Among the many things I admire about Mike I'd like to highlight his ability to simplify what is complex. Without deep it advance musical education you can still understand the concepts behind his explanations
I found the air drumming at the end extremely helpful. How he’s able to count this in his head is beyond me, I get the concept but damn the execution is nuts
Yeah I'm surprised, at how difficult some people are saying. Counting too high confuses me so I'm just like ok is this more or less times than the thing I did before, essentially...
i've been playing this album (on guitar) for over 16 years and was still iffy on playing this section mike just taught me this literally in 5 minutes. oh :D
Damn, I never thought about it this way, never bothered counting the riffs. Would have saved me a couple headaches, as I play this song a lot with my band but we don't have a keyboardist, so on the keyboard solo section I'm always anxious I might get lost lol.
That's pretty similar to what we call expansion and reduction in the Konnakol rhythmic system (actually I think it's pretty safe to say that they are using that concept). That being said I had never made the connection with this song before... It makes it even more enjoyable! 😎
this is what missing in all dt songs post portnoy. no more this shrink and grow that function as the buildup.. hell you can find this style mostly in sons of apollo.. it proves that this what portnoy brought to the musical structure and arrangement of dt classic music.
Dream Theater with Mike Mangini is kind of like Black Sabbath with Dio. Still great music with extremely talented replacements, but the magic isn't there.
Funnily enough, me too. I walked into a metal record store while they were blasting this exact section. I had never listened to DT before and thought it's probably some lame progrock or something. It stopped me my right in my tracks. I asked the girl behind the counter what the heck that was and she was just like, oh, that's the new DT. Bought the record instantly.
What we did is wrote 12 bars in 46/49 time followed by 3 bars of 37/24 time and one bar of 4/4...which is uncommon for #dreamtheater , but...prog rock. LOL
Hi! Imagine also that this part is the backing track of solo parts :) I suggest you must hear the 2nd album of the band called "images and words" its, a masterpiece. And if a college teaching progressive metal to students, that album will be the main lesson
@@casuspacis3196 this album has too many styles... Pop. Jazz, fushion, ... Song 2 (another day) its a, ballad that has, saxophone. Song 3 (take the time) verse will remind you michael Jackson. Also at the and great drums. The masterpiece is no 5. (no words)
Very cool. It was interesting to see how keep track of the 'Bars" in sections. In fact watching you recite this reminded me of one of my favorite Rush songs, Bytore and the Snowdog, and the way they counted down its ending. I'm just wandering aloud, but do you guys actually put your efforts down on sheet music while writing it, or do you just recall it from memory.. peace
What a phenomenon!
Among the many things I admire about Mike I'd like to highlight his ability to simplify what is complex. Without deep it advance musical education you can still understand the concepts behind his explanations
Yeeessssssss
Me too
if a seemingly complex problem has an easy solution/ explanation, does that problem become easy?
Actually it's the other way around he makes a simple 4/4 complex and insane.
@@estrangeibanez3051 do you know what odd time is? Not everything has to be in 4/4 like a plebian
I have listened to this song so many times, how have I never noticed this?
Because there are solos on top
Because that guitar solo is fire 🔥
exactly me too!
One of the things I love about this band is the way they do things like this, just because they can!
Same...I guess that only speaks to the quality of the solos, and that everything remains musical even as this very unique sequence is happening
Man did I wear this VHS out back in the day.
I've always struggled my way through this section when I try to play this song, but after this explanation it makes so much sense
True
I found the air drumming at the end extremely helpful. How he’s able to count this in his head is beyond me, I get the concept but damn the execution is nuts
He’s not only a great drummer. He’s a great musician!
My favorite track from that album along with "Home".
This is literally the way my mind thinks and the way I explain and sing music to explain sections to everyone hahaha
Yeah I'm surprised, at how difficult some people are saying. Counting too high confuses me so I'm just like ok is this more or less times than the thing I did before, essentially...
Mike portnoy mind tricks still gets me after over 20 years listening to this song and never realize about this “shrink and grow”
i've been playing this album (on guitar) for over 16 years and was still iffy on playing this section
mike just taught me this literally in 5 minutes.
oh :D
What a phenomenon!
What's even more remarkable is that this flies over the head of over 99% of people. Genius.
LOL so true
Scenes From a Memory is an absolute masterpiece. Lightning in a bottle.
It's the whole thunderstorm in a bottle 😅
@@Goreuncle Agreed.
My favorite album in all of music.
This entire section is my favorite part of the Dream Theater discography. Fatal Tragedy is always on my playlist for drum warmups.
Damn, I never thought about it this way, never bothered counting the riffs. Would have saved me a couple headaches, as I play this song a lot with my band but we don't have a keyboardist, so on the keyboard solo section I'm always anxious I might get lost lol.
So, now you ll have less headaches!! :)
if you have a second guitarist, let him or her do the keyboard solo parts
Then he said "what a phenomenon.... what a phenomenon" 🤣🤣🤣
The Soul of DT !
One of my favorite songs
Luv the air drumming at the very end.
Keeping it real (and humble?). It says to me, he's still a "fan" (of music & drumming) not just the performer.
Wow. Never noticed the shrink and grow until he pointed it out. Really cool stuff.
i can't believe i've listened to this song so many times but never realized this was going on lmfao
That PC monitor! 🤣
This part is my favorite part of this entire album!!!!!!, when I noticed I was blown away with how geniuses these guys are!
I remember watching this religiously when I was learning! Portnoy is amazing
Love this arrangement! Excellent!!
It's so cool to see a drummer with such obscenely short arms play drums just like a regular person.
What LoL
@@BurrenSHdrums I think it was a joke because of the 4x shirt hes rockin. lookin like a T rex
Mike Portnoy is not a regular person
That solo is one of my (if not) favorite solos from John.
Thanks for the upload man, pure gold!
Unison! :D
It's not complete unless you do the unison dance
OHH It's as simple as that?...diggada diggada - Huh??
That's pretty similar to what we call expansion and reduction in the Konnakol rhythmic system (actually I think it's pretty safe to say that they are using that concept). That being said I had never made the connection with this song before... It makes it even more enjoyable! 😎
this is what missing in all dt songs post portnoy. no more this shrink and grow that function as the buildup.. hell you can find this style mostly in sons of apollo.. it proves that this what portnoy brought to the musical structure and arrangement of dt classic music.
Dream Theater with Mike Mangini is kind of like Black Sabbath with Dio. Still great music with extremely talented replacements, but the magic isn't there.
I have news for you guys
i love mangini but i also miss portnoy
Mangini is robotic. Amazing but robotic. Portnoy brings so much emotion. Imho.
@@ItsAllBallBearings same might as well play the drum track live
I can follow him perfectly here, but every time I listen to the song I get lost. Absolutely amazing that he could play it live no hiccups.
Rush’s By-Tor And The Snow Dog has a shrink section in it. These shrink and grow type things are also common drum exercises.
And I just thought it was a cool section. My brain has exploded.
So smart
Thank god this video exists, so that I can learn this and be able to play that section myself
The Kevin Smith of drumming. Idk what that means, but it sounds cool
This song is what made me love DT.
Funnily enough, me too. I walked into a metal record store while they were blasting this exact section. I had never listened to DT before and thought it's probably some lame progrock or something. It stopped me my right in my tracks. I asked the girl behind the counter what the heck that was and she was just like, oh, that's the new DT. Bought the record instantly.
@@honigdachs. lol confession. I rented this particular video and never took it back. Ironically someone borrowed it and didn't gave it back. Damn't!
I liked the part when he went “duggada da da da duggada da da da”
I've listened to this sooooo many times and never even realized that's what they were doing. mind sufficiently blown
Wow I never noticed this going on in the song before.
The greatest of all time
The master, good show.
Man, that's awesome!
thanks for uploading!
Thanks for the upload. That´s insane.
This video made me shrink and grow
The solos get all the attention and I get that for sure but I've always loved the rhythm guitar in this section.
The riffs are epic
This Silent Bob guy seems really nice, hope his career playing drums works out.
He'sa genius
Interesting stuff to keep repeatedly watching
This is gold
You are an inspiration to me and many. Well explained the concept. 😍👌👌
And I thought that The Dance of Eternity was the hardest songs of the album 😂
This is actually genius
Whoever disliked this video must have clicked it on accident.
Cool concept!
OMG it’s Rudy Ayoub without being Rudy Ayoub! 🤯🤯🤯
Thank u Gerrard butler.. Oh, sorry, Mike portnoy....
Love it! Yeah, that is pretty much crazy...
I never noticed this, it's very cool. And it's actually the same concept as Batmacumba, by Os Mutantes (circa 68)
It was there all the time...
I wish he was in Dream Theater again.
thought mike was gonna shrink and grow
I totally get it....
Figured it out, Portnoy went on to become Tom Nash
Ah yes, the marching grid exercise but prog
this is mindbow *-*
You silly rascal! 🏆
That’s genius lol 😂
That’s what she said
What we did is wrote 12 bars in 46/49 time followed by 3 bars of 37/24 time and one bar of 4/4...which is uncommon for #dreamtheater , but...prog rock. LOL
One of the best drummers in The World...................end of discussion !!!!!
4:08 😅❤❤❤😅
I still won't listen until I can digest the vocals. As a cookie monster vocal fan, this will be tough.
Portnoy can beatbox
didnt know nothing about this dude and this band, but damn its cool
Hi! Imagine also that this part is the backing track of solo parts :)
I suggest you must hear the 2nd album of the band called "images and words" its, a masterpiece. And if a college teaching progressive metal to students, that album will be the main lesson
@@JohnFas hey man, thanks, I'll check it out. Not really into metal stuff, but certainly into some drumming shenanigans
@@casuspacis3196 this album has too many styles... Pop. Jazz, fushion, ...
Song 2 (another day) its a, ballad that has, saxophone.
Song 3 (take the time) verse will remind you michael Jackson. Also at the and great drums.
The masterpiece is no 5.
(no words)
Simplemente son unos genios
some of the most math rock shit ive ever heard
ayo his drumset
amazing
4:09 Mike Portnoy So Cute
Duguda-Dada Duguda-Dada Duguda-Dada
Damn I didn't know Chris Moltisanti started drumming
essentially!
you need concentration to just count it much more play it
He looks like Daniel Radcliff
Duh duh dude dude dude dude dinah dinah dududadah dududah...
...easy
Wow
Very cool. It was interesting to see how keep track of the 'Bars" in sections. In fact watching you recite this reminded me of one of my favorite Rush songs, Bytore and the Snowdog, and the way they counted down its ending. I'm just wandering aloud, but do you guys actually put your efforts down on sheet music while writing it, or do you just recall it from memory.. peace
i wouldve gave up already
Απίστευτος
cool
4:10 😂😂😂😂😂😂
America!!!!!
bagada DA baga DA baga DA
DING.....How is that for relative pitch?
that dude from sopranos plays drums?
Why him head so big