What Sort Of Chain Do I Need For My E-Bike? Ask EMBN Anything About EMTB
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- Are there E-Bike specific chains? What tyres should I use for my commute? Should I lubricate my E-MTB motor? Find out the answers to these questions and more in this weeks Ask EMBN Show
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I don't want to listen to 14 minutes of conversation because I was specifically looking for chains!!!
agree Wtf chain bait? Mate?
Some good content however I was looking specifically for Ebike chain advice, not a talk show. Eventually you touched on it. John Holms, you almost laughed but held back.
Bit late to the party and don't even think they're available now (the contact speed model seems the closest) but used to run conti sport contacts on my bike. 700cx38 completely slick aside from a groove for water clearance. Absolutely great on the road.
Amazing how Steve was able to sneak in the Johnny Holmes reference with a straight face. Lol. Love it.
I'm sure Chris didn't pickup on it. Probably well before his time. If I remember right Big John passed in the mid to late 80s from AIDS.
Not sure where you got the idea that most motors last 20,000 miles. I have just replaced the Bosch performance line CX after only 4000 km. I only ever clean the bike by hand after every ride, have replaced the chain 4 times, fitted new cassette and freewheel and the bike is 2 1/2 years old. The bearings were shot and the main shaft was pitted. I worked for 40 years in Oil and Gas service business responsible for maintaining equipment in the harshest of environments so I know a bit about looking after gear. I think there is a lot of miss information on the robustness of ebike motors. Steve Jones even had one replaced during the Tour du Mont Blanc.
Just yesterday Song someone with older Bosch Motor with over 22k kilometers
Iv done about 12 thousand miles on a Focus hard tail emtb, it has a impulse 2 motor which has been replaced twice with a brand new motor and 3 times with self reconditioned motors. Each time I have reconditioned one it has been the bearings at fault and once changed they have lasted as long as the new ones. But my average motor life has been 3000 miles the lowest was about 500 miles (which was a new motor).
The OEM Deore chain on my bike, works great @ 20.00 each.
I get 1000 miles on my Spectral ON chain and it barely shows wear.
Wow! Delighted to get a mention! Thanks guys - love the channel! :)
What is the obsession with having a quiet motor,I love the fact you can hear it! Get over it or buy a normal bike
Where I live everyone stares at you when they hear a motor. It gets really annoying.
people raise the travel on the levo all the time. Check out the EMTB forums. Fox 36 and dpx2 is a fav.160 is noted as the sweet spot and you can increase the rear travel by changing the shock to a 210x55. The bike has been christened the 'kelevo' by all the experts posting on that forum.
Sss Kkk what forum is that??
www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/let%E2%80%99s-see-your-levo.4990/
www.emtbforums.com/community/forums/specialized.4/page-2
Noticed that most official ebike motor really is quite noisy. Been using that bafang bolt on motor, to be honest it is pretty quiet for bolt on setup
To the person asking about tyres for commuting.. Halo twin rails is what you want theyre an inverted tread 2.2 (i think) able to go upto 80 psi .
I had nobby nic and Hans damph and I tore the knobs off both. I constantly had flats even with different compounds and layer set ups. I switched to maxxis minion dhf double down in rear and exo front never had a problem again.
They start talking about CHAINS at 11 minutes into this video.
What is the real difference between the original WD-40 and the EMBN look-alike product on the shelf in the background? Can it make my bike go faster, like racing stripes do on cars? Or is it a price thing? I don't see it in the on-line store... Available to factory riders only ?
Hi David, this is the original WD-40 product but with custom EMBN branding and was a gift.
Be careful with psi whilst most tyres are quoted as staying they will take up to 60psi this is with a tube not tubeless and the rim manufacturers max psi is often a lot lower wtb etc print this on there website last thing you want is to hit a hole at 60psi & blow the joint out from the rim
Yes we would always suggest you check the max rim pressures. Mountain bike rims are often not designed with high road pressures in mind. You can however run a 700c touring tyre as Chris suggested. Blowing tyres off rims sucks! And can be dangerous in a riding situation!
Thanks for answering the light question, appreciate it. Anyone else got some night ride tips, please let me know.
Frantisek Sram hope you find something! There are a lot of great options that run off their own batteries.
@@embn I'm quite fond of this light. Seems to tick all the boxes. Thanks again.
www.lightandmotion.com/shop/bike-lights/lights-for-e-bikes/seda-1800-e-bike
@SW H Shouldn't be too bad in England...? Where do you live?
You can get loads of re charbable lights on ebay for 20 to 30 quid... Look at cree lights... Iv had a few sets over the last decade... I run 1 on the bars and 1 on my lid, for extra vision... Mates also run them, nearly as good as lupine and exposure but loads cheaper.
I have a Lapierre overvolt and mines is quite noisy but thats how its been since new. My mates bosch is alot quiter
@ Love you guys and the info you give, however until you have a show called E-BN I don't know where else to ask this question, so I'm hoping you'll be able to answer - I'm looking for my 1st e-bike, not necessarily a E-MB, maybe a hybrid. Is there anywhere I can go and see a variety of different brands all in one location and try them out (maybe similar to the Verbier festival but in the UK)? Cheers
Hey Lynne, check out The Cycle Show 13-15th September NEC Birmingham. It's not a festival but you can see a lot of bikes and speak to manufactures and they have a test track where you can try out bikes. Hope this helps 👍
#askembn, please can you give advice on custom upgrades as I am looking to upgrade my cube reaction 500sl brakes and wheelset so what would you recommend ? I like Hope products 👍
Talk about any specific ebike chain lube as muc off vs normal chain lube too
what chain is best for sram eagle 12 speed? pc ex1 is only for 8 speed.
Steve, i noticed on your epic race across the alps that you ran out of battery quite quickly. What settings are you running the Levo motor on across Eco, Trail and Turbo as i seem to get much better mileage. Eco for example is at 22% on mine and Trail at 36%.
Many thanks for answering my eddy current question guys, the little added special effect was dope! 🤪🤘 I’ll go for the minions next, Steves smile told me he knows something but isn’t allowed to tell ^^ btw. the reason of so many tyre questions might be your latest tyre-video ^^
4 of us have been running eddy current tires for a while. I have had mine on for 9 months and have had two biking holidays on the roughest rocky descents and can say no knobbles lost. I had run minions but had so many flats when hitting the knarly stuff that I thought I'd give the eddy's a try... 3 days of riding in the lake district on the eddy's and not 1 flat tyre... 1st time this has happened in 25 years of riding there!! ..
#askembn I am riding a merida e160 it comes with 2.8 x 27.5 minion dhr, they are great for dh and aggressive riding.
Im giving serious thought to running running a set of 29" wheels with 2.3 - 2.4 tyres and rotor and cassette for my longer xc rides. The forks are 29er ready and the rear is roomy(ish)
Do you foresee any issues? Cassette/chain messing? Rotor / brake bedding, overall tyre diameter variation/ motor speed limiter?
Depends if its a mid drive or back hubb ???
Just what I needed to know. 🍻
Is it just me or does Steve and Chris looked pissed 😂🍻🍻
Dave 160sl
Lol, yes mate, they do! and that draught pump in front of them doesn't help matters either!
lost in space 54 if it serves doom bar I want a job with them 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
@@Dave-emtb Hey man, that's my favourite beer right now too. EMTBs and Doom Bar...What a job that would be.
lost in space 54 yeah definitely mate.... dream job 👍
Your summary on why a motor is noisy is spot on. I have a 2016 Scott E-Spark 710 with the Bosch CX motor. Which BTW totally silent. I had it replaced in November 2018 with a brand new motor under warrantee because of the usual problem with the old motors. Worn crank bearings. Guess what? The new motor is also silent. My mate has a 2016 KTM Macina. Bosch CX motor. His was as noisy as f**k. He has had 2 replacement motors all very noisy.
I hear a whining sometimes,
generally from the kitchen area when I request a second serving.
Hi guys great show can you get somebody clever to work out torque that goes through a normal mtb chain and emtb chain under various conditions as ‘this seems to be an ongoing conversation with my mates . Why does EMTB have more torque when you’re being assisted by a motor? Can we have a scientific test. Regards ST.
Why have big advert saying this is about chain choice when it should have been tyres and chain
I always crunch through the gears
you wanna change a Levo ?!? Go get a Kenevo 👍🏻😁
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Hub motors don't need special chains right? Just a torque arm on the dropout probably?
You are correct you only need torque arms if you are about 500w or more. Unless it's a front hub motor then fit on any power level.
@@danielgreen4213 thanks, I'm going 500w, 36v 10ah and wanted to make sure before it arrived
I would say it's worth while for peace of mind especially if you have a aluminum frame and they are dirt cheap and easy to fit.
@@danielgreen4213 I have a steel frame but I'm planning on this being a daily commuter so yeah, taking no chances
dude I had to look for where in the video you start to talk about the god damn title, thank you for the info, but it was kind of a hassle
I stick my bike in front of the dehumidifier for an hour or two after a really wet ride.
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@shenava Smart Sams aren't too bad for commuting on an EMTB.
#AskEMBN Anyone know if you can upgrade older Bosch CX fitted bikes with the newer Bosch CX motors.
Hey, no this is not currently possible however maybe in the future we might see some after market people making adapters.
@@embn Thanks Folks. Will keep ear to ground..
The main reason why I still don't own any Bike is the noise off E-Bikes. It's so annoying and I can't forget it
Schwalbe Super Moto-X tyres look good for road on a emtb. Check them out
If the bike is designed one way just leave it like that, buy another brand that meed your expextation
I did not liked kenevo SL so i got a bullit CC instead
#askembn Good show fellas! Do you know if anyone is planning to release an E-Bmx? I think it would be great as a general scoot around utility bike but also for shredding on the trails! PS, I like what Radpower bikes are doing with the radrunner but they have not gone there yet!
eBikes can take on water their IPX rated, IPX 6 I believe. You should do a video on how much water can an e Bike Take!!! Along with a Giveaway people like free stuff!!! Heres what IPX rating is...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
I thought this video about chin not tires.
If you get concrete questions, why don't you give concrete answeres?
your are sponsored so you have to say its best buying the shit where it is ebike specifik ... why are the big companies like scott trek giant or what so ever NOT selling there ebikes with ebike specifik parts if it is so important ???
Any emtb chain is suffice
Sorry lads but you well and truly dodged the chain question. Everyone knows e bike chains are a marketing scam. Just buy a basic sram, shimano, kmc chain. Lightweight chains are for regular bikes to save weight
E-Bike specific chains normally have larger diameter pins to help with strength and wear. Chain "stretch" is accumulated wear as the plates rub and wear down the pins. As Chris mentions the most important thing is to be sure to keep the chain clean and lubed correctly to reduce this friction.
ear plugs
Kmc ebike chain is the best, reusable missing link, dirt cheap. Pick a few up when you see them on sale.
TomaCukor my KMC 11e was worn (over 0,5) after 500km, cleaned and lubed almost daily. My shimano cn-e8000 chain is at 1000km now, still within 0,5 stretch. Going to put back on a KMC again next just to see if it was a coincidence, but so far shimano-kmc 1-0. Bike is a 19´ Merida 900e, riding trails 80% of the time.
KMC eBike Chains are scam ;-)
Just use any chain - like the SRAm 1130 for around EUR12,- - and will will last as long or longer.
Shimano so far good experience with tome to 0.5, same with SRAM. KMC eBike chain doesn´t last any kilometer longer as all the cheaper rivals
Thanks EMTB for answer :)
And here is background to my story:
Always i was big fan of shimano drivetrain (for my obsolete bikes: 7-8-9 speed).
In 2012 i bougt Trek with 10spd Sram drivetrain and my local dealer recommend 1030 or 1050 Sram chains, and never got a single problem with that.
But one time i try buy something posh: shiny 1091 lightweigth with hollow pins... Runs like a dream, instant gear change and because lighweight - less wobbly.
3rd ride on it (80km done on chain) I made agresive gear change down at front chainrings - it bend like a rubber ;)
Now trying KMC X10 (10 spd) "silver-black" - seems to be fine, just one thing i don't like: Quick Link is same colour as chain - difficult to find (especially after ride in rain and mud)
Usually my chains worn out after 1000-1200km with my ridding style (time when reach 0.5 limit) I never wait up to 0.75 - casettes/chainrings are more expensive to replace.
Price is similar for Sram/KMC/Shimano "basic" chains - I try not buy Shimano - because every time with new chain i need to buy Quick Link, make it more expensive.
With my fist EMTB bought I stay with KMC "heavy duty" ebike chain. But no experience with this type of machine so far.
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