51:39 - I can't tell if that joke went over Marshall's head or if he's so done with Luis' puns that he just doesn't even acknowledge them anymore, hoping they will stop (they won't).
I love the MDFCs. They mitigate the worst part of Magic: flood/drought. They are really low opportunity cost spell/lands. But most importantly, they make the first part of the game so much fun. Choosing whether or not to mulligan is interesting and fun, choosing whether to play the MDFCs as lands or wait until they're spells is deep, and bouncing your own lands to play them as spells is amazing. Very good design. I can't wait for more MDFCs in the next upcoming sets for 2021.
I skipped it (not for the first time) and I ended up doing great, starting with a good run on my first draft. My first 2 drafts of this new format where underwhelming to say the least though and I felt a bit lost on the draft portion, so now I'm doing homework lol
Nice one guys, I love your set reviews and just in time for me to listen while I work this morning! To me they're like the fine scotch of set reviews. Although maybe with cheap ice 🤔
Yeah just gotta say I absolutely love the content you guys provide to all the viewers / listeners. I feel so advantaged watching your content. Keep it up guys!
Thanks for the review videos, these are outstanding as always and I'm only at 17:20 of the video. It's a "Kor piece of the lifegain deck" marshall neatly missed that one :D
One thing that I don't think they mentioned (noticed it as of Emeria Captain, so obviously there's a lot more set review to go): In some sense, RW, UB, BW, and UR are all a specific creature type in the party (WB Clerics, WR Warriors, UB Rogues, UR Wizards), while UW and RB are more general "party" color combinations. You can see that on the signpost uncommons, but it's also evident in the distribution of creature types: W has more clerics than any other color, a lot of warriors, not many wizards, and no rogues, while U has more wizards than any other color, a lot of rogues, not many clerics, and no warriors. That means that UW will tend to have a lot of wizards and clerics and a decent number of warriors and rogues. That means that I value cards like Emeria Captain more in UW, since playing it with two creatures already out there's a good chance that I can get it as a 4/4, and I can even play toward that if I have it in my opening hand (I play a cleric and a wizard on turns two and three and don't trade them off when it might have been worth it otherwise), whereas in WR there's a very good chance that I have more warriors than anything else and this is often a 2/2. In WR a 5/5 Emeria Captain is magical Christmas land, whereas in UW it's very possible (though I still wouldn't count on it, I'm not gonna wait around to draw one of my 2 Rogues when I have a Cleric and a Wizard out).
I found cinderclasm to do some pretty good work in limited against anyone that isn't in big green stuff. Lot of 1-and-2-toughness creatures in the set.
I just did a primer draft on arena going green/white landfall and the MDFC lands are just absurd. I have 4 and honestly there have been multiple times in the couple games I've already played where I was honestly deciding which side was better, cause sometimes the the landfall triggers were better. running 18 lands, and so far 2-0
@@alucardio are you implying lsv has poor arguments or that marshal does? Both players are very skilled at limited (obviously lsv is still much better.) Either way you are just demonstrably wrong
1:16:57 Should you think of Tazeem Raptor as a 2/2 flyer for 2? because if you tap three lands to cast it, not having dropped a land for turn yet, you can bounce one of the tapped lands to your hand and play it untapped, right?
It's only 2 mana if you don't have a land drop available. A 2 mana 2/2 Flyer is great because you can play it early. So I think the answer is no, even if this is a relevant part of the card when you are double spelling later in the game.
damn. I forgot how much I like kicker. In the first game of the first draft playing simic kicker, my opponent had 2 ruin crabs on turn 3 and I barely have "hard" removal plus I ramp a lot. They effectively milled me out turn 6.
Regarding the flavor of Veteran Adventurer I think It's more meta than it being a 4-way multiclass D+D character, but rather (and if you noticed it's creature type is simply 'human') this card represents an actual person who has a lot of experience PLAYING D+D and therefore can fill out any role the party needs if he's joining late (which he gets a bonus for). Interesting little card if you ask me.
No time to go back and review comments but I noticed at 1:13:33 Marshall closed card commentary on Skyclave Cleric as grade :B+ vice C+ I believe he intended = strictly barely better Plains, otherwise, you 2 were a whole grade apart.
Great content as always :) One thing for the cheaper white and green land/spell cards. While it is clear that the situational/expensive + land cards are better in the average deck I think white and green can have decks where you want to look at the spell for early and the land for later thanks to landfall. If you have a fledgeling and the 4 mana vigilance cat on board you will rather play a land than a 1 / 3 cleric :) I haven't gotten to green yet, but this occured to me during the skyclave cleric, I think it is at least worth mentioning, even though it doesn't change the grade
I think cunning geysermage is actually brilliant in the simic kicker deck, since it lets you return unkicked creatures or get multiple kickers off while also being kicked itself
So lullmage says take control of creature with cmc X meaning that if they have at least 8 cards in their graveyard, you can't take anything less than cmc 3?
You can still set X=0, 1, or 2. It doesn't say add 3 colorless. In my first draft the guy made his land a 4/4 with the 4 cost enchantment and I stole it paying just 3 blue setting him back a land as well. Immediately scooped lol.
Silly Luis the veteran adventure is very clearly some form of overleveled druid. They're higher than everybody else's level and they have access to all the spells that let them gain buffs or deal damage so they can fit into any role the party is missing.
Grifter: Complaining about LR releasing their set review after prerelease. Genius: Playing some limited before watching the set review to improve your card evaluation skills and see if your blind opinions match up with LR's opinions.
What urks me with field research is that i think its often better to play it for 3, drawing 2 cards and then play something u drew, rather than kick it for 6 and draw 3. But the option is nice so w/e, just think its a liitle bit clunky! but hey, divination with upside... any day sir!
Have to add the LSV opening a burrito and eating it in the Mythic Invitational was epic. Nevermind the whoever's that had anything to say about it. It was so casual, it was awesome.
I don't really like the way Practiced Tactics is hard to use to kill something in the early game on the draw. Usually the ability to trade for a small creature on T3 w/out set-up is a saving grace for that effect, in which case these cards act like 2/2s on defense.
Murder is a B+, usually the best common in the set...the difference is the versatility...thirst can also kill a two drop on turn three while allowing you to cast a two drop...or kill a two drop on turn 4 and allow a three drop...the versatility is definitely worth the bump up in grade
@@Lightmane sure, but its so so much more than that...and why "not here?" unkicked it can catch you up on the draw or push you further ahead when on the play...or just be a turn 4 play after a 2/3 curve on the play...or be cast on turn 5 with a 4 drop...or kicked turn 7 alongside a three drop...it does SO much more than a card that always costs three mana , even if that card is an instant...there are a bunch of great two mana cards you want to kill in this set too including multiple gold uncommons that can run away with the game if left unchecked...all that being said, the difference between an A- and a B+ isn't so great that's it's worth all this discussion lol
@@clelvis225 Why not here? Maybe I'm wrong. I certainly don't know nearly as much as LSV, but to me it's pretty clear. In Limited a 3 mana instant kill any creature is obviously better than a 4 mana sorcery kill any creature. I believe the 5 mana instant kill a creature, from previous sets was a B-? Pretty sure. I'm curious what LSV would grade a 4 mana sorcery kill a creature. C+? So it's versatility certainly jumps it up to at least a B-, but I'd say B. B+ is as high as I'd go, because it's a 4 mana sorcery. It's only because of its versatility that it gets a higher grade, but A-? Sorry, I don't see it. In a draft, I'd always take a 3 mana instant kill a creature over this. Now if only LSV would comment : ) Good discussion, by the way. I'm enjoying it : )
Clearly, Veteran Adventurer is higher than 5th level. I think his total level is 10-20. He dipped into multiple classes, but probably has most of his levels in Warrior. A 5th level adventurer would hardly be considered a "veteran". As a high level adventurer, he would normally cost a ton of mana to hire despite being very suboptimal. He's helping you out for only 6 mana , though, because he's just a nice guy (see his flavor text).
Isn’t sizzling barrage feeling like a white removal spell, not a red one, exactly what’s wrong with white? Why can’t white have nice things? Because white doesn’t get nice things.
I'm not so high on Umara mystic. I rarely want to play my creature precombat but would have to do so to trigger it. Sometimes it's the same for instants and sorceries.
Kor Blademaster is fun even with no equipment, always scares people. Luis is wrong since equipment auto equips it scares peopel if you have another warrior out
Is there a practical reason to have a card like Nahiris Binding (Arrest) instead of Stasis Snare in a set (ignore the flash on Snare) Did WotC do this deliberately to mitigate the feel bads? Because you still get party, landfall... etc..
It's a two sided thing: making this card less strong makes other stronger. The question becomes do you want to make it easier to get a party going or do you want to make it easier to break a party up. And since party is the new mechanic it makes sense that Wizards makes decisions like this that make it easier for you to play/ not punish you for playing cards with party.
@@helderboymh Ok. That makes sense. But this is only valid if the party mechanic isn't too powerful, otherwise not being able to efficiently break a party up will cause problems. Though, it is creature based, so I can't imagine it will be that hard. I haven't seen anything yet that makes party look super pushed, though, everything now looks tame compared to WAR and Companions.
@@BlinkyFizz the nice thing about party is that is really hard for it to be to strong, not just is their a hard limit of 4 but even in terms of deck building you can't get better then a perfect 4 way split in terms of your creature types. Meaning most games you won't have more then 3 in your party and even that won't happen alot of the time. It's not like some other synergy decks where each card that works with it just piles on top of what it like the cycling deck.
@@BlinkyFizz I think companions were fun in limited. Yeah they were strong but it took work to build around them and they effectively added ten decks to the format that wouldn't have existed otherwise. If party is too good then people will prioritise the party payoffs so it should balance itself the way draft usually does.
I think the practical reason is that it leads to more interesting limited gameplay. Arrest style effects are really interesting in a limited environment with frequent triggered abilities because while it does remove the creature from combat, it can still be relevant for multiple gameplay reasons. Also, they did print a Stasis Snare type card in the set with Journey to Oblivion.
Two things I like about the set, they've been inventing far too many keywords that never get used again for far too long. It's nice to see a return to two underused keywords.
I think they'd rather everyone get excited for a returning mechanic rather than "oh look, landfall again". Also, while landfall (technically not a keyword ;) ) and kicker are very open-ended, there are lots of mechanics that don't have enough design space to be used all the time. You'll have to explain the party hate, I'm not following.
Cleric of Life's Bind -> Kor Celebrant cureves nicely and let's you attack for 4 on turn 3. Seems legit for a signpost uncommon + an archetype common. :D
sorry, it was a little unclear, so i had to ask: do Marshall and Luis like, or dislike the MDFCs? they seemed a little bit on the fence about it. /s i don't know if we ever had a set review with the same recurring thing said every five minutes, but i found it hilarious lol. i do look forward to drafting me some MDFCs and having my mana issues gone forever!
3:53:40 Wait, Marshall has never played D&D? Not only that, but he doesn't even know that a Warrior, Cleric, Wizard and Rogue are D&D Characters? Seriously Marshall? How can you play Magic and not know anything about D&D? That's just weird.
@@electricmayhem2010 It's still shocking that he not only never played, but doesn't even know the main character types. Magic used to be a great game. Now it's absurd and ridiculous. Way too overpowered, imo.
Genius or grifter? Adjusting the camera so that Marshall shows up on screen as taller than LSV (I think he is, but he used to sit lower. See M21 and amonket reviews)
Oblivion's Hunger is an F? I'll cast Bloodchief's Thirst, targeting your creature. In response I'll cast Oblivion's Hunger. That, by your own definition of what an F is, is not an F, smh.
I love rewatching these at the end of a set's life to see what was on and what was off!
Thanks for the great content guys! It's not taken for granted!!
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Review starts at 8:20
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1:18:03 Blue
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2:49:00 Red
3:24:06 Green
3:56:04 Artifacts and Land
51:39 - I can't tell if that joke went over Marshall's head or if he's so done with Luis' puns that he just doesn't even acknowledge them anymore, hoping they will stop (they won't).
I love the moment of hesitation in Luis face afterwards.
Lol marshall is well aware and is just over it lol
That was a good joke. I liked it
I don't think Marshall got it.
lol, I missed at first
I love the MDFCs. They mitigate the worst part of Magic: flood/drought. They are really low opportunity cost spell/lands. But most importantly, they make the first part of the game so much fun. Choosing whether or not to mulligan is interesting and fun, choosing whether to play the MDFCs as lands or wait until they're spells is deep, and bouncing your own lands to play them as spells is amazing. Very good design. I can't wait for more MDFCs in the next upcoming sets for 2021.
I skipped my first set review from you ever for M21 and I’ve never had a worse record on Arena. I will never stray from the path again.
I skipped it (not for the first time) and I ended up doing great, starting with a good run on my first draft. My first 2 drafts of this new format where underwhelming to say the least though and I felt a bit lost on the draft portion, so now I'm doing homework lol
@@elenna_alexia Yeah same here, picked the wrong lanes and ended up with not enough synergies and had 3 sucky drafts
Why would you do that, they are the BEST episodes!
I like the way the art for Paired Tactician shows a human and a non-human (kor) and the flavor text includes the words "fight as one."
"The 'Kor' piece of the lifegain deck"
I love your chemistry here. This is one of your better set reviews. Thanks for the video
One thing that was missed on Murasa Rootgrazer is that it enables instant speed landfall.
Thanks guys, got 7-2 on a Premiere Draft thx to your advice. Keep up your great work.
Love you guys! Great content.
Nice one guys, I love your set reviews and just in time for me to listen while I work this morning! To me they're like the fine scotch of set reviews. Although maybe with cheap ice 🤔
the card previews seem to stop after Nissas Zendikon
Yeah just gotta say I absolutely love the content you guys provide to all the viewers / listeners. I feel so advantaged watching your content. Keep it up guys!
Thanks for the review videos, these are outstanding as always and I'm only at 17:20 of the video.
It's a "Kor piece of the lifegain deck" marshall neatly missed that one :D
I was just coming down here to comment on that! And Luis didn't bat an eyelid either, just kept on going.
One thing that I don't think they mentioned (noticed it as of Emeria Captain, so obviously there's a lot more set review to go): In some sense, RW, UB, BW, and UR are all a specific creature type in the party (WB Clerics, WR Warriors, UB Rogues, UR Wizards), while UW and RB are more general "party" color combinations. You can see that on the signpost uncommons, but it's also evident in the distribution of creature types: W has more clerics than any other color, a lot of warriors, not many wizards, and no rogues, while U has more wizards than any other color, a lot of rogues, not many clerics, and no warriors. That means that UW will tend to have a lot of wizards and clerics and a decent number of warriors and rogues. That means that I value cards like Emeria Captain more in UW, since playing it with two creatures already out there's a good chance that I can get it as a 4/4, and I can even play toward that if I have it in my opening hand (I play a cleric and a wizard on turns two and three and don't trade them off when it might have been worth it otherwise), whereas in WR there's a very good chance that I have more warriors than anything else and this is often a 2/2. In WR a 5/5 Emeria Captain is magical Christmas land, whereas in UW it's very possible (though I still wouldn't count on it, I'm not gonna wait around to draw one of my 2 Rogues when I have a Cleric and a Wizard out).
I found cinderclasm to do some pretty good work in limited against anyone that isn't in big green stuff. Lot of 1-and-2-toughness creatures in the set.
Thanks for uploading this one sooner than normal Marshall so that we can crush this weekend
After playing the set for a while I got to agree with marshal. Cunning Geysermage is a really good common.
I just did a primer draft on arena going green/white landfall and the MDFC lands are just absurd. I have 4 and honestly there have been multiple times in the couple games I've already played where I was honestly deciding which side was better, cause sometimes the the landfall triggers were better. running 18 lands, and so far 2-0
Marshall: I really like this card.
LSV: I don't like it.
Marshall: Yeah me neither.
Well, LSV is one of the best players of all time, so...even then, in some cases he did come around to Marshall's grade too
Hard to argue against a hall of famer without a lot of good arguments
@@alucardio are you implying lsv has poor arguments or that marshal does? Both players are very skilled at limited (obviously lsv is still much better.) Either way you are just demonstrably wrong
Great work, very helpful and insightful!
Just got back into magic and was super excited for this video
1:16:57 Should you think of Tazeem Raptor as a 2/2 flyer for 2? because if you tap three lands to cast it, not having dropped a land for turn yet, you can bounce one of the tapped lands to your hand and play it untapped, right?
It's only 2 mana if you don't have a land drop available. A 2 mana 2/2 Flyer is great because you can play it early. So I think the answer is no, even if this is a relevant part of the card when you are double spelling later in the game.
damn. I forgot how much I like kicker.
In the first game of the first draft playing simic kicker, my opponent had 2 ruin crabs on turn 3 and I barely have "hard" removal plus I ramp a lot. They effectively milled me out turn 6.
3:52:02 So LSV, if this set teaches us anything, what would you say that is?
TH-cam Chapters or timecode for every card would be awesome but I know that is a lot of work
Original Theros Gray Merchant was the actual common Gray Merchant though.
Regarding the flavor of Veteran Adventurer I think It's more meta than it being a 4-way multiclass D+D character, but rather (and if you noticed it's creature type is simply 'human') this card represents an actual person who has a lot of experience PLAYING D+D and therefore can fill out any role the party needs if he's joining late (which he gets a bonus for).
Interesting little card if you ask me.
No time to go back and review comments but I noticed at 1:13:33 Marshall closed card commentary on Skyclave Cleric as grade :B+ vice C+ I believe he intended = strictly barely better Plains, otherwise, you 2 were a whole grade apart.
Great content as always :) One thing for the cheaper white and green land/spell cards. While it is clear that the situational/expensive + land cards are better in the average deck I think white and green can have decks where you want to look at the spell for early and the land for later thanks to landfall. If you have a fledgeling and the 4 mana vigilance cat on board you will rather play a land than a 1 / 3 cleric :)
I haven't gotten to green yet, but this occured to me during the skyclave cleric, I think it is at least worth mentioning, even though it doesn't change the grade
I think cunning geysermage is actually brilliant in the simic kicker deck, since it lets you return unkicked creatures or get multiple kickers off while also being kicked itself
This reviews are so exciting, thank you so much for this content.
So lullmage says take control of creature with cmc X meaning that if they have at least 8 cards in their graveyard, you can't take anything less than cmc 3?
Interesting question. It doesn't say X or less.
You can still set X=0, 1, or 2. It doesn't say add 3 colorless. In my first draft the guy made his land a 4/4 with the 4 cost enchantment and I stole it paying just 3 blue setting him back a land as well. Immediately scooped lol.
awesome! after yesterday's arena fiasco this is perfect timing!
Silly Luis the veteran adventure is very clearly some form of overleveled druid. They're higher than everybody else's level and they have access to all the spells that let them gain buffs or deal damage so they can fit into any role the party is missing.
It's so great that you guys come out with such marathon-level content so quickly. Always exciting and helpful. LR ftw
great review as always
You also play Tangled Florahedron as a land when it's your only source of green even if you have a couple other lands in your opening hand.
Why the heck doesn't adventure awaits get a land?
Another awesome set review. Another request to have larger card images. I prefer to see the card more than your expressions.
4:07 I like how their OnlyFans is LSV eating a burrito.
Grifter: Complaining about LR releasing their set review after prerelease.
Genius: Playing some limited before watching the set review to improve your card evaluation skills and see if your blind opinions match up with LR's opinions.
Galaxy brain: don't play prerelease to not die
@@Tamiss Many LGS's have Prerelease at Home events
What prerelease?
I am holding a garden pre-release for my son and two friends, everyone in masks.
@@Tamiss *laughs in non american*
Skyclave Cleric is phenomenal in BW Clerics, btw
3:46:56 So are we dismissing how cute the art is? Blasphemy!
@2:18:15 they both scratch their head at the exact same time
These men are soul mates
Yay i was excited for this!
Is Lithoform Blight really an F when it cycles? You can put on opps land as a spreading seas type effect.
I might play it for fixing if I’m trying to splash a third color but I’m not ever going to be thrilled about it.
Thanks for the review!
What urks me with field research is that i think its often better to play it for 3, drawing 2 cards and then play something u drew, rather than kick it for 6 and draw 3. But the option is nice so w/e, just think its a liitle bit clunky! but hey, divination with upside... any day sir!
Have to add the LSV opening a burrito and eating it in the Mythic Invitational was epic. Nevermind the whoever's that had anything to say about it. It was so casual, it was awesome.
are we supposed to see each card? they stopped changing at the end of green.
I don't really like the way Practiced Tactics is hard to use to kill something in the early game on the draw. Usually the ability to trade for a small creature on T3 w/out set-up is a saving grace for that effect, in which case these cards act like 2/2s on defense.
This set seems super synergistic. I think deck building will be key to being sucessful.
@3:38 LSV's yawning is infectious: the editor fell asleep as well.
Bloodchief's Thirst is a 4 mana Sorcery (w/kicker) that kills any creature or Planeswalker and it's an A-?
So what's Murder then?
Murder is a B+, usually the best common in the set...the difference is the versatility...thirst can also kill a two drop on turn three while allowing you to cast a two drop...or kill a two drop on turn 4 and allow a three drop...the versatility is definitely worth the bump up in grade
@@clelvis225 normally yes, but not here. It's not better than a 3 mana instant. A 4 mana sorcery kill anything is a B. B+ at best
@@Lightmane sure, but its so so much more than that...and why "not here?" unkicked it can catch you up on the draw or push you further ahead when on the play...or just be a turn 4 play after a 2/3 curve on the play...or be cast on turn 5 with a 4 drop...or kicked turn 7 alongside a three drop...it does SO much more than a card that always costs three mana , even if that card is an instant...there are a bunch of great two mana cards you want to kill in this set too including multiple gold uncommons that can run away with the game if left unchecked...all that being said, the difference between an A- and a B+ isn't so great that's it's worth all this discussion lol
@@clelvis225 Why not here? Maybe I'm wrong. I certainly don't know nearly as much as LSV, but to me it's pretty clear. In Limited a 3 mana instant kill any creature is obviously better than a 4 mana sorcery kill any creature.
I believe the 5 mana instant kill a creature, from previous sets was a B-? Pretty sure.
I'm curious what LSV would grade a 4 mana sorcery kill a creature. C+?
So it's versatility certainly jumps it up to at least a B-, but I'd say B. B+ is as high as I'd go, because it's a 4 mana sorcery. It's only because of its versatility that it gets a higher grade, but A-? Sorry, I don't see it. In a draft, I'd always take a 3 mana instant kill a creature over this.
Now if only LSV would comment : )
Good discussion, by the way. I'm enjoying it : )
2:19:03 LMFAO
Clearly, Veteran Adventurer is higher than 5th level. I think his total level is 10-20. He dipped into multiple classes, but probably has most of his levels in Warrior. A 5th level adventurer would hardly be considered a "veteran". As a high level adventurer, he would normally cost a ton of mana to hire despite being very suboptimal. He's helping you out for only 6 mana , though, because he's just a nice guy (see his flavor text).
thank you both
Isn’t sizzling barrage feeling like a white removal spell, not a red one, exactly what’s wrong with white? Why can’t white have nice things? Because white doesn’t get nice things.
Sizzling Barrage is not a nice thing though. But I get that's kinda not exactly what you're saying either.
51:40 "This is a kor piece of the life gain deck" - Not sure if pun intended but they both missed it lol
1:51:23 someone please add cricket sounds to this.
2:22:42 missed opportunity. Turn life in to death, come on!
2:22:36
I'm not so high on Umara mystic. I rarely want to play my creature precombat but would have to do so to trigger it. Sometimes it's the same for instants and sorceries.
Get it? Kor Celebrant is a...Kor...piece of the black-white lifegain deck.
...I'll see myself out now.
i wish Practiced Tactics was actually pushed so that commentators doing Standard coverage would have to say it constantly, haha
But when they play limited! Wait... Oh...
I GOTTA SAY....Prowling felidar is amazing....not filler or a C card....I think every deck needs one if you are white!!
Kor Blademaster is fun even with no equipment, always scares people. Luis is wrong since equipment auto equips it scares peopel if you have another warrior out
"That tree looks thicc"
Is there a practical reason to have a card like Nahiris Binding (Arrest) instead of Stasis Snare in a set (ignore the flash on Snare)
Did WotC do this deliberately to mitigate the feel bads? Because you still get party, landfall... etc..
It's a two sided thing: making this card less strong makes other stronger.
The question becomes do you want to make it easier to get a party going or do you want to make it easier to break a party up.
And since party is the new mechanic it makes sense that Wizards makes decisions like this that make it easier for you to play/ not punish you for playing cards with party.
@@helderboymh Ok. That makes sense. But this is only valid if the party mechanic isn't too powerful, otherwise not being able to efficiently break a party up will cause problems. Though, it is creature based, so I can't imagine it will be that hard.
I haven't seen anything yet that makes party look super pushed, though, everything now looks tame compared to WAR and Companions.
@@BlinkyFizz the nice thing about party is that is really hard for it to be to strong, not just is their a hard limit of 4 but even in terms of deck building you can't get better then a perfect 4 way split in terms of your creature types. Meaning most games you won't have more then 3 in your party and even that won't happen alot of the time.
It's not like some other synergy decks where each card that works with it just piles on top of what it like the cycling deck.
@@BlinkyFizz
I think companions were fun in limited. Yeah they were strong but it took work to build around them and they effectively added ten decks to the format that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
If party is too good then people will prioritise the party payoffs so it should balance itself the way draft usually does.
I think the practical reason is that it leads to more interesting limited gameplay. Arrest style effects are really interesting in a limited environment with frequent triggered abilities because while it does remove the creature from combat, it can still be relevant for multiple gameplay reasons. Also, they did print a Stasis Snare type card in the set with Journey to Oblivion.
Two things I like about the set, they've been inventing far too many keywords that never get used again for far too long. It's nice to see a return to two underused keywords.
Adding to that, the party shit is dumb and I hate it.
Jarrel Doomis : Looks like they are preparing “adventures in forgotten reals” ahead of time.
I think they'd rather everyone get excited for a returning mechanic rather than "oh look, landfall again". Also, while landfall (technically not a keyword ;) ) and kicker are very open-ended, there are lots of mechanics that don't have enough design space to be used all the time. You'll have to explain the party hate, I'm not following.
@@chrisdaignault9845 No hate on my side. I think it's fun. Plus it may give some play to forgotten cards such as Outlaws' Merriment
Cleric of Life's Bind -> Kor Celebrant cureves nicely and let's you attack for 4 on turn 3. Seems legit for a signpost uncommon + an archetype common. :D
Ahh, multi-classing in DnD is not bad. It's certainly situational, but not "bad."
So why is Demon's Disciple an uncommon? It seems terribly weak by today's limited standards
sorry, it was a little unclear, so i had to ask: do Marshall and Luis like, or dislike the MDFCs? they seemed a little bit on the fence about it. /s
i don't know if we ever had a set review with the same recurring thing said every five minutes, but i found it hilarious lol. i do look forward to drafting me some MDFCs and having my mana issues gone forever!
A kor piece of the BW lifegain deck 😂
33:30 Major design flaw. A "mouse" is "not" a 1/2. It's a 0/1, and I'm not even getting into the whole how does this thing get +1/+1 from a land
Its zendikar, if zendikar does not have megafawna mice then I don't know what does
@@dittmar104 lol
Holy fuck resolute strike
Am I the only one watching 0,25 percent more speed than normal.
I slow it down so I can enjoy this longer
It depends. Now im at 1.25. Before covid i was travelling more so then 1.0
Marshall looks exhausted.
3:53:40 Wait, Marshall has never played D&D? Not only that, but he doesn't even know that a Warrior, Cleric, Wizard and Rogue are D&D Characters? Seriously Marshall? How can you play Magic and not know anything about D&D? That's just weird.
That just goes to show how great of a game Magic is, it attracts even people who have little to no affinity with the fantasy/lore aspect :)
@@electricmayhem2010 It's still shocking that he not only never played, but doesn't even know the main character types. Magic used to be a great game. Now it's absurd and ridiculous. Way too overpowered, imo.
Wd recommend starting with the date rather than an episode number.
TH-cam does the date automatically. So it's more helpful to put the episode number in the title in my opinion
Every intro of these vids-
Blah blah channel fireball pro
blah blah discount
Blah blah channel fireball 😄🤣
what happened with the editing here. On point for the first 3.5+ hours and then its like they just fell asleep while editing.
Genius or grifter? Adjusting the camera so that Marshall shows up on screen as taller than LSV (I think he is, but he used to sit lower. See M21 and amonket reviews)
“Cards have gotten better”, you mean power creep
Oblivion's Hunger is an F? I'll cast Bloodchief's Thirst, targeting your creature. In response I'll cast Oblivion's Hunger.
That, by your own definition of what an F is, is not an F, smh.
These two dudes look really unhealthy. Probably sit inside playing some sort of cardgame a tad too much.
They make a living playing a card game. I wish I could say that.
They looked better prior Covid. Im glad they are still doing it despite clearly being tired. Burned out and partially depressed. Professional!!!