Well mirage was meant to be a dlc for Valhalla originally but then they decided to release a poor effort, barely meeting the minimum standards of a "full game" where the story was boring, the characters were forgettable and the parkour was choppy. I'll say it was the worst one so far out of the series but apparently some people think it was great 😵💫
@@StupidUsername1243 it's the people too young to enjoy the likings of the Ezio trilogy. I thought about trying Mirage until I saw all the stupid abilities Basim can use
because mirage was a side project while origins was a full-fledged game. they did the setting dirty by not making a full game out of it, cuz it was my fav historical setting
Mirage is a side project created by a small studio with Ubisofts approval. I believe it was a belgian studio. They had a much much smaller budget but they really loved the first AC and they wanted to make a simillar game
@@frost93421lol Ive played all of them for almost decades now and I’ll admit the rpgs are dogshit but origins is a masterpiece. Ppl who hate it simply go on the bandwagon
@@RiderZer0I loved the character work from start to finish. It was like a mirror image of AC2. Instead of the father and brothers dying, it was Bayek's son. His growing distance with Aya, them trying to not really process his death by just killing more and more. The only gripe I have with the story is that Ceaser and the Romans in general come into the mix too late, felt similar to facing Hoyt after killing Vaas in Far Cry 3. But the first 70-75% of the game and the DLCs are by far the last great moments from an AC game so far.
lol it wasn’t? it was just designed as a game in between bigger releases. even the shitty game as Mirage takes a couple of years of work and is developed at the same time as Valhalla fixes roll in and the new one only being finished (upd: I was wrong here)
@@grinkevychbro do some research 😭 The devs said to that team to make DLC, and the DLC was about Basim’s backstory, and they proposed to the devs that they could make a full game
@@grinkevych it was supposed to be a dlc for Valhalla, since at the end, we play as Basim in the modern setting. But it was scrapped and given to a different team in Ubisoft to do it, it's why most of the assets from Valhalla are visible in Mirage, as it was meant to be a dlc.
@@British_bloke ah, it was an Odyssey (!) DLC idea (!), which then spent a couple of slow years in dev apart from main projects and which utilised many mechanics from Valhalla, because Ubisoft always does that. but it’s not like they changed their minds “the last minute”, designed some extra menus and textures and poof done. that’s simply unrealistic and doesn’t work that way. and it was the same team - the same one worked on both Valhalla and Odyssey… I know this not because I read shitty leaks from gaming media, but because my good fella worked on the last AC projects. btw, funny random fact: 95% of rumours about Ubisoft releases are being fed to those medias by Ubisoft reps themselves because it helps creating a bit of the cheap hype 🙃
@@iraqiboyahmed5379 great ,t’s a beautiful game but,the entire game feels like a dlc,and to easy to %100. I get the excuse is ubi wanted it in the vain of 1-2 but some things are best left alone.
With the cheaper one being better? That either way should have you think "Man whoever develops these (phones, games) really don't have passion for improving them anymore."
@@Vonliktenstien Odyssey you weren't even an Assassin, and they ended up making the worse of the characters the canon main character (no offense to kassandra but her dialogue is bad and delivered worse, and the dialogue that was the same as alexios was delivered better BY alexios however kassandra as a villain when she wasn't the main character did much better with her dialogue there) lets be honest the best thing about odyssey was that they put Ezio's brotherhood outfit in it
I’m pretty sure I remember hearing how Origins got an extra year for development time compared to their other games at the time. I’m sure that helped. Origins took four years, compared to Odyssey that took three
Because Origin was on a new formula, when Odyssey released, it was already well established. No wonder why Mirage hasn’t been cracked yet, people who brought the game probably will not see the true color of Ubi because they are so fanboy over "back to the roots", Ubi needs to protect Assassin's Creed's reputation until the big project AC Shadow release.
@@Aatrox_Darkinyeah they need to protect it by going back to when it used to be good. With actual Stealth, GOOD parkour and more visceral and rewarding combat. Not this RPG bloated and endlessly repetitive and boring mess that the new ones are.
@@Aatrox_Darkin u obviously have no clue about the pirating scene lmao...3dm are the ONLY group capable of circumventing Ubisoft's denuvo anti-tamper and after ubisoft stole millions of games from players they returned with the sole vow to have every ubisoft pirate-able and playable by 2025.however cracks nolonger exist bro,denuvo is uncrackable cuz it keeps randomly changing code.thats why its taking longer for them to release the pirated versions.denuvo was not created for companies to not have their games pirated,denuvo was created so companies like ubisoft can rip ppl off without any consequences but those days are now over since 1 of the denuvodevs actively helps 3dm create bypasses because it was shown how disgusting those companies are now.
@@Aatrox_DarkinUbisoft does not care a out quality they care about quantity, origins is good because it isn't bloated, odyssey and Valhalla have heavy backlash because there not good games and mirage has backlash because it's a half step pretending to be a true return to form, we care about back to roots because it's obvious the new formula allows ubisoft to be twice as lazy
As others mentioned a smaller team with less budget and first hands on experience in delivering an AC game. However, they got a lot right from assassination missions to the city design. Watch the dev videos to see their apparent love for their game.
From what heard and found, developers had to make Mirage (which was intended to be a Valhalla dlc at first) with the resources of valhalla. Ubisoft clearly were dumb to not give them Origins resources. Also they were a small team with few time So it's really sad and a bit ridiculous
Origins was they’re first ever rpg, they payed way more attention to that then they’re latest rpg, they understood what needed to be detailed and what didnt
I would say this-since Mirage is basically a Valhalla DLC they decided to sell separately as a new game,lets try to check some of those details in valhalla itself,like trying to destroy a boat or hay by setting it on fire
dont be lazy. There are comparisons between Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla. And valhalla actually has the best details! Go check it out if you dont believe me :) Origins is very overrated and has some bad attention to detail aswell but yeah this is just a short to shit on mirage
Then they shouldn’t of charged full price for it. The “it was supposed to be a dlc” is an awful excuse as it literally makes the argument against Ubisoft more true.
Yeah, when you have a game made by what was a mainly support studio, you won’t get the higher quality that the other games have. I think Bordeaux did good making mirage
Mirage had a team of 400 people while origins had a team of over 2000 with a much larger development window with a higher budget to work with. Simple as that
Same company, but different studios. Ubisoft’s problem is that they’re too big. Each studio is going to have their own way of making games, which is why there’s a lack of consistency. Also important to note that Mirage was the first game Ubisoft Bordeaux ever made, and hardly got any funding compared to Montreal or Quebec bc it was considered “a side project”.
In origin, if you'll stand long enough in desert, like 3-5 mins, you'll see many different kinds of mirage, like ghost, or locust, or oyasis, or just a guy in white clothes walking in desert and vanishes within seconds But you can't see any origin in mirage (pun intended)
One thing Ubisoft nails in almost every ac game is the historic setting edit- aight guys, i made the comment before the announcement of shadows, this is the first time they based the mc on a real life figure who never fought in japan. yall can stop saying sHaDoWs now
Mirage was nothing more than a, "jesus, fine, we'll make a game more like the really old games, just for the small percentage of people that make the same comments on EVERYTHING we post"... and it was boring. Can't wait for Shadows. Because for me, Black Flag, Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are far more fun than the rest.
Because of the different game developer: In Origin is Ubisoft Montreal, In Mirage is Ubisoft Bordeaux. Even though Mirage is made with newest version if the game engine - Ubisoft Anvil, compared to the older version for Origins - AnvilNext 2.0.
Because it’s for the Middle East people, so no one care about Muslims countries, so why they care and they destroy the history with the assassin Creed game because it came from something different then the God of the Olympus that they put in the game
Mirage should have been larger, preferably extending to the fortresses of the real Order of Assassins established by Hassan-i Sabbah. They should have missions in their fortresses in Persia and the Levant.
this is what has been happening to the industry for years now (not just the gaming industry) with more and more products made quickly to make money but of increasingly lower quality
@@mrlol6484 you see, there are two eras of ac games: the OGs and Modern Origins is the first modern ac but its about the beginning of creed. Previous ACs was like: SNEAK. KILL. GET AWAY. Anyways, its always something different and you need to fight more like in RPG, and it has cool DLCs.
origin was one of its kind .. took really several years to come they delivered accordingly but it was a big pill for people to sollow so that's why we appreciate that game now ..
idk if this was a rare occurrence but in my mirage gameplay i remember walking the deserts with basim but a mirage of what seemed a man crawling on the floor in a tornado was there but as you walked up to it, it faded away and the man was the jinni
@@mrlol6484 Well, I liked Origins better but it depends on what you like. Origins is open world while Plague Tale has levels. It is more story driven. Plus, it has survival and horror elements to it.
So? Just because he used ai voice doesn't change the fact that he is saying the truth. If you are trying to defend the game by insulting him then you gotta understand that this game is shit.
@@sound4117 maybe you are the one who need to take lessons on reading comprehension because I literally said "if"you are defending. I never said he is defending so I don't see your point. Also who the hell is he to tell him to get some help over a ai voice? I mean if people are getting triggered on such small things then they are the one who should get help.
Bro Ubisoft drops AC games almost every 2 years ( compared to 10 year gestation period of Rockstar) of course Ubisoft games will lack details as they have to rush to next project
Theres a lot of different Ubisoft studios working on different AC games with staggered release scheduling. Ubisoft Montreal made Origins and Valhalla for example while Ubisoft Quebec made Odyssey and Ubisoft Bordeaux made Mirage.
The real answer is that Ubisoft is a huge company broken up into teams. The team that did Origins did not develop Mirage. Even if it was, Origins was made a long time ago and the same people who worked on that team probably don't work on it anymore. Origins was the reimagining for the gameplay with Assassin's Creed. We have a reimagining every once in awhile but it seems there hasn't been one since Origins. Unless you reimagine the games, the sequels will just play like the previous games and will even contain the same animations because Ubisoft is milking this franchise. The sad thing is, the Ubisoft teams after the Origins team stopped focusing on the detail that the Origins team laid down as a groundwork. Instead, they focused on other things that ultimately drove the series into something that isn't worth getting excited over anymore. I have played every single entry since AC1 and when Mirage came out, I watched a bit of video on it and I don't even WANT to play it. They hardly ever change animations in the sequels anymore unless they have to, the stories have become so diluted that them going back to the roots did nothing and the only thing even holding up the series at this point is the exciting location they choose next. That's the only thing worth even keeping up with anymore. Because you KNOW it will play like AC mirage and shadows unless they finally reimagine the series so they can recycle that reimagining 7-8 more times until the next one.
Here's the answer as to why most games don't meet expectations. Different artists/teams senior artist and staff quit or get burned out and go to other studios. There is also the pressure of internal deadlines burnout etc etc. Maybe the only VFX artists they're capable of keeping are entry or mid level. Animators may not be as experienced or are piggy backing off of another team members work who left the company. The answer is more complex than they simply didn't care and just wanted your money. As a game dev myself I can tell you that everyone working at these studios very much care about what they put out but we simply don't have enough time or lack the resources. This is coming from an Artists perspective and I am telling you what we deal with during production.
Odyssey was better. Everything good about Origins was more refined in Odyssey. Plus, Origins was a bait and switch for Aya. Aya avenged their son, not Bayek. Aya assassinated Caesar. Aya assassinated Cleopatra. Bayek ended up a passenger in his own story by the time the game ended
@@DuelyusSeazerOrigins is still the most detailed AC to this day (btw, this is not me trying to say that Odyssey is worse or anything as a game, just that a lot of the attention to detail in Origins was removed in Odyssey).
@TheGeechman Say what you will. Odyssey sold better and has more current users in 2024. Origins averaged a 9.0/10 score. Odyssey averaged a 9.1/10. Origins Story started off with Bayek, and ended with Aya. Odyssey started with Kassandra/Alexios and ended with Kassandra/Alexios. You're objectively wrong but all in all it really doesn't matter. They were both phenomenal games, I just found the story of Origins to really, really let me down when I realised Bayek doesn't matter. He's literally a pointless character made to support Aya
@@DuelyusSeazerThis wasn’t just Bayek’s story just because we play as him majority of the time, did you forget that this started with their Son’s death? So why shouldn’t Aya be the one to finish it? Their story together is the “Origins” of the brotherhood. It shows Bayek’s influence was just as important in the build-up. “hE’s UsEleSs!” You Odyssey fans have the worst arguments
That’s why origins is the only good game in the rpg style. It’s still assassins creed. It has attention to detail. It has a set character and set story for everyone to experience. No gender selection, dialogue choices and multiple endings. It was still assassins creed from start to finish.
Well, because they're made by different studios. One was Ubisoft Montreal (Origins), the other by Ubisoft Bordeaux. Two different teams of developers with different ideas. Also, Mirage started as DLC for Valhalla, but didn't have the time to turn into a full-fledged game.
The game was made by Ubisoft beardoux (I have no idea how to spell it). As you know Ubisoft (as a company) has many studios across the world. This one is maybe the last one who truly cares about the fans and the franchise. They did the most they could with limited resources to give fans a real AC experience. Being mindful of it's limitations, I think we should give them the appreciation they deserve. Because at the very least it signals Ubisoft (the company) that THIS is what we want to see, or at least that this is a step in the right direction. If Ubi realizes this is what fans want, they might invest in a full fledged game and even in a new engine, focused on classic gameplay.
Its because Mirage is really only a dlc and origin is a game that had 4 years in development and had the opportunity to work fully on origin for 1 year straight
Ah yes, Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, all these games with amazing detail and so much to offer yet fans always shit on gold and only see the "gold" aspect afterwards with new releases
It’s always happens in ubisoft games they try to squeeze as much as possible from the same game engine but different development team everytime so the new developers forget or not aware of the previous little details at the game before
To be fair, the fact that Mirage was a DLC that more than likely had a far less budget than Origins should be factored into the equation. Even though it was released as a standalone product it was still essentially a large DLC.
Mirage was originally intended to be an expansion for Valhalla. So most of the lack of depth and environmental effects, as well as the absence of cut scenes, and so on, are no doubt heavily impacted by that fact.
It's simple. Origins was supposed to be the saviour of the franchise after they were reeling back from the low sales figures of syndicate. They genuinely put their all into it.
Because Ubisoft doesn’t care about detail because that would take time they’re more concerned about shipping a game and cashing in on the legacy of the brand rather than upholding the legacy. Which is why this fall’s Shadows will be a shallow puddle compared to Ghost of Tsushima.
Origins had more time of development time. All these things you've mentioned are also not available in Odyssey and Valhalla. Which is why I love the details of origins.
Friendly reminder:Assassin's Creed Mirage is a much smaller game, with a small team and a smaller budget, in fact it was going to be a dlc. And no, it is not very expensive, it is around $40 or $50, which in other games is between $60 and $70. Ubisoft is not broken, they just hate it a lot for its microtransaction system
People when they realise origins had more money and time put in development whilst being made by one the biggest and most experienced ubisoft studios whereas mirage is made by the newest and smallest team who are bunch of developers geniuenly interested in the original games and how they worked:😱😱😱
Must be something new or very speicific. I was really impressed with 0 issues in Origins. I did fall under textures in Odyssey and had other minor issues, but none in Origins.
A lot of people really misinterprets what kind of game Mirage is suppose to be. It's a filler game (in between two major releases) like Rogue remastered, the Ezio collection, AC3 remastered and it was supposed to be a Valhalla expansion. So really we got far better than originally expected so I wouldn't dare complain.
It means that they're not recycling code as they should, they probably took the same engine as Valhalla, which is an improvement than the one in Mirage's, without importing the assets
ubisoft didn't really put some effort in ac mirage. it feels like i was playing a dlc from ac valhalla. plus not much point of interest outside round city, map that was very very small, storyline that was very very short, combat was also not very satisfying 😅
I actually think it’s pretty simple. Witcher 3 clearly played a big role in origins inspiration since it won game of the year in 2015 and Ubisoft at the time were on a huge losing streak declining in quality with each ac game. The best thing to do was prove everyone wrong with origins and copying the Witcher 3 and it’s immersive world seemed like the best thing to do which guaranteed them the most money. Also origins was worked on by multiple Ubisoft studios having each one designed to another part of the map.
Simple: Mirage was planned as a story DLC to Valhalla but then decided to use it as a test if the "old formula" would work well on the AC Fanbase. It's a super basic game with a short story that tested the waters for gameplay direction. Origins was a game they wanted to revolutonize the series with and gave a second year to develop. It was the only actually good RPG game from the AC series. Mirage was fun, but super dumbed down
There bing no Mirages in Mirage really got me 💀
Me too 😁
There ARE though this guy is wrong
@@shamanllamai platinumed the game and saw no mirages
@@poopybutdude2928 I do think I could've been mixing up Mirage w Origins tbh
I think I was the one who was wrong actually
Well Mirage’s sand is basically the snow from Valhalla with another skin, just look at the footsteps
yup, ubisoft back at it again
I mean mirage was supposed to be a dlc for Valhalla but that still doesn't excuse it
I mean yeah the point still stands, Valhalla still came after origins and mirage was suppose to be a dlc of valhalla
Well mirage was meant to be a dlc for Valhalla originally but then they decided to release a poor effort, barely meeting the minimum standards of a "full game" where the story was boring, the characters were forgettable and the parkour was choppy. I'll say it was the worst one so far out of the series but apparently some people think it was great 😵💫
@@StupidUsername1243 it's the people too young to enjoy the likings of the Ezio trilogy. I thought about trying Mirage until I saw all the stupid abilities Basim can use
because mirage was a side project while origins was a full-fledged game. they did the setting dirty by not making a full game out of it, cuz it was my fav historical setting
It was a time of islamic golden age, it absolutely deserved better
Yea a side project that cost $50.
Why is odyssey and valhalla downgraded heavily in comparison to origins then?
@@anas-432I really doesn’t
@@callumlucas4444it does
Mirage is a side project created by a small studio with Ubisofts approval. I believe it was a belgian studio. They had a much much smaller budget but they really loved the first AC and they wanted to make a simillar game
AC Origins is a masterpiece
Bs
Its nothing compared to ac3 or 4 and even unity
@@frost93421lol Ive played all of them for almost decades now and I’ll admit the rpgs are dogshit but origins is a masterpiece. Ppl who hate it simply go on the bandwagon
@@frost93421 might be but origins itself is a masterpiece , don't forget that more than 1 game can be in the masterpiece category
It's not though
AC Origins is such a beautiful game
Yesss it’s really my favorite game ever!!! 😩😩😩🤩🤩🤩✨✨✨
I couldn’t get into it. The story felt so slow and the characters uninspiring
@@RiderZer0I loved the character work from start to finish. It was like a mirror image of AC2. Instead of the father and brothers dying, it was Bayek's son. His growing distance with Aya, them trying to not really process his death by just killing more and more. The only gripe I have with the story is that Ceaser and the Romans in general come into the mix too late, felt similar to facing Hoyt after killing Vaas in Far Cry 3. But the first 70-75% of the game and the DLCs are by far the last great moments from an AC game so far.
@@pratikmandal1350a lot of people can’t appreciate good story and characters it’s just how it is honie
Yes but they ruined it by forcing player to do to many boring side quests and repetitive main quests
Mirage was supposed to be a dlc for Valhalla but they changed their mind last second
lol it wasn’t? it was just designed as a game in between bigger releases.
even the shitty game as Mirage takes a couple of years of work and is developed at the same time as Valhalla fixes roll in and the new one only being finished (upd: I was wrong here)
@@grinkevychbro do some research 😭
The devs said to that team to make DLC, and the DLC was about Basim’s backstory, and they proposed to the devs that they could make a full game
@@grinkevych it was supposed to be a dlc for Valhalla, since at the end, we play as Basim in the modern setting. But it was scrapped and given to a different team in Ubisoft to do it, it's why most of the assets from Valhalla are visible in Mirage, as it was meant to be a dlc.
@@British_bloke ah, it was an Odyssey (!) DLC idea (!), which then spent a couple of slow years in dev apart from main projects and which utilised many mechanics from Valhalla, because Ubisoft always does that.
but it’s not like they changed their minds “the last minute”, designed some extra menus and textures and poof done. that’s simply unrealistic and doesn’t work that way.
and it was the same team - the same one worked on both Valhalla and Odyssey…
I know this not because I read shitty leaks from gaming media, but because my good fella worked on the last AC projects.
btw, funny random fact: 95% of rumours about Ubisoft releases are being fed to those medias by Ubisoft reps themselves because it helps creating a bit of the cheap hype 🙃
@@markbaltazar6916 pinging you too just in case
Assassins Creed Origins is one of my favs
That Mirage comment was truly the nail in the Coffin. 💀
Barely
Mirage was awful,one of my lowest AC releases.
@@canecorsobreed9536why is that I am thinking of buying it because its in my city.
@@iraqiboyahmed5379 great ,t’s a beautiful game but,the entire game feels like a dlc,and to easy to %100. I get the excuse is ubi wanted it in the vain of 1-2 but some things are best left alone.
@@canecorsobreed9536i thought thats exactly what mirage was originally supposed to be? a dlc for valhalla
It's like comparing the most expensive phone model to a cheaper one.
It's not that simple...
@@gameranged bro ac mirage was a dlc so ofc it’s not gonna be like ac origins that was ment to be a game
With the cheaper one being better? That either way should have you think "Man whoever develops these (phones, games) really don't have passion for improving them anymore."
@@gamerangedBut progress is exactly that simply. Just takes some time. My guess is they rushed it.
It is. You just dont care @@gameranged
origins was the last GOOD Assassin's creed game that they put love and effort into
Nah Odyssey was as good or better imo.
@@Vonliktenstien Playing Odyssey. The quests are lifeless and the side characters are not memorable enough, they are just quest givers
@@Vonliktenstien odyssey was not even the AC .. when there no hiddenblade in Odyssey. Hiddenblade was a trademark of AC .
@@Vonliktenstien Odyssey you weren't even an Assassin, and they ended up making the worse of the characters the canon main character (no offense to kassandra but her dialogue is bad and delivered worse, and the dialogue that was the same as alexios was delivered better BY alexios however kassandra as a villain when she wasn't the main character did much better with her dialogue there)
lets be honest the best thing about odyssey was that they put Ezio's brotherhood outfit in it
@@VonliktenstienNo odyssey was dog water
The NPC's in Origins are so lifelike, also compared to those in Odyssey and Valhalla.
I’m pretty sure I remember hearing how Origins got an extra year for development time compared to their other games at the time. I’m sure that helped. Origins took four years, compared to Odyssey that took three
Mirage was worked on while shadows was
Because Origin was on a new formula, when Odyssey released, it was already well established. No wonder why Mirage hasn’t been cracked yet, people who brought the game probably will not see the true color of Ubi because they are so fanboy over "back to the roots", Ubi needs to protect Assassin's Creed's reputation until the big project AC Shadow release.
@@Aatrox_Darkinyeah they need to protect it by going back to when it used to be good. With actual Stealth, GOOD parkour and more visceral and rewarding combat. Not this RPG bloated and endlessly repetitive and boring mess that the new ones are.
@@Aatrox_Darkin u obviously have no clue about the pirating scene lmao...3dm are the ONLY group capable of circumventing Ubisoft's denuvo anti-tamper and after ubisoft stole millions of games from players they returned with the sole vow to have every ubisoft pirate-able and playable by 2025.however cracks nolonger exist bro,denuvo is uncrackable cuz it keeps randomly changing code.thats why its taking longer for them to release the pirated versions.denuvo was not created for companies to not have their games pirated,denuvo was created so companies like ubisoft can rip ppl off without any consequences but those days are now over since 1 of the denuvodevs actively helps 3dm create bypasses because it was shown how disgusting those companies are now.
@@Aatrox_DarkinUbisoft does not care a out quality they care about quantity, origins is good because it isn't bloated, odyssey and Valhalla have heavy backlash because there not good games and mirage has backlash because it's a half step pretending to be a true return to form, we care about back to roots because it's obvious the new formula allows ubisoft to be twice as lazy
As others mentioned a smaller team with less budget and first hands on experience in delivering an AC game. However, they got a lot right from assassination missions to the city design. Watch the dev videos to see their apparent love for their game.
Price tag is to high for this...
@gameranged A bit compared to the latest entries but it is a full game with the same lengths of the classic titles and it is usually discounted.
Why do they have to reinvent these features?
Most valuable and most important brand from Ubisoft given to a small and inexperienced team ...
I like that
@@kyle857because fans cried for it 💀
From what heard and found, developers had to make Mirage (which was intended to be a Valhalla dlc at first) with the resources of valhalla. Ubisoft clearly were dumb to not give them Origins resources. Also they were a small team with few time
So it's really sad and a bit ridiculous
Origins was they’re first ever rpg, they payed way more attention to that then they’re latest rpg, they understood what needed to be detailed and what didnt
AC Origins is actually kinda Amazing
Best game and dlc tbh
Yeah but I didn't like the rpg aspect tho
No “kinda”. Definitely amazing.
Liked odyssey better.
@@generalpanzerfaust2387nah, they get a pass. Origins actually took care of us and gave us an option to skip to level 45 anytime.
"Why are there mirages in Origins but not in MIRAGE"
Mirage in assassin's creed mirage was friends we made during our journey
I would say this-since Mirage is basically a Valhalla DLC they decided to sell separately as a new game,lets try to check some of those details in valhalla itself,like trying to destroy a boat or hay by setting it on fire
dont be lazy. There are comparisons between Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla. And valhalla actually has the best details! Go check it out if you dont believe me :)
Origins is very overrated and has some bad attention to detail aswell but yeah this is just a short to shit on mirage
@@mongolen-kn2yc you really called it lazy?😆to launch the games,find a comparable location and try,while your suggestion was basically "go google"?
Mirage was originally meant to be a dlc for Valhalla.
Yeah
Damn that's terrible
or a Valhalla to DLC
Then they shouldn’t of charged full price for it. The “it was supposed to be a dlc” is an awful excuse as it literally makes the argument against Ubisoft more true.
@@friesforcats_9009glad I only paid £24 for Mirage on PS shop sale
Ubisoft Montreal is on another level. AC3, Origins, Valhalla. It's the little details that count the most.
Understood
Yeah, when you have a game made by what was a mainly support studio, you won’t get the higher quality that the other games have. I think Bordeaux did good making mirage
And odyssey
AC3 was the best. But whoever made Unity and Black flag is truly on another level
@@aChewyGummyBear team effort of Ubisoft Montreal and Quebec together
Okay the last one is genuinely insane 💀
Mirage had a team of 400 people while origins had a team of over 2000 with a much larger development window with a higher budget to work with. Simple as that
Same company, but different studios. Ubisoft’s problem is that they’re too big. Each studio is going to have their own way of making games, which is why there’s a lack of consistency.
Also important to note that Mirage was the first game Ubisoft Bordeaux ever made, and hardly got any funding compared to Montreal or Quebec bc it was considered “a side project”.
In origin, if you'll stand long enough in desert, like 3-5 mins, you'll see many different kinds of mirage, like ghost, or locust, or oyasis, or just a guy in white clothes walking in desert and vanishes within seconds
But you can't see any origin in mirage (pun intended)
No, you can. But it's only one type. Sometimes you can see the djinn watching you from a distance. I saw a video on it.
Great game
Holy shut really??? I'm almost done with it and didn't know that. It's funny I played the newest 3 1st now I'm playing origins. I'm enjoying origins.
@@timpeacock9820 just leave bayek standing in desert for 3-4 minutes, and you'll see
also, different parts have different mirage
The fact they already had the code and mechanics and chose not to improve or reuse them is astonishing
Bc Mirage was probably made on 1/3 of Origins' budget
Did you know you can reuse assets for free ?
@@D_Azeramirage runs on a different engine and was made by a different dev team ,so probably not
Why no one else talks about it
@@D_Azerayou dont know what assets are, dont you?
And it had 2 years of development while I believe origins had 4.
One thing Ubisoft nails in almost every ac game is the historic setting
edit- aight guys, i made the comment before the announcement of shadows, this is the first time they based the mc on a real life figure who never fought in japan. yall can stop saying sHaDoWs now
Agreed
ubsucked
@@TxTdangerCFAL womp womp
are you a time traveler? shut up kid.
Well thats why AC frenchise is still selling
Mirage was nothing more than a, "jesus, fine, we'll make a game more like the really old games, just for the small percentage of people that make the same comments on EVERYTHING we post"... and it was boring.
Can't wait for Shadows. Because for me, Black Flag, Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are far more fun than the rest.
Valhalla was prob the worst ac tbh
Mirage was made by a smaller studio and was going to be just a simple dlc for Valhalla, but yeah, could have more attention to detail
Nehal, Basim's significant other, is the Mirage! look deeper!
Because of the different game developer:
In Origin is Ubisoft Montreal,
In Mirage is Ubisoft Bordeaux.
Even though Mirage is made with newest version if the game engine - Ubisoft Anvil, compared to the older version for Origins - AnvilNext 2.0.
Understood
Because it’s for the Middle East people, so no one care about Muslims countries, so why they care and they destroy the history with the assassin Creed game because it came from something different then the God of the Olympus that they put in the game
Mirage should have been larger, preferably extending to the fortresses of the real Order of Assassins established by Hassan-i Sabbah. They should have missions in their fortresses in Persia and the Levant.
Origins was really underrated really felt like been in ancient Egypt I just wish it had a better combat system like the originals
this is what has been happening to the industry for years now (not just the gaming industry) with more and more products made quickly to make money but of increasingly lower quality
True story
Cause y’all keep buying it even if it’s trash stop buying it
Ac Origins foreva team 🇪🇬
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Bro i saw a lot of reviews about the game and they will talk about the bad RPG system
@@mrlol6484 you see, there are two eras of ac games: the OGs and Modern
Origins is the first modern ac but its about the beginning of creed. Previous ACs was like: SNEAK. KILL. GET AWAY.
Anyways, its always something different and you need to fight more like in RPG, and it has cool DLCs.
origin was one of its kind .. took really several years to come they delivered accordingly but it was a big pill for people to sollow so that's why we appreciate that game now ..
idk if this was a rare occurrence but in my mirage gameplay i remember walking the deserts with basim but a mirage of what seemed a man crawling on the floor in a tornado was there but as you walked up to it, it faded away and the man was the jinni
I love Origins. One of my favorite Assassin’s Creed games.
Bro i saw a lot of reviews about the game and they will talk about the bad RPG system
@@mrlol6484 I’ve never thought of it like it was it was a RPG. It’s Assassin’s Creed not Skyrim.
@@fornax4676 I was going to play a plague tail requiem how is better in your choice?
@@mrlol6484 Well, I liked Origins better but it depends on what you like. Origins is open world while Plague Tale has levels. It is more story driven. Plus, it has survival and horror elements to it.
@@fornax4676 thanks alot for your opinion
What’s the deal with crappy ai voice accounts that are too lazy to record a real human voice. These suck. Stop it. Get some help.
I can’t speak for this channel, but some people aren’t comfortable sharing their voice on the Internet
Ok
So? Just because he used ai voice doesn't change the fact that he is saying the truth. If you are trying to defend the game by insulting him then you gotta understand that this game is shit.
@@ishaansankar3653 you might want to take some lessons in reading comprehension if you think he’s defending the game
@@sound4117 maybe you are the one who need to take lessons on reading comprehension because I literally said "if"you are defending. I never said he is defending so I don't see your point. Also who the hell is he to tell him to get some help over a ai voice? I mean if people are getting triggered on such small things then they are the one who should get help.
Lol i remember putting everyones crops on fire in Origins, they never attempted to put it out 😂
Origins was a lot more expensive to make. It also took a lot of time. Mirage was originally DLC. It was a lot smaller in terms of budget
No matter what you say but the open world which ubisoft creats is beautiful ❤️
Bro Ubisoft drops AC games almost every 2 years ( compared to 10 year gestation period of Rockstar) of course Ubisoft games will lack details as they have to rush to next project
They're not developed in 2 years tho
Theres a lot of different Ubisoft studios working on different AC games with staggered release scheduling. Ubisoft Montreal made Origins and Valhalla for example while Ubisoft Quebec made Odyssey and Ubisoft Bordeaux made Mirage.
The real answer is that Ubisoft is a huge company broken up into teams. The team that did Origins did not develop Mirage. Even if it was, Origins was made a long time ago and the same people who worked on that team probably don't work on it anymore.
Origins was the reimagining for the gameplay with Assassin's Creed. We have a reimagining every once in awhile but it seems there hasn't been one since Origins. Unless you reimagine the games, the sequels will just play like the previous games and will even contain the same animations because Ubisoft is milking this franchise. The sad thing is, the Ubisoft teams after the Origins team stopped focusing on the detail that the Origins team laid down as a groundwork. Instead, they focused on other things that ultimately drove the series into something that isn't worth getting excited over anymore. I have played every single entry since AC1 and when Mirage came out, I watched a bit of video on it and I don't even WANT to play it. They hardly ever change animations in the sequels anymore unless they have to, the stories have become so diluted that them going back to the roots did nothing and the only thing even holding up the series at this point is the exciting location they choose next. That's the only thing worth even keeping up with anymore. Because you KNOW it will play like AC mirage and shadows unless they finally reimagine the series so they can recycle that reimagining 7-8 more times until the next one.
Here's the answer as to why most games don't meet expectations. Different artists/teams senior artist and staff quit or get burned out and go to other studios. There is also the pressure of internal deadlines burnout etc etc. Maybe the only VFX artists they're capable of keeping are entry or mid level.
Animators may not be as experienced or are piggy backing off of another team members work who left the company.
The answer is more complex than they simply didn't care and just wanted your money.
As a game dev myself I can tell you that everyone working at these studios very much care about what they put out but we simply don't have enough time or lack the resources.
This is coming from an Artists perspective and I am telling you what we deal with during production.
Origin was GOAT. It just had it all...
Odyssey was better. Everything good about Origins was more refined in Odyssey.
Plus, Origins was a bait and switch for Aya.
Aya avenged their son, not Bayek.
Aya assassinated Caesar.
Aya assassinated Cleopatra.
Bayek ended up a passenger in his own story by the time the game ended
@@DuelyusSeazerodyssey was a hot mess, origins was an entirely better game and story
@@DuelyusSeazerOrigins is still the most detailed AC to this day (btw, this is not me trying to say that Odyssey is worse or anything as a game, just that a lot of the attention to detail in Origins was removed in Odyssey).
@TheGeechman Say what you will. Odyssey sold better and has more current users in 2024.
Origins averaged a 9.0/10 score.
Odyssey averaged a 9.1/10.
Origins Story started off with Bayek, and ended with Aya.
Odyssey started with Kassandra/Alexios and ended with Kassandra/Alexios.
You're objectively wrong but all in all it really doesn't matter.
They were both phenomenal games, I just found the story of Origins to really, really let me down when I realised Bayek doesn't matter. He's literally a pointless character made to support Aya
@@DuelyusSeazerThis wasn’t just Bayek’s story just because we play as him majority of the time, did you forget that this started with their Son’s death? So why shouldn’t Aya be the one to finish it? Their story together is the “Origins” of the brotherhood. It shows Bayek’s influence was just as important in the build-up. “hE’s UsEleSs!”
You Odyssey fans have the worst arguments
Blame directors who want money and not want to serve in return
Because AC Origins was 2 years development. On 2015 was announced & 2017 was release date.
"Why are there mirages in Origins but none in Mirage?" 🗣️🗣️🗣️
That’s why origins is the only good game in the rpg style. It’s still assassins creed. It has attention to detail. It has a set character and set story for everyone to experience. No gender selection, dialogue choices and multiple endings. It was still assassins creed from start to finish.
Origins is my favorite in the series.. it is a masterclass in game design
The existential ‘what does that mean?’ 😂😂 good god man it’s just a video game 😂
Well, because they're made by different studios. One was Ubisoft Montreal (Origins), the other by Ubisoft Bordeaux. Two different teams of developers with different ideas. Also, Mirage started as DLC for Valhalla, but didn't have the time to turn into a full-fledged game.
Ubisoft hasnt done anything well since 2017 thats why
Understood
Farcry 5 shall i introduce myself.
I liked Odessey bc Greek mythology 😩😩
@@GoldhawkTheOneAndOnlyodyssey was a great game and great story tbh.
@@mattjohnson9948 I KNOW
Origins had an extra year of development time
The game was made by Ubisoft beardoux (I have no idea how to spell it). As you know Ubisoft (as a company) has many studios across the world. This one is maybe the last one who truly cares about the fans and the franchise. They did the most they could with limited resources to give fans a real AC experience. Being mindful of it's limitations, I think we should give them the appreciation they deserve. Because at the very least it signals Ubisoft (the company) that THIS is what we want to see, or at least that this is a step in the right direction. If Ubi realizes this is what fans want, they might invest in a full fledged game and even in a new engine, focused on classic gameplay.
Its because Mirage is really only a dlc and origin is a game that had 4 years in development and had the opportunity to work fully on origin for 1 year straight
Ah yes, Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, all these games with amazing detail and so much to offer yet fans always shit on gold and only see the "gold" aspect afterwards with new releases
Bro valhalla rpg element made me unistall as fast as i installed it.
@@TheKalmGaming really? I enjoyed this AC. Much more than shitty Unity.
Maybe ubisoft hate mirage (loki) 😂
@@GozuTob fuck em all. Ezio for life.
@@TheKalmGamingsad
The answer is simple push out cheap games for money. No more quality over quantity
It’s always happens in ubisoft games they try to squeeze as much as possible from the same game engine but different development team everytime so the new developers forget or not aware of the previous little details at the game before
That last question had me baffled 😂😂😂😅
They're just trying to see how low they can go and still get sales. I wish more people were made aware of how bad these games are fundamentally
Wise thoughts...
Because AC Mirage is a Valhalla DLC sold as a game.
To be fair, the fact that Mirage was a DLC that more than likely had a far less budget than Origins should be factored into the equation.
Even though it was released as a standalone product it was still essentially a large DLC.
lmaoo “this ubisoft is broken. Bring a new one” is amazing
I’m using that next time i’m in an modern day ubisoft debate💀
"this ubisoft is broken", truer words have never been spoken.
Origins and Odyssey are top tier
You’re the worst kinda assassins creed fan go play some fuckin horizon zero dawn if you want to play rpgs
Because mirage cost $50 in an era where big studios are charging $80 for games.
Mirage was originally intended to be an expansion for Valhalla. So most of the lack of depth and environmental effects, as well as the absence of cut scenes, and so on, are no doubt heavily impacted by that fact.
Ubisoft started making bad assassin's Creed games in 2017
Yeah
After*
It's simple. Origins was supposed to be the saviour of the franchise after they were reeling back from the low sales figures of syndicate. They genuinely put their all into it.
Mirage is actually more of a stopgap than a full installment in the series
The feeling of scaling pyramids and the view from top was something!
Theyve all been shit since AC3
What about Black Flag?
Rogue was goated
AC IV and Unity were pretty good for me but yes Syndicate was pretty boring.
Black flag , rogue were great unity was good. Syndicate is only better than the new games.
They actually got good after that 😂not only in details but story not boring and slow
Ubisoft is becoming a disgusting disgrace.
True
Because Ubisoft doesn’t care about detail because that would take time they’re more concerned about shipping a game and cashing in on the legacy of the brand rather than upholding the legacy. Which is why this fall’s Shadows will be a shallow puddle compared to Ghost of Tsushima.
Origins had more time of development time. All these things you've mentioned are also not available in Odyssey and Valhalla. Which is why I love the details of origins.
When devs and the company actually gave a f***
Budget.
Yeah...
And time.
Friendly reminder:Assassin's Creed Mirage is a much smaller game, with a small team and a smaller budget, in fact it was going to be a dlc.
And no, it is not very expensive, it is around $40 or $50, which in other games is between $60 and $70. Ubisoft is not broken, they just hate it a lot for its microtransaction system
I really liked mirage. Map was small and game was short but still got the hit of playing AC
The Sand was not better in origins 💀
Okay...
Anyone who says mirage isn’t good either didn’t play it, or is just a bot 💯
Because 1 was a full on game and 1 was supposed to be Valhalla dlc but Ubisoft said fuck it we can get 60 for a full game instead of 20 for a dlc
Mirage is a great Game, it doesnt deserve the Hate
People when they realise origins had more money and time put in development whilst being made by one the biggest and most experienced ubisoft studios whereas mirage is made by the newest and smallest team who are bunch of developers geniuenly interested in the original games and how they worked:😱😱😱
Who cares? 🤣
Not to mention that Mirage was meant to be DLC for Valhalla,so what they did is impressive,not like anyone will appreciate it ...
they're interested in the original games but added magic teleporting assassinations
Why is it that in Origins, the game crashes everytime when diving or using the eagle?
Same thing man, the reason I dropped the game
bros playing on a ps3
@@diosydinero Nah, on pc. Apparently it's an issue with some Nvidia graphics cards
Must be something new or very speicific. I was really impressed with 0 issues in Origins. I did fall under textures in Odyssey and had other minor issues, but none in Origins.
Mirage had a small studio work on it. Origins is a full scale game with full studio development
A lot of people really misinterprets what kind of game Mirage is suppose to be. It's a filler game (in between two major releases) like Rogue remastered, the Ezio collection, AC3 remastered and it was supposed to be a Valhalla expansion.
So really we got far better than originally expected so I wouldn't dare complain.
It means that they're not recycling code as they should, they probably took the same engine as Valhalla, which is an improvement than the one in Mirage's, without importing the assets
Honestly, we need a new game company to buy out ac and give it what it needs.
Mirage was supposed to be an add but ended up turning it into a game because shadows wasn’t ready yet.
Mirage is literally (like actually) just a standalone expansion
ubisoft didn't really put some effort in ac mirage. it feels like i was playing a dlc from ac valhalla.
plus not much point of interest outside round city, map that was very very small, storyline that was very very short, combat was also not very satisfying 😅
I actually think it’s pretty simple. Witcher 3 clearly played a big role in origins inspiration since it won game of the year in 2015 and Ubisoft at the time were on a huge losing streak declining in quality with each ac game. The best thing to do was prove everyone wrong with origins and copying the Witcher 3 and it’s immersive world seemed like the best thing to do which guaranteed them the most money. Also origins was worked on by multiple Ubisoft studios having each one designed to another part of the map.
Simple: Mirage was planned as a story DLC to Valhalla but then decided to use it as a test if the "old formula" would work well on the AC Fanbase. It's a super basic game with a short story that tested the waters for gameplay direction.
Origins was a game they wanted to revolutonize the series with and gave a second year to develop. It was the only actually good RPG game from the AC series.
Mirage was fun, but super dumbed down
I been pondering getting mirage, I have my answer now, thanks✌🏻
Both arent made by the same people at the studio, Mirage was probably a small side project with interns.