Owned mine for well over a year. A few annoying niggles but dealer always up for helping resolve. Take it from me ..this bike doesn't need more power. For back road riding its nothing short of brilliant. Comments regarding exhaust. Its called AUTOSOL. A new model for me will spoil a massively underrated machine. The old man actually sold this to me last year. 5foot 6. The best riding position out there. May even buy another one while stocks last. It will get the progress treatment and like most things it won't be for the better.
Everyone is anticipating the Himalayan 450, which will probably have a scram version. But RE are also planning on a Scram 440, which is essentially the Scram 411 with a big bore kit from the factory. Not sure what other features it will get (like the new display that links to your phone so you can use your own map software, rather than the Google connected navigation thing on it at the moment) or if it will be basically the same as the current model. It will get a bit more juice to comfortably go on the motorway and make it a better all rounder I think. Also there is the Scram 650 coming which is a modified interceptor, called the "Bear". Personally I'm looking at the scram 440 the most, as it will be a slightly more powerful and refined version of the old Himalayan platform I hope. The 450 looks good but is adding extra tech and moving towards the current mainstream of adventure bikes, which is not what the Himalayan platform was popular for I think.
can i prefer it over metoer 350 i will use for 1yr i need pickup and looks and i will give it to my father who needs comfort riding position i'm really confused help me out!
I'm looking forward to buying one in early 24 test rode one last year could not afford one then but liked it so its thumbs up from Ireland and a local royal Enfield dealer is just 25 miles away and wow what a breath off free air proper dealer
I've owned a Scram since August and have ridden almost 3000 km. This motorcycle has charm and stands out from the crowd of other bikes. It brings a smile to my face and it has what is called an addictive factor. Anyone who can screw screws does all the maintenance themselves and saves a lot of money, no need to unscrew any plastic lumps. Often in life less is more. My other three bikes are currently resting. Greetings from Germany
USA owner here, and you got it exactly right. The bike has "just enough". It's surprising how much I enjoy mine as it replaced a Tiger 800! And these really wake up after initial run-in.
This bike is a dream. I chose it based on a little research, gut instinct, and looks. I’ve been driving it daily for over a year and it’s always a dream, a blast, and leaves me wanting to ride it more. What an incredible deal from RE. If it fits your needs, it can’t be beat…for what it is made for; getting around the city and country in varying road conditions, blasting through traffic and really experiencing the ride. Old skool. Awesome.
If you want something that never goes wrong and goes well, get a Scram 411 and put a decent exhaust and air filter on it and jobs a good one. I got my mechanic to re map mine so its quick and smooth.
I ride this cool bike for 12 month. Almost everyday in Vienna city traffic for short and mid distances. Some weekends I enjoy some little tours on country side close to my city. I love it and I think it is even an alternativ for a car in urban areas. 24PS is OK but sometimes I feel it could be a bit more. But so I save some local taxes. All the best, Roman from Vienna (Austria)
I own one, and what you say is spot on. It’s low tech, light, economical, it rides and handles absolutely beautifully, it’s extremely nimble and you can really throw it about and zip around corners. The lack of power actually adds to the fun, although it does have just enough to cope with life on the motorway. It’s simplicity and rawness are its very best points. I wonder if the new 450 version manages to retain all these things ?
@@MauriceTarantulas Yea, I mean I get what you're saying, the 411 looks somewhat more raw, idk kind of like a simple design. The new one does not has that factor but I guess with different color schemes and future updates people will certainly get used to it.
@@percentbigfoot Sure plus for people who have a 2nd bike the new Himmy could be a great addition for off road stuff (dont get me wrong I'd like a bit more power when fully laden but forces me to diet n run which is a good thing...lose a few kg)
I like the honest review. I've owned mine for over a year now and I still enjoy riding it every time I get on it. Its not a bike to go mach 3 on... its a bike that allows the rider to have total freedom and take in the surroundings. It'll suit riders who have come through the other side of owning big/fast machines and appreciate riding at a more tranquil pace. The bike can handle most environments and its a good addition to any small collection.
I've had my scram for over a year and ride all year round in the US. I added a windscreen for the cold days and it makes quite a difference. I'm a 5'6" female rider and the weight isn't an issue and the suspension compresses to allow for full confidence having at least 1 foot down at stops. With heavy clutch work I noticed my forearm getting tired but I installed Hitchcock's adjustable levers which look great and bring the levers a bit closer for better comfort. I wish for a little more power honestly but only when I'm riding with my friends who have speed twin 900s.
I bought mine at the end of August, ex demo, ridiculously low price. I was umming and arrring about the Honda Cl500 and waiting for the Triumph but at the end of the day the price said "buy me". I love It. It's great on rough roads as well as main roads. I took It on a dual carriageway and It was happy enough at 120km/h, very windy day so didn't try any faster. Great bike!
This is a second bike for me. It may be short on power, But i so enjoy riding this machine. Great on green lanes and def brings a smile to your life. So easy to ride, with a great fuel consumption..
Royal Enfield’s best kept secret. A moderate displacement bike with a good sized frame for larger riders. Why wait for the liquid cooled 451? This bike is mechanically simpler. RE will likely go through some quality growing pains initially with their first liquid cooled offering. The 411 is just a Swiss army knife type of bike. I was going to pass on this bike. Thought I would be buying a classic or meteor. Then I RODE this one. It just blew everything else away in terms of grin factor. This bike is unreal for relaxed riding. You don’t feel cramped, the fuel economy is awesome. Mechanically simple and under-stressed. I bought one… can you tell?🤣
"Cows love to lick Royal Enfields"" Thanks for the laugh mate!! Ride safe. Cheers from NZ. The Scram is cool btw...well, I think so. Like many, I've watched Itchy Boots trying out the new bike, and without it being a review, it obviously has twice (or a great deal more) the power. And it sounds sweet. But we don't know the price yet. And anyway, it's horses for courses right? The Scram has a cool factor. It really does, and it's backed up by buyers who love it. I'm glad both bikes exist. :)
Great video 👍I’m really pleased that you and your dad point out the usability and enjoyment of riding of these lower powered bikes ! Fast bikes encourage us to go faster and we all need to ride for fun Not speed 👍 keep up the good work
I had one of these on loan whilst my Interceptor was in for a service. I only rode on local roads mainly town and some country roads and it was perfectly adequate. I only noticed the low power a could of times when it couldn’t out accelerate a white van, once you realise that then you are ok. Physically it’s quite big, it’s larger than my Interceptor so it suits you being tall. I would have the Interceptor over this but if I had £4500 budget then the 411 would be a great choice, but I think the Hunter runs it close if you stick to roads. Like the videos keep them coming.
Fantastic review and bike. It would be my first pick right now, but rumor has it 650 scrambler is coming and 450 himalayan/scram. So I will wait a few more months to see. Royal enfield is on fire lately.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan itchy boots is now riding the new Himalayan in the Himalayas. RE gave one to ride to the Himalayas... I believe it hasn't been launched to the public yet.
No 650 off roader due, however I do know that RE are going to launch 650 adventure bike late 2024/25. Will go up against bikes like honda cb500x, not off road focused apparently.
My favourite RE. I'd rather have a two-valve, air-cooled single than the new four-valve liquid-cooled one, whatever it looks like. It needs a bench seat. You could go anywhere on the 411, long distance no problem. I did it on a Yamaha XT500E in the '80s. Not convinced by the supposed pleasure of wringing everything out of an engine. I prefer short shifting. Excellent review, Mr Darcy. Nick J
I for one hope to chop my cb500x honda in for the new 452, I have no intention of wringing its neck cos I'm bit too long in the tooth for that. After many motorcycles I have found that 35 to 40 hp is absolutely rock bottom minimum for my needs. Personal preference. Ride safe.
The new Himalayan doesn't look as good as the old one. It's more curvy and 'styled' but less industrial. That's pre-production but I think the final will be much the same.
I’m one of the guys waiting for the 450 version to show up. Word I got from a UK bike reviewer was that the Himalayan 450 and the Roadster 450 would be first off the assembly line with the Scram 450 showing up in 2025. I hope he was wrong. I’m pushing 72 with a very short stick and waiting is no longer my strong suit. Why 450 ? Aside from the fact that a 500 single is my dream bike. My nearest city is two hours away at 110 mph, roughly 70 mph, and the drivers here are impatient. Why the Scram ? I want a street bike that has some off-road capabilities not an off-road bike with some street abilities. So I wait until the big city bike show in February to see the Himalayan and determine if waiting another year is feasible. By-the-by, great review, I always look forward to reading what you and the Old Man are about. Cheers from Canada.
A good review, Mr Darcy. The Scram is good for the price, and it’s an ideal bike for tinkering with; easy to work on and to modify. There are also alternative camshafts to increase power by about 20%. People may think the new Triumph 400X scrambler will be worth waiting for, but at £1300 more and less suspension travel. Your bike has the added safety feature of squealing brakes to warn people of your approach; very high tech! The landscape looked more like west Cheshire than North Wales, where was it?
That’s good to know, yes it had rather squeaky brakes! The Ol’man lives in north wales but I never moved with him, I live in Rutland but this was filmed just across the border into Leicestershire.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Rutland is my nook of the woods, vaguely, there are hardly any byways around Bourne. I've just moved from Ely where there are hundreds. But the country lanes here are lovely winding slightly hilly adventures. I prefer country lanes to grass covered rutted byways anyway. My crf300L has a newly reflashed ecu, ten mins test this morning indicates a definite improvement on the jerky throttle in 1st and 2nd. It's now the bike I wanted when I purchased it.
Great bike! I was thinking about picking this up until Triumph announced the Scrambler 400. I'll have to test ride them still, but I don't see myself going for this over a triumph scrambler for just a few hundred more dollars
@@peterpipe9015 We must agree to disagree there lol, I think the Triumph beats this in the style department by miles. Crazy just how subjective the style can be for different people
@@murrayhyde4902 Aye, I'm sure the scram is most likely the more capable off roader. Being adventure bike based rather than city bike based. I'm not looking to do much serious off roading though, mostly light stuff. Have you rode both bikes?
I rather this 411 , thank you . The new 450 cc is water cooled and flat out performance goes up , noise goes down with water jackets damping that some . The cooling improves combustion temperatures especially at higher revolutions . More performance cost money and weight , when it's good already . Price on this one will stay where it is too but they won't have any trouble selling remaining stock . Good cast , I enjoyed it . T/C/E
Loved Your review and You have really given a true account 👌 I sold mine in June after a year and 7000 miles. I loved every moment on it, the only time I didn’t enjoy was the few occasions I had to get from A to B on motorways and dual carriageways for prolonged periods of time… it does require an extra gear and power to negate gradients where it becomes frustrating to lose speed. Otherwise it’s real exhilarating to throw around at its maximum limit, so much fun😅 I am almost Your height, the saddle needs to be flat, I found myself pushing back and upwards, sometimes I even took to sitting on the pillion seat to give my cahoonahs a break and stretch my legs. I have a short body and long legs. So I traded in for a Interceptor… not quite as much fun or bite in the bends on lanes, nor is the handlebar reach as comfortable, I have ordered some angled handlebar risers. The interceptor is a better all-rounder, at least for me! However I do miss the character of the scram. If it’s fun around the country lanes, mild green-laning and city riding, it’s awesome!! 👌😊 Keep up the reviews, You are doing great 👍
I'd rather have this model than a newer water-cooled one. I certainly would drop this once or twice using it as intended and with a water-cooled bike there's just that much more to break and to service.
The 450 Himalayan is out and running around India with Itchy Boots riding it. Will they make a 450 Scram? Probably. The seat is that way because the bike has a lot of suspension travel. The only way to get the seat low enough for normal sized people is to scoop it out. A flat seat might be good for oversized people but it would kill 80% of sales. I rode the modified version they called the FT411 in the Royal Enfield Slide School flat track course! Great fun and highly recommended.
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I own this bike as my second bike because of the appeal of the simplicity of an air cooled single cylinder engine. It is an absolute joy to ride despite the limited power. The newer water cooled 450 will be a completely different machine competing in a arena of strong competition. Trust me there is nothing else like this motorcycle (in a good way)
Yes and no - the small adventure bike market doesn't have that much competition, it's the mid size (650 to 900cc) that has a lot. I think the competition will get stronger than the couple of chinese offerings, the CB500x and the versys X soon however
I've seen the new triumph scrambler and there's no comparison the build quality fit and finish and attention to detail makes it a no brainer,i wouldn't look twice at the enfields now, ps i own a hunter 350
I’m a non racer and have 160hp. 😂 I just need that little bit of scare factor. But it’s a very mellow ride if you don’t throttle it. But I totally appreciate these small classic style bikes. If they could keep the bike the same and have the newer engine with power at around 40hp/40 nm it would be perfect I reckon.
Since it's not an actual off roader or dirt bike and i personally don't intend to take it there for all its life - just need it when the routes go bad during my regular commute or go light off-roading it once a while for fun, i wish there was an alloy wheel trim. I saw a youtube shorts that said an alloy wheel version was spotted, I'm thinking maybe I'll see if the rumours are true. I have a meteor and i work about 200 miles away from home and go home every other month or so and the road between is not all smooth, all in the hills, I'm really leaning towards buying this one as it seems to be an all-rounder.
Yes! Why didn't I think of this before? I've been round and round over a second bike to go with the LRS, and an inexpensive, lightweight, RE Scramble bike would be all but perfect! 411 is a little smaller than I really want to go, however.
Good, balanced review. I keep wondering why they haven't put the 411 engine into a a road bike like the Classic 350. Maybe they'll do that with the new 450?
I never thought I’d love a single cylinder bike. But I love how they just burble along. So I bought a Classic 500 Trials. I’ll be interested to know what your thoughts are on the Scram versus the CL 500
I can tell you this, having ridden both. the Cl500 is a superior machine with better brakes and power, but the scram has way more character and is more fun (except on freeways) and maintenance can be done easily by even an idiot like me. If you don't take freeways I'd go the scram, if you do take the cl500. Just my opinion
Great video. Enjoyed it. Among all REs I like the Scram the most. I am curios about the new 450, because there is not much to change except for the 6th gear, a bit more power and some details. Otherwise a wonderful and cheap machine. :)
There's this scrambler which has a bit of a dirt bike DNA, made in India by Hero Motocorp.. the bike is called Xpulse 200, has 200cc engine and about 20 bhp. I would like for you to check that bike out. It's an absolute gorgeous looking motorcycle which can do whatever the RE Himalayan can do, but much lighter, manageable and flikable at just 160kg.
Owned mine just over a year. Excellent review and agree with all the points about ample performance. and getting back to basics. The first hundred yards I rode a demo had me wondering why I had bothered. By the end of a demo ride I wanted one! I certainly want to try the new one, but I fear it will lose some of the amazing charm of this 411 and the increased power of the new merely detract from something so special. It's not the greatest on dual roads, but will just keep with all A road traffic but the foolish, and on back lane roads (I'm in Cornwall) it's a joy, a hoot and smiles all the way. Ah, the squealy brake! :-) Service costs over time (6 month inspection regardless of mileage to maintain warranty!) are not so great.
As always, a great review, I would love to see a full foam flat seat too.. ..and a Tacho.. ..and a kickstart.. ..and a 21" front wheel.. ..also that tail light properly on the rear, just above the number plate light, as a safety concern - which would also allow the fitment of a rack. I hope the 450 *isn't* liquid cooled, as mooted. (And it's called a bash plate, it's there to protect the sump)
I see, even in your country, people cross over the line going around blind corners…. They were lucky you were on a bike and not in a delivery truck. Safe travels Sir.
Great review, seems like a fun & affordable machine. I love that colour combo, too. I think it will be a tough call with the new Triumph Scrambler 400 coming out. No DNA test required for you, you are your father's son in speech & mannerisms, lol! That's a good thing, keep up the good work! Cheers, Ronny in Canada
Great video as always… With a new 450 Himalayan on the way and a 400 Triumph already here (double the horsepower) expect to see stocks of these heavily discounted soon…
if your gf is always asking for 'another ride straight after' then you should probably work on your technique ;) Another great video, tempted me to look at this bike again
Itchy Boots is riding the new 450 in the Himalayas. Its got ALOT more power. Hauling her and her gear to 17000 feet with lots of power! I'm waiting for the 450! Plus they got rid of that stupid " tripper" thing.
Stop stop stop... did you just say.. and I quote.. "cows love to lick Royal Enfields "??? I think the cold got to you there or is it just the FIELD in Enfield. 😂
Itchy boots is currently riding a preproduction Himalayan 450 around India. It looks like quite an upgrade. Of course I’m sure it will be more expensive as well.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan she’s not a reviewer, but has shown the bike quite a bit. And clear pictures of the 450 are everywhere. Even right here on TH-cam. Who are you serving by lying about this?
I'm kind of there actually. Undecided between this, or waiting a bit more to see what comes up. There are rumors of a slight revamp of the Scram, with alloy tubeless wheels, and different controls, but with same motor, body.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan just saw that on some random Indian website. no idea how accurate it is, but the 450 version will likely be closer in price to the Triumph.
@@endianAphonesIt's coming, there have been spotted testing the 450's. Then there is a 650 bobber on the way and perhaps the 650 classic. The 650's will launch later down the line but the 450's are coming thanks to triumph.
Choices of wheels would be good, for certain countries due to winter salts etc like in the UK for us commuters. I love the spoked aesthetics but a decent cast rim could look really nice and an easier cleaning maintenance.
Should have said, " cows lick royal enfields" or heifers! Lol. Like the ramble and review of this bike. Hard one to pass up, pending on what town you live in the US. I feel like all bikes where I live have to atheist do 80 comfortably for the highways. Slow lane travel is dangerous .
Noraly (Itchy Boots) is currently riding a new 450 Scout experimental model and is praising the extra power and other upgrades over the 411. Royal Enfield continues to uprade their quality with each new model. I'm sure once it is in regular production that they will shortly include a scrambler?
Cows are sacred animals in India, so I guess that's the reason by which they love to lick Royal Enfields. 😉 This bike seems to be so special that some TT marshalls were designated to look after the road, as we can see at 11:09. 😂 (My) Silly jokes aside, excellent review. Regards from Brazil.✌
I own a classic 350 and a Himalyan. The Classics engine has a quality feel that you just don't have on the 411. The low down torque on the 350 FEELS stronger, but probably isn't mathematically. The classic is an overall more fun bike and it can also handle some light off-road.
After owning a scam for four months in Colombia, let me tell you I hate it and I am looking to replace it. It is extremely heavy and slow and the 5 gear gear box doesn’t help. The gears are extremely long It is very evident while climbing. Switching from 1st to 2nd even if you rev it maxed out will bog out in second while climbing anything worthwhile. People says it has torque, but it to me has absolutely none. My drz400sm had torque.. not this. The suspension is awful, especially the rear. It is way too soft. I’m at 81 kg and I had to max it out and it was still softer than other bikes I’ve owned on the initial setting. The bike will also get speed wobble when you are taking long turns.. if you don’t have a country where you are driving around mountains, it won’t matter, but it is extremely dangerous for me here in Colombia where I can go flying off a mountain. My bike is basically brand new and everything is in order. I read another review where they mentioned this as well. There is also a valve in this motor that will make the most obnoxious sound, and sound like a loud loose valve but after doing a valve tech, it will still be there. It’s one of the most annoying things and many people mention it just google it. if you want to have fun, good luck you can’t even do first gear clutch up wheelies which to me just is a huge indicator that a motorcycle is badly tuned with the gears or underpowered. In my opinion, there are many better options in this price range. The only thing this motorcycle has is a really cool look. I would wait for the 450.
Absolutely! Will you be doing your A2 license? If so the royal Enfield continental GT or Interceptor would be fantastic. We have done lots of videos on them on the channel.
@@xristosthedosopoulos6513 the royal Enfield for sure, the cb500x is more powerful but lacks in character. The royal Enfield has oodles of character and charm, and looks!
I sat on the scram but decided on the Himmy, preferred the riding position. Re the new Himmy so far the design to me is terrible, what were they smoking😂. Cows love to lick Royal Enfields now am gonna have to go find some cows!😂 P.s Just deciding on which crash bars. Any experience?
I’ve owned a Scram for almost a year and came to sincerely hate it over time. It’s too slow for the road, too heavy for the off-road and I can’t ride it for more than 45 minutes without by back starting to hurt. I honestly don’t understand all the positive reviews this bike gets, if you ride it for a bit longer than a few weeks all of its limitations become painfully clear.
One concern is whether the 411 engine is the end of the line? This may be a bad thing (future parts concerns), or a good thing (REs largest air-cooled single) depending on future developments.
Just shows how personal it all is... Most bike reviewers tend to be positive about the bikes. There are always lovers and haters. I have a Himalyan since 2018 and road it to from Belgium to Portugal and back. Also did some TET--routes with it. it's a slow ADV-bike, don't expect anything else. BTW seats can be changed ;-)
I completely agree, I liked the idea and look of one for a bit of local laning and getting to work on. Following many glowing reviews online, had a go on a used Scram at a local RE dealer and was astonished by how crap it was. Slower than slow, seat was uncomfortable and pushed you forward, engine lacking in character, suspension not as compliant as it should be and generally felt like a slightly bigger Chinese 125. Glad I had a test ride as I'd have been very disappointed after handing over any money. Rode an Interceptor and that was in a different league, despite still feeling a bit underdog
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Owned mine for well over a year.
A few annoying niggles but dealer always up for helping resolve.
Take it from me ..this bike doesn't need more power.
For back road riding its nothing short of brilliant.
Comments regarding exhaust.
Its called AUTOSOL.
A new model for me will spoil a massively underrated machine.
The old man actually sold this to me last year.
5foot 6.
The best riding position out there.
May even buy another one while stocks last.
It will get the progress treatment and like most things it won't be for the better.
Everyone is anticipating the Himalayan 450, which will probably have a scram version. But RE are also planning on a Scram 440, which is essentially the Scram 411 with a big bore kit from the factory. Not sure what other features it will get (like the new display that links to your phone so you can use your own map software, rather than the Google connected navigation thing on it at the moment) or if it will be basically the same as the current model. It will get a bit more juice to comfortably go on the motorway and make it a better all rounder I think.
Also there is the Scram 650 coming which is a modified interceptor, called the "Bear".
Personally I'm looking at the scram 440 the most, as it will be a slightly more powerful and refined version of the old Himalayan platform I hope. The 450 looks good but is adding extra tech and moving towards the current mainstream of adventure bikes, which is not what the Himalayan platform was popular for I think.
you're 5'6 and this is the best riding position for you? i'm 5'7 so I've always wondered for me if I'll be a bit too short to be comfortable over time
can i prefer it over metoer 350 i will use for 1yr i need pickup and looks and i will give it to my father who needs comfort riding position i'm really confused help me out!
I'm looking forward to buying one in early 24 test rode one last year could not afford one then but liked it so its thumbs up from Ireland and a local royal Enfield dealer is just 25 miles away and wow what a breath off free air proper dealer
@@Bordpie I hope the 440 does come out. I would be interested in one.
I've owned a Scram since August and have ridden almost 3000 km. This motorcycle has charm and stands out from the crowd of other bikes. It brings a smile to my face and it has what is called an addictive factor. Anyone who can screw screws does all the maintenance themselves and saves a lot of money, no need to unscrew any plastic lumps. Often in life less is more. My other three bikes are currently resting. Greetings from
Germany
USA owner here, and you got it exactly right. The bike has "just enough". It's surprising how much I enjoy mine as it replaced a Tiger 800! And these really wake up after initial run-in.
This bike is a dream. I chose it based on a little research, gut instinct, and looks. I’ve been driving it daily for over a year and it’s always a dream, a blast, and leaves me wanting to ride it more. What an incredible deal from RE. If it fits your needs, it can’t be beat…for what it is made for; getting around the city and country in varying road conditions, blasting through traffic and really experiencing the ride. Old skool. Awesome.
If you want something that never goes wrong and goes well, get a Scram 411 and put a decent exhaust and air filter on it and jobs a good one. I got my mechanic to re map mine so its quick and smooth.
I ride this cool bike for 12 month. Almost everyday in Vienna city traffic for short and mid distances. Some weekends I enjoy some little tours on country side close to my city. I love it and I think it is even an alternativ for a car in urban areas. 24PS is OK but sometimes I feel it could be a bit more. But so I save some local taxes.
All the best, Roman from Vienna (Austria)
I own one, and what you say is spot on. It’s low tech, light, economical, it rides and handles absolutely beautifully, it’s extremely nimble and you can really throw it about and zip around corners. The lack of power actually adds to the fun, although it does have just enough to cope with life on the motorway. It’s simplicity and rawness are its very best points.
I wonder if the new 450 version manages to retain all these things ?
We will see. Am guessing it will just I cant stand the looks as it stands.
@@MauriceTarantulasWhen 411 was launched PPL really outright criticised how it looked, I am guessing 450 is following suit.
@@percentbigfoot For me its different. I always liked the look of the Himmy/Scram...no real "beak".
@@MauriceTarantulas Yea, I mean I get what you're saying, the 411 looks somewhat more raw, idk kind of like a simple design. The new one does not has that factor but I guess with different color schemes and future updates people will certainly get used to it.
@@percentbigfoot Sure plus for people who have a 2nd bike the new Himmy could be a great addition for off road stuff (dont get me wrong I'd like a bit more power when fully laden but forces me to diet n run which is a good thing...lose a few kg)
I loved the Indian music. It shows respect for the engineers in RE India. Nice review Darcy, as they always are with you and the Old man. Thank you
I like the honest review. I've owned mine for over a year now and I still enjoy riding it every time I get on it. Its not a bike to go mach 3 on... its a bike that allows the rider to have total freedom and take in the surroundings. It'll suit riders who have come through the other side of owning big/fast machines and appreciate riding at a more tranquil pace. The bike can handle most environments and its a good addition to any small collection.
Great to hear 👍🏼
I've had my scram for over a year and ride all year round in the US. I added a windscreen for the cold days and it makes quite a difference. I'm a 5'6" female rider and the weight isn't an issue and the suspension compresses to allow for full confidence having at least 1 foot down at stops. With heavy clutch work I noticed my forearm getting tired but I installed Hitchcock's adjustable levers which look great and bring the levers a bit closer for better comfort. I wish for a little more power honestly but only when I'm riding with my friends who have speed twin 900s.
I bought mine at the end of August, ex demo, ridiculously low price. I was umming and arrring about the Honda Cl500 and waiting for the Triumph but at the end of the day the price said "buy me". I love It. It's great on rough roads as well as main roads. I took It on a dual carriageway and It was happy enough at 120km/h, very windy day so didn't try any faster. Great bike!
Awesome to hear, just reviewed the CL500 today 😁
I am watching these scram videos 4th time, i really love the way you say things about Royal Enfield bikes it makes my mood ❤❤❤ love from india 🇮🇳
This is a second bike for me. It may be short on power, But i so enjoy riding this machine. Great on green lanes and def brings a smile to your life. So easy to ride, with a great fuel consumption..
Royal Enfield’s best kept secret. A moderate displacement bike with a good sized frame for larger riders. Why wait for the liquid cooled 451? This bike is mechanically simpler. RE will likely go through some quality growing pains initially with their first liquid cooled offering. The 411 is just a Swiss army knife type of bike. I was going to pass on this bike. Thought I would be buying a classic or meteor. Then I RODE this one. It just blew everything else away in terms of grin factor.
This bike is unreal for relaxed riding. You don’t feel cramped, the fuel economy is awesome. Mechanically simple and under-stressed. I bought one… can you tell?🤣
"Cows love to lick Royal Enfields"" Thanks for the laugh mate!! Ride safe. Cheers from NZ. The Scram is cool btw...well, I think so. Like many, I've watched Itchy Boots trying out the new bike, and without it being a review, it obviously has twice (or a great deal more) the power. And it sounds sweet. But we don't know the price yet. And anyway, it's horses for courses right? The Scram has a cool factor. It really does, and it's backed up by buyers who love it. I'm glad both bikes exist. :)
Great video 👍I’m really pleased that you and your dad point out the usability and enjoyment of riding of these lower powered bikes !
Fast bikes encourage us to go faster and we all need to ride for fun Not speed 👍 keep up the good work
I had one of these on loan whilst my Interceptor was in for a service. I only rode on local roads mainly town and some country roads and it was perfectly adequate. I only noticed the low power a could of times when it couldn’t out accelerate a white van, once you realise that then you are ok. Physically it’s quite big, it’s larger than my Interceptor so it suits you being tall. I would have the Interceptor over this but if I had £4500 budget then the 411 would be a great choice, but I think the Hunter runs it close if you stick to roads. Like the videos keep them coming.
Excellent review, you really have got it down to a fine art. Very good editing and quality commentary. Beautiful coutryside, cheers
The bike comes from India, cows licked the bike so now it is a holy bike.
😂😂😂😂
Fantastic review and bike. It would be my first pick right now, but rumor has it 650 scrambler is coming and 450 himalayan/scram. So I will wait a few more months to see. Royal enfield is on fire lately.
Yes definitely, I think I would wait too
@@MrDarcy-OlMan itchy boots is now riding the new Himalayan in the Himalayas. RE gave one to ride to the Himalayas... I believe it hasn't been launched to the public yet.
No 650 off roader due, however I do know that RE are going to launch 650 adventure bike late 2024/25. Will go up against bikes like honda cb500x, not off road focused apparently.
My favourite RE. I'd rather have a two-valve, air-cooled single than the new four-valve liquid-cooled one, whatever it looks like. It needs a bench seat. You could go anywhere on the 411, long distance no problem. I did it on a Yamaha XT500E in the '80s. Not convinced by the supposed pleasure of wringing everything out of an engine. I prefer short shifting.
Excellent review, Mr Darcy. Nick J
I for one hope to chop my cb500x honda in for the new 452, I have no intention of wringing its neck cos I'm bit too long in the tooth for that. After many motorcycles I have found that 35 to 40 hp is absolutely rock bottom minimum for my needs. Personal preference. Ride safe.
The new Himalayan doesn't look as good as the old one. It's more curvy and 'styled' but less industrial. That's pre-production but I think the final will be much the same.
I’m one of the guys waiting for the 450 version to show up. Word I got from a UK bike reviewer was that the Himalayan 450 and the Roadster 450 would be first off the assembly line with the Scram 450 showing up in 2025. I hope he was wrong. I’m pushing 72 with a very short stick and waiting is no longer my strong suit. Why 450 ? Aside from the fact that a 500 single is my dream bike. My nearest city is two hours away at 110 mph, roughly 70 mph, and the drivers here are impatient. Why the Scram ? I want a street bike that has some off-road capabilities not an off-road bike with some street abilities. So I wait until the big city bike show in February to see the Himalayan and determine if waiting another year is feasible. By-the-by, great review, I always look forward to reading what you and the Old Man are about. Cheers from Canada.
It’s looking like 2025 now that we are almost halfway into 2024
A good review, Mr Darcy. The Scram is good for the price, and it’s an ideal bike for tinkering with; easy to work on and to modify. There are also alternative camshafts to increase power by about 20%. People may think the new Triumph 400X scrambler will be worth waiting for, but at £1300 more and less suspension travel.
Your bike has the added safety feature of squealing brakes to warn people of your approach; very high tech!
The landscape looked more like west Cheshire than North Wales, where was it?
That’s good to know, yes it had rather squeaky brakes! The Ol’man lives in north wales but I never moved with him, I live in Rutland but this was filmed just across the border into Leicestershire.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Rutland is my nook of the woods, vaguely, there are hardly any byways around Bourne. I've just moved from Ely where there are hundreds.
But the country lanes here are lovely winding slightly hilly adventures.
I prefer country lanes to grass covered rutted byways anyway. My crf300L has a newly reflashed ecu, ten mins test this morning indicates a definite improvement on the jerky throttle in 1st and 2nd. It's now the bike I wanted when I purchased it.
Great bike! I was thinking about picking this up until Triumph announced the Scrambler 400. I'll have to test ride them still, but I don't see myself going for this over a triumph scrambler for just a few hundred more dollars
I think the re looks better
@@peterpipe9015 We must agree to disagree there lol, I think the Triumph beats this in the style department by miles. Crazy just how subjective the style can be for different people
The Scram 411has much more suspension travel for off roading vs the triumph 400. And it is awesome offroad. Muz from OZ
For me the body style of triumph 400 looks like a ordinary 150cc bike lol
@@murrayhyde4902 Aye, I'm sure the scram is most likely the more capable off roader. Being adventure bike based rather than city bike based. I'm not looking to do much serious off roading though, mostly light stuff. Have you rode both bikes?
I take back what I said about your delivery….. you are an artist.
It is definitely a better looking bike than the Honda 500 scrambler
I rather this 411 , thank you . The new 450 cc is water cooled and flat out performance goes up , noise goes down with water jackets damping that some . The cooling improves combustion temperatures especially at higher revolutions . More performance cost money and weight , when it's good already .
Price on this one will stay where it is too but they won't have any trouble selling remaining stock .
Good cast , I enjoyed it .
T/C/E
Loved Your review and You have really given a true account 👌
I sold mine in June after a year and 7000 miles.
I loved every moment on it, the only time I didn’t enjoy was the few occasions I had to get from A to B on motorways and dual carriageways for prolonged periods of time… it does require an extra gear and power to negate gradients where it becomes frustrating to lose speed.
Otherwise it’s real exhilarating to throw around at its maximum limit, so much fun😅
I am almost Your height, the saddle needs to be flat, I found myself pushing back and upwards, sometimes I even took to sitting on the pillion seat to give my cahoonahs a break and stretch my legs. I have a short body and long legs.
So I traded in for a Interceptor… not quite as much fun or bite in the bends on lanes, nor is the handlebar reach as comfortable, I have ordered some angled handlebar risers.
The interceptor is a better all-rounder, at least for me!
However I do miss the character of the scram.
If it’s fun around the country lanes, mild green-laning and city riding, it’s awesome!! 👌😊
Keep up the reviews, You are doing great 👍
It's a stripped down Himalayan....I freaking Love it!!!🙌🏻
There is a aftermarket cam available that wakes it up nicely
Good video thank you
I'd rather have this model than a newer water-cooled one. I certainly would drop this once or twice using it as intended and with a water-cooled bike there's just that much more to break and to service.
Good points
Just watched this again. A great bike.
Hang in there. The new Himalayan 450 is out this November ….Itch Boots is test riding one in Ladhak right now…
Yes I’m very excited for that!
Yeah, a lot of people are waiting for that one... And the more I see miss Boots on it.... the more I am interested. Smart marketing of RE.
The 450 Himalayan is out and running around India with Itchy Boots riding it. Will they make a 450 Scram? Probably. The seat is that way because the bike has a lot of suspension travel. The only way to get the seat low enough for normal sized people is to scoop it out. A flat seat might be good for oversized people but it would kill 80% of sales. I rode the modified version they called the FT411 in the Royal Enfield Slide School flat track course! Great fun and highly recommended.
Mr. Darcy I would love a video after the guerrilla launch to see if the 411 tis still relevant. Keep up the good work love your channel.
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I own this bike as my second bike because of the appeal of the simplicity of an air cooled single cylinder engine. It is an absolute joy to ride despite the limited power. The newer water cooled 450 will be a completely different machine competing in a arena of strong competition. Trust me there is nothing else like this motorcycle (in a good way)
Yes and no - the small adventure bike market doesn't have that much competition, it's the mid size (650 to 900cc) that has a lot. I think the competition will get stronger than the couple of chinese offerings, the CB500x and the versys X soon however
I've seen the new triumph scrambler and there's no comparison the build quality fit and finish and attention to detail makes it a no brainer,i wouldn't look twice at the enfields now, ps i own a hunter 350
Always amazed by the non racers who think they need 100HP to get around on 2 wheels
I’m a non racer and have 160hp. 😂
I just need that little bit of scare factor.
But it’s a very mellow ride if you don’t throttle it.
But I totally appreciate these small classic style bikes. If they could keep the bike the same and have the newer engine with power at around 40hp/40 nm it would be perfect I reckon.
Since it's not an actual off roader or dirt bike and i personally don't intend to take it there for all its life - just need it when the routes go bad during my regular commute or go light off-roading it once a while for fun, i wish there was an alloy wheel trim. I saw a youtube shorts that said an alloy wheel version was spotted, I'm thinking maybe I'll see if the rumours are true.
I have a meteor and i work about 200 miles away from home and go home every other month or so and the road between is not all smooth, all in the hills, I'm really leaning towards buying this one as it seems to be an all-rounder.
Yes! Why didn't I think of this before? I've been round and round over a second bike to go with the LRS, and an inexpensive, lightweight, RE Scramble bike would be all but perfect! 411 is a little smaller than I really want to go, however.
These days those intros. Not just this episode’s music but all of them, you got a fan in me. Thank you 🙏
Good, balanced review. I keep wondering why they haven't put the 411 engine into a a road bike like the Classic 350. Maybe they'll do that with the new 450?
I never thought I’d love a single cylinder bike. But I love how they just burble along. So I bought a Classic 500 Trials. I’ll be interested to know what your thoughts are on the Scram versus the CL 500
I can tell you this, having ridden both. the Cl500 is a superior machine with better brakes and power, but the scram has way more character and is more fun (except on freeways) and maintenance can be done easily by even an idiot like me. If you don't take freeways I'd go the scram, if you do take the cl500. Just my opinion
Keep doing you! Awesome review, thank you! 🙏
Thanks 😊
Great video. Enjoyed it. Among all REs I like the Scram the most. I am curios about the new 450, because there is not much to change except for the 6th gear, a bit more power and some details. Otherwise a wonderful and cheap machine. :)
Water cooling and 2 cylinder, it's a totally different machine
There's this scrambler which has a bit of a dirt bike DNA, made in India by Hero Motocorp.. the bike is called Xpulse 200, has 200cc engine and about 20 bhp. I would like for you to check that bike out. It's an absolute gorgeous looking motorcycle which can do whatever the RE Himalayan can do, but much lighter, manageable and flikable at just 160kg.
😊 its a nice bike i would love a bike that for rides in the countryside
Owned mine just over a year. Excellent review and agree with all the points about ample performance. and getting back to basics. The first hundred yards I rode a demo had me wondering why I had bothered. By the end of a demo ride I wanted one!
I certainly want to try the new one, but I fear it will lose some of the amazing charm of this 411 and the increased power of the new merely detract from something so special.
It's not the greatest on dual roads, but will just keep with all A road traffic but the foolish, and on back lane roads (I'm in Cornwall) it's a joy, a hoot and smiles all the way.
Ah, the squealy brake! :-)
Service costs over time (6 month inspection regardless of mileage to maintain warranty!) are not so great.
As always, a great review, I would love to see a full foam flat seat too.. ..and a Tacho.. ..and a kickstart.. ..and a 21" front wheel.. ..also that tail light properly on the rear, just above the number plate light, as a safety concern - which would also allow the fitment of a rack.
I hope the 450 *isn't* liquid cooled, as mooted.
(And it's called a bash plate, it's there to protect the sump)
The 450 is liquid cooled. It's been confirmed.
@@mongrelmotorsports Bummer.
Itchy Boots has a new Himalayan for her latest adventure, it is liquid cooled and nearly twice the power
I see, even in your country, people cross over the line going around blind corners…. They were lucky you were on a bike and not in a delivery truck. Safe travels Sir.
interesting review and take on the bike
great thanks for video ,, with all the speed reductions in the uk ,20/25 hp in plenty ,,, the 200bhp bikes are for the track
A practical & nimble 'cow pony', useful bike to have around : )
WOWO amazing i love IT!!!
I love the idea of this bike.
Good review, even the Cows seemed impressed 👍 😅
The cows definitely like the bike 🐄
Great video Mr Darcy 👍🏼
Yes they do!
I like how you put indian music now that most viewers are from india. I don't mean it in a bad way, I found it very funny.
And as it’s an Indian bike, won’t put Indian music in a Honda review haha
Great review, seems like a fun & affordable machine. I love that colour combo, too. I think it will be a tough call with the new Triumph Scrambler 400 coming out.
No DNA test required for you, you are your father's son in speech & mannerisms, lol! That's a good thing, keep up the good work! Cheers, Ronny in Canada
👍👌 really good soundtrack.
I'm looking forward to your review of the Triumph 400 Scrambler.
We are looking forward to riding it 😁
India looks beautiful this time of year.
Great video as always…
With a new 450 Himalayan on the way and a 400 Triumph already here (double the horsepower) expect to see stocks of these heavily discounted soon…
Yes will be interesting to see!
This is what I'm waiting a few weeks for.
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Know RE have changed the service interval recommendations on some bikes. The super meteor is 4.5k service now
That’s good to hear
if your gf is always asking for 'another ride straight after' then you should probably work on your technique ;)
Another great video, tempted me to look at this bike again
Itchy Boots is riding the new 450 in the Himalayas. Its got ALOT more power. Hauling her and her gear to 17000 feet with lots of power! I'm waiting for the 450! Plus they got rid of that stupid " tripper" thing.
Shame she doesn’t show any of the bike other than the handlebars!
Now they just have a huge tripper in the shape of a speedo 😅😂
Stop stop stop... did you just say.. and I quote.. "cows love to lick Royal Enfields "??? I think the cold got to you there or is it just the FIELD in Enfield. 😂
Awesome video,as usual.Ome question,does the Scram have the same riding position as the regular Hymalayan? Thanks!
@@p.a7817 essentially but the seats different on the scram, we find it uncomfortable and it makes you slide forwards 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thanks for the information!😃
I will wait for the classic 500
Itchy boots is currently riding a preproduction Himalayan 450 around India. It looks like quite an upgrade. Of course I’m sure it will be more expensive as well.
Yes I’ve seen the handlebars a lot in her video, but hardly a glimpse of the bike!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan she’s not a reviewer, but has shown the bike quite a bit. And clear pictures of the 450 are everywhere. Even right here on TH-cam. Who are you serving by lying about this?
the cows like RE becouse its indian make sense cows are sacred in india😊😂
Is the Scram 450 going to be liquid cooled? That reduces my interest a lot - it's all about a basic machine.
At the moment we have no info on it other than rumours, time will tell
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Scram 411 is a sleeker looking Himalayan, which I'm not keen on the boxy angular look.
Loads of information on that and yes it is 100% liquid cooled
Yes it will be the same motor. 5 models are planned with this engine in.
I'm kind of there actually. Undecided between this, or waiting a bit more to see what comes up. There are rumors of a slight revamp of the Scram, with alloy tubeless wheels, and different controls, but with same motor, body.
I’ve heard there will be a 450 model, we’ll have to wait and see!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan just saw that on some random Indian website. no idea how accurate it is, but the 450 version will likely be closer in price to the Triumph.
@@endianAphonesIt's coming, there have been spotted testing the 450's. Then there is a 650 bobber on the way and perhaps the 650 classic.
The 650's will launch later down the line but the 450's are coming thanks to triumph.
Choices of wheels would be good, for certain countries due to winter salts etc like in the UK for us commuters. I love the spoked aesthetics but a decent cast rim could look really nice and an easier cleaning maintenance.
Wouldn't think RE would release a 450 Scram the same year as a 450 Himalayan. But then again, the 650 twins were released together, so who knows.
You never know!
Should have said, " cows lick royal enfields" or heifers! Lol. Like the ramble and review of this bike. Hard one to pass up, pending on what town you live in the US. I feel like all bikes where I live have to atheist do 80 comfortably for the highways. Slow lane travel is dangerous .
I want to go green laning…
This or a CRF250L ??
If your primary focus is green laning them the Honda is probably better
Noraly (Itchy Boots) is currently riding a new 450 Scout experimental model and is praising the extra power and other upgrades over the 411. Royal Enfield continues to uprade their quality with each new model. I'm sure once it is in regular production that they will shortly include a scrambler?
Shame she doesn’t show any of the bike other than the handlebars
@@MrDarcy-OlManshe shows the whole bike when she first gets it. Even walks round it!
How do you know when the engine is hot enought?
It only takes a couple of minutes, and you usually feel it running better.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan thanks, Mr Darcy!
Cows are sacred animals in India, so I guess that's the reason by which they love to lick Royal Enfields. 😉
This bike seems to be so special that some TT marshalls were designated to look after the road, as we can see at 11:09. 😂
(My) Silly jokes aside, excellent review.
Regards from Brazil.✌
Wait for the next bike and you'll just be waiting for ever.
There is always another machine over the horizon.
How does the engine feel against the Meteor engine for low down pulling, torque?
Feels pretty similar, I think the 350 is a nicer engine than this but will be interesting to see what royal Enfield come out with next
I own a classic 350 and a Himalyan. The Classics engine has a quality feel that you just don't have on the 411.
The low down torque on the 350 FEELS stronger, but probably isn't mathematically.
The classic is an overall more fun bike and it can also handle some light off-road.
bike looks quite smart , but if it needs a 6th then it needs one ,,, also 30 bhp to move it ;;;
When is the 450 supposed to be released?
Dunno, the cows seem under whelmed..,.
Their tongues said otherwise
@@MrDarcy-OlMan😂
Got mine scram 411 interest in 450 but is a heavy bike .
But how bad is that stainless steel exhaust if the whole thing turns brown?
You were losing your audience - mooving on.😂
After owning a scam for four months in Colombia, let me tell you I hate it and I am looking to replace it. It is extremely heavy and slow and the 5 gear gear box doesn’t help. The gears are extremely long It is very evident while climbing. Switching from 1st to 2nd even if you rev it maxed out will bog out in second while climbing anything worthwhile. People says it has torque, but it to me has absolutely none. My drz400sm had torque.. not this. The suspension is awful, especially the rear. It is way too soft. I’m at 81 kg and I had to max it out and it was still softer than other bikes I’ve owned on the initial setting. The bike will also get speed wobble when you are taking long turns.. if you don’t have a country where you are driving around mountains, it won’t matter, but it is extremely dangerous for me here in Colombia where I can go flying off a mountain. My bike is basically brand new and everything is in order. I read another review where they mentioned this as well. There is also a valve in this motor that will make the most obnoxious sound, and sound like a loud loose valve but after doing a valve tech, it will still be there. It’s one of the most annoying things and many people mention it just google it. if you want to have fun, good luck you can’t even do first gear clutch up wheelies which to me just is a huge indicator that a motorcycle is badly tuned with the gears or underpowered. In my opinion, there are many better options in this price range. The only thing this motorcycle has is a really cool look. I would wait for the 450.
Just about to turn 19 in 2 weeks, is there any bike you recommend for someone who likes the style of a retro cafe racer?
Absolutely! Will you be doing your A2 license? If so the royal Enfield continental GT or Interceptor would be fantastic. We have done lots of videos on them on the channel.
Yes A2 license, many thanks!@@MrDarcy-OlMan
One of these with clip-ons, rear sets & a 'Goldie' can (bigger front sprocket too : )
You prefer this to Honda CB500X ....????
Yes definitely, it has so much more character and looks way nicer. The CB500x is great but lacks in character and I don’t like the styling
Which of two gives you more joy of riding?
@@xristosthedosopoulos6513 the royal Enfield for sure, the cb500x is more powerful but lacks in character. The royal Enfield has oodles of character and charm, and looks!
The build quality on RE’s is shockingly bad. But what do you expect for the price.
what year is this, this is not the new one that was announced, right? Thanks.
It’s not the new rumoured 450. I reckon they will announce that officially next month.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan, ok, thank you!
Cow's love to lick Royal Enfield's ...... Epic 😂😂😂👍
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I sat on the scram but decided on the Himmy, preferred the riding position.
Re the new Himmy so far the design to me is terrible, what were they smoking😂.
Cows love to lick Royal Enfields now am gonna have to go find some cows!😂
P.s Just deciding on which crash bars. Any experience?
would be a good idea to have the girlfriend sit on it so we can see how a shorter rider would look like. great video cheers from Chile
Good idea!
music intro???
Thought I’d try something different
@@MrDarcy-OlMan cool
I’ve owned a Scram for almost a year and came to sincerely hate it over time. It’s too slow for the road, too heavy for the off-road and I can’t ride it for more than 45 minutes without by back starting to hurt. I honestly don’t understand all the positive reviews this bike gets, if you ride it for a bit longer than a few weeks all of its limitations become painfully clear.
One concern is whether the 411 engine is the end of the line? This may be a bad thing (future parts concerns), or a good thing (REs largest air-cooled single) depending on future developments.
Just shows how personal it all is... Most bike reviewers tend to be positive about the bikes.
There are always lovers and haters. I have a Himalyan since 2018 and road it to from Belgium to Portugal and back.
Also did some TET--routes with it. it's a slow ADV-bike, don't expect anything else. BTW seats can be changed ;-)
It gets up to 110kph, how's that too slow?
@@arax20 for European/ US highways and duals then yes.
I completely agree, I liked the idea and look of one for a bit of local laning and getting to work on. Following many glowing reviews online, had a go on a used Scram at a local RE dealer and was astonished by how crap it was. Slower than slow, seat was uncomfortable and pushed you forward, engine lacking in character, suspension not as compliant as it should be and generally felt like a slightly bigger Chinese 125. Glad I had a test ride as I'd have been very disappointed after handing over any money. Rode an Interceptor and that was in a different league, despite still feeling a bit underdog
Tubeless tyres would be better on this bike.