She then proceeds to ramble on about how your rudeness must be her subconscious projecting blame onto herself because of how careless she was to get trapped there lol
“Well, I hope you know what you’re doing, Shepard. With no crew and no squad mates, the only person you can count on is yourself.” (Long pause) “I don’t want him on my ship.”
Disagree! Rejecting Wrex = one of the most magnificent strategic deceptions ever, resulting in Krogan support and a Salarian stealthy dreadnought fleet
@@darthimperius2865 you don’t get the stealthy dreadnought fleet unless you sabotage the cure. Saving Valero gets you a different fleet, while saving his replacement dalatrass gets you an STG task force.
Killed by a couple recon drones. I think a green civilian would fare better, at least take out one of them, or maybe hide behind a fucking rock. But no, goes and gets pew-pewed to death, instantly. Like a boss, Jenkins, like a boss.
That bit had me laughing so hard 😂 I've never done renagade, so was unexpected. Now I just want to do renegade for the funny lines 😂 The fun they probably had recording those lines lol
I hate him, to be honest. Total asshole line, not even in a funny "so edgy" way. It's just pure anger, guy is not mentally fit to form a team to save the galaxy.
A big gameplay reason for a lot of this is that they want to make sure Shepard always has two companions in combat. The ONLY time this isn't true (outside of, potentially, Pinnacle Station? I've never played that DLC.) is after Jenkins dies, but before meeting Ashley. Either Garrus *or* Wrex are mandatory - one is skippable, but you cannot skip both, as you require ONE of them to lead you to Fist. Then Tali is mandatory as well - this gives you two non-human squadmates. Virmire is the center point of all this - you lose access to both Ashley *and* Kaidan for a large portion of Virmire, thus in order to maintain two non-Shepard Squadmates, they need to make sure you leave the Citadel with at least two new Squadmates, as it is possible to visit Virmire before Therum. Thus, the two non-human squadmates you picked up (Tali and either Garrus or Wrex) become your ONLY available Squadmates if you skipped one of the two on the Citadel and haven't grabbed Liara yet. The two squadmate rule is *also* why Wrex will automatically back down under the same circumstances, without the need for any charm, intimidate, or even his sidequest. If you don't have Garrus or Liara, Wrex dying in his standoff would leave you with only Tali. The fact that this is the case may have been something of a last-minute "oh crap" realization due to the... somewhat awkward way it goes if you get this outcome. The way it's worded and even voiced, it almost sounds like Wrex is realizing mid-threat that he's contractually obligated to maintain the game mechanic of having two squadmates and grumpily and sassily backs down.
Yooo I never thought of that, but I would not understand why someone would not recruit every available companion. I suppose the option to turn them down gives the game more depth but at the end of the day, it is cooler to have more personalities on the ship.
This mechanic is also true in the Mass Effect 2 suicide mission. If you take Miranda with you during the shield escort scene, and the biotic in play is not a loyal Samara or Jack, then only the opposing crew member can die. This is because Miranda is required for the speech right after. In testing I did at one point, it's also impossible to have just 1 crew member survive the mission. I did a run where I wanted only Samara to survive the Suicide Mission, and two things happen. Either both my squadmates after the Reaper falls dies (And Shepard falls of course), or 1 person survives solo (Usually Zaeed or Jacob) in the standoff at the door. Then both meet up in the Normandy to catch you at the end. I assume it's the same reason, you can't continue the game without two squadmates. This can also be circumvented if Zaeed survives without being loyal, you can then kill him in his loyalty mission after the suicide one. Doing this actually lets you play any remaining side quests with just your 1 squadmate, so the game is designed to work with 1 or even 0 squadmates.
@@Terror_Official Well during the opening scene when you wake up you first start off alone, then Jacob joins you and then the bald dude (forgot his name lol). Also, I think there is a side quest at one space station that has a corrupted VI and you have to do it solo due to safety reasons? But I can't remember for sure.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 that sounds appealing but I personally don't like either. Space racist or overly eager and annoying soldier that somehow got as far as he did. I'd take space racist cuz at least she somewhat learns to overcome her bigotry kinda.
@@xxarcangelxx143 Jenkins didn't get very far. Being a Corporal means he has been serving for two years at least. Which would actually explain his childish attitude since up until being assigned to the Normandy he hasn't seen anything that would harden him. And if he survived Eden Prime he would start that process. Honestly with this premise, he has a lot of potential for development in the right hands.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 you know what, your right. Some good writing and character development and Jenkins could have been a good character. Now he needs some facial reconstruction surgery
@@roswynn5484 Overcompensation from vocal fans of a protagonist who isn't the majority pick like BroShep is. She'd have to be as good as Meer for you to claim she's better. Which funnily, she isn't.
@@roswynn5484 Mark Meer is actually pretty good at the renegade dialogue. His calm and even delivery might seem off on other occasions but perfect when voicing a homicidal sociopath.
@@martuuk8964 Maybe, but I'll never find out. Just played through the ORIGINAL ME again (not this overhyped Legendary crap) and I totally bricked her once she got on my ship. I even contemplated shooting her in the leg on Eden Prime so the husks could catch her and then I wouldn't even have to talk to her.
@@dr.science_0177 If by higher graphics you mean LE looks like My Little Pony and Teletubbies had a love child and slathered it in olive oil, sure. Everything shines all the time, including skin, and the color saturation is dialed up to 1000.
@@daliothegamer Ah, I see. What he mentions in the video and what I mentioned in my comment are two different scenarios. In the video, he's talking about what happens if you haven't recruited Wrex when you go to Vermire. What I was talking about is if you do have Wrex but don't have Garrus or Liara. The game is set up so that you must have two party members at all times. Without Garrus and Liara, you have a total of 4 squadmates you can use (Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, and Wrex). Throughout the Virmire mission, both Ashley and Kaidan will leave your party. Now, while that's not permanent, that will leave a time when you can only have Tali and Wrex. Since you have to have 2 squadmates with you at all times, you can't kill Wrex and keep going through the game. Because of that, Wrex will survive the standoff no matter what you do.
I almost never used Garrus...he died constantly and he whines like a child. After I had all of the characters, I used Liara and Tali exclusively. I wish I had known I could have left his ass on the Citadel.
@@KravMagoo He does die easily in my opinion, but I just love him too much. Idc Wrex can compensate for Garrus, I always took them with me. I love those two with all my heart ❤️
Shepard had the right idea. Ashley is regular infantry, not SF and SF usually hate working with regular infantry. Tali isn’t in the military, much less SF trained, so again, Shepard has a good reason to not want her along. Garrus however, displayed that he had special combat training in Doctor Michele;s lab, so I’ve never rejected him. As for Wrex, initial impression is that he is a muscle for hire for the Shadow Broker. This means that either he could be bought off by buying off the Broker, or he himself could be bought off. That’s why I rejected him on the Citadel in my ruthless renegade play through. Turned out well for me, since I could trick Wreav, get the salarian stealthy dreadnought fleet and save Mordin!
I considered attempting to reject her in a new game plus since Garis had the ability to decrypt/open everything which was the only reason I used Tali, but I took her anyway. Good to see what happens if you do try rejecting her though.
Yeah that's not how Quarian names work. Young Quarians are known by the ship they were born on, which is where "nar Rayya" comes from. Adult Quarians are known by the ship they're serving on, which is why Tali was "vas Neema" in the beginning of ME2 and "vas Normandy" from her loyalty mission onwards.
Nearly spit up my drink when I heard "Vas Nar Rayya". I'm like um... she's on pilgrimage, so there's no 'Vas' yet. Enjoyed listening to the rest of it though
There will be a lot of vids coming from many people again as soon as the remaster of the entire trilogy is released. Too bad they are changing too much in the remaster to make it worth me buying it again when I can still play the original trilogy on my xbox 360.
Seeing mass effect 1 after so many years it makes me realise how much i actually miss them sitting down and debriefing in the ship. I totally forgot they do that.
"Wrex is an optional squadmate, even though he's not optional in our hearts" true words! I can't imagine going ME1 without Wrex. Best powerhouse of a character.
Udina knows that a Shepard without Tali will anger too many fans. That why he forces you to take her. What a clever politician (except when he is not)!
That's important in an RPG. There's so many possible reasons your Shepard could be reluctant or happy to take on Ashley based on their background. Like lone survivor, war hero etc.
I don't have a problem with shepherd making a sound and logical in character decision, I just wish the dialogue wheel wouldn't show up if every choice is the same. Like just let them talk I don't need be in charge of every single thing shepherd says.
6:03 they are not shadow broker assassins, they are saren assassins, she was gonna sell her information to the shadow broker but fisk sold her out to sarens goons
@@sandrogamer30018 Why would he have Tali killed? What reason is given? He's already had one of his agents give Shepard information for free about Saren, so killing Tali is contradictory. I am not questioning you, though I have not personally seen this. I just find it odd.
@@GothicElf68 I just don't know really. But when I read that I was really glad I got to Tali in time and got really angry at the dead ex-Shadow Broker.
Optional squad mates?? Your Uncle Wrex is optional?? Your BBF Garrus is optional?? Your little sister Tali is optional?? What pit of darkness did you crawl out of, big man?? 😤 **update** I don't know what a "BBF" is or why I wrote it... but I ain't changing it 🤣👍🏾
@@VoidDragon82 I never really understood people liking Liara. She doesn't have a personality at all in ME1 and in ME2 and 3 she's kind of a boring stereotype.
@@zithro_zero Wait, so in the book/comic adaptations or whatever the writers decided to have him go with Liara? Goddamn, they keep ruining the franchise every time they touch it... "No, the reapers aren't out of control AI, we wouldn't make it such an obvious thing." LEVIATHAN DLC.
Because that's important in an RPG. There's so many possible reasons your Shepard could be reluctant or happy to take on Ashley based on their background. Like lone survivor, war hero etc.
You know, first time I playes mass effect I did Theron last. I was so bummed I didn't have Liara from the start I made a new save. You can't romance Liara if you do her planet last.
I keep telling myself I’ll do a playthrough with as few companions and as many deaths as possible. Then I keep not doing it because I’m not a psychopath
I FEEL YOU!! I don't think I can get myself to shoot Mordin and not cure the genophage. I tried once, and couldn't get that renegade interrupt to happen.
i haven't even seriously considered to try it :/ ...thanks to youtube and some maniacs on it i can watch the consequences of wrong choices without trying to experience them by myself ;)
usually evil options in games are atleast some what fun or satisfying (like having a giant power trip or taking revenge on character you didn't like) this is not that fun.
As much as I love Mass Effect, I can't imagine playing them so many times to find all the unique situations that could develop. Especially if that means skipping companions.
that's where youtube comes in handy ;) ...i myself once tried to just run around citadel riding elevators while switching teammates in-between just to hear those sometimes hilarious dialogs they do by themselves... still sure haven't hear them all - they do tend to develop depending on what missions you've completed...
ever try to power him up before sending him out to that hill? he can wear literally any armor in game. you can max his health out as much as you can with ashley. still instadeath. someone hand him his red shirt please.
About forced party members: When ME1 came out in Russia, it had very questionable translation. Dialog options during Ashley recruitment in Russian (re-translated back to english) looked like: - Хорошая идея = Good idea - Хорошо = Good - Хорошо, пошли с нами = Good, come with us That scene was turned into a meme "Лишний ствол" (Extra gunpower, as Kaidan said before). It was used a lot by haters to show, that ME1 is not an open-world RPG, as they hoped, but a railroad, with zero choice (a bit an exaggeration). The meme was quite popular, and even the game itself was often called "Лишний ствол" instead of the normal name.
I could never leave Garrus behind... Dunno, it was sort of a connection to the guy the the first time I saw him and rejecting him just wasn't an option after that. And in ME2, it was hunt to find him, and realizing he was Archangel was the greatest joy ever.
I still think we should've had a Batarian squad mate like Garrus did on Omega. That would've been great, especially doing a mission on their homeworld in 3. A real missed opportunity there.
On my first playthrough I actually played most of the first game without Liara in my team. I just thought I had missed her at the Citadel (since most of the other team members were recruited there)
I actually got that hallucination dialogue with liara because i didn't want to check all the 4 systems to look for her, and instead did the other missions, never thought it had another dialogue for that part
Or until you've gotten fucking exiled for the shit your father did which you had no idea about, but a cool commander from another species who didn't even care about quarians at all before meeting you just welcomes you to be a part of his team and his ship crew. Oh and to save the galaxy.
@@cjnf11 the "vas" part is reserved for the ship the Quarian is currently serving on. Serving in official capacity on board of the Normandy makes her vas Normandy, no exile or any other political stunt can take that away.
We all know every liara dialogue, we've all played Feros, Noveria, Virmire, Therum, in every possible order, the hallucination convo is hilarious but Normandy conversation makes most sense since only after you recruit her does the cipher become fully installed in your head
Hey Dan - I was watching this video when I heard you say you get Liara from Feros, when that isn't the case, You get her from Knossos in the Artemis Tau. I know its not a huge deal but thought I'd toss that in. For those possibly never seeing her before, knowing where to go, and needs to have that info, nothing more. Love your videos!
The Liara section made me laugh my ass off.. I have played THOUSANDS of hours in Mass Effect. It blows my mind there's stuff I never even knew about STILL.
ok the thought of actually watching this seeing my beloved characters rejected hurts me so someone please just tell me what happens if we do this war crime
"You're rude for a hallucination!"
I approve of Liara.
She then proceeds to ramble on about how your rudeness must be her subconscious projecting blame onto herself because of how careless she was to get trapped there lol
@@TheTrueDiablix XD Oh, damn, I have to be rude to 'er this time around - I have to see that for myself!
Yeah that was freaking hilarious
Hilarious 😆😆😆
Rejecting Garrus is painful to look at, knowing what happens if he joins. He's the best bro man come on.
Best bru in any.. any any any game outhere..!!
It hurt my heart to watch it. Dan taking all this emotional pain so we don't have to...
You restart the whole damn trilogy
There’s no shepherd without vakarian
I thought Garru was pretty boring in ME1, defin improved in me2
“Well, I hope you know what you’re doing, Shepard. With no crew and no squad mates, the only person you can count on is yourself.”
(Long pause)
“I don’t want him on my ship.”
x)
I don’t want anybody on my ship....
Shepard Gordon Ramsay
@@bruvamichal7437 Gordon Ramsay taste his food: Absolute trash, focking disgusting.
@@bwtraderü
Rejecting any Mass Effect companion: Critical Mission Failure
Disagree! Rejecting Wrex = one of the most magnificent strategic deceptions ever, resulting in Krogan support and a Salarian stealthy dreadnought fleet
@@brainconqueror8095 But no Wrex is no Wrex!
wrong you can get both and have Wrex if you save the salarian Dalatrass when Cerberus attacks the citadel
@@darthimperius2865 you don’t get the stealthy dreadnought fleet unless you sabotage the cure. Saving Valero gets you a different fleet, while saving his replacement dalatrass gets you an STG task force.
@@brainconqueror8095 still makes its worth saving Wrex
But if you reject everyone who will Shepard bang.
He's got two hands, don't he?
@@ScarEyedCharizard well for a while he doesn't....you know....project lazarus.....
Hey is the commander shepard.. he/she can bang itself..!!.. lol..
Edi
The galaxy itself?
Jenkins is my favourite squad mate from the entire trilogy. His story arch and character development is a whole new level of brilliant.
Leeeeeerooooyyyy Jennnnkkinnnss!
...especially if you keep gearing him up and spending all his available skillpoints every NG+ :)
@@daliothegamer Maybe some day his shields will actually hold :D
Killed by a couple recon drones. I think a green civilian would fare better, at least take out one of them, or maybe hide behind a fucking rock. But no, goes and gets pew-pewed to death, instantly. Like a boss, Jenkins, like a boss.
Lol
“Stop whining or I’ll drop your ass back in that volcano!”
lol, I love renegade Shepard.
That bit had me laughing so hard 😂 I've never done renagade, so was unexpected. Now I just want to do renegade for the funny lines 😂 The fun they probably had recording those lines lol
I hate him, to be honest. Total asshole line, not even in a funny "so edgy" way. It's just pure anger, guy is not mentally fit to form a team to save the galaxy.
@@Fragenzeichenplatte renegade shep is the best shep
@@poluticon You're so cool and edgy. I think I heard your mother calling that dinner is ready.
@@Fragenzeichenplatte LOL what crawled up your butt?
"Wrex is an optional squadmate, even if he's not optional in our hearts"
I literally couldn't of put it better myself 😂
couldn't have*
@@astrius4125 wow, you sure got me 😒
couldn't have*
No, you got yourself.
I always kill Wrex on Virmire. Only way to save Mordin Solus.
off*
"Watching Jenkins go out in a blaze of glory."
Yeah that's the nice way to put it.
Or in other words get used as target practice like an absolute chump.
Leeroy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that's what they told his family, anyways.
Jenkins: *dies*
Shepard: "I don't want him on my ship!"
Udina: "Tali is best girl, Shepherd, by the next game, you will understand that, take her with you."
Wise words Udina, wise words.
Is that why he's so salty in the later games? He knows that we took best girl for ourselves?
Damn Udina, you old matchmaker!
Tali is my fav 😍
I personally prefer liara, but I'm open to other opinions.
A big gameplay reason for a lot of this is that they want to make sure Shepard always has two companions in combat. The ONLY time this isn't true (outside of, potentially, Pinnacle Station? I've never played that DLC.) is after Jenkins dies, but before meeting Ashley.
Either Garrus *or* Wrex are mandatory - one is skippable, but you cannot skip both, as you require ONE of them to lead you to Fist. Then Tali is mandatory as well - this gives you two non-human squadmates. Virmire is the center point of all this - you lose access to both Ashley *and* Kaidan for a large portion of Virmire, thus in order to maintain two non-Shepard Squadmates, they need to make sure you leave the Citadel with at least two new Squadmates, as it is possible to visit Virmire before Therum. Thus, the two non-human squadmates you picked up (Tali and either Garrus or Wrex) become your ONLY available Squadmates if you skipped one of the two on the Citadel and haven't grabbed Liara yet.
The two squadmate rule is *also* why Wrex will automatically back down under the same circumstances, without the need for any charm, intimidate, or even his sidequest. If you don't have Garrus or Liara, Wrex dying in his standoff would leave you with only Tali. The fact that this is the case may have been something of a last-minute "oh crap" realization due to the... somewhat awkward way it goes if you get this outcome. The way it's worded and even voiced, it almost sounds like Wrex is realizing mid-threat that he's contractually obligated to maintain the game mechanic of having two squadmates and grumpily and sassily backs down.
Thank you for this detailed insight !
I never knew that-thanks for the information
Yooo I never thought of that, but I would not understand why someone would not recruit every available companion. I suppose the option to turn them down gives the game more depth but at the end of the day, it is cooler to have more personalities on the ship.
This mechanic is also true in the Mass Effect 2 suicide mission. If you take Miranda with you during the shield escort scene, and the biotic in play is not a loyal Samara or Jack, then only the opposing crew member can die. This is because Miranda is required for the speech right after. In testing I did at one point, it's also impossible to have just 1 crew member survive the mission. I did a run where I wanted only Samara to survive the Suicide Mission, and two things happen.
Either both my squadmates after the Reaper falls dies (And Shepard falls of course), or 1 person survives solo (Usually Zaeed or Jacob) in the standoff at the door. Then both meet up in the Normandy to catch you at the end. I assume it's the same reason, you can't continue the game without two squadmates. This can also be circumvented if Zaeed survives without being loyal, you can then kill him in his loyalty mission after the suicide one. Doing this actually lets you play any remaining side quests with just your 1 squadmate, so the game is designed to work with 1 or even 0 squadmates.
@@Terror_Official Well during the opening scene when you wake up you first start off alone, then Jacob joins you and then the bald dude (forgot his name lol). Also, I think there is a side quest at one space station that has a corrupted VI and you have to do it solo due to safety reasons? But I can't remember for sure.
Liara: *literally in the middle of a mental breakdown*
Shepard: 🤨🤨😒😒
I think it's funny that they let you spend points on Jenkins for him to just die in the 1st encounter of enemies.
and he can wear literally any armor in the game. shame he forgets to put the shields on
I heard they originally planned to have him save-able in NG+, the cost is that Ashley would die.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 that sounds appealing but I personally don't like either. Space racist or overly eager and annoying soldier that somehow got as far as he did. I'd take space racist cuz at least she somewhat learns to overcome her bigotry kinda.
@@xxarcangelxx143 Jenkins didn't get very far. Being a Corporal means he has been serving for two years at least. Which would actually explain his childish attitude since up until being assigned to the Normandy he hasn't seen anything that would harden him. And if he survived Eden Prime he would start that process. Honestly with this premise, he has a lot of potential for development in the right hands.
@@fenrisvermundr2516 you know what, your right. Some good writing and character development and Jenkins could have been a good character. Now he needs some facial reconstruction surgery
Male shepherd’s voice actor makes the garrus rejection so much funnier dude. It’s like a child’s tantrum: “I don’t want you on this mission!!!”
BroShep's VA has a rare talent indeed - he makes Jennifer Hale sound even better by comparison. Didn't think it possible.
@@roswynn5484 Overcompensation from vocal fans of a protagonist who isn't the majority pick like BroShep is. She'd have to be as good as Meer for you to claim she's better. Which funnily, she isn't.
@@Thematically in your opinion, sure. Believe what you wish.
Who cares who's better, they both have highs and lows. Both are irreplaceably Shepherd
@@roswynn5484 Mark Meer is actually pretty good at the renegade dialogue. His calm and even delivery might seem off on other occasions but perfect when voicing a homicidal sociopath.
Truly the Darkest Timeline ™️
More like Dark Effect
Could skip either Garrus, or Wrex, not both.
There's always Virmire to fix the Wrex mistake, but Garrus is armoured by Plot.
@@trooperodst6880 You know the T in ODST is for Trooper? So your username is literally Trooper Orbital Drop Shock Trooper
@@incognito3817 yupp it looks great
Definitely
I don’t know and I don’t want to know what has to happen in someone’s life for them to play through Mass Effect and NOT recruit Garrus.
7:45 I totally expected her to say "I have spent most of my adult life trapped in a volcano!"
Hahahaha
I mean, with the amount of time I'm taking for sidequests in my current playthrough, that sounds about right.
"Ashley Williams is a mandatory companion as well. But you can make things right on Virmire if you like"
Indeed xD
Having a hard time thinking of a game character I like less. I chortled when I realized she was gonna have to eat a bomb sandwich! I fn CHORTLED!!
@@martuuk8964 Maybe, but I'll never find out. Just played through the ORIGINAL ME again (not this overhyped Legendary crap) and I totally bricked her once she got on my ship. I even contemplated shooting her in the leg on Eden Prime so the husks could catch her and then I wouldn't even have to talk to her.
@@KravMagoo seriously? There are barely any difference between the base and legendary other than its has higher graphics. Like are you stupid?
When you talk to her and realize she's racist 🤢🤮
@@dr.science_0177 If by higher graphics you mean LE looks like My Little Pony and Teletubbies had a love child and slathered it in olive oil, sure. Everything shines all the time, including skin, and the color saturation is dialed up to 1000.
If you reject Garrus and do Virmire without Liara, it's impossible for Wrex to die on Virmire. He'll stand down before anyone can shoot him.
it was mentioned in video - you should watch it before commenting
@@daliothegamer I did watch the video and didn't see that. Could you point out a timestamp?
@@ScorpSt th-cam.com/video/k8XXvsyiEYA/w-d-xo.html
5:19
sorry, i'm too lame to do it correctly :/
@@daliothegamer Ah, I see. What he mentions in the video and what I mentioned in my comment are two different scenarios. In the video, he's talking about what happens if you haven't recruited Wrex when you go to Vermire. What I was talking about is if you do have Wrex but don't have Garrus or Liara. The game is set up so that you must have two party members at all times. Without Garrus and Liara, you have a total of 4 squadmates you can use (Ashley, Kaidan, Tali, and Wrex). Throughout the Virmire mission, both Ashley and Kaidan will leave your party. Now, while that's not permanent, that will leave a time when you can only have Tali and Wrex. Since you have to have 2 squadmates with you at all times, you can't kill Wrex and keep going through the game. Because of that, Wrex will survive the standoff no matter what you do.
@@ScorpSt I feel sorry for you explaining yourself. Next time don't do it just ignore the lesser minded.
I felt pain watching Shepherd rejecting pretty much his space family hurts man...
I find it funny the 2 squad mates I use the most are the only optional ones.
I almost never used Garrus...he died constantly and he whines like a child. After I had all of the characters, I used Liara and Tali exclusively. I wish I had known I could have left his ass on the Citadel.
@@KravMagoo how does it feel to not have a soul?
@@KravMagoo that was all the sauadmates in ME1, good thing he is amazing in ME2 and 3
@@KravMagoo He does die easily in my opinion, but I just love him too much. Idc Wrex can compensate for Garrus, I always took them with me. I love those two with all my heart ❤️
@@KravMagoo that's why health and armor for him are best to upgrade first cause his support fire late game is really good
I am grateful these videos exist, because we can see these curious things. There's no way I can reject Garrus.
Lone wolf Shepard would be pretty badass tho ngl.
Shame on you for even thinking that 😆
Isn't lone wolf Shepard basically Clone Shepard?
It would be boring to play tho ngl
@@AC-iz7eh they could have given us the option tho
Huh. Didn't know that you couldn't reject Tali.
Thanks Udina.
The only time I like Udina 😂
The only time Udina is useful
HellGateChannel oh my god you just mass effect remixed the thanks Obama meme.
Shepard had the right idea. Ashley is regular infantry, not SF and SF usually hate working with regular infantry. Tali isn’t in the military, much less SF trained, so again, Shepard has a good reason to not want her along. Garrus however, displayed that he had special combat training in Doctor Michele;s lab, so I’ve never rejected him.
As for Wrex, initial impression is that he is a muscle for hire for the Shadow Broker. This means that either he could be bought off by buying off the Broker, or he himself could be bought off. That’s why I rejected him on the Citadel in my ruthless renegade play through. Turned out well for me, since I could trick Wreav, get the salarian stealthy dreadnought fleet and save Mordin!
I considered attempting to reject her in a new game plus since Garis had the ability to decrypt/open everything which was the only reason I used Tali, but I took her anyway. Good to see what happens if you do try rejecting her though.
I lost it at "Tali Vas Nar Rayya"
How dare you insult our best girl in such a manner.
Just heard this and was immediately angry
Yeah that's not how Quarian names work. Young Quarians are known by the ship they were born on, which is where "nar Rayya" comes from. Adult Quarians are known by the ship they're serving on, which is why Tali was "vas Neema" in the beginning of ME2 and "vas Normandy" from her loyalty mission onwards.
Nearly spit up my drink when I heard "Vas Nar Rayya". I'm like um... she's on pilgrimage, so there's no 'Vas' yet. Enjoyed listening to the rest of it though
guys dont worry she dont mind- bruh stop beating eachother up
I'm not even a Quarian and that offended me.
Good to know that theres someone whos still doing mass effect content nice man good job
U can keep doing it ill appreciate
Yeah will become important again with legendary edition 😁
Thanks!
Give it two months, you’ll see quite a bit of new ME content coming in from more creators.
There will be a lot of vids coming from many people again as soon as the remaster of the entire trilogy is released. Too bad they are changing too much in the remaster to make it worth me buying it again when I can still play the original trilogy on my xbox 360.
The Liara hallucination bit is hysterical. I wish it was there by default.
I stumbled onto this by accident during a playthrough and it was honestly HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂
Seeing mass effect 1 after so many years it makes me realise how much i actually miss them sitting down and debriefing in the ship.
I totally forgot they do that.
Damn I lost it when it came to Jenkins “this one takes care of its self” 🤣🤣🤣
“There are six companions”
Us, Jenkins fans: *cry softly*
Leeeeeeroy hmmm jenkins
There are Jenkins fans?
@@TZACHI9 yeah, the same ones who get rid of ashley for her being too xenophobic ;D
I do wonder what Jenkins could have provided us
@@psycosanches589 I don't. The answer is painfully obvious: nothing of any importance.
"Wrex is an optional squadmate, even though he's not optional in our hearts" true words! I can't imagine going ME1 without Wrex. Best powerhouse of a character.
So true. It's awesome having a Krogan Battlemaster as your ace in the hole
I have missed playing as commander shepherd and can't wait till may comes
am like a little kid on a road trip..Are we there yet.!? Are we there yet..!?
Same
Udina knows that a Shepard without Tali will anger too many fans. That why he forces you to take her. What a clever politician (except when he is not)!
yea cuz he says reapers arent real
2:00 - "Good idea. / Okay. / Fine." ah yes, the BioWare choice system.
BioWare: where choices they claim matter don't matter at all....
That's important in an RPG. There's so many possible reasons your Shepard could be reluctant or happy to take on Ashley based on their background. Like lone survivor, war hero etc.
I don't have a problem with shepherd making a sound and logical in character decision, I just wish the dialogue wheel wouldn't show up if every choice is the same. Like just let them talk I don't need be in charge of every single thing shepherd says.
BUT THOU MUST!
actually these are rather different reactions... the only bad thing is that they don't impact your paragon/renegade score
Garrus: "Feel free to join me."
A bit of Vakarian sarcasm there? Lol
6:03 they are not shadow broker assassins, they are saren assassins, she was gonna sell her information to the shadow broker but fisk sold her out to sarens goons
Shadow Broker planned on killing Tali regardless.
@@DeclinedMercy where is this said?
@@steeldragon5730 Shadow Broker DLC on the dossiers.
@@sandrogamer30018 Why would he have Tali killed? What reason is given? He's already had one of his agents give Shepard information for free about Saren, so killing Tali is contradictory. I am not questioning you, though I have not personally seen this. I just find it odd.
@@GothicElf68 I just don't know really. But when I read that I was really glad I got to Tali in time and got really angry at the dead ex-Shadow Broker.
This is hard to watch
Yeah man same here'
I'm glad it hurt.
I don't know what's more weird. That everyone looks so low res, or that Shepard keeps swapping genders.
This video makes me really appreciate the graphical upgrade the Legendary Edition gave it.
Game here runs on lowest settings.
Optional squad mates??
Your Uncle Wrex is optional??
Your BBF Garrus is optional??
Your little sister Tali is optional??
What pit of darkness did you crawl out of, big man?? 😤
**update** I don't know what a "BBF" is or why I wrote it... but I ain't changing it 🤣👍🏾
Little sister? Don't know if I'd say little sister... Goddamn.
@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 from 1,2+3 my romantic partner was always Liara... every play through. So in my eyes, yeah, Tali was like a lil sis 👍🏾😁
@@VoidDragon82 I never really understood people liking Liara. She doesn't have a personality at all in ME1 and in ME2 and 3 she's kind of a boring stereotype.
@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 Shepherd does have a kid with her in all fairness but you don’t learn about it in the games
@@zithro_zero Wait, so in the book/comic adaptations or whatever the writers decided to have him go with Liara?
Goddamn, they keep ruining the franchise every time they touch it...
"No, the reapers aren't out of control AI, we wouldn't make it such an obvious thing."
LEVIATHAN DLC.
why do they even give you three dialog options on ashley, they are literally just three different degress of enthusiams about saying yes
Because that's important in an RPG. There's so many possible reasons your Shepard could be reluctant or happy to take on Ashley based on their background. Like lone survivor, war hero etc.
You know, first time I playes mass effect I did Theron last. I was so bummed I didn't have Liara from the start I made a new save. You can't romance Liara if you do her planet last.
I usually do hers first
@@AzureKyle the game is very vague about what you will find on Therum tho.
@@Kairac112 You find her, that's all I need.
Same
I got the impression from the game that I would be getting a party member so I went there first and always do.
Richard Jenkins; "RIIIICCCHHHHAAARRRDDDDDDD JEEEENNNNNKKKIIINNNNSSSSS!"
Shepard; "God damn it Richard."
Being a lone wolf is great... except at wolf picnics when you don’t have a partner for wolf wheelbarrow races
The only companions I need are my lightsaber collection.
I keep telling myself I’ll do a playthrough with as few companions and as many deaths as possible. Then I keep not doing it because I’m not a psychopath
I FEEL YOU!! I don't think I can get myself to shoot Mordin and not cure the genophage. I tried once, and couldn't get that renegade interrupt to happen.
i haven't even seriously considered to try it :/
...thanks to youtube and some maniacs on it i can watch the consequences of wrong choices without trying to experience them by myself ;)
usually evil options in games are atleast some what fun or satisfying (like having a giant power trip or taking revenge on character you didn't like)
this is not that fun.
“It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for em”
- Pepper Brooks
These videos are awesome and the fact that they are recently uploaded for a 10+ year old franchise makes it that much better
As much as I love Mass Effect, I can't imagine playing them so many times to find all the unique situations that could develop. Especially if that means skipping companions.
that's where youtube comes in handy ;)
...i myself once tried to just run around citadel riding elevators while switching teammates in-between just to hear those sometimes hilarious dialogs they do by themselves... still sure haven't hear them all - they do tend to develop depending on what missions you've completed...
I never tried this...ever..not even thought about it XD
It's a shame what happened to Jenkins. Would have been interesting to see a rookie like him react to all the crazy shit that happens in the trilogy.
LEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEENKIIIIINS
ever try to power him up before sending him out to that hill? he can wear literally any armor in game. you can max his health out as much as you can with ashley. still instadeath. someone hand him his red shirt please.
@@tracyfraser-bingham5823 I see what you did here
the way i played this game:
Ashley: "hey commander can I jo..."
Shepard: "go to my ship, NOW!"
Lol
A fellow individual of taste and refinement, finally! Okay, she can be speciesist at times, but she's just a great chara.
About forced party members:
When ME1 came out in Russia, it had very questionable translation. Dialog options during Ashley recruitment in Russian (re-translated back to english) looked like:
- Хорошая идея = Good idea
- Хорошо = Good
- Хорошо, пошли с нами = Good, come with us
That scene was turned into a meme "Лишний ствол" (Extra gunpower, as Kaidan said before). It was used a lot by haters to show, that ME1 is not an open-world RPG, as they hoped, but a railroad, with zero choice (a bit an exaggeration). The meme was quite popular, and even the game itself was often called "Лишний ствол" instead of the normal name.
That's really interesting, I love hearing about how games are received in other, non English speaking countries.
Months late, but... "Нам не помешает лишний ствол!"
I could never leave Garrus behind...
Dunno, it was sort of a connection to the guy the the first time I saw him and rejecting him just wasn't an option after that.
And in ME2, it was hunt to find him, and realizing he was Archangel was the greatest joy ever.
“Tali vas nar Rayya”
**Tali fans didn’t notice that**
THANK YOU I was scouring the comments to see who noticed that
This Physically hurts
I noticed this too
Glad to see someone noticed.
i paused on that moment to rewind to see if i misheard and noticed that fragment is called Tali'Zorah nar Rayya, so i forgave :)
Nice job Big Dan....this is what I've been looking for ❤️
I still think we should've had a Batarian squad mate like Garrus did on Omega. That would've been great, especially doing a mission on their homeworld in 3.
A real missed opportunity there.
I’m glad you did this I was wondering about not teaming up with aliens cause Speciesism is big in the first one
On my first playthrough I actually played most of the first game without Liara in my team. I just thought I had missed her at the Citadel (since most of the other team members were recruited there)
It was not the Shadow Broker's men waiting for Tali but Saren's.
I gotta go back to ME1 and recruit Liara at the end. That was hysterical!
Thanks for sharing. Always wondered what would happen but wasn't even prepared to do a playthrough to find out!
Man, watched this after playing legendary edition. Looked at Shepard and was like.....wow...he looks WAY worse than I remember, lol
Thanks for discovering all this, keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Love you Dan! I love testing out different scenarios like these.
Good on you Big Dan for that closing line 😆
It was so abrupt and got a good chuckle out of me
I've never heard such a savage putdown from shepard, threatening to put liara back in the volcano after delaying recruiting her. 😂
I cant wait to see your channel in June 2021.
The remaster is gonna be great for a lot of ppl.
Man, rejecting Garrus is heartbreaking.
I actually got that hallucination dialogue with liara because i didn't want to check all the 4 systems to look for her, and instead did the other missions, never thought it had another dialogue for that part
Shepard's Squadmates are what the game so special!
1:59 prime example of "but thou must" right there with it's three shades of "yes".
"This is Big Dan, I should go"
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Tali'Zorah nar Rayya. Quarians don't earn the vas part of their names until they've completed their pilgrimage
Or until you've gotten fucking exiled for the shit your father did which you had no idea about, but a cool commander from another species who didn't even care about quarians at all before meeting you just welcomes you to be a part of his team and his ship crew. Oh and to save the galaxy.
@@cjnf11 the "vas" part is reserved for the ship the Quarian is currently serving on. Serving in official capacity on board of the Normandy makes her vas Normandy, no exile or any other political stunt can take that away.
Dan the Brave, the only one who's bold enough to make the decisions that even would make a renegade blush
We all know every liara dialogue, we've all played Feros, Noveria, Virmire, Therum, in every possible order, the hallucination convo is hilarious but Normandy conversation makes most sense since only after you recruit her does the cipher become fully installed in your head
Yo, Big Dan, cool content, thanks for posting! : ) And now I gotta ask: why are you running the PS1 texture mod?
These dialogue options break my heart
No point in rejecting garrus if he’s mandatory in me2 anyway
Hey Dan - I was watching this video when I heard you say you get Liara from Feros, when that isn't the case, You get her from Knossos in the Artemis Tau. I know its not a huge deal but thought I'd toss that in. For those possibly never seeing her before, knowing where to go, and needs to have that info, nothing more. Love your videos!
I have actually tried to do this before, but I had to stop when everyone I talked to wouldn't stop insulting me for not taking everyone.
Jenkins really "lived" up to his namesake.
LEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKINS
"This was big Dan. I should go."
Sheesh you had me rolling at the end.
Dang this some savage asf put downs.
Are you gonna do a similar video for ME2
thank the goddess you did this so i didn't have to wonder anymore
"Wrex is technically an optional charcter but he is not optional in our hearts" Wrex is the best
Uncle Urdnot rulez. Grunt is baby Wrex so was bad as having the OG crew back in Citadel DLC. See ya at the party princess's 😎😈🤣
The Liara section made me laugh my ass off.. I have played THOUSANDS of hours in Mass Effect. It blows my mind there's stuff I never even knew about STILL.
ok the thought of actually watching this seeing my beloved characters rejected hurts me so someone please just tell me what happens if we do this war crime
This is commander Shepard......and these are my favourite videos on the citadel
RIP Jenkins
I can’t help but notice the affection in your voice whenever you mention virmire
It's crazy comparing this video to the legendary edition. ME1 was a bit rough lol
I felt it was a missed opportunity in dialogue to Liara to mention a "Human Spectre" as part of her "delusion"
Maybe. But as mentioned in the game it isn't the first time the council has considered a human for Spectre status so it isn't a ridiculous idea.
So many amazing years with this game and still always learning things about it
Playing this series for the first time I have to say haven't been this invested into a RPG since I played FF7 way back in 97
"Mass Effect is a choice-heavy game"
Good Idea
Okay
Fine, come with us
And then Kaiden did a backflip, snapped the bad guy’s neck, and saved the day!
Damn, at this point I’d just let the reapers take me
"There's no way to get rid of Kaiden...well, until Virmire". Fucking savage lol.