The Scram 411 finds its origins in the Royal Enfield Himalayan. While the Himalayan is an out and out adventure tourer, the Scram 411 does most of it, while being a better on-road bike. So, which one would you buy between the two? Do let us know in the comments below.
You asked for opinions, which would the viewer choose? Test rode a Scram and bought a new one. Over 45 years of riding I'd forgotten the spirit and soul of motorcycling - the Scram has returned it. First service and borrow the demo bike again for 100 miles. Then a service on my Interceptor (yes, seduced by that as well - traded a Z900RS for the two Royal Enfields!) and was loaned a Himalayan for another 100 or so miles. Having ridden three 411cc machines now, I can see a difference between the Scram and Himalayan. To give a conclusion before saying anything more - If pushed, I'm happy that I picked a Scram, but I'd have either/any one of them and be delighted. The Scram /may/ just have an edge on real dirty back lanes. The Himalayan holds a stronger line around a faster curve - good back roads or better - than the Scram, but the Scram is equally precise and easy handling as well. Set up the Himalayan and it's on rails, but corrections on the Himalayan need a little more effort where the Scram handles in a more lively way, due no doubt to the smaller front wheel. The Himalayan seems a little different in suspension. I believe there are small differences in the set up of the two, in suspension travel. Again, so similar, just noticeable. Having a headlight fixed on the Himalayan, as main frame mounted, or 'steerable' on the forks as on the Scram, may affect choice. Not to mention the Himalayan screen which some will dislike, or if they do like a screen may have a view on frame or fork mounting. There is a subtle difference in where the light points when cornering and the 'straight ahead' fixation makes for a different riding sensation even in daylight. Personally, I've always been quite happy with fairing mounted lights pointing ahead, but no preference in either - nor any problem with the screen, which is very good, or with no screen. I've been soaked twice on the Scrams, caught out with a poor weather forecast and the wrong clothes. Absolutely confident in the wet each time on the standard Ceat tyres - which surprised me. I didn't go out in the wet on the Himalayan, but I suspect it's just as good. On both of the soaking wet rides - each about 60 miles - I still felt keen to have done much more. It's a long time since any bike has made me want to keep riding. Add to that, both models are incredibly comfortable so no problem with distance - another aspect that my older body now reacts badly to many other bikes. With running in passed there is a lovely torquey engine opening up. There has been NO problem keeping up with road legal traffic on anything but dual carriageways. Modern traffic is so strangled that the Scram is perfectly capable of nipping by much of it except those drivers (and bikes) who have manhood issues. It's a superbly relaxed ride with time to see the scenery, which after a lot of superbikes, a pleasure I'd forgotten. Yet stir the box and it's engaging. You feel like you're not just merely wafting along on a sniff of throttle. What would I want on a long trip or touring? If it were to get somewhere quick on dual roads - a sports tourer, RT? GS? Maybe, but nope - probably a car! But if the route was my choice and time not an issue? Heck, I want to tour on this Scram.
Nice unexpected review. I'm trying to decide between both of them, and one thing I wish I could incorporate in the Scram is a windshield like the one in the Himalayan, only because of the adverse weather you get here in the UK, a decent windshield makes a lot of difference with front winds. Thank you.
Yes the scram has a place in the market. But the himalayan is so badass and practical I love the dual tank capability so you can go wherever no worries about running out of gas or water. The only low priced adventure bike yet solid quality. The scram is a solid bike but the himalayan is legend!
I do love the dashboard on the Himalayan at night, but during the day the graphics of the 411 are much sweeter. Can't compare them, both of them are really good bikes. Give the Himalayan a bigger fuel tank and upgrade the dashboard of the 411 and you have two unbelievable bikes.
Intrigued, definitely Intrigued. I have been looking at the Himalayan for a while now but with the scram release I might just go with the scram. Already have a touring bike, just need something to cruise dirt/gravel roads in my area. Any word on their USA release?
I'm going to check out the Scram 411 if and when it makes it to the US. A pair of them would make for nice, relaxing overland and WMA (wildlife management area) exploration. The Himalayan is a bit more bike than my wife and I need for the casual riding and exploration we would use them for.
apart from specifications and features your should upload a video of onroad riding experience of both. i would be a more pragmatic approach of comparison of both the bikes in real sense I Guess .🤠
I would not buy either one. Both are way too heavy for a 400cc with low HP. The Scram is pointless, RE should have invested the budget in improving the Himalayan instead of creating a near clone.
the Scram lacks the personality of the Himalayan. i just sold an old honda cx500 and have been looking for something that has an individual personality but with out the old bike issue . this could be it
I have the Meteor and rode Himalayan both are pretty smooth but the engines are different. The meteor has a little rumble feel/ sound when you first get going and then becomes exceptionally smooth. The Himalayan a busy at idle But then once you get going it’s moves out pretty well
The 411 was a waste of R&D and production cost.. There is nothing that it does, that the Himalayan can't do better.. I would have preferred to see a 500 single or 650 twin in a Himilayan..
Scram 411 is more affordable? Itna ghatiya statement, bro scram 411 jayada costly hai buz usme ABS switchable nahi hai, main stand nahi hai, tank guard nahi hai, navigation nahi hai, 🧭compass nahi hai aur luggage rack bhi nahi hai. Rate ka diffrence 10k to 12k ka hai To jayada costly kaun se hai dost.
Even when suggested don't get the single channel abs with rear drum in the classic 350 they are really bad the drum makes noise 1000kms after every service and it's a little irritating to ride
If you don't like it, you go on, no need to bring down a real good machine. The KTM isn't that good either, in offroad it's beaten by BMW, Triumph, ... on the road, the Hayabusa is using the KTM as a mop to keep the track clean LOL. Royal Enfield is a wonderful bike, all depends on what you want in life. Some want mountains, some want a beach others stay home with their family. Don't be so aggressive, karma is never far away.
The Scram 411 finds its origins in the Royal Enfield Himalayan. While the Himalayan is an out and out adventure tourer, the Scram 411 does most of it, while being a better on-road bike. So, which one would you buy between the two? Do let us know in the comments below.
Lazy pure laziness on part of re
@@atsonaga5520 they have a LOT more amazing motorcycles planned for the future. If you don't get the point of the scram don't buy it. easy
@@arjunarun3033 neither a scrambler nor an offroader unlike himalayan xpulse
You asked for opinions, which would the viewer choose?
Test rode a Scram and bought a new one. Over 45 years of riding I'd forgotten the spirit and soul of motorcycling - the Scram has returned it. First service and borrow the demo bike again for 100 miles. Then a service on my Interceptor (yes, seduced by that as well - traded a Z900RS for the two Royal Enfields!) and was loaned a Himalayan for another 100 or so miles.
Having ridden three 411cc machines now, I can see a difference between the Scram and Himalayan. To give a conclusion before saying anything more - If pushed, I'm happy that I picked a Scram, but I'd have either/any one of them and be delighted.
The Scram /may/ just have an edge on real dirty back lanes. The Himalayan holds a stronger line around a faster curve - good back roads or better - than the Scram, but the Scram is equally precise and easy handling as well. Set up the Himalayan and it's on rails, but corrections on the Himalayan need a little more effort where the Scram handles in a more lively way, due no doubt to the smaller front wheel.
The Himalayan seems a little different in suspension. I believe there are small differences in the set up of the two, in suspension travel. Again, so similar, just noticeable.
Having a headlight fixed on the Himalayan, as main frame mounted, or 'steerable' on the forks as on the Scram, may affect choice. Not to mention the Himalayan screen which some will dislike, or if they do like a screen may have a view on frame or fork mounting. There is a subtle difference in where the light points when cornering and the 'straight ahead' fixation makes for a different riding sensation even in daylight. Personally, I've always been quite happy with fairing mounted lights pointing ahead, but no preference in either - nor any problem with the screen, which is very good, or with no screen.
I've been soaked twice on the Scrams, caught out with a poor weather forecast and the wrong clothes. Absolutely confident in the wet each time on the standard Ceat tyres - which surprised me. I didn't go out in the wet on the Himalayan, but I suspect it's just as good. On both of the soaking wet rides - each about 60 miles - I still felt keen to have done much more. It's a long time since any bike has made me want to keep riding. Add to that, both models are incredibly comfortable so no problem with distance - another aspect that my older body now reacts badly to many other bikes.
With running in passed there is a lovely torquey engine opening up. There has been NO problem keeping up with road legal traffic on anything but dual carriageways. Modern traffic is so strangled that the Scram is perfectly capable of nipping by much of it except those drivers (and bikes) who have manhood issues.
It's a superbly relaxed ride with time to see the scenery, which after a lot of superbikes, a pleasure I'd forgotten. Yet stir the box and it's engaging. You feel like you're not just merely wafting along on a sniff of throttle.
What would I want on a long trip or touring? If it were to get somewhere quick on dual roads - a sports tourer, RT? GS? Maybe, but nope - probably a car!
But if the route was my choice and time not an issue? Heck, I want to tour on this Scram.
Nice unexpected review.
I'm trying to decide between both of them, and one thing I wish I could incorporate in the Scram is a windshield like the one in the Himalayan, only because of the adverse weather you get here in the UK, a decent windshield makes a lot of difference with front winds.
Thank you.
I would prefer himalayan thx bro it's helpful 👌 💯
After watching the Scram 411, it a teardown version of Himalayan, Yezdi Scramble feels fresher, potent & beautiful
Yes the scram has a place in the market. But the himalayan is so badass and practical I love the dual tank capability so you can go wherever no worries about running out of gas or water. The only low priced adventure bike yet solid quality. The scram is a solid bike but the himalayan is legend!
I do love the dashboard on the Himalayan at night, but during the day the graphics of the 411 are much sweeter. Can't compare them, both of them are really good bikes. Give the Himalayan a bigger fuel tank and upgrade the dashboard of the 411 and you have two unbelievable bikes.
For Taller Riders The Himalayan makes more sense✅
Intrigued, definitely Intrigued. I have been looking at the Himalayan for a while now but with the scram release I might just go with the scram. Already have a touring bike, just need something to cruise dirt/gravel roads in my area. Any word on their USA release?
RE should have offered alloys or atleast given them as optional
It would be hideous with alloys
@@athullal7438 true but less risky
@@Quenchedfooty Less risky? Spoke wheels are more durable than alloys.
@@athullal7438 punctures scare me.
Adventure bike comes with spoke wheels
I'm going to check out the Scram 411 if and when it makes it to the US. A pair of them would make for nice, relaxing overland and WMA (wildlife management area) exploration. The Himalayan is a bit more bike than my wife and I need for the casual riding and exploration we would use them for.
I like the Himalayan a lot but I think I actually fancy the 411 a bit more
apart from specifications and features your should upload a video of onroad riding experience of both. i would be a more pragmatic approach of comparison of both the bikes in real sense I Guess .🤠
Hi this is Naman I only see bikewale website and TH-cam videos, please please bring a video comparison Ducati and kawasaki , trying to buy anyone
Any idea on Himalaya 450 and Himalaya 650 launch date ? Most awaited bike RE Shot Gun 650..any idea on launch date and details ??
Most probably December this year.
@@devenfulia7064 which one??shot gun??or Himalaya 650?
Him 650 is still 2 years away.
@@santhoshr9403 shot gun 650
Good concise review thanks
Ideally the scram should have been 20 kgs lighter
and the Himalayan 30kgs lighter. 😍
I would not buy either one. Both are way too heavy for a 400cc with low HP.
The Scram is pointless, RE should have invested the budget in improving the Himalayan instead of creating a near clone.
Okay
How can we order these from South Africa ?
Plz compare Scram11 with Yezdi Scrambler
Coming soon on BikeWale, Madhu :D
Which one suits for the taller rider
the Scram lacks the personality of the Himalayan. i just sold an old honda cx500 and have been looking for something that has an individual personality but with out the old bike issue . this could be it
We believe the Scram 411 is introduced to continue the legacy of the Himalayan 411, once it is discontinued after the launch of Himalayan 450.
We believe the Scram 411 is introduced to continue the legacy of the Himalayan 411, once it is discontinued after the launch of Himalayan 450.
Himalayan forever ❤🔥
Is the 411 engine counter balanced like the new 350?
I have the Meteor and rode Himalayan both are pretty smooth but the engines are different. The meteor has a little rumble feel/ sound when you first get going and then becomes exceptionally smooth. The Himalayan a busy at idle But then once you get going it’s moves out pretty well
The 411 was a waste of R&D and production cost.. There is nothing that it does, that the Himalayan can't do better.. I would have preferred to see a 500 single or 650 twin in a Himilayan..
Scram 411 is more affordable?
Itna ghatiya statement, bro scram 411 jayada costly hai buz usme ABS switchable nahi hai, main stand nahi hai, tank guard nahi hai, navigation nahi hai, 🧭compass nahi hai aur luggage rack bhi nahi hai.
Rate ka diffrence 10k to 12k ka hai
To jayada costly kaun se hai dost.
Himalayan is Beast that's the comment 🔥🔥🔥
Love that bike
Now m confused because I love every bike of Enfield
If you're confused then take jawa scrambler
Scram 411 or Classic 350? For daily use and weekend rides?
Scram
Even when suggested don't get the single channel abs with rear drum in the classic 350 they are really bad the drum makes noise 1000kms after every service and it's a little irritating to ride
New classic is really overpriced
The 411 dose it for me.
I do call it a road bike rather than scrambler. Yezdi scrambler is far more better in the design.
Please share some information about the possible launch of KTM Duke 390 2022 and Duke 490 @bikewale
Hi when is lunching Honda cb 150x
Dont think this bike will come to India.
Es arta la diferencia entre estas dos royal
Scram is 185kg not 194
DRY WEIGHT
Why the took out the centre stand😡😡
I will choose himalayan
hima 450 on its way its is worth to buy 411 himalayan ...
Waiting for Ducati panigale V2 Troy Bayliss edition review.
you wont get one for 4 grand.your on the wrong channel.
Himalayan is better option for me
Cool host
You too😍
Scram 411🤠🤠🤠
Scram 411
Himalayan
Neither any good for tall riders, plus nobody likes black engines.
None
Scram design atcha nahi hain
Sundar Pichai
Neither of them 😂 increase your budget and go for better bikes like KTM etc.
Suggest a scrambler bike from ktm🤣
If you don't like it, you go on, no need to bring down a real good machine. The KTM isn't that good either, in offroad it's beaten by BMW, Triumph, ... on the road, the Hayabusa is using the KTM as a mop to keep the track clean LOL. Royal Enfield is a wonderful bike, all depends on what you want in life. Some want mountains, some want a beach others stay home with their family. Don't be so aggressive, karma is never far away.
@@BELGIANAYCHANNEL while you were preaching about karma , you should have read your comment again