived which isn't true. he was still alive all the way up to the point where the 10 tails got ripped from his body which then he has a brief convo with hashirama, also black zetsu by himself is not madera level he was in control of obito's body at the time and he stabbed him in the back catching him when his guard was down.
I'm so glad to finally hear someone discuss the shadow clone issue. So many people misunderstand, "Chakra evenly distributed between clones" as I made 4 clones so now each of us has 20% of my chakra. No! I used 10% of my chakra to make 10 clones, so now each one has 1% of my chakra.
I have 3 misconceptions which I can go over and explain if anyone asks why 1. Thinking Hagoromo and Madara were on the same level based off Hagoromo telling Naruto & Sasuke that Madara has his power and is trying to obtain his mother’s 2. People thinking EMS Sasuke doesn’t get stronger during the war and not being relative to KCM2 + Sage Naruto by the end of their fight against Juubito 3. People thinking you can reverse summon out of the kamui dimension or a dimension in general
1. He literally said he is approaching his power, he already has all hagaromos abilities, so it's referring to strength. 2. Ems Sasuke isn't relative, EMS Sasuke with Curse mark from Jugo is. 3. You can, reverse summon is just the opposite of summoning, which occurs from drawing a creature from a different dimension.
@@kakuzugoated873 1. No he's referring to abilities. In that exact moment, Hagoromo was referencing the fact that Madara was close to gaining all his abilities (at the time Madara had 1 rinnegan and the juubi inside of him). Then said he that he was close to obtaining his mother's, that being the 9-tomoe rinnegan or rinnesharingan. But why is it that he's referring to abilities? We know this is the case by two important things: first is the scaling and two is the actual text and context. The scaling is quite simple. For Kaguya to EVEN APPEAR, Madara who already had a juubi + Hashi's dna & sage power + his own chakra had to get more than a JUUBI level of chakra forced into him. Sasuke literally says this chakra that's being sucked into Madara (pause) was more than that of a juubi. This is for her to even APPEAR. She then absorbs more chakra from those in the infinite tsukuyomi and her other dimensions (Momo can do the same so this is just a trait of the Otsutsuki to take in chakra from the dimensions they control plus Kaguya can merge with nature) and gets EXPONENTIALLY faster and stronger yet Naruto & Sasuke can still somewhat combat with her and damage her (along with DMS Kakashi and Sakura for one hit). Sasuke & Naruto already knew that Madara would not be the "final boss" but would be Kaguya which is the main reason Hagoromo gave them power. Also, the main reason as to why Hagoromo couldn't just deal with his mother himself was mainly because well, he's a ghost, but also having died he is in control of the samsara plane (connecting to his rinnegan). Essentially in the world of the Naruto, the plane where chakra connects others and the world. Obito understood this and that was why he was able to give Kakashi power except compared to Hagoromo who controls that plane, could only be temporary. Also, not only is it literally stated that what Hagoromo gave them are gifts, but it's his powers/abilities. Hagoromo gave Naruto & Sasuke 3 things. The first is HIS chakra. His chakra is six paths chakra (likewise Hamura's). He also gave them the six paths yin & yang power seals. Lastly, he gave them their six paths reincarnate birthrights and upgraded versions of each directly stated either by the characters themselves or the databook as being gifts and Hagoromo's abilities. This for Naruto being six paths sage power and the upgraded version being six paths sage mode. For Sasuke being the rinnegan and the upgraded version being the 6-tomoe rinnegan. Next is simply the text. The word used in this sentence 力 ”chikara" can be defined as power, ability, force. Interesting cause the word 能力 "nouryoku" can be defined as ability, capacity and the word 強い "tsuyoi" pretty much has one meaning and that is strong/strength. Given the text of the sentence can be translated as (I've been studying Japanese for a couple years now and while I'm not fluent, I certainly am a lot closer than a majority. That entire panel can be translated as (this is Hagoromo talking): "Now (or Currently) Madara is like my mother Kaguya." "Now that he's finished as Indra's reincarnate, he has the power of the ten tails like me." (or He's not Indra's reincarnate having the power of the ten tails like me) "Even now he's trying to get closer to the power of my mother Kaguya" Now AGAIN context matters. He is not saying that his strength is close to Kaguya. He then on the next couple panels talks directly about the infinite tsukuyomi and what it does. All Hagoromo is saying is that, Madara's power/abilities are getting to a point where Kaguya's potential revival may happen. The before panels talk about this as well that he has no longer become Indra's reincarnate and the day he stopped being Indra's reincarnate technically is when he awakened the rinnegan by merging Asura & Indra's chakra which is a derivative of Hagoromo's chakra Conclude, at best you can argue that Madara was approaching ghost Hagoromo power but even then considering what he could give to Naruto & Sasuke without even being a juubi jinchuriki + base Otsutsuki powers (which was enough to seal Kaguya & the juubi) + gifted abilities that he would then pass to Naruto & Sasuke in 6-tomoe rinnegan & six paths sage mode, it's simply how one would interpret it given context
@@kakuzugoated873 2. This is pretty blatant that he is. Jugo's curse mark simply allows Sasuke's susano'o to bypass the ninjutsu nullification. It has nothing to do with Sasuke's eyes. I say this because EMS Sasuke and Bijuu Sage Naruto EQUALLY track, attack and react to Juubito at the same speed & strength while also (along with Jugo which is an impressive feat for him) TANKING Juubito's attack. There's a common misconception that Sasuke gets pissed at seeing Mastered KCM2 Naruto. It was actually at Bijuu Sage Naruto he gets pissed. But it's for the reason of how his ideals are at the time. He wants to be alone and fix the world his way and through power. He sees Naruto as one who conflicts this and most of all, he knows that Naruto won't give up and seeing how strong Naruto is infuriates him cause he knows Naruto he'll have to cut down first in order to reach his goals seeing Naruto's ideals and strength. It's funny people forget just a couple moments later while Juubito is talking down to Naruto and the entire alliance loses faith even to what Hashi is saying, Sasuke charges ahead of Naruto AGAIN at that point in the war arc. Simply put, at every moment in the war, Sasuke was either always ahead of matching Naruto. The accumulation of this pre-six paths is the fact Sasuke can do the majestic attire susano'o, which is literally perfect susano'o armor wrapped around Kurama or Kurama Mode. This means, he reached ANOTHER stage of power & strength beyond the sage susano'o, making perfect susano'o armor. This all the while that Naruto's Sage Kurama Avatar was being boosted by Minato's yin Kurama to the point it took Minato completely out of KCM for a bit until the tug-o-war where everyone was giving Naruto & Sasuke strength
@@kakuzugoated873 This is literally the translation of the summoning jutsu from the first databook: "This is a kind of Space-Time Ninjutsu, allowing the user to summon any living being with whom they signed a contract in blood, at any time and place they desire. The summoned creature will obey the user with its life, helping in every situation, whether it be fighting or fleeing. The user smears their own blood on the hand they signed the contract with and kneads chakra by doing [hand] seals. Then by turning the palm of that hand to the place they want to summon, they call forth a subordinate they can rely on." First thing is the creatures that are summoned aren't in another dimension. They are in separate lands somewhere on the Naruto world. You can literally travel to the 3 sage regions or to where the Monkey King Enma lives among others. The creatures also all use chakra and like every creature on the Naruto earth all has chakra points. Simply we know you can't reverse summon due to the fact that kamui it's stated no one can escape once trapped and Sasuke wasn't able to escape before the Danzo fight when he wanted to (he was demanding Obito to leave) and at that point he already had done the reverse summon Also, Team 7 couldn't reverse summon out of Kaguya's genesis dimension and needed ghost Hagoromo + the help of the former Gokage to summon them & the 9 bijuu & Madara. It is a space-time ninjutsu though and higher levels of space-time ninjutsu theoretically can bypass dimensions. This being the Flying Thunder God (which I would argue could easily escape the kamui dimension or other dimensions) or Code's claw marks or karma even while space-time dojutsu can as well like the rinnegan's space-time technique that the Otsutsuki and Sasuke have or kamui or Amenominaka and Kaguya's Yomotsu Hirasaka. Space-time ninjutsu we know can bypass barriers and that space-time ninjutsu with their own dimensions can be synchronized and gain access to others. Sasuke has done this accessing all of Kaguya's dimensions, a few of Momoshiki's and Isshiki's dimensions too. Obito did this with Kaguya's genesis dimension on his own and then with her other dimensions with the help of Byakugou Seal Sakura. Otsutsuki/karma seal users seem to do this pretty casually, equal or even better than Sasuke at his peak
@@emssasukeisunderrated7946 1. You don't need both eyes for all of hagaromos abilities, it's states that with one eye you get all 6 paths abilities, with obito and madara both having all the powers. And with Kaguya he's referencing him tryna use the God tree, as the God tree is what bore the Chakra fruit, which is a power boost. If we go by scaling, hagoromo scales to a featless kaguya. When kaguya came back she had become the ten tails jinchuriki instead of just controlling it, plus madaras Chakra and hashirama cells.
OH MY GOD. DUDE. *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS* 8:02 I still CONTINUE to need to explain to people what the fight between Naruto and Neji was truly about, and why it in fact DOESN'T contradict the themes of the series. I was really hoping you'd touch upon this in the video, but I'm so glad you actually did lmao. You are a legend man
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
@@thewiseyounglad2699 oh, lmao. Thanks! That makes more sense. Btw I was referring to when you said "BUT! You still disagree with me. Why?" Anyhow I read your entire reply and you did a great job explaining just how Naruto as a series doesn't contradict its themes and why Neji is still wrong. 👍 so yeah, awesome counterargument man!!
I feel like the circumstances and how awakening the Mangekyo Sharingan works should be addressed, especially considering the controversy around Sarada’s Mangekyo
Let's talk about Lee, though my first post should be enough to know where he stands in relation to both Naruto and the story, so I'll leave it with this: While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring). Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
Another misconception people are bringing up is Sasuke having no chakra by the time Deidara releases his C0 bomb, thus thinking him being able to summon Manda and escaping the attack should not be possible. This is often brought up by people, who are trying to argue that Deidara was stronger than Sasuke and Sasuke winning only due to plot(?) For one, Sasuke NEVER stated to have no chakra. Only Deidara did (he assumed so), and he was proven wrong a couple of times during that fight on its own. Sasuke fell down to his knees, however that still doesn't say anything explicit about his amount of chakra, but only his health. On top of that... literally everything is plot. You can't use that argument in a debate about powerscaling. Edit: another thing to consider is the fact that it's totally possible for Sasuke to act that quickly. Remember him evading explosions by flying upwards, swapping himself with nearby objects or bringing out a giant white snake? Yeah, that speed of his was consistently shown.
@@andrepayne4349plus jiraya while severally nerfed could still summon on chakra could still summon gammabunta, the misconception is Naruto using the nine tails to summon gambunta , , summoning is not all about chakra , sure more chakra bigger summon but is also about chakra control and targeting the summon u want , if bigger chakra equals bigger summon Naruto would have been able summon something larger than a tadpole , bc it was confirmed by ebisu Naruto using way more chakra for a jutsu than necessary
I'm glad to say that I knew pretty much everyone of those except the Rarikiri and Chidori weren't the same thing, I never thought about to be honest and summed up to Kakashi's PTSD caused to change the name from Chidori to Raikiri and I the amount of people who said they stopped using handsigns just must of not watched the show bc even Boruto they use handsigns all the time but anyway 🔥vid and keep up the great work
Now I can, because Lee and the chunin exams were SO popular, understand why one would think that the overarching theme of the series is "Hard work trumping talent" instead of "Overcoming hatred." Unless you believe that there can be multiple overarching themes to a series instead of one, I'll compare and contrast the two with every arc, starting with: 1. The prologue - We see Naruto's position within the village and how he's treated with loathing and isolation. I believe his interaction with Mizuki and Iruka is a perfect example of one overcoming hatred against him to see the good in Naruto, while the other falls deeper into it to the point that they take drastic action(like trying to use and kill him). Overcoming talent wasn't even a point here, as Naruto learned the shadow clone jutsu fairly quickly(and couldnt learn the clone jutsu because his chakra control was shit due to his large amounts of chakra) 2. The Land of Waves - Haku grew up in a situation similar to Naruto, being hated for the power he possessed. Instead of choosing the path of vengeance, Haku fought because he loved Zabuza, and paired with Zabuza's final actions, Naruto became inspired to model his ninja way after them. Haku set the precedent of introducing characters that would reflect Naruto himself, not based on talent but instead on how far into hatred they had fallen. There is a reason why Haku, who didn't fall to hatred, was such an inspiration to Naruto. Now, I'll talk about the theme of overcoming talent. There isn't one. Naruto uses the 9 Tails power(which many of you believe goes against the theme of the Chuunin exams) by this point to take down a genius, not his own power 3. The Chunin Exams- The main theme of the Chunin exams is overcoming talent with hard work, but overcoming hatred is also present here. Gaara is a representation of what Naruto could have been if he fell into the cycle, and Naruto began to fear him after that because of the similarities the two share. I believe that it was this arc that Naruto also expressed the hatred HE used to have for the village in the past(something we later figure out he still has with the waterfall of truth). On top of that, the MAIN point of this arc was to present a psuedo war between the nations using the Genin to show off their future military power. If this doesnt foster hatred(and a long list of other fucked up shit), I dont know what else does 4. Sand Invasion arc(do people consider this a separate arc to the Chuunin exams?) - Much of the same thing with the parallels between Naruto and Gaara, but with the addition of Naruto using the 9 Tails power to summon Gamabunta to fight Shukaku. I don't believe hard work trumping talent was really reinforced here 5. Tsunade arc - Naruto learned the Rasengan WAY faster than the Toad Sage Jiraiya(could he be a genius?). He worked hard just to fail but succeeded in the end due to thinking outside of the box. Meanwhile, Orochimaru felt hatred towards the Leaf and wanted to heal his hands to continue his path of destruction, yet was taken down with the help of Tsunade, who overcame her hatred via loss of her loved ones due to Naruto simply being there for her in her time of need 6. Sasuke retrieval arc - Naruto had two main fights, one with Kimimaru and one with Sasuke. For both fights, he used the 9 Tails to try and gain the upper hand(though Lee came in to represent hard work and got bodied until Gaara showed up, so there you go, I guess). The main point of the arc was a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke, as the latter is falling into hatred for his vengeance Now, many believe that hatred only rose to prominence as the main theme in Shippuden, spitting on everything that OG Naruto set up regarding overcoming talent with hardwork, but that is not the case. I could go over the shippuden arcs like I did here with the OG arcs, but seeing as overcoming talent with hard work is RARELY seen there in comparison to hatred, which is much more pronounced at that point, I'm simply going to move on.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
Hashirama should have more chakra than Naruto now. In 4th war Hashirama said Naruto with half the 9 tails had about the same chakra as he did so Naruto with no 9 tails should have less. That doesn't mean he beats Delta though
@2406west Naruto gets stronger. Even without Kurama, Naruto probably has more Chakra than hashirama and would beat hashirama. Naruto is an Uzumaki and has an anti durability jutsu. Naruto is just also fast in base now.
@@gogomarioloshi sorry but what delta can do against the titanic statue that hasirama can make that 1. is is big it can pick up kurama like a little puppy, 2. So strong it can punch madara sussano off kurama 3. is so durable that it can tank a biju bombs made by kurama?
It seems yall are under the impression that chakra = strength and that's not the case. Just because you have less chakra than someone doesn't mean you're weaker than them. Naruto has more chakra than kakashi in part 1 but would still get folded. Also getting stronger does not mean you get more chakra either
@@gogomarioloshi ok and Hashirama is a Senju who also have lots of Chakra lol. Getting stronger does not mean you gain chakra. If he had as much chakra as Hashirama with the 9 tails then without it he should for sure have less
I don't think you've got the Shadow Clone misconception right. Naruto's massive chakra is solely why he can make thousands of clones without dying, as they ALWAYS use a percentage equal to the number of clones. The user and the clones always have equal chakra to one another. If say Tenten has 10 chakra, and she uses a shadow clone, she has 5 chakra left and her shadow clone has 5 chakra. Now we know that hitting 0 chakra kills you, so Tenten and her clone can't use any jutsu that costs 5 or more chakra. NARUTO however, has 1000 chakra, so if he makes even 100 clones, he himself and each of his clones now has as much chakra as Tenten does in base, so he can use any jutsus she could before she made clones. THAT'S what's so important. If he makes 10 clones, he can still fire of jutsus that require incredible amounts of chakra, because the amount of chakra that goes into the jutsu does not increase exponentially with how much chakra you have.
Plus I believe it's stated that once a clone dissipates, the chakra (as well as the knowledge) is even distributed back amongst the caster and the remaining clones. Really weird thing that most people forget-- Shadow Clones have their own freaking souls. o_O Hiruzen's clones both had souls when he used them to capture Hashirama's and Tobirama's Edo Tenseis when he fought against Orochimaru.
@@TheGuzeinbuick The dissipation is true. It's never outright stated, but seeing as how "turning off" a clone gave Naruto the Senjutsu that clone was holding, it stands to reason that they send the chakra back when they die. As for the soul, it is known that chakra itself carries memory and personality. Minato and Kushina left chakra inside Naruto and it manifested as an exact copy of themselves. We also see Obito's chakra come back and into Kakashi as a willing entity. What's more the Tailed Beasts are made of pure chakra and obviously have at least some artificial soul-like thing.
Yeah, shadows clones are all remotely connected to each other and their creator, and chakra is automatically evenly distributed among that clone network. That's why the Byakugan can't tell the original from the clones, why clones can create even more clones and why the clones can all access Kurama's chakra. t's also why it's a kinjutsu, because your shadow clones are all connected to you and chakra is automatically drained from you to keep you both at equal levels, the clone can easily accidentally kill you via chakra exhaustion if it spends chakra too recklessly.
guy was not wearing ankle weights when he went into the 8 gates and I get cancer every time someone says “imagine how strong guy would’ve been if he took off his weights”
One thing I was always curious about was darui using black lightning cause I’ve read in some places it was taught to him by the third raikage due to him being the personal guard and having the qualifications but is that really the case or is it his own thing (darui is my favorite character btw I’d love if you could respond to this)
It was stated in the manga when he first used the black lightning that "Captain Darui is the only one who inherited the previous Raikage's lightning" meaning it was a technique the third Raikage taught him.
Maybe it was from a misinformation yt video but i could have sworn Fugaku was in some sort of consideration for Hokage. I've also heard taht he had a run on sight order placed on him but that doesn't mean he's relative to Minato anyway.
Nah, it was dead ass just the uchiha. The argument they were trying to make was that fugaku had great successes in the war just like minato did, so he should at least be in the standing for next hokage. They took it as a slight against the clan by the elders and shit, that fugaku wasn’t being considered. (Of course they ain’t know minato was just in a class of his own tho)
@@pkj2148 I see... Then the anime maybe adapted it or it's only in there since the anime's adaptations of those novels is interesting to say the least.
7:47 Neji was right. Naruto was born with everything but parents if you payed attention to the story and Naruto was the child of the prophecy, the prophecy said that a child with blue eyes would either put everyone together or destroy everything, Nagato was blue eyed child that destroyed everything and Naruto was the one to get everyone together and his other destiny was to stop Indra's reincarnate, not kill it since Ashura never killed Indra, they stalemated, Naruto fought and stalemated Sasuke stopping the cycle in the process. Neji died protecting Naruto who married Hinata, a main branch member. You can only be a hokage if you were born for it, quite literally Naruto who was the son of the 4th.
Regarding the juubi Kamui thing I thought the Kamui teleport and phasing through object was established as the same jutsu? So if Madara can't phase through things he also shouldn't be able to teleport. Unless Kakashis eye just works differently I guess.
what i understood is that Kakashi can teleport things at a distance, while Obito can do it to himself hence make him seem untouchable, I still see the way Madara used kamui a little ify, but you know, he's Madara the same way Batman is Batman.
it makes sense if you consider the sudden increase of chakra density, and that he was only Jyubito for 10 - 20 minutes. making a portal once is different form spamming portals every time someone attacks you. the difference in skill and chakra control would also effect the Jutsu by default and aid in the adjustment to the chakra difference gained form becoming the 10 tails jinchuriki. the differences between the sharingan abilities are such: Kakashi's eye teleports objects, whereas Obito's eye can teleport himself and the objects and people he comes into contact with. obito didn't have the skill to adjust for the difference in chakra within the time frame and madara didn't need to adjust anything as long as he had enough chakra to rip a hole between dimensions. Sijmply. teleporting your body through dimensions without damaging it is harder then just making a hole between dimensions.
well technically yes every eye has one ability but in obitos case his phasing works a bit different. Obitos eye can not only suck himself in but also his surrounding area (about an arms lenght) but his phasing works passively. In his fight with Minato and Conan he isnt even using his MS but rather his base 3 Tomoe Sharingan and is still able to phase through matter. Idk where but it was stated that its an uncontious process one activated so he isnt reacting by phasing, its just happening.
maybe kishimoto intended for kaguya to come out of madara for a while but i wish that they gave more foreshadowing for it. like mentioning earlier in the show about how the sage of six paths is so legendary not just because he is so powerful, but because he took down some great evil or whatever. theres also literally a kaguya clan in naruto that has a derivative of her bone powers, why was she never mentioned up until just a few chapters before her appearance? theres no way that there isnt some sort of ancient text somewhere that mentions her existing and her story being in some way related to the sage of 6 paths. this build up could have been just as cool as madaras but no, they had hagoromo randomly show up and be like "yo that dudes turning into my mom go seal him up with this immense power im gonna give you" it just feels like kishimoto pulled it out of his ass to keep raising the stakes. also black zetsu being the one to do it is stupid, it would have been way better if naruto and sasuke ended up critically injuring madara so that he would sit still for just a second so they could seal him and that being what releases kaguya. they could have even had a cool perfect susanoo vs susanoo cloaked 9 tails fight in there
15:34 its not that Fugaku was a hogagke candidate it was that he should have been a hogake candidate in the eyes of the uchia. In Itachi shinden vol 1 this converstaion happens. "Ninja frrom the other lands trembled at the mention of ‘Wicked Eye’ Fugaku during the Great War.” "There’s talk it’s all the administration’s plan!” Yashiro shouted, and then spat out, “Village officials don’t want the Uchiha clan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato and the Sannin, and even Hatake Kakashi-who has the sharingan despite not being a member of the clan-who shone. If the people can make a fuss over Minato and Kakashi, then your name should also-”. Fugaku had some prety high level feats in the third war and the Uchiha were rightful upset that he wasn't even in conversation for hogake. Don't get me wrong Minato was obviously the best choice but Fugaku could have made an excellent 5th hogake, but no Danzo had to put the blame of the ninetails attack on the Uchiha.
Love breaking down misconceptions, it’s kinda eye opening to realize how much people take for granted was just created out of fan headcanon. Things like “zenkai boost” were never mentioned in canon.
The term zenkai boost is fan made but the show and manga say that saiyans get stronger after recovering from near death situations they changed it in super I believe to just saiyans get stronger as they fight
Zenkai is a fan term. It's not in the series. Vegeta first mentioned Saiyans becoming stronger through fighting and getting a large boost from recovering near death. The Daizenshuu then explains boosts from near death are smaller than usual the stronger a Saiyan becomes. Many falsely assume they stopped but it was just written out of the story.
1. Uh, in the chapter Chidori is first introduced, Guy states that it is also known as Raikiri (lightning cutter) due to the fact that Kakashi used it to cut lightning in half. So them not being the same thing is a retcon, not a misconception. 2. That's a technicality. The context implies that Kishimoto meant for the Byakugan to be at least on par with the Sharingan, if not stronger. It was obviously retconned when the manga began putting more and more focus on the Uchiha clan. 3. Obito seeing Rin die caused him to lose hope and become susceptible to Madara's indoctrination. So yes, he did start the war because of her, just not directly. Besides, the way the whole incident is presented really makes it look like that's exactly what happened. 4. Kaguya may be stronger than Madara in terms of raw power, but she's nowhere near as capable a fighter as him. Kishimoto wrote Madara to be virtually untouchable. I don't think it's true that Madara had to be replaced because he was too strong, but the argument makes more sense than you give it credit for. 5. Minato and Shiki Fujin is another retcon. There's no way Kishi had all of that stuff planned out at that stage of the manga. Remember that Minato was still supposed to be stronger than Hashirama at the time. The intention was clearly for the reanimation to be stopped halfway. If reviving Minato was impossible because of external reasons, the jutsu wouldn't have worked in the first place. 6. The hard work debate is stupid and I'm sick of hearing it. Both sides are disingenuous in their positions and dismiss and misinterpret valid points made by the other side. 7. No, hand signs as such never disappeared from the story completely, but over time, techniques that didn't require hand signs became more and more prevalent, which had more or less the same effect. In all honesty, though, hand signs are really impractical if you think about it. Maybe they shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
@@zonnodon163 No... he doesn't. First, he makes the assumption that "there's no way Kishimoto had this all planned." But there's no proof of that. Second, his statement is based on the idea that "Minato is supposed to be stronger than Hashirama." But that in and of itself is a misconception. All Hiruzen says is that he might be able to take the 1st and 2nd and the same time, but not the 1st, 2nd, and 4th at once.
3rd one makes no sense. RIn was the trigger for him to be indoctrinated yes but that wasn't the sole purpose to say he started it off of rin, he himself literally states when kakashi gets angry at him for starting a war over rin, that he didn't start it over rin, he starteded it after looking at the world around him 4th one also makes no sense, you're telling me, the character that could sneak up against a EMS and rinnegan sasuke, and a naruto who basically has a juubi amp and can sense chakra, from remote islands is somehow weaker then madera, even if you give the skill arguement her hax make up for it 10 fold, Sasuke was about to just be stranded in one of her. If it wasn't for the fact that he somehow found traces of naruto's chakra, she literally has a ONESHOT move, has a byakugan which if we use hinata's as the bare scale can see up to 12 miles yea no
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Im going to be frank an state that guns would probably useless against ninja. If a casual ninja can run to the point your opponent cant see them then bullets would be kind of slow. Especialky when you can railgun kunai.
@@EntificationALTWow He would be weaker but there are some people who think that he'll only be jonin level without kamui which is ridiculous because even without it he'll be very strong.
I mean in the fight against naruto, kakashi, guy, and bee, once kakashi figured out they both had kamui obito basically couldn't use it without being injured and he was still mostly winning that fight
@@Astral_Incarnate Yes exactly. Obito was still very strong without kamui but people still think that he's not that strong because of his fight against Kakashi.
One problem. The one responsible for these misconceptions is often none other than Kishimoto himself. People don't realize that writing a manga isn't like writing a normal story. When you work for a manga studio, you *must* write and illustrate new chapter Every. Single. Week. So that means most mangaka are forced to make stuff up as they go along. If you push your luck for ten odd years, there's bound to be lots of inconsistencies and internal contradictions in your manga. Naruto included. "Kishimoto made a mistake" is often enough to explain such misconceptions, instead of superfans running circles around every translation trying to justify the dodgy internal logic of their beloved series. For example... 2:35 Kishimoto meant for the Byakugan to superior to the Sharingan at that time. Kishimoto couldn't see five years into the future and didn't know where his story would take him. Namely, he didn't know he sideline the whole Hyuuga thing and focus on the Uchiha clan so much. 7:00 Kishimoto did indeed say in an interview that he has "no idea how to beat Madara." Kaguya may be stronger but she can be sealed. I don't think that same sealing technique would work on Madara. 8:42 Originally Hiruzen did indeed stop the third coffin from rising by using a "Jutsu Cancel." This is why Hiruzen clasps his hands together and roars with extreme effort. "Jutsu Cancel" was never used again because it's a dumb idea anyway. Kishimoto later retconned this several years later by writing a chapter about how Orochimaru was not able to summon the Minato because Minato's soul was already in the Death God's stomach. 11:50 I assume using Hand Signs is like incantations in Bleach. If you're particularly skilled, you can perform jutsus without needing to weave the proper signs first, but presumably the signs help make it easier. 12:12 Minato used some variation of the Reaper Death Seal. Even Orochimaru was able to conclude "so the jutsu that sealed the Nine Tails... is this." when Hiruzen used it.
How did Kishimoto mean for the Byakugan to be superior when Kakashi literally says in that panel it's superior in some ways in terms of perception? How can you say he meant for one to be superior to the other? How do you know the sealing jutsu wouldn't work on Madara ? they were given the very jutsu to use on him initially lol
@zelz3011 Nah I dont think Guy would lie to make Lee feel better. Thats not his character. Doing that didnt get Lee to where he was. Its more likely he is misformed/forgot.
@@RustedBuddy5192 Yeah especially because of Lee's state. He probably wouldn't even say anything if he did know maybe waiting to tell him or until he likely realized to try and motivate him.
8:54 My personal biggest plot hole because why would Hiryuzen bother trying to stop the summon if he knew it wouldn't work. And he knows this fact prior because it's why he usesvthe Reaper Death Seal on the reanimated Hokage. Though some have pointed out it could have been the fourth Kazekage he was bringing back, since the coffin just says "Four" and he would have been dead by this point.
You know what the crazy part is a lot of one piece fans love to shit on other series including Naruto claiming Naruto was always this chosen one yet One Piece is basically taking the same route with Luffy but I don’t see anyone complain 🤣 It’s not hard to understand the story you just need to pay attention to it I love both series btw
Slight misconception about the hand signs for Chidori and Lightning Blade, the hand signs used varies but the general hand signs used for both the most frequently is Ox -> Rabbit -> Monkey. The main difference between Chidori and Lightning Blade is demonstrated PERFECTLY to Naruto by Kakashi, where first he gathers chakra in his hand in the form of a sort of flame, it's like a decompressed and non-spinning Rasengan, then he adds lightning nature to it to make the Chidori, and then he changes the shape and discharge rate to whatever Kakashi desires it to be, this creates the finished product: the Lightning Blade. This was demonstrated in one of my favorite episodes of Shippuden, episode 55 at about 5 minutes 20 seconds in, Kakashi basically breaks down how he makes the Chidori and Lightning Blade in stages and the difference between the two is clear as day. Sasuke merely took Chidori in a different direction by creating variations of Chidori rather than stepping up to the Lightning Blade. The change in chakra form for the Lightning Blade doesn't just involve the chakra in your hand, but it creates a surge all around you, it's kind of like a hybrid of Chidori and Chidori Stream when Kakashi uses Lightning Blade. Yugito and Yagura were probably just like Naruto with KCM1, where they tamed their tailed beasts but hadn't befriended them to become Perfect Jinchuriki, although I think based on the fact that Killer Bee spoke so highly of Yugito, that Yugito was actually the latter. As far as Itachi not being stronger than Hashirama purely based off Hashirama's statement about him, that much you're right about, BUT, you let me know if Hashirama has any counters to Tsukuyomi or the Totsuka Blade or a way to deal with the Yata Mirror. The simple fact is he doesn't. Hashirama is a mismatch and loses to Itachi purely because of hax. Hashirama's insane durability and healing factor is completely discounted when being killed by a one-shot Genjutsu or sealed by the Totsuka Blade.
Itachi could maybe beat edo hashirama but not in his prime living body,this is the same dude that's on the level of Madara and fought him many times who is stronger than itachi is,itachi fanboy moment.
@@justinarzola4584 Hashirama literally has no counter to Tsukuyomi though? Tsukuyomi can one shot insta-death anyone Itachi wants to besides, as he stated, an Uchiha Sharingan user, and by relation probably most Otsutsuki users are probably immune to it. But everyone else in the verse lowkey loses to Tsukuyomi, the only people who can beat Itachi are other Uchihas or Otsutsukis.
@@Borchert97why did no other Uchiha ever think of that? Idk if genjutsu even works on Hashirama and lowkey even if it did how can you get close to a guy who can create a forest spontaneously
@@brandonmyles5005 Tsukuyomi isn't the same as standard Sharingan Genjutsu, it happens instantaneously and cannot be broken out of by conventional means. The only stated way to break out is to be an Uchiha with a strong enough Sharingan. We can by extension also assume Otsutsukis would have similar resistance or immunity, so that's it.
@@Borchert97 you still have to be looking into his eyes. Tsukiyomi isnt doing anything to a guy that can stand atop golems and emerge from deep forests. if getting Hashirama to look you in the eyes was so easy Madara would’ve done it
3:25 i thought the plot hole was that madara is using the wrong eye to teleport. Kakashi’s eye does long range teleportation and can’t teleport himself. Not that you can’t use kamui with the ten tails inside of you .
Kakashi eye can change where it opens the portal so more or less any range. Kakashi doesnt go intangible. So while yes ppl used to harp on the idea that madara shouldnt be able to use the eye like that. The argument transitioned over time to shouldnt be able to with the jubi inside of him because thats whats being referenced actually
Kakashis eye isnt specifically long range kamui All it does is open a portal to kamui dimension, whether long range or short range While obito can only use kamui on himself or things hes touching
Pretty good video Six. You nailed most of these on the head, but I will absolutely die on the hill that Chidori and Lightning Blade are the same jutsu. There IS a distinction between them, but that distinction is only that Kakashi once cut a lightning bolt with his Chidori, earning it a nickname. If anything, you could also argue that the Raikiri is also a more mastered form of the Chidori, but honestly this doesn't make it a new jutsu. The two are no more different than the Rasengan is from the Giant Rasengan or the Vermillion Rasengan, for example. Sorry for being pedantic, I just really needed to get that out of my system.
I think that Obito never told Nagato and Konan that rinne rebirth cost´s one´s life, and konan only thought that Nagato would die because of chakra depletion
Nah that’s fax. It’s never stated that the Kinkaku unit was all S rank Shinobi. (Kinkaku himself was for sure by then). Tobirama just calls them “highly skilled”.
Another misconception is that you only need Senju and Uchiha blood to awaken the Rinnegan. However, it's stated that Asura and Indra chakra aka Hagoromo Six Paths Chakra is need to awaken the Rinnegan. Which is why Danzo didn't awaken the Rinnegan, thankfully!
This is great stuff. Although I'm not so sure about the shadow clone one. If you can put as much chakra as you want in them wouldn't that mean more people can do multi shadow clones? I thought it made more sense that it has to be even and is why Naruto is able to do it because he has more chakra. Then when their destroyed the chakra returns.
As far as I know, the difference between chidori and lighting blade is that while both have a change in chakra nature, the raikiri has a change in chakra form as well. That being the "blade" part of the lighting blade. This is shown by the raikiri having a sharper pointed shape while the chidori normally just looks like a ball of lightning in the hand.
Chidori is mostly shown to be lightning around a pointed hand. It's only depicted as a ball like twice. The entire point of Chidori is that it makes your hand indestructible so you can stab people.
Guy literally says that raikiri is a chidori when Kakashi uses it. It got the name after Kakashi managed to cut the lightning with it thus the name "lightning cutter" in literal translation. It's the same thing and that's why we've never seen him use it again after losing sharingan because he doesn't have kinetic vision anymore, he replaced it with purple lightning which is overall a better jutsu for long long/midrange
Neji wasn’t right, yes Naruto was destined for greatness, however the whole series is based off of the decisions that Naruto made. Naruto was also destined to murder sasuke, however he even realized this and decided to save sasuke instead, thus re writing his own destiny. Which in theory makes Neji wrong.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
The sign of mastered sage mode is not developing physical traits of the animal you learned sage mode from, but the eyes are always distinct with coloration of some sort around them for all users of normal sage mode variants. Naruto's six paths sage mode is the only exception to this as it does not have any coloration around the eyes.
Imperfect Toad Sage Mode slowly turns you more and more into a toad until you eventually become a stone toad statue whereas being perfected just gives you the pigmentation. If you re-read/watch or even just look up pictures of Sage Jiraiya, his appearance changes as time goes on.
@@babaG819 Pigmentation not existing is solely for Six Paths Sage Mode, every other form of Sage Mode has pigmentation. So, no, unless in regards to Six Paths Sage Mode, pigmentation does not signify someone as being a better sage.
Can you make a video on when naruto surpassed minato? Ive seen a guy on instagram make a whole detailed post on why the kakazu fight naruto surpassed minato. Theres statements saying he needs the rasenshuriken in order to surpass the 4th, and then later at the pain fight, tsunade sees a vision of minato and jiraiya around naruto and fukasaku then says that naruto surpassed his predeccesors. I personally think its just that the rasenshuriken surpasses any rasengan minato made, and that naruto perfecting sage mode allowed him to surpass jiraiya since naruto was perfect sage and jiraiya was an imperfect sage. It just doesnt add up that rasenshuriken naruto would surpass hokage minato.
Didn't the 9 tails say if the 10 tail was pulled from u, u die Bc once u become the 10 tails, get some kinda resistance bc of all of pure energy u get from being da ten tails
One of the biggest misconceptions to me is everybody thinking Itachi planted shisuis eye into the crow so he can use it on himself, they say he’s so smart for doing that, but he planted the eye in the crow, then the crow into Naruto so the eye could be used on sasuke and have sasuke protect the leaf
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
The part about minato being in the coffin just doesn't make sense at all, since his soul was in the belly of the reaper and since the coffin is the transporting device for an Edo tensei, he should've at first used edo tensei, which he couldn't perform on minato. Orochimaru could've summoned any other strong person from history, he had access to all recent uchiha, just think about that =))) kinda dumb on his part he didn't revive more people like kabuto did, he would probably own the world by now, also dumn Kabuto didn't revive any uchihas other than Madara and Itachi
The lee chakra one pisses me off cause someone was insistent upon it but when the gates are explained it says they remove the limiters of CHAKRA flow thru the body. Like cmon just actually read/pay attention while watching
Ok, on the whole tied to your destiny thing right, what if it was his destiny to break the cycle of hatred, then technically neji would have been right all along, just something I was thinking about
The weird thing about orochimaru not being able to summon minato, at least to me, is that he shouldn't have even been able to summon a coffin in the first place. The way edo tensei works is that you need to sacrifice a living person to transform them essentially into whoever you're trying to summon. In order to summon the coffins orochimaru would have needed to perform the edo tensei to summon the hokage and place them into the coffins before the fight with hiruzen, meaning he shouldn't have been able to fill and summon a third coffin unless it held someone who wasn't minato. Unless it was supposed to work that orochimaru had his henchmen sleeping in the coffins or something and sacrificed them while summoning the hokage.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
Let's talk about Lee. While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring). Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
Rn I think one of the most notable discussion is whether nerfed adult Naruto scales above war arc. I think it’s clear he does in some areas for sure, kinda like how base goku just surpasses his previous forms.
The Naruto who fought Sasuke at the end of the War is stronger than Adult Naruto before Baryon mode. Baryon Mode is obviously stronger than everything, but Adult Naruto's SOSP isn't as powerful as his War Arc version. Simply because, it's worn down. Adult Naruto is more experienced, a better fighter, a better strategist than War Arc, has a Fake arm that absorbs Justu. But End War Arc Naruto's Power feats are greater than anything Adult Naruto had shown in his fights against the Otsutsuki (except Baryon Mode) End of War Arc Naruto was flying, had all of his Truth Seeking Orbs, shown mastery of different Rasengan styles, Reviving people from death, Two Real Arms. The same way Sasuke at the end of the war was the strongest he ever was, Absorbed 8 bijuus for his Perfected Susanoo. That Sasuke has everything Adult Sasuke has and more. The only difference is experience with Rinnegan, which Adult Sasuke doesn't really show much of a difference. War Arc Naruto matched that Sasuke while holding back. Adult Sasuke is clearly weaker than his War arc version. So the assumption off based knowledge would be Adult Naruto is weaker than his End of War Arc version, Physically. But Adult Naruto is stronger in aspects of experience. Power doesn't mean everything...that much is a theme proven throughout all of Naruto. It's impossible to say who'd win in a fight. but Base Adult Naruto vs Base End of War Arc Naruto would probably be a better fight to analyze.
Was Naruto and Sasuke nerfed in Boruto? Yes and No. This is gonna be a long one, but let me explain. Boruto era Naruto and Sasuke would ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE their Shippuden counterparts physically(i.e., power, speed, etc) . It's no question that as adults, they would beat their teenage selves half to death. BUT! Naruto and Sasuke aren't using NEARLY ANY of the powers they have at their disposal. Let's start with Naruto first. He is still technically the connection point for all of the Tailed Beast to keep in contact with each other(they haven't said anything to the contrary yet) so he should still be able to use their abilities when needed, like: 1 Tails: Creates markings on any attack that seals an opponent's movements. Pair this with the chakra limbs Naruto creates, and he basically has the steroid version of his mom's sealing chains. 2 Tails: Blue Fire that's hotter than all others(except maybe amaterasu). Add that to his Rasenshuriken, and his strongest move gets stronger. If he doesn't want the attack to get absorbed, throw it near the enemy and let the explosion do the work. 3 Tails: Creates Coral. Add Naruto's INSANE chakra to the mix, and you have amazing defensive barriers. 4 Tails: Lava. I don't know if he could fuse the lava armor with his chakra cloak, but he can at least add both that and his blue flames to his Rasenshuriken. 5 Tails: BOIL RELEASE! Naruto's personal Kaio-Ken multiplier. Enough said. 6 Tails: Poison. Add that to any attack to slowly wear down an enemy(preferably his truth seeking orb weapons, but we will get to that later). 7 Tails: Blinding light... powder? Don't know the specifics of what it is, but it could blind an enemy for a sucker punch or two. 8 Tails: Replace shadow clones with ink clones that can do all of the same things AND seal an enemy's movements when they are destroyed. 9 Tails: It's fine, Naruto already uses this to the best of his abilities. And if Naruto can't use the other Tailed Beast abilities anymore, then what's stopping him from asking for more chakra in a dire situation through the link he has with them? Truth Seeking Orbs: I believe three of them got destroyed in Kaguya's dimension, another three got destroyed in his clash with Sasuke, but the final three should still be collecting dust when he used them to seal Madara(or his limbo clone). If Naruto collected them, he would be able to fly and create weapons that would be able to withstand being coated in the 6 Tails poison. He should still be able to use them since he still has SO6P Sage mode(The Sage of Six Paths took the seals on Naruto and Sasuke's palms before their final battle where they blew each others arms off blah blah blah). Though he seems to have lost it when he lost Kurama. And Finally, Asura Avatar: If Naruto left a Clone to collect Nature energy whenever he heads off into battle, then he would be able to transform his Kurama Avatar into the three headed six arm Asura Avatar in a pinch. For Sasuke, it's even worse because I had to use SOME conjecture to defend my Naruto points, but Sasuke needs NONE of that. The Sharingan can slow down the user's perception of time for Taijutsu, copy ninjutsu, and cast powerful genjustu. Fine. But Sasuke only uses ONE of his TWO Mangekyo abilities. Has amaterasu for days, but never uses his flame control to manipulate his amaterasu in different ways that could catch an Otsutsuki off guard(like coating his sword with it so that every slash places the flames IN your body). And don't get me started on his Rinnegan. The eye that gives him MULTIPLE abilities that he DOESNT use(except teleportation). For example: Deva path: He uses it SOMETIMES, but never to FLY LIKE PAIN DID! Asura path: Could replace his lost arm with an expendable robotic one in a fight that could shoot missiles and chakra lasers, but no(if the Asura arm cant be absorbed, then neither can the missiles). Naraka Path: Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's healing factor but can still heal himself as long as Naruto gives him time. Human and Animal Path: Comes with various uses against weaker enemies, but against Otsutsuki, would only pose as a distraction at best. I can see why Sasuke doesn't use these honestly. Preta Path: Sasuke's always running out of chakra and never uses this shit to get more. And if Nauto is there, he can absorb some of his NEAR INFINITE AMOUNTS OF CHAKRA(its absurd how much Naruto has) to transform his Perfect Susano'o into his blue and purple Indra Susano'o. While most of Naruto's and Sasuke's abilities might be useless against Otsutsuki, let's not forget that they are NINJA! No matter how strong Naruto or Sasuke gets, stealth trickery and deception are their bread and butter. All they gotta do is add some creativity to the mix, and Ishiki would be sweating. But Naruto and Sasuke don't fight like ninja. They fight like Otsutsuki. And if you are wondering if the two could defeat Jigen if they used all of their abilities? I believe so. Ishiki? Even if the two fused the Asura Avatar and Indra Susano'o, I doubt it. But they would definitely give him a hard time.
This may not be relevant, but people actually think that Boruto isn't in the Naruto manga, even though he is clearly shown in chapter 700. (And also chapters 701-710 of the Shin Uchiha story, which has Naruto as the title)
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8:47 honestly, I think that bit is just a retcon. There’s no way Kishimoto knew that many chapters in advance that he was going to have Minato’s soul trapped by the Reaper Death Seal.
Technically Naruto didn't change his destiny. His destiny was to bring change as prophesized. So technically neji was right
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Did Killer Bee die when Madara became 10 tails Jinchuriki or did I miss something ??
The itachi statement literally can be taken as both which it should he care so much for the village, but he’s also intelligent enough to understand what circumstances come, what causes and effects come from the actions that are being taken by the shinobi of that time. And even further down the line.
I feel as if most of the misinterpretations on Naruto are just weird agendas that people are forcing onto others for some reason
Somebody told me rock lee didn't have chakra once so I sent him lee walking on water😭😭😭
Bruh Lee was shown channeling chakra into his arms in literally his first appearance in the manga lmao. All taijutsu involves using chakra to reinforce the body, that's why Lee has superhuman strength and speed. Anyone who thinks he can't use chakra is illiterate.
@@AlteredNova04Not being sarcastic, just a question, why cant lee use ninjutsu than?
@kgeddesballsout6807 He has it, but can't use nature transformation or anything above it's raw form.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 How come?
@kgeddesballsout6807 It was an off handed comment from... Sasuke, I think? When he used his sharingan he saw Lee's chakra.
It was basically about how his chakra or chakra Paths were weird. But even I'm not sure. Hoped this helped a little.
7:40 THANK YOU for bringing up this point about Naruto forging his own destiny by breaking the cycle of Ashura and Indra incarnates fighting. I rarely ever see anyone bring this up.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
I think chidori and rakiri are the same in the way rasengan and big ball rasengan are. Kakashi has increased the shape transformation and nature transformation to S tier levels. I do like the idea of encountering lightning gave Kakashi better knowledge of lightning release on some black flash ish.
But by that logic Sasuke's Chidori in Shippuden should be called "Raikiri", as he shows much more mastery in shape transformation than Kakashi with Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Senbon, Chidori Eisou and so on.
I also don't know where this information comes from that Kakashi increased the degree of shape transformation and that is the basis for Raikiri being different from Chidori. It might come from a databook? But going by manga canon there's nothing to indicate Raikiri isn't just a nickname for Chidori when Kakashi uses it.
The old databooks might have classified the Raikiri as S-Rank and Chidori as A-Rank because Kakashi was stronger than Sasuke at that time.
Sasuke correcting Deidara probably just means he is asserting himself as a Chidori user as "Raikiri" is a trademark for Kakashi. It's similar to the different times in Part 1 when enemies had outdated information and referred to Shikamaru's Shadow Posession with a different name. It also happens with Shikaku and the Shadow Neck Binding Technique IRRC. It's not that the enemies were referring to different jutsu, they were just using their old name.
@@giannixxNo, there is a difference in power between the two I believe. One just packs a heavier punch then the other and is quiet , Sasuke just managed to make the base chidori more versatile. But the quiet part is what definitely separates the two imo.
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This is a pretty harmless statement and a good example of just enjoying the series and applying a logical foundation. Joule has jolted us all.
The part that people refer to as "Neji was right" is in regards to him talking about how those who become Hokage were born for that role. They are essentially destined for greatness. Naruto at the start of the series is basically a black sheep who has to compete with characters who are more talented than he is, which is why a lot of fans root for him. However as time goes on and more is revealed about Naruto, such as him not only being the son of the 4th Hokage but also that the Uzumaki are descended from the Sage of the Six Paths, just like the Uchiha, that Naruto is also the child of two separate prophecies (which according to the Toad Sage always come true) and is the inheritor/reincarnation of Asura, the more it becomes evident that Naruto WAS always destined for greatness. While Neji was wrong in other aspects, he was unwittingly correct in this one.
When did old toad sage say the prophecy always comes true? Nagato was bestowed the same prophecy as Naruto but it didn’t come true in his case
And also, being the reincarnation of Asura does not mean you are destined to be powerful or great, it means you will clash with the reincarnation of Indra and one (or both) of you will fall, continuing the cycle of hatred
@@intoxicz I'm pretty sure it's one of those "cheat" prophecies where if it doesn't come true, it's because you were wrong, not the prophecy.
e.g.
-Nagato is the child of prophecy!
-I mean MINATO is the child of prophecy!
-Crap Nagato/Minato didn't bring great revolution to the world. Was the prophecy wrong?
-Well no, that is because Nagato/Minato wasn't the child of prophecy, Naruto was. Duh.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
No i say hea right because everything did come down to destiny. Even neji dying for hinata...
"Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to. "Overcoming Hatred(something the ninja world fosters)" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent. And if you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), I don't know what to tell you.
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Lee's lost literally proved Hard work doesn't beat talent...Idk why people thought thats what the series was about.
Even in real life...the Talented who Work Hard succeed beyond all.
And Naruto was shown to be talented when he mastered Shadow Clones at a young age, literally no one but elite Jonin were expected to do it.
It was way more than 1 arc. It was every arc until the war arc that it was about hard work and training for the main characters. Even sasuke had to train his ass off
Yes excaty its like how the early theme in shipudden was passing on the torch, and becoming the next generation
@virn333 Training is obvious, its a battle shounen. But it isn't about hardwork trumping talent when everyone that trained there ass off was also talented.
That's my basic point.
Great video Six, this is one of those videos that definitely needs to exist because with all the jokes, misinformation, anime filler adding things, and probably not having read Naruto (or certain parts of it) in a long time so they believe what the general community opinion is. In other videos he briefly talks about other misconceptions, so definitely check out more of his content if you haven't.
I've never understood people saying adult Naruto doesn't have six paths sage mode, Literally look at his eyes...
the main problem is his skin color. It's the same as KCM Sage Mode. So while his eyes are different, his skin, the much bigger asset, is KCM Sage mode colored
@@TubemastaC tiny asset, thats pure aesthetics, unlike the very meaningful crosses in his eyes
11:48 I think what people meant is the showcase of hand sign turned into a novelty instead something that shouldve been kept normalized. Half the time, after part 1, the anime doesnt show handsign and you can clearly see the characters whip out their ninjutsu without any sign weaving.
Yeah it's not that ninja stopped using hand seals, it's that they use them less frequently and extremely inconsistently.
Like, why does Sasuke sometimes still perform the seals for chidori, but sometimes he clearly performs it seal-lessly? I don't know, it's never explained. Nobody knows, that's why there's so much fanon headcanons lol.
this gets worse in boruto. since its a monthly manga i dont keep it with it too much, id rather wait a year or two and catch up but it seems more prevalent in boruto as well. cant remember if it was mnaga or anime but there was a scene where orochimaru deleted someone with a jutsu without using any hand signs. too me it looked like a dust/particle style jutsu but no hand signs were used and the scene just felt so off because of it
1:39 the naruto ost in the back always makes me focus. I think it's because whenever i hear it in naruto i know i have to focus so maybe my brain associates it. I should try listening to this during work
This definitely needed to be done. Thank you six 🤝🏾
6:13 Dygo needs to watch this because you don't even need to research to realise this
This was an incredibly gratifying and in many instances vindicating watch.
funny to get such a video from the guy who thinks the itachi sasuke shuriken scene was genjutsu
"if shadow clones always split your chakra in half, you would only be able to make one"
7:01 THANK YOU BRO!!!!, this part about kishimoto replacing madara with Kaguya because "Madara is too strong" makes ZERO sense, and many people have been saying this for some reason, this is very close to the jumping on the bandwagon fallacy.
We go from madara to kaguya who's a bit stronger but acts like she had a lobotomy causing that power difference to be useless.
@@SoupRongan not a bit, a lot.
@@SoupRongan kaguya is a not a bit stronger. it literally states she is an an entire different level than madara when she first appears. madara is an ant in comparison.
@@raiden3013We never saw Madara's full strength, but Kakashi's power difference between having single MS and DMS was so huge even if you ignore the abilities. the same thing happening with Madara would also be on another level if it were to have gotten the chance.
@@SoupRongan kaguya came with a plan to kill isshiki and stopped endless wars and fought her sons who both are excellent fighters. she knows how to fight
Obito is not natural. He may be one of the strongest Shinobi of all time but he has been roided out on Hashirama cells, and has the Uchiha DNA for six paths powers, since the age of 14. I've seen people say it's a plot hole he's so strong but that's blatantly wrong not to mention how busted Kamui is.
Fugaku scaling to Minato comes from the statement that both of them had a flee on sight order during the 3rd GSW, and they were the only two to have that order.
uchiha have genjutsu that works just by looking into your eyes he had the best sharingan in his clan, he’s doesn’t need to be as strong as minato to get people to run
I’m pretty sure someone also says the only other candidate for hokage at the time was fugaku
Not true. Shisui also had it.
Didnt Sakumo Hatake have a flee on sight as well?
@@noahblevins9569 He did, but I believe Sakumo died before the 3rd Great Ninja War or in its early stages.
Random but i love ur thumbnails they have a distinct touch that always gets me excited when i see em. I think thumbnails are a huge piece of the TH-cam puzzle
Another spin on the Rinne Rebirth situation could be that it's more taxing to bring back people who have been dead for some time. I may be remembering wrong but the destruction of the leaf happened in one day. Everyone's been dead for a few hours so it's not too taxing since their souls haven't been gone for too long. Madara has been dead for over 16 years so it makes sense for it to kill Obito. It also adds to the reason Nagato wasn't able to bring back Jiraiya.
Its definitely possible but it doesnt seem to align with any other method of bringing somone back after they have actually died.
You can sacrifice life force like with what chiyo did or rinne rebirth
You can edo tensei them which other ignores everything except if you have dna and that persons soul is not stuck somewhere it cant be removed from.
You can definitely stall death based on length of time the person is in a near death state.
In this way it makes more sense for it to be a uzumaki lifeforce statement as opposed to a time statement. Uzumaki can survive someone extracting bijuu. This is implied to like instantly kill almost every other jinchuriki. Naruto lived in a near death state. Kushina gave birth that same day and also held the full 9 ninetails. And i dont think we have concrete evidence but one can assume that Mito survived kurama being removed from her for a period of time as well.
Maybe a user needs both eyes to unlock their true potential. That was emphasized a lot throughout the series too.
Nagato had both Rinnegan, so the drawback that could cause death, which was what happened, was simply the lack of chakra.
Obito on the other hand could only use one eye and he stated that having both was too much for him. So using Rinne Rebirth with just one eye would lead to death, because the true potential isn't there, while if he had both, he would not die.
This is my take.
I think the misconception people dont get is that Neji vs Naruto was not about Hard work vs Talent. I think it was actually over the fact that Neji believes everyone's state or future is pre-defined and unchangable only because of the class system in his clan that put him, who is far more talented than Hinata below her only because she was born from the older brother. His Uncle. I feel like people think the "hard work vs talent" thing is the theme because of Goku & Vegeta. Naruto was never incapable of ninjutsu. He just didnt take it seriously. Yet from the first day we see him already master transformation and shadow clone without much effort. Naruto tends to master things when he's serious. Like against Mizuki.
Naruto was just looked down upon because of his immaturity and the 9 nails, and from that reputation Neji argued that, that is who Naruto is and always would be. Naruto only disproved he was not a loser because of that reputation to Neji who was well respected as a genius on the levels of Sasuke. Naruto wasnt. To me this makes more sense because Naruto ends up beating his reputation and becomes Hokage and helps save the world.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
@@thewiseyounglad2699 W. also you didn't need to go so in-depth neji was debunked by hiashi in part one. Neji developed a viewpoint that the branch family was destined to serve and die for the main branch and are essentially slaves that bend to their will. Because his father hizashi died for hiashi. But it wasn't the truth. hiashi was going to sacrifice himself but hizashi knocked him out and chose to die for hiashi.
@Vascody I just found it off putting that Rock Lee and the Chunin Exams were SO popular that people gained misconceptions about basic discussion points that the characters themselves talk about.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 FR. They focus on the big points in the manga or anime and skim over the resolutions that happen.
You note no chirping noises, but every scene I could find of Kakashi's Raikiri has them. It's just his form of "Chidori".
Chidori and raikari are different in every way
@@therealprophet2488 They are literally the same, Sasuke always use the hand signs from Raikiri but always calls it Chidori, Raikiri it's just a nickname for the Chidori
@@therealprophet2488 This has confused me for years. And I have spent a ton of time looking into it, from everything I could find in manga, databooks etc.
Chidori is the basic jutsu, everyone knows how it works obviously. You hold lightning in your hand, rush the opponent and strike them.
Raikiri has a bit more finesse, and (at least as the series progressed and made them distinct) a raikiri is performed with your finger tips not your palm (similar to the Raikage strikes), this requires better chakra control (as the blade has to envelope your hand, rather than being a "ball" you grasp) and much like the Raikage techniques, striking with the tips of your fingers gives your higher penetration and killing potential, since the impact point is far smaller. (Which lines up with Kakashi cutting lightning I guess?)
Just my own head cannon.
@@niero4201i like this.
I think there are times when Sasuke strikes with his palm vs when he strikes with his fingers, right?
So Sasuke uses both?
@@Sweetdude64 I think so.
I still have no idea why Sasuke never used the Naraka path since it would be extremely useful... literally any time he or naruto got fucked up before his rinnegan got stabbed out by boruto. Seriously, the Naraka path would legit just recover the two of them and they'd be back in action like nothing happened.
Because the writer of Boruto forgot that it existed? Maybe he didn't consider that Naruto and Sasuke shouldn't just be stronger but also have new skills? While Boruto isn't completely terrible it definitely has problems such as Sasuke just never using his rinnegan abilities for some reason.
@@ghadyjardak7147Well it's hard to tell because Sasuke was still new to the rinnegan in Naruto shippuden. Then those abilities became inconvenient to the narrative of Boruto.
at least in the anime the misconception that black zetsu him self was the one who killed Madera, i've talk to many people about this for some reason people think madera was already dead when kaguya was revived which isn't true. he was still alive all the way up to the point where the 10 tails got ripped from his body which then he has a brief convo with hashirama, also black zetsu by himself is not madera level he was in control of obito's body at the time and he stabbed him in the back catching him when his guard was down.
U don’t understand how many op fans on tiktok try to use the “ no ninja can withstand the power of a gun statement “ in debates 💀
I'm so glad to finally hear someone discuss the shadow clone issue. So many people misunderstand, "Chakra evenly distributed between clones" as I made 4 clones so now each of us has 20% of my chakra. No! I used 10% of my chakra to make 10 clones, so now each one has 1% of my chakra.
Damn🤯
I have 3 misconceptions which I can go over and explain if anyone asks why
1. Thinking Hagoromo and Madara were on the same level based off Hagoromo telling Naruto & Sasuke that Madara has his power and is trying to obtain his mother’s
2. People thinking EMS Sasuke doesn’t get stronger during the war and not being relative to KCM2 + Sage Naruto by the end of their fight against Juubito
3. People thinking you can reverse summon out of the kamui dimension or a dimension in general
1. He literally said he is approaching his power, he already has all hagaromos abilities, so it's referring to strength.
2. Ems Sasuke isn't relative, EMS Sasuke with Curse mark from Jugo is.
3. You can, reverse summon is just the opposite of summoning, which occurs from drawing a creature from a different dimension.
@@kakuzugoated873 1. No he's referring to abilities. In that exact moment, Hagoromo was referencing the fact that Madara was close to gaining all his abilities (at the time Madara had 1 rinnegan and the juubi inside of him). Then said he that he was close to obtaining his mother's, that being the 9-tomoe rinnegan or rinnesharingan. But why is it that he's referring to abilities?
We know this is the case by two important things: first is the scaling and two is the actual text and context. The scaling is quite simple. For Kaguya to EVEN APPEAR, Madara who already had a juubi + Hashi's dna & sage power + his own chakra had to get more than a JUUBI level of chakra forced into him. Sasuke literally says this chakra that's being sucked into Madara (pause) was more than that of a juubi. This is for her to even APPEAR. She then absorbs more chakra from those in the infinite tsukuyomi and her other dimensions (Momo can do the same so this is just a trait of the Otsutsuki to take in chakra from the dimensions they control plus Kaguya can merge with nature) and gets EXPONENTIALLY faster and stronger yet Naruto & Sasuke can still somewhat combat with her and damage her (along with DMS Kakashi and Sakura for one hit). Sasuke & Naruto already knew that Madara would not be the "final boss" but would be Kaguya which is the main reason Hagoromo gave them power. Also, the main reason as to why Hagoromo couldn't just deal with his mother himself was mainly because well, he's a ghost, but also having died he is in control of the samsara plane (connecting to his rinnegan). Essentially in the world of the Naruto, the plane where chakra connects others and the world. Obito understood this and that was why he was able to give Kakashi power except compared to Hagoromo who controls that plane, could only be temporary.
Also, not only is it literally stated that what Hagoromo gave them are gifts, but it's his powers/abilities. Hagoromo gave Naruto & Sasuke 3 things. The first is HIS chakra. His chakra is six paths chakra (likewise Hamura's). He also gave them the six paths yin & yang power seals. Lastly, he gave them their six paths reincarnate birthrights and upgraded versions of each directly stated either by the characters themselves or the databook as being gifts and Hagoromo's abilities. This for Naruto being six paths sage power and the upgraded version being six paths sage mode. For Sasuke being the rinnegan and the upgraded version being the 6-tomoe rinnegan.
Next is simply the text. The word used in this sentence 力 ”chikara" can be defined as power, ability, force. Interesting cause the word 能力 "nouryoku" can be defined as ability, capacity and the word 強い "tsuyoi" pretty much has one meaning and that is strong/strength. Given the text of the sentence can be translated as (I've been studying Japanese for a couple years now and while I'm not fluent, I certainly am a lot closer than a majority. That entire panel can be translated as (this is Hagoromo talking):
"Now (or Currently) Madara is like my mother Kaguya."
"Now that he's finished as Indra's reincarnate, he has the power of the ten tails like me." (or He's not Indra's reincarnate having the power of the ten tails like me)
"Even now he's trying to get closer to the power of my mother Kaguya"
Now AGAIN context matters. He is not saying that his strength is close to Kaguya. He then on the next couple panels talks directly about the infinite tsukuyomi and what it does. All Hagoromo is saying is that, Madara's power/abilities are getting to a point where Kaguya's potential revival may happen. The before panels talk about this as well that he has no longer become Indra's reincarnate and the day he stopped being Indra's reincarnate technically is when he awakened the rinnegan by merging Asura & Indra's chakra which is a derivative of Hagoromo's chakra
Conclude, at best you can argue that Madara was approaching ghost Hagoromo power but even then considering what he could give to Naruto & Sasuke without even being a juubi jinchuriki + base Otsutsuki powers (which was enough to seal Kaguya & the juubi) + gifted abilities that he would then pass to Naruto & Sasuke in 6-tomoe rinnegan & six paths sage mode, it's simply how one would interpret it given context
@@kakuzugoated873 2. This is pretty blatant that he is. Jugo's curse mark simply allows Sasuke's susano'o to bypass the ninjutsu nullification. It has nothing to do with Sasuke's eyes. I say this because EMS Sasuke and Bijuu Sage Naruto EQUALLY track, attack and react to Juubito at the same speed & strength while also (along with Jugo which is an impressive feat for him) TANKING Juubito's attack.
There's a common misconception that Sasuke gets pissed at seeing Mastered KCM2 Naruto. It was actually at Bijuu Sage Naruto he gets pissed. But it's for the reason of how his ideals are at the time. He wants to be alone and fix the world his way and through power. He sees Naruto as one who conflicts this and most of all, he knows that Naruto won't give up and seeing how strong Naruto is infuriates him cause he knows Naruto he'll have to cut down first in order to reach his goals seeing Naruto's ideals and strength. It's funny people forget just a couple moments later while Juubito is talking down to Naruto and the entire alliance loses faith even to what Hashi is saying, Sasuke charges ahead of Naruto AGAIN at that point in the war arc.
Simply put, at every moment in the war, Sasuke was either always ahead of matching Naruto.
The accumulation of this pre-six paths is the fact Sasuke can do the majestic attire susano'o, which is literally perfect susano'o armor wrapped around Kurama or Kurama Mode. This means, he reached ANOTHER stage of power & strength beyond the sage susano'o, making perfect susano'o armor. This all the while that Naruto's Sage Kurama Avatar was being boosted by Minato's yin Kurama to the point it took Minato completely out of KCM for a bit until the tug-o-war where everyone was giving Naruto & Sasuke strength
@@kakuzugoated873 This is literally the translation of the summoning jutsu from the first databook:
"This is a kind of Space-Time Ninjutsu, allowing the user to summon any living being with whom they signed a contract in blood, at any time and place they desire. The summoned creature will obey the user with its life, helping in every situation, whether it be fighting or fleeing. The user smears their own blood on the hand they signed the contract with and kneads chakra by doing [hand] seals. Then by turning the palm of that hand to the place they want to summon, they call forth a subordinate they can rely on."
First thing is the creatures that are summoned aren't in another dimension. They are in separate lands somewhere on the Naruto world. You can literally travel to the 3 sage regions or to where the Monkey King Enma lives among others. The creatures also all use chakra and like every creature on the Naruto earth all has chakra points.
Simply we know you can't reverse summon due to the fact that kamui it's stated no one can escape once trapped and Sasuke wasn't able to escape before the Danzo fight when he wanted to (he was demanding Obito to leave) and at that point he already had done the reverse summon
Also, Team 7 couldn't reverse summon out of Kaguya's genesis dimension and needed ghost Hagoromo + the help of the former Gokage to summon them & the 9 bijuu & Madara.
It is a space-time ninjutsu though and higher levels of space-time ninjutsu theoretically can bypass dimensions. This being the Flying Thunder God (which I would argue could easily escape the kamui dimension or other dimensions) or Code's claw marks or karma even while space-time dojutsu can as well like the rinnegan's space-time technique that the Otsutsuki and Sasuke have or kamui or Amenominaka and Kaguya's Yomotsu Hirasaka. Space-time ninjutsu we know can bypass barriers and that space-time ninjutsu with their own dimensions can be synchronized and gain access to others. Sasuke has done this accessing all of Kaguya's dimensions, a few of Momoshiki's and Isshiki's dimensions too. Obito did this with Kaguya's genesis dimension on his own and then with her other dimensions with the help of Byakugou Seal Sakura. Otsutsuki/karma seal users seem to do this pretty casually, equal or even better than Sasuke at his peak
@@emssasukeisunderrated7946 1. You don't need both eyes for all of hagaromos abilities, it's states that with one eye you get all 6 paths abilities, with obito and madara both having all the powers. And with Kaguya he's referencing him tryna use the God tree, as the God tree is what bore the Chakra fruit, which is a power boost. If we go by scaling, hagoromo scales to a featless kaguya. When kaguya came back she had become the ten tails jinchuriki instead of just controlling it, plus madaras Chakra and hashirama cells.
OH MY GOD. DUDE. *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS* 8:02 I still CONTINUE to need to explain to people what the fight between Naruto and Neji was truly about, and why it in fact DOESN'T contradict the themes of the series. I was really hoping you'd touch upon this in the video, but I'm so glad you actually did lmao. You are a legend man
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
@@thewiseyounglad2699 ?? What're you talking about dude? 💀 I never disagreed with you
@afro025 Never said you did. Just copy and pasted my comment cuz I liked yours.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 oh, lmao. Thanks! That makes more sense. Btw I was referring to when you said "BUT! You still disagree with me. Why?"
Anyhow I read your entire reply and you did a great job explaining just how Naruto as a series doesn't contradict its themes and why Neji is still wrong. 👍 so yeah, awesome counterargument man!!
10:57 Tobirama later on stated he was in a deplorable state when he used shadow clones.
W Video Six Definitely should make a Part 2👍🔥
I might have too. Everyone is brining up more misconceptions that I forgot about a long time ago.
I feel like the circumstances and how awakening the Mangekyo Sharingan works should be addressed, especially considering the controversy around Sarada’s Mangekyo
Let's talk about Lee, though my first post should be enough to know where he stands in relation to both Naruto and the story, so I'll leave it with this: While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring).
Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
Another misconception people are bringing up is Sasuke having no chakra by the time Deidara releases his C0 bomb, thus thinking him being able to summon Manda and escaping the attack should not be possible. This is often brought up by people, who are trying to argue that Deidara was stronger than Sasuke and Sasuke winning only due to plot(?)
For one, Sasuke NEVER stated to have no chakra. Only Deidara did (he assumed so), and he was proven wrong a couple of times during that fight on its own. Sasuke fell down to his knees, however that still doesn't say anything explicit about his amount of chakra, but only his health. On top of that... literally everything is plot. You can't use that argument in a debate about powerscaling.
Edit: another thing to consider is the fact that it's totally possible for Sasuke to act that quickly. Remember him evading explosions by flying upwards, swapping himself with nearby objects or bringing out a giant white snake? Yeah, that speed of his was consistently shown.
Well, people who are low on chakra can't summon a huge snake.
@@andrepayne4349 When was Sasuke ever low on Chakra in that fight?
@@DEGermany When Deidara said he was low on chakra?
@@andrepayne4349plus jiraya while severally nerfed could still summon on chakra could still summon gammabunta, the misconception is Naruto using the nine tails to summon gambunta , , summoning is not all about chakra , sure more chakra bigger summon but is also about chakra control and targeting the summon u want , if bigger chakra equals bigger summon Naruto would have been able summon something larger than a tadpole , bc it was confirmed by ebisu Naruto using way more chakra for a jutsu than necessary
@@andrepayne4349 Now, how do you know Deidara was correct?
I'm glad to say that I knew pretty much everyone of those except the Rarikiri and Chidori weren't the same thing, I never thought about to be honest and summed up to Kakashi's PTSD caused to change the name from Chidori to Raikiri and I the amount of people who said they stopped using handsigns just must of not watched the show bc even Boruto they use handsigns all the time but anyway 🔥vid and keep up the great work
I feel like every day people need to be told that the main theme of Naruto is not Hardwork vs Talent, rather the defiance of "Destiny"
Now I can, because Lee and the chunin exams were SO popular, understand why one would think that the overarching theme of the series is "Hard work trumping talent" instead of "Overcoming hatred." Unless you believe that there can be multiple overarching themes to a series instead of one, I'll compare and contrast the two with every arc, starting with:
1. The prologue - We see Naruto's position within the village and how he's treated with loathing and isolation. I believe his interaction with Mizuki and Iruka is a perfect example of one overcoming hatred against him to see the good in Naruto, while the other falls deeper into it to the point that they take drastic action(like trying to use and kill him).
Overcoming talent wasn't even a point here, as Naruto learned the shadow clone jutsu fairly quickly(and couldnt learn the clone jutsu because his chakra control was shit due to his large amounts of chakra)
2. The Land of Waves - Haku grew up in a situation similar to Naruto, being hated for the power he possessed. Instead of choosing the path of vengeance, Haku fought because he loved Zabuza, and paired with Zabuza's final actions, Naruto became inspired to model his ninja way after them.
Haku set the precedent of introducing characters that would reflect Naruto himself, not based on talent but instead on how far into hatred they had fallen. There is a reason why Haku, who didn't fall to hatred, was such an inspiration to Naruto.
Now, I'll talk about the theme of overcoming talent. There isn't one. Naruto uses the 9 Tails power(which many of you believe goes against the theme of the Chuunin exams) by this point to take down a genius, not his own power
3. The Chunin Exams- The main theme of the Chunin exams is overcoming talent with hard work, but overcoming hatred is also present here. Gaara is a representation of what Naruto could have been if he fell into the cycle, and Naruto began to fear him after that because of the similarities the two share. I believe that it was this arc that Naruto also expressed the hatred HE used to have for the village in the past(something we later figure out he still has with the waterfall of truth).
On top of that, the MAIN point of this arc was to present a psuedo war between the nations using the Genin to show off their future military power. If this doesnt foster hatred(and a long list of other fucked up shit), I dont know what else does
4. Sand Invasion arc(do people consider this a separate arc to the Chuunin exams?) - Much of the same thing with the parallels between Naruto and Gaara, but with the addition of Naruto using the 9 Tails power to summon Gamabunta to fight Shukaku. I don't believe hard work trumping talent was really reinforced here
5. Tsunade arc - Naruto learned the Rasengan WAY faster than the Toad Sage Jiraiya(could he be a genius?). He worked hard just to fail but succeeded in the end due to thinking outside of the box.
Meanwhile, Orochimaru felt hatred towards the Leaf and wanted to heal his hands to continue his path of destruction, yet was taken down with the help of Tsunade, who overcame her hatred via loss of her loved ones due to Naruto simply being there for her in her time of need
6. Sasuke retrieval arc - Naruto had two main fights, one with Kimimaru and one with Sasuke. For both fights, he used the 9 Tails to try and gain the upper hand(though Lee came in to represent hard work and got bodied until Gaara showed up, so there you go, I guess).
The main point of the arc was a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke, as the latter is falling into hatred for his vengeance
Now, many believe that hatred only rose to prominence as the main theme in Shippuden, spitting on everything that OG Naruto set up regarding overcoming talent with hardwork, but that is not the case.
I could go over the shippuden arcs like I did here with the OG arcs, but seeing as overcoming talent with hard work is RARELY seen there in comparison to hatred, which is much more pronounced at that point, I'm simply going to move on.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1:22 Is no one gonna talk about the text that showed up on screen?
me when Six tells me to not misinterpret a series:
nah imma do my own thing
Oh my gosh.
Nah bro ur misconceptions of naruto are a canon event
This vid is on time. I currently have to explain why delta beats hashirama because someone still thinks hashirama has more chakra than naruto.
Hashirama should have more chakra than Naruto now. In 4th war Hashirama said Naruto with half the 9 tails had about the same chakra as he did so Naruto with no 9 tails should have less. That doesn't mean he beats Delta though
@2406west Naruto gets stronger. Even without Kurama, Naruto probably has more Chakra than hashirama and would beat hashirama. Naruto is an Uzumaki and has an anti durability jutsu. Naruto is just also fast in base now.
@@gogomarioloshi sorry but what delta can do against the titanic statue that hasirama can make that
1. is is big it can pick up kurama like a little puppy,
2. So strong it can punch madara sussano off kurama
3. is so durable that it can tank a biju bombs made by kurama?
It seems yall are under the impression that chakra = strength and that's not the case. Just because you have less chakra than someone doesn't mean you're weaker than them. Naruto has more chakra than kakashi in part 1 but would still get folded. Also getting stronger does not mean you get more chakra either
@@gogomarioloshi ok and Hashirama is a Senju who also have lots of Chakra lol. Getting stronger does not mean you gain chakra. If he had as much chakra as Hashirama with the 9 tails then without it he should for sure have less
I don't think you've got the Shadow Clone misconception right.
Naruto's massive chakra is solely why he can make thousands of clones without dying, as they ALWAYS use a percentage equal to the number of clones. The user and the clones always have equal chakra to one another.
If say Tenten has 10 chakra, and she uses a shadow clone, she has 5 chakra left and her shadow clone has 5 chakra. Now we know that hitting 0 chakra kills you, so Tenten and her clone can't use any jutsu that costs 5 or more chakra.
NARUTO however, has 1000 chakra, so if he makes even 100 clones, he himself and each of his clones now has as much chakra as Tenten does in base, so he can use any jutsus she could before she made clones. THAT'S what's so important. If he makes 10 clones, he can still fire of jutsus that require incredible amounts of chakra, because the amount of chakra that goes into the jutsu does not increase exponentially with how much chakra you have.
Plus I believe it's stated that once a clone dissipates, the chakra (as well as the knowledge) is even distributed back amongst the caster and the remaining clones.
Really weird thing that most people forget-- Shadow Clones have their own freaking souls. o_O Hiruzen's clones both had souls when he used them to capture Hashirama's and Tobirama's Edo Tenseis when he fought against Orochimaru.
@@TheGuzeinbuick The dissipation is true. It's never outright stated, but seeing as how "turning off" a clone gave Naruto the Senjutsu that clone was holding, it stands to reason that they send the chakra back when they die.
As for the soul, it is known that chakra itself carries memory and personality. Minato and Kushina left chakra inside Naruto and it manifested as an exact copy of themselves. We also see Obito's chakra come back and into Kakashi as a willing entity. What's more the Tailed Beasts are made of pure chakra and obviously have at least some artificial soul-like thing.
Yeah, shadows clones are all remotely connected to each other and their creator, and chakra is automatically evenly distributed among that clone network. That's why the Byakugan can't tell the original from the clones, why clones can create even more clones and why the clones can all access Kurama's chakra.
t's also why it's a kinjutsu, because your shadow clones are all connected to you and chakra is automatically drained from you to keep you both at equal levels, the clone can easily accidentally kill you via chakra exhaustion if it spends chakra too recklessly.
@@AlteredNova04 Shadow Clones can't siphon chakra from the original. They can only use the amount that they were created with
disagree
guy was not wearing ankle weights when he went into the 8 gates and I get cancer every time someone says “imagine how strong guy would’ve been if he took off his weights”
One thing I was always curious about was darui using black lightning cause I’ve read in some places it was taught to him by the third raikage due to him being the personal guard and having the qualifications but is that really the case or is it his own thing (darui is my favorite character btw I’d love if you could respond to this)
It was stated in the manga when he first used the black lightning that "Captain Darui is the only one who inherited the previous Raikage's lightning" meaning it was a technique the third Raikage taught him.
DUDE the gun one was brought up by some fan piece fan i was talking to and he would never give that up, even though the interview was done in 2003/04
Maybe it was from a misinformation yt video but i could have sworn Fugaku was in some sort of consideration for Hokage. I've also heard taht he had a run on sight order placed on him but that doesn't mean he's relative to Minato anyway.
Probably mainly anime stuff but it doesn't change the fact that Minato is still stronger from what we know about Fugaku even at peak.
Nah, it was dead ass just the uchiha. The argument they were trying to make was that fugaku had great successes in the war just like minato did, so he should at least be in the standing for next hokage. They took it as a slight against the clan by the elders and shit, that fugaku wasn’t being considered. (Of course they ain’t know minato was just in a class of his own tho)
@@ZelZ-.-z The flee on sight thing comes from the Itachi light novels I believe.
@@pkj2148 I see...
Then the anime maybe adapted it or it's only in there since the anime's adaptations of those novels is interesting to say the least.
i love that this whole video was just debunking “anime twitter” on their attempt to tear down peak 🗣️🗣️
7:47 Neji was right. Naruto was born with everything but parents if you payed attention to the story and Naruto was the child of the prophecy, the prophecy said that a child with blue eyes would either put everyone together or destroy everything, Nagato was blue eyed child that destroyed everything and Naruto was the one to get everyone together and his other destiny was to stop Indra's reincarnate, not kill it since Ashura never killed Indra, they stalemated, Naruto fought and stalemated Sasuke stopping the cycle in the process. Neji died protecting Naruto who married Hinata, a main branch member. You can only be a hokage if you were born for it, quite literally Naruto who was the son of the 4th.
For a sec I thought he was going to try and tell me to stop reading from left to right
Regarding the juubi Kamui thing
I thought the Kamui teleport and phasing through object was established as the same jutsu? So if Madara can't phase through things he also shouldn't be able to teleport.
Unless Kakashis eye just works differently I guess.
what i understood is that Kakashi can teleport things at a distance, while Obito can do it to himself hence make him seem untouchable, I still see the way Madara used kamui a little ify, but you know, he's Madara the same way Batman is Batman.
it makes sense if you consider the sudden increase of chakra density, and that he was only Jyubito for 10 - 20 minutes.
making a portal once is different form spamming portals every time someone attacks you.
the difference in skill and chakra control would also effect the Jutsu by default and aid in the adjustment to the chakra difference gained form becoming the 10 tails jinchuriki.
the differences between the sharingan abilities are such:
Kakashi's eye teleports objects, whereas Obito's eye can teleport himself and the objects and people he comes into contact with.
obito didn't have the skill to adjust for the difference in chakra within the time frame and madara didn't need to adjust anything as long as he had enough chakra to rip a hole between dimensions.
Sijmply.
teleporting your body through dimensions without damaging it is harder then just making a hole between dimensions.
well technically yes every eye has one ability but in obitos case his phasing works a bit different. Obitos eye can not only suck himself in but also his surrounding area (about an arms lenght) but his phasing works passively. In his fight with Minato and Conan he isnt even using his MS but rather his base 3 Tomoe Sharingan and is still able to phase through matter. Idk where but it was stated that its an uncontious process one activated so he isnt reacting by phasing, its just happening.
10:45 Nah the tailed beasts are definitely ranked based on powers
maybe kishimoto intended for kaguya to come out of madara for a while but i wish that they gave more foreshadowing for it. like mentioning earlier in the show about how the sage of six paths is so legendary not just because he is so powerful, but because he took down some great evil or whatever. theres also literally a kaguya clan in naruto that has a derivative of her bone powers, why was she never mentioned up until just a few chapters before her appearance? theres no way that there isnt some sort of ancient text somewhere that mentions her existing and her story being in some way related to the sage of 6 paths. this build up could have been just as cool as madaras but no, they had hagoromo randomly show up and be like "yo that dudes turning into my mom go seal him up with this immense power im gonna give you" it just feels like kishimoto pulled it out of his ass to keep raising the stakes. also black zetsu being the one to do it is stupid, it would have been way better if naruto and sasuke ended up critically injuring madara so that he would sit still for just a second so they could seal him and that being what releases kaguya. they could have even had a cool perfect susanoo vs susanoo cloaked 9 tails fight in there
Bro definitely cappin for Kishimoto. As much as I love Naruto but bro wrote himself in a corner with Madara
The whole thing centering around the moon could be seen as a hint to kaguya imo but yeah more obvious stuff would be nice
15:34 its not that Fugaku was a hogagke candidate it was that he should have been a hogake candidate in the eyes of the uchia.
In Itachi shinden vol 1 this converstaion happens. "Ninja frrom the other lands trembled at the mention of ‘Wicked Eye’ Fugaku during the Great War.” "There’s talk it’s all the administration’s plan!” Yashiro shouted, and then spat out, “Village officials don’t want the Uchiha clan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato and the Sannin, and even Hatake Kakashi-who has the sharingan despite not being a member of the clan-who shone. If the people can make a fuss over Minato and Kakashi, then your name should also-”.
Fugaku had some prety high level feats in the third war and the Uchiha were rightful upset that he wasn't even in conversation for hogake.
Don't get me wrong Minato was obviously the best choice but Fugaku could have made an excellent 5th hogake, but no Danzo had to put the blame of the ninetails attack on the Uchiha.
Kishimoto: "Guns have no place in Naruto because they'd be too OP."
Kubo: "Haha guns go brrr"
Thank you for this
Mannnn
Love breaking down misconceptions, it’s kinda eye opening to realize how much people take for granted was just created out of fan headcanon. Things like “zenkai boost” were never mentioned in canon.
Thats not true??? It is directly stated that a Saiyans battle power is increased after surviving a near death experience.
The term zenkai boost is fan made but the show and manga say that saiyans get stronger after recovering from near death situations they changed it in super I believe to just saiyans get stronger as they fight
The example you used was awful
Because it’s literally just the fandom naming something that wasn’t given a name in the manga
@@morifutai1916 yet so many people think it is.
Zenkai is a fan term. It's not in the series. Vegeta first mentioned Saiyans becoming stronger through fighting and getting a large boost from recovering near death. The Daizenshuu then explains boosts from near death are smaller than usual the stronger a Saiyan becomes. Many falsely assume they stopped but it was just written out of the story.
7:21 OMG TYSM, THANK YOU
1. Uh, in the chapter Chidori is first introduced, Guy states that it is also known as Raikiri (lightning cutter) due to the fact that Kakashi used it to cut lightning in half. So them not being the same thing is a retcon, not a misconception.
2. That's a technicality. The context implies that Kishimoto meant for the Byakugan to be at least on par with the Sharingan, if not stronger. It was obviously retconned when the manga began putting more and more focus on the Uchiha clan.
3. Obito seeing Rin die caused him to lose hope and become susceptible to Madara's indoctrination. So yes, he did start the war because of her, just not directly. Besides, the way the whole incident is presented really makes it look like that's exactly what happened.
4. Kaguya may be stronger than Madara in terms of raw power, but she's nowhere near as capable a fighter as him. Kishimoto wrote Madara to be virtually untouchable. I don't think it's true that Madara had to be replaced because he was too strong, but the argument makes more sense than you give it credit for.
5. Minato and Shiki Fujin is another retcon. There's no way Kishi had all of that stuff planned out at that stage of the manga. Remember that Minato was still supposed to be stronger than Hashirama at the time. The intention was clearly for the reanimation to be stopped halfway. If reviving Minato was impossible because of external reasons, the jutsu wouldn't have worked in the first place.
6. The hard work debate is stupid and I'm sick of hearing it. Both sides are disingenuous in their positions and dismiss and misinterpret valid points made by the other side.
7. No, hand signs as such never disappeared from the story completely, but over time, techniques that didn't require hand signs became more and more prevalent, which had more or less the same effect. In all honesty, though, hand signs are really impractical if you think about it. Maybe they shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
You have a point with #5
@@zonnodon163 No... he doesn't. First, he makes the assumption that "there's no way Kishimoto had this all planned." But there's no proof of that. Second, his statement is based on the idea that "Minato is supposed to be stronger than Hashirama." But that in and of itself is a misconception. All Hiruzen says is that he might be able to take the 1st and 2nd and the same time, but not the 1st, 2nd, and 4th at once.
3rd one makes no sense. RIn was the trigger for him to be indoctrinated yes but that wasn't the sole purpose to say he started it off of rin, he himself literally states when kakashi gets angry at him for starting a war over rin, that he didn't start it over rin, he starteded it after looking at the world around him
4th one also makes no sense, you're telling me, the character that could sneak up against a EMS and rinnegan sasuke, and a naruto who basically has a juubi amp and can sense chakra, from remote islands is somehow weaker then madera, even if you give the skill arguement her hax make up for it 10 fold, Sasuke was about to just be stranded in one of her. If it wasn't for the fact that he somehow found traces of naruto's chakra, she literally has a ONESHOT move, has a byakugan which if we use hinata's as the bare scale can see up to 12 miles yea no
@@zonnodon163No, he doesn't. All of his points is his head canon.
@@dr.levionce Reread my comment, then your comment, and say that to me again.
Informative and to the point, fantastic video as always. I also see those quick discord plugs in the captions lol
AH HELL NAH i thought i was tweakin when i saw the Subtitles start bugging out bro
That "Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up Wake Up" shit got me fucked up 😂
AND HOMIE PLUGGED THE DISCORD TOO, BRO DONT SUBLIMINALLY GET ME TO GO TO YOUR FIRE ASS SERVER
Im going to be frank an state that guns would probably useless against ninja. If a casual ninja can run to the point your opponent cant see them then bullets would be kind of slow. Especialky when you can railgun kunai.
I bet more chakra makes u stronger comes from DB where ur power, speed and durability increases with just having more ki.
you should have a video of fixing war arc plot holes and bad writing decisions in the war arc
Another misconception I can think of is that orange mask Obito isn't that strong without kamui.
Tbh tho he would be a lot weaker. But not useless. He'd still be strong.
@@EntificationALTWow He would be weaker but there are some people who think that he'll only be jonin level without kamui which is ridiculous because even without it he'll be very strong.
@@Animemaster05 Ye exactly my point.
I mean in the fight against naruto, kakashi, guy, and bee, once kakashi figured out they both had kamui obito basically couldn't use it without being injured and he was still mostly winning that fight
@@Astral_Incarnate Yes exactly. Obito was still very strong without kamui but people still think that he's not that strong because of his fight against Kakashi.
Bro you are the interpreting king 👑
One problem. The one responsible for these misconceptions is often none other than Kishimoto himself. People don't realize that writing a manga isn't like writing a normal story. When you work for a manga studio, you *must* write and illustrate new chapter Every. Single. Week. So that means most mangaka are forced to make stuff up as they go along. If you push your luck for ten odd years, there's bound to be lots of inconsistencies and internal contradictions in your manga. Naruto included.
"Kishimoto made a mistake" is often enough to explain such misconceptions, instead of superfans running circles around every translation trying to justify the dodgy internal logic of their beloved series. For example...
2:35 Kishimoto meant for the Byakugan to superior to the Sharingan at that time. Kishimoto couldn't see five years into the future and didn't know where his story would take him. Namely, he didn't know he sideline the whole Hyuuga thing and focus on the Uchiha clan so much.
7:00 Kishimoto did indeed say in an interview that he has "no idea how to beat Madara." Kaguya may be stronger but she can be sealed. I don't think that same sealing technique would work on Madara.
8:42 Originally Hiruzen did indeed stop the third coffin from rising by using a "Jutsu Cancel." This is why Hiruzen clasps his hands together and roars with extreme effort. "Jutsu Cancel" was never used again because it's a dumb idea anyway. Kishimoto later retconned this several years later by writing a chapter about how Orochimaru was not able to summon the Minato because Minato's soul was already in the Death God's stomach.
11:50 I assume using Hand Signs is like incantations in Bleach. If you're particularly skilled, you can perform jutsus without needing to weave the proper signs first, but presumably the signs help make it easier.
12:12 Minato used some variation of the Reaper Death Seal. Even Orochimaru was able to conclude "so the jutsu that sealed the Nine Tails... is this." when Hiruzen used it.
you got that right
How did Kishimoto mean for the Byakugan to be superior when Kakashi literally says in that panel it's superior in some ways in terms of perception? How can you say he meant for one to be superior to the other?
How do you know the sealing jutsu wouldn't work on Madara ? they were given the very jutsu to use on him initially lol
@@3arlthegoat For the Byakugan, I would have to see the original Japanese panel. I think you're right about the Madara bit, my bad.
This video was made for people like you.
@@TheGuzeinbuick kishimoto never said he doesnt know how to kill madara. sent source
I always thought orochimaru was summoning madara and not minato. Made more sense as we later found out he didnt have access to minato
Why would his coffin say 4th if it was Madara?
Guy is just out here spreading misinformation during the chunin exam finals🤦😭
Guy not knowing or if he did know he would want to make Lee feel better.
@zelz3011 Nah I dont think Guy would lie to make Lee feel better. Thats not his character. Doing that didnt get Lee to where he was. Its more likely he is misformed/forgot.
@@RustedBuddy5192 Yeah especially because of Lee's state. He probably wouldn't even say anything if he did know maybe waiting to tell him or until he likely realized to try and motivate him.
8:54
My personal biggest plot hole because why would Hiryuzen bother trying to stop the summon if he knew it wouldn't work. And he knows this fact prior because it's why he usesvthe Reaper Death Seal on the reanimated Hokage. Though some have pointed out it could have been the fourth Kazekage he was bringing back, since the coffin just says "Four" and he would have been dead by this point.
There’s a way to undo the reaper death seal and most likely had no idea if orochimaru had done so already or not
@jd.cd2493 *That's-!* ... the best answer I've heard lol 😅
You know what the crazy part is a lot of one piece fans love to shit on other series including Naruto claiming Naruto was always this chosen one yet One Piece is basically taking the same route with Luffy but I don’t see anyone complain 🤣
It’s not hard to understand the story you just need to pay attention to it I love both series btw
This could be a video series on itself
Slight misconception about the hand signs for Chidori and Lightning Blade, the hand signs used varies but the general hand signs used for both the most frequently is Ox -> Rabbit -> Monkey. The main difference between Chidori and Lightning Blade is demonstrated PERFECTLY to Naruto by Kakashi, where first he gathers chakra in his hand in the form of a sort of flame, it's like a decompressed and non-spinning Rasengan, then he adds lightning nature to it to make the Chidori, and then he changes the shape and discharge rate to whatever Kakashi desires it to be, this creates the finished product: the Lightning Blade. This was demonstrated in one of my favorite episodes of Shippuden, episode 55 at about 5 minutes 20 seconds in, Kakashi basically breaks down how he makes the Chidori and Lightning Blade in stages and the difference between the two is clear as day. Sasuke merely took Chidori in a different direction by creating variations of Chidori rather than stepping up to the Lightning Blade. The change in chakra form for the Lightning Blade doesn't just involve the chakra in your hand, but it creates a surge all around you, it's kind of like a hybrid of Chidori and Chidori Stream when Kakashi uses Lightning Blade.
Yugito and Yagura were probably just like Naruto with KCM1, where they tamed their tailed beasts but hadn't befriended them to become Perfect Jinchuriki, although I think based on the fact that Killer Bee spoke so highly of Yugito, that Yugito was actually the latter.
As far as Itachi not being stronger than Hashirama purely based off Hashirama's statement about him, that much you're right about, BUT, you let me know if Hashirama has any counters to Tsukuyomi or the Totsuka Blade or a way to deal with the Yata Mirror. The simple fact is he doesn't. Hashirama is a mismatch and loses to Itachi purely because of hax. Hashirama's insane durability and healing factor is completely discounted when being killed by a one-shot Genjutsu or sealed by the Totsuka Blade.
Itachi could maybe beat edo hashirama but not in his prime living body,this is the same dude that's on the level of Madara and fought him many times who is stronger than itachi is,itachi fanboy moment.
@@justinarzola4584 Hashirama literally has no counter to Tsukuyomi though? Tsukuyomi can one shot insta-death anyone Itachi wants to besides, as he stated, an Uchiha Sharingan user, and by relation probably most Otsutsuki users are probably immune to it. But everyone else in the verse lowkey loses to Tsukuyomi, the only people who can beat Itachi are other Uchihas or Otsutsukis.
@@Borchert97why did no other Uchiha ever think of that? Idk if genjutsu even works on Hashirama and lowkey even if it did how can you get close to a guy who can create a forest spontaneously
@@brandonmyles5005 Tsukuyomi isn't the same as standard Sharingan Genjutsu, it happens instantaneously and cannot be broken out of by conventional means. The only stated way to break out is to be an Uchiha with a strong enough Sharingan. We can by extension also assume Otsutsukis would have similar resistance or immunity, so that's it.
@@Borchert97 you still have to be looking into his eyes. Tsukiyomi isnt doing anything to a guy that can stand atop golems and emerge from deep forests. if getting Hashirama to look you in the eyes was so easy Madara would’ve done it
3:25 i thought the plot hole was that madara is using the wrong eye to teleport. Kakashi’s eye does long range teleportation and can’t teleport himself. Not that you can’t use kamui with the ten tails inside of you .
Kakashi's eye can do short range and even teleport himself. He literally does it to leave the kamui dimension after Obito puts him in it.
Kakashi eye can change where it opens the portal so more or less any range. Kakashi doesnt go intangible.
So while yes ppl used to harp on the idea that madara shouldnt be able to use the eye like that. The argument transitioned over time to shouldnt be able to with the jubi inside of him because thats whats being referenced actually
@@AtenSol12 ok that’s good because i aways thought kakashi couldn’t teleport himself but if he can their ain’t a plot hole.
Kakashis eye isnt specifically long range kamui
All it does is open a portal to kamui dimension, whether long range or short range
While obito can only use kamui on himself or things hes touching
Pretty good video Six. You nailed most of these on the head, but I will absolutely die on the hill that Chidori and Lightning Blade are the same jutsu. There IS a distinction between them, but that distinction is only that Kakashi once cut a lightning bolt with his Chidori, earning it a nickname. If anything, you could also argue that the Raikiri is also a more mastered form of the Chidori, but honestly this doesn't make it a new jutsu. The two are no more different than the Rasengan is from the Giant Rasengan or the Vermillion Rasengan, for example. Sorry for being pedantic, I just really needed to get that out of my system.
I think that Obito never told Nagato and Konan that rinne rebirth cost´s one´s life, and konan only thought that Nagato would die because of chakra depletion
I think one common one you missed is that tobirama was killed by “20 S rank ninja.”
Nah that’s fax. It’s never stated that the Kinkaku unit was all S rank Shinobi. (Kinkaku himself was for sure by then). Tobirama just calls them “highly skilled”.
it's true
Dygoknight needs to see this 😂
Another misconception is that you only need Senju and Uchiha blood to awaken the Rinnegan. However, it's stated that Asura and Indra chakra aka Hagoromo Six Paths Chakra is need to awaken the Rinnegan. Which is why Danzo didn't awaken the Rinnegan, thankfully!
no you do, not just the cells of such
Danzo didn't have Uchiha blood though, the most he had was Senju cells and a bunch of sharingans
This is great stuff. Although I'm not so sure about the shadow clone one. If you can put as much chakra as you want in them wouldn't that mean more people can do multi shadow clones? I thought it made more sense that it has to be even and is why Naruto is able to do it because he has more chakra. Then when their destroyed the chakra returns.
As far as I know, the difference between chidori and lighting blade is that while both have a change in chakra nature, the raikiri has a change in chakra form as well. That being the "blade" part of the lighting blade. This is shown by the raikiri having a sharper pointed shape while the chidori normally just looks like a ball of lightning in the hand.
Chidori is mostly shown to be lightning around a pointed hand. It's only depicted as a ball like twice. The entire point of Chidori is that it makes your hand indestructible so you can stab people.
Guy literally says that raikiri is a chidori when Kakashi uses it. It got the name after Kakashi managed to cut the lightning with it thus the name "lightning cutter" in literal translation. It's the same thing and that's why we've never seen him use it again after losing sharingan because he doesn't have kinetic vision anymore, he replaced it with purple lightning which is overall a better jutsu for long long/midrange
Might have to do this for Dragon Ball. I’m gonna have to be a lawyer for Goku.
Neji wasn’t right, yes Naruto was destined for greatness, however the whole series is based off of the decisions that Naruto made. Naruto was also destined to murder sasuke, however he even realized this and decided to save sasuke instead, thus re writing his own destiny. Which in theory makes Neji wrong.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
As far the eye pigmentation and sage mode, isn't the sign of a mastered sage the lack of notable signs?
The sign of mastered sage mode is not developing physical traits of the animal you learned sage mode from, but the eyes are always distinct with coloration of some sort around them for all users of normal sage mode variants. Naruto's six paths sage mode is the only exception to this as it does not have any coloration around the eyes.
Imperfect Toad Sage Mode slowly turns you more and more into a toad until you eventually become a stone toad statue whereas being perfected just gives you the pigmentation. If you re-read/watch or even just look up pictures of Sage Jiraiya, his appearance changes as time goes on.
@@collinleivas9605 right, but do you NEED pigmentation to be a sage? Or are you a better sage without it?
@@ChaosDragon they are because no one has ever mastered it.
@@babaG819 Pigmentation not existing is solely for Six Paths Sage Mode, every other form of Sage Mode has pigmentation. So, no, unless in regards to Six Paths Sage Mode, pigmentation does not signify someone as being a better sage.
Jokes on you. I can't read
What about the misconception that Power arc in Naruto Shippuden is originally a movie?
Kakuzu still beats Pain because of raw durability
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bro what?
Soul stealing ability beats multiple hearts
For some who don't understand, this is a joke in the Naruto community.
Can you make a video on when naruto surpassed minato? Ive seen a guy on instagram make a whole detailed post on why the kakazu fight naruto surpassed minato. Theres statements saying he needs the rasenshuriken in order to surpass the 4th, and then later at the pain fight, tsunade sees a vision of minato and jiraiya around naruto and fukasaku then says that naruto surpassed his predeccesors. I personally think its just that the rasenshuriken surpasses any rasengan minato made, and that naruto perfecting sage mode allowed him to surpass jiraiya since naruto was perfect sage and jiraiya was an imperfect sage. It just doesnt add up that rasenshuriken naruto would surpass hokage minato.
I agree it does not add up at all, granted minato is not a raw power based fighter, but even then people are just pushing agenda
NO YOU!!!!!!!
1:22 love the mandela catalogue reference
Sasuke catching up to lees speed in 15 days is fucking stupid
Sasuke just working hard for the first time.
Almost like sasuke is a prodigy😱
Didn't the 9 tails say if the 10 tail was pulled from u, u die
Bc once u become the 10 tails, get some kinda resistance bc of all of pure energy u get from being da ten tails
One of the biggest misconceptions to me is everybody thinking Itachi planted shisuis eye into the crow so he can use it on himself, they say he’s so smart for doing that, but he planted the eye in the crow, then the crow into Naruto so the eye could be used on sasuke and have sasuke protect the leaf
I mean, he verbally explains this shortly after he used it on himself.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
The part about minato being in the coffin just doesn't make sense at all, since his soul was in the belly of the reaper and since the coffin is the transporting device for an Edo tensei, he should've at first used edo tensei, which he couldn't perform on minato. Orochimaru could've summoned any other strong person from history, he had access to all recent uchiha, just think about that =))) kinda dumb on his part he didn't revive more people like kabuto did, he would probably own the world by now, also dumn Kabuto didn't revive any uchihas other than Madara and Itachi
The dumbest thing about the madara one is that he was going to lose anyways, he was on his last leg
The lee chakra one pisses me off cause someone was insistent upon it but when the gates are explained it says they remove the limiters of CHAKRA flow thru the body. Like cmon just actually read/pay attention while watching
Ok, on the whole tied to your destiny thing right, what if it was his destiny to break the cycle of hatred, then technically neji would have been right all along, just something I was thinking about
Fugaku being equal to Minato is from NC HAMMER head Canon statements. He says a lot of shit that gets spoken like its factual when it isnt
The weird thing about orochimaru not being able to summon minato, at least to me, is that he shouldn't have even been able to summon a coffin in the first place. The way edo tensei works is that you need to sacrifice a living person to transform them essentially into whoever you're trying to summon. In order to summon the coffins orochimaru would have needed to perform the edo tensei to summon the hokage and place them into the coffins before the fight with hiruzen, meaning he shouldn't have been able to fill and summon a third coffin unless it held someone who wasn't minato. Unless it was supposed to work that orochimaru had his henchmen sleeping in the coffins or something and sacrificed them while summoning the hokage.
This is one of the best video on Haruto. Please do more on Rock Lee and Neji.
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
Let's talk about Lee. While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring).
Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 Man, are you just spamming this?
@@ДавидГригорьев-ф3ж Yup.
@@thewiseyounglad2699I'm not disagreeing with you, I actually think you're right.)
Those sneaky discord plugs in the subtitles are slick
Rn I think one of the most notable discussion is whether nerfed adult Naruto scales above war arc. I think it’s clear he does in some areas for sure, kinda like how base goku just surpasses his previous forms.
Lol you from Mello?
The Naruto who fought Sasuke at the end of the War is stronger than Adult Naruto before Baryon mode.
Baryon Mode is obviously stronger than everything, but Adult Naruto's SOSP isn't as powerful as his War Arc version.
Simply because, it's worn down.
Adult Naruto is more experienced, a better fighter, a better strategist than War Arc, has a Fake arm that absorbs Justu.
But End War Arc Naruto's Power feats are greater than anything Adult Naruto had shown in his fights against the Otsutsuki (except Baryon Mode)
End of War Arc Naruto was flying, had all of his Truth Seeking Orbs, shown mastery of different Rasengan styles, Reviving people from death, Two Real Arms.
The same way Sasuke at the end of the war was the strongest he ever was, Absorbed 8 bijuus for his Perfected Susanoo.
That Sasuke has everything Adult Sasuke has and more. The only difference is experience with Rinnegan, which Adult Sasuke doesn't really show much of a difference.
War Arc Naruto matched that Sasuke while holding back. Adult Sasuke is clearly weaker than his War arc version.
So the assumption off based knowledge would be Adult Naruto is weaker than his End of War Arc version, Physically.
But Adult Naruto is stronger in aspects of experience.
Power doesn't mean everything...that much is a theme proven throughout all of Naruto.
It's impossible to say who'd win in a fight.
but Base Adult Naruto vs Base End of War Arc Naruto would probably be a better fight to analyze.
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Was Naruto and Sasuke nerfed in Boruto? Yes and No. This is gonna be a long one, but let me explain.
Boruto era Naruto and Sasuke would ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE their Shippuden counterparts physically(i.e., power, speed, etc) . It's no question that as adults, they would beat their teenage selves half to death. BUT! Naruto and Sasuke aren't using NEARLY ANY of the powers they have at their disposal.
Let's start with Naruto first. He is still technically the connection point for all of the Tailed Beast to keep in contact with each other(they haven't said anything to the contrary yet) so he should still be able to use their abilities when needed, like:
1 Tails: Creates markings on any attack that seals an opponent's movements. Pair this with the chakra limbs Naruto creates, and he basically has the steroid version of his mom's sealing chains.
2 Tails: Blue Fire that's hotter than all others(except maybe amaterasu). Add that to his Rasenshuriken, and his strongest move gets stronger. If he doesn't want the attack to get absorbed, throw it near the enemy and let the explosion do the work.
3 Tails: Creates Coral. Add Naruto's INSANE chakra to the mix, and you have amazing defensive barriers.
4 Tails: Lava. I don't know if he could fuse the lava armor with his chakra cloak, but he can at least add both that and his blue flames to his Rasenshuriken.
5 Tails: BOIL RELEASE! Naruto's personal Kaio-Ken multiplier. Enough said.
6 Tails: Poison. Add that to any attack to slowly wear down an enemy(preferably his truth seeking orb weapons, but we will get to that later).
7 Tails: Blinding light... powder? Don't know the specifics of what it is, but it could blind an enemy for a sucker punch or two.
8 Tails: Replace shadow clones with ink clones that can do all of the same things AND seal an enemy's movements when they are destroyed.
9 Tails: It's fine, Naruto already uses this to the best of his abilities.
And if Naruto can't use the other Tailed Beast abilities anymore, then what's stopping him from asking for more chakra in a dire situation through the link he has with them?
Truth Seeking Orbs: I believe three of them got destroyed in Kaguya's dimension, another three got destroyed in his clash with Sasuke, but the final three should still be collecting dust when he used them to seal Madara(or his limbo clone). If Naruto collected them, he would be able to fly and create weapons that would be able to withstand being coated in the 6 Tails poison. He should still be able to use them since he still has SO6P Sage mode(The Sage of Six Paths took the seals on Naruto and Sasuke's palms before their final battle where they blew each others arms off blah blah blah). Though he seems to have lost it when he lost Kurama.
And Finally, Asura Avatar: If Naruto left a Clone to collect Nature energy whenever he heads off into battle, then he would be able to transform his Kurama Avatar into the three headed six arm Asura Avatar in a pinch.
For Sasuke, it's even worse because I had to use SOME conjecture to defend my Naruto points, but Sasuke needs NONE of that.
The Sharingan can slow down the user's perception of time for Taijutsu, copy ninjutsu, and cast powerful genjustu. Fine. But Sasuke only uses ONE of his TWO Mangekyo abilities. Has amaterasu for days, but never uses his flame control to manipulate his amaterasu in different ways that could catch an Otsutsuki off guard(like coating his sword with it so that every slash places the flames IN your body).
And don't get me started on his Rinnegan. The eye that gives him MULTIPLE abilities that he DOESNT use(except teleportation). For example:
Deva path: He uses it SOMETIMES, but never to FLY LIKE PAIN DID!
Asura path: Could replace his lost arm with an expendable robotic one in a fight that could shoot missiles and chakra lasers, but no(if the Asura arm cant be absorbed, then neither can the missiles).
Naraka Path: Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's healing factor but can still heal himself as long as Naruto gives him time.
Human and Animal Path: Comes with various uses against weaker enemies, but against Otsutsuki, would only pose as a distraction at best. I can see why Sasuke doesn't use these honestly.
Preta Path: Sasuke's always running out of chakra and never uses this shit to get more. And if Nauto is there, he can absorb some of his NEAR INFINITE AMOUNTS OF CHAKRA(its absurd how much Naruto has) to transform his Perfect Susano'o into his blue and purple Indra Susano'o.
While most of Naruto's and Sasuke's abilities might be useless against Otsutsuki, let's not forget that they are NINJA! No matter how strong Naruto or Sasuke gets, stealth trickery and deception are their bread and butter. All they gotta do is add some creativity to the mix, and Ishiki would be sweating. But Naruto and Sasuke don't fight like ninja. They fight like Otsutsuki.
And if you are wondering if the two could defeat Jigen if they used all of their abilities? I believe so. Ishiki? Even if the two fused the Asura Avatar and Indra Susano'o, I doubt it. But they would definitely give him a hard time.
How about all dem Shisui misconceptions. Those are always good ones.
This may not be relevant, but people actually think that Boruto isn't in the Naruto manga, even though he is clearly shown in chapter 700. (And also chapters 701-710 of the Shin Uchiha story, which has Naruto as the title)