the bike is a Giant Stance E-2019 I decided this pairing with air room . the bike is a little harder to ride and gets towed going to icidere on the battery , but being me very light Idecided to do this configuration ... Hi guys - front - SCHWALBE Tire Magic Mary 27,5 2,80 -rear- Copertone Minion DHR II Exo Tubeless Ready Dual 27.5 2.60
On my EMTB I'm using the Maxxis Minion DHF (2.5 at the rear!) and the DHRII (2.4 at the front) in summer in mostly dry conditions (hard pack or soft over hard). In winter (or lets say when it gets a little muddier) I switch to Schwalbe Eddy Current (2.6 soft rear) and Magic Mary (2.6 soft front), which is a great combo in tricky conditions. Great vid! Thank you.
That last bit about picking DD is where I’d love the conversation to start. It appears that ebikes with their added weight and abilities suggest perhaps for most that tires that have best traction, braking, puncture resistance, regardless of nominal rolling speed and some added battery drain would be best? I’m leaning towards Front: assegai DD maxxgrip Rear: DHR DD maxxterra Slightly harder compound on rear for wear. This way I can plow up and down over most anything, have great cornering and braking, with just a little added battery drain. Thou may go with less grippy, slightly faster aggressor on rear for more playful DH… Thoughts? Appreciate it!
Nice to see some content about every day issues. I've only had 3 sets of tyres so a far 1 year emtbing. The difference in each one is massive. Now it's winter I think I'm going to change for some mm soft dh.
Come on guys. You can't make any conclusions on the basis of 1 to 3 seconds time difference. You would have had a similar variation in time if you had done 3 runs on the same tyres!!
Preferring the big nobbed tyres with robust carcasses, i would be interested in a comparison between them: magic mary, eddy current, minion dhf/dhr, hillbilly, butcher grip, etc.
Eddy current on the rear and a dhr on the front, both 2.8, on a mondraker E-crafty, I do find the front washes out in the wet so might try something different in the future, nice work guys and gals
I change according to conditions, Continental trail king for summer/fireroad type use, Schwalbe Hans Dampf for general purpose/wet forest and Schwalbe Eddy Current for all-out mud plugging
Interesting results Steve! You were noticeably less poppy and nimble with the DH casing on the end and seemly much more out of breath at the end. I was expecting the DH casing and MaxxGrip compound to take the fastest time too but it was the slowest!!! I have been running DD or DH casings MaxxGrip Assegai front and rear and love them. Cush core is too fussy for me but I do add Huck Norris in the back so I can use lower tire pressures and destroy my rim on landings. So far I have been favoring maximum grip for fun and speed on technical natural trails but a portion of my friends are still proponents of single ply hard compounds😱One buddy refuses to let me try his bike in fear of me Kerchunking his rear rim 😝. Range is reduced though. No scientific evidence but we think 10-15% less range with DH and MaxxGrip vs single and MaxxTerra.
I'm quite a fan of both the Hutchinson Toro and Hutchinson DZO, but they do suffer from side wall bleeding when used tubeless. I also use WTB Vigilante tyres, but they can be a pain to get off and on when out and about. I also run Schwalbe Nobby Nics and Magic Mary tyres.
I appreciate your vids, but a 3s difference is not enough to make any determination with respect to speed. That’s within the noise. To many variables. Otherwise content of this video is excellent as usual.
Hello EMBN, I have a Specialized Vado 5.0 2022 version. I use it to do grocery deliveries. My problem is that I get too many punches. What kind of tyre do you recommend I use? I do not always use it on smooth surfaces, sometimes to get to the destination quickly I turn to go through parks, bushes etc. The bike I use is very powerful with a 90NM Toque so speed is not a problem. I just need a tyre that would get me to my destination quicker with fewer or no punchers. My current tyre setup: FRONT TYRE Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3 REAR TYRE Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3 Inner Tubes Schrader, 40mm valve
Yea we think in many cases you can run a little bit more of an aggressive tyre as the added rolling resistance isn't going to affect you like it would on a standard mtb.
I run assegei dh casing both front and rear on my levo! I don't care about how fast i go! Don't have to worry about getting flats when ride. And i ride in rocky stuff mostly! And use them on my sentinel! Just take my time going up. And rip,it on the way down!
On my 2014 S-Works Camber I run the Ground Control tires and love them. But I am waiting for my Turbo Levo and they got Butcher grid 2.6 front and Eliminator 2.3 rear. But I guess Specialized knows what suits the most?
Thanks Steve for the info. When will maxxis do there 2.8 dhr with a down hill casing. I have the dhf on my canyon and the side wall with to weak. I just changed over to eddy current. And they are a lot stronger
I don’t think that a tyre’s rolling resistance in regard to range is a consideration for most ebike riders as the duration of a typical ride is well within the capacity of an ebike battery. It would only be a consideration in regard to mega rides. I think that grip, puncture resistance and comfort are the main considerations in regard to tyre selection.
I live in Las Vegas and ride lots of desert environment, rocks and sand.... I ride a Specialized Levo Comp with the stock tires. Any recommendations on a good upgrade? My current tires seem to slip a lot
Hi 👋 nearly time to change my tyres I've got a new shorty to fit. would it be best front or back I have assegia too .not sure how the shorty would cope on the front with tweed Valley wet roots.was thinking assegai front shorty rear on my levo any advice based on your experience be great thanks Callum
All a bit subjective innit? My KTM came with 2.35" Nobby Nics which here in the Highlands are a bit scary but they're about to be replaced with 2.6" Magic Mary Addix Sport Grip Gravity (blue stripe?) which looking at the DT Swiss site is about what I'm comfortable the rims can take... NN's are a good all rounder but not for natural trails here...
Conti/Schwalbe also make some great touring/commuter tyres. If you are running hybrid commuter tyres on a MTB make sure you check out what the maximum pressure for your rims are as the tyre max pressures may be higher and can cause cracks around the spoke nipples if inflated too high.
Few years ago, on non E-bikes, I used to put a wider tyre on the front with less pressure, for more grip in corners, and a narrower on the rear for better efficiency. Something like 2.35 front/2.10 rear. How come it's the opposite now ?
Absolutely nothing Scientific about this video at all..... nothing...even the way he was timing himself was variable. Only thing I’d take from this was his personal impressions on each tire and how they performed. even that was his personal perspective Just ignore the times and listen to the recommendations
What tyres do you use on your E-MTB? Let us know below!
the bike is a Giant Stance E-2019 I decided this pairing with air room . the bike is a little harder to ride and gets towed going to icidere on the battery , but being me very light Idecided to do this configuration ... Hi guys
- front - SCHWALBE Tire Magic Mary 27,5
2,80
-rear- Copertone Minion DHR II Exo Tubeless Ready Dual 27.5 2.60
Liking my good all round Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.60's
Schwalbe DansHanf 29x2.35 and the back wheel. And front Maxxis DHF 29x2.3.
WTB trail boss front and rear, 29x2.6, TCS tough, fast rolling.
Try some comp 16s jonesy 😀
On my EMTB I'm using the Maxxis Minion DHF (2.5 at the rear!) and the DHRII (2.4 at the front) in summer in mostly dry conditions (hard pack or soft over hard). In winter (or lets say when it gets a little muddier) I switch to Schwalbe Eddy Current (2.6 soft rear) and Magic Mary (2.6 soft front), which is a great combo in tricky conditions. Great vid! Thank you.
That last bit about picking DD is where I’d love the conversation to start. It appears that ebikes with their added weight and abilities suggest perhaps for most that tires that have best traction, braking, puncture resistance, regardless of nominal rolling speed and some added battery drain would be best?
I’m leaning towards
Front: assegai DD maxxgrip
Rear: DHR DD maxxterra
Slightly harder compound on rear for wear.
This way I can plow up and down over most anything, have great cornering and braking, with just a little added battery drain. Thou may go with less grippy, slightly faster aggressor on rear for more playful DH…
Thoughts? Appreciate it!
Nice to see some content about every day issues. I've only had 3 sets of tyres so a far 1 year emtbing. The difference in each one is massive. Now it's winter I think I'm going to change for some mm soft dh.
Michelin E-Wild Front and Rear in 27,5x2,6.Excellent Tyres!
Minion dhf 29x2.60(3c Max Terra, exo, tr) front and specialized eliminator 27,5x2.60(2bliss, blck dmnd, e-bike) rear. It's gooood!!!
Come on guys. You can't make any conclusions on the basis of 1 to 3 seconds time difference. You would have had a similar variation in time if you had done 3 runs on the same tyres!!
Preferring the big nobbed tyres with robust carcasses, i would be interested in a comparison between them: magic mary, eddy current, minion dhf/dhr, hillbilly, butcher grip, etc.
Schwalbe 2.8 magic Mary front and 2.8 Eddie current rear it’s a great combo for any trails man made or natural
Eddy current on the rear and a dhr on the front, both 2.8, on a mondraker E-crafty, I do find the front washes out in the wet so might try something different in the future, nice work guys and gals
Dhr2 has way more grip , i run both ends now
Smooth, treadless road tyres..it makes the trails more fun.
I change according to conditions, Continental trail king for summer/fireroad type use, Schwalbe Hans Dampf for general purpose/wet forest and Schwalbe Eddy Current for all-out mud plugging
Interesting results Steve! You were noticeably less poppy and nimble with the DH casing on the end and seemly much more out of breath at the end. I was expecting the DH casing and MaxxGrip compound to take the fastest time too but it was the slowest!!! I have been running DD or DH casings MaxxGrip Assegai front and rear and love them. Cush core is too fussy for me but I do add Huck Norris in the back so I can use lower tire pressures and destroy my rim on landings. So far I have been favoring maximum grip for fun and speed on technical natural trails but a portion of my friends are still proponents of single ply hard compounds😱One buddy refuses to let me try his bike in fear of me Kerchunking his rear rim 😝. Range is reduced though. No scientific evidence but we think 10-15% less range with DH and MaxxGrip vs single and MaxxTerra.
I'm quite a fan of both the Hutchinson Toro and Hutchinson DZO, but they do suffer from side wall bleeding when used tubeless. I also use WTB Vigilante tyres, but they can be a pain to get off and on when out and about. I also run Schwalbe Nobby Nics and Magic Mary tyres.
I appreciate your vids, but a 3s difference is not enough to make any determination with respect to speed. That’s within the noise. To many variables. Otherwise content of this video is excellent as usual.
Hello EMBN, I have a Specialized Vado 5.0 2022 version. I use it to do grocery deliveries. My problem is that I get too many punches. What kind of tyre do you recommend I use? I do not always use it on smooth surfaces, sometimes to get to the destination quickly I turn to go through parks, bushes etc. The bike I use is very powerful with a 90NM Toque so speed is not a problem. I just need a tyre that would get me to my destination quicker with fewer or no punchers.
My current tyre setup:
FRONT TYRE
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
REAR TYRE
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
Inner Tubes
Schrader, 40mm valve
Usually I use round tires. ❤️
Noob...
I just want a strong, durable tyre that can handle a mixture of tarmac, gravel and hardpack without causing too much drain on the battery.
Maxxis Rekon 2.6 rear, Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 front. Both 27.5.
Had stock 2.8 DHR2, swapped out for Assegai’s 2.5 in 27.5.. front is a max terra exo and rear is a max grip DD..
Schwalbe Eddy Current 👍
End of story ✌️
Love the assegai, sacrifice a bit of rolling speed for the in corner stability
Yea we think in many cases you can run a little bit more of an aggressive tyre as the added rolling resistance isn't going to affect you like it would on a standard mtb.
assegai 3C 2.5 front, assegai 2.5 rear, in a turbo levo is a night and day difference with the oem tires.
I run assegei dh casing both front and rear on my levo! I don't care about how fast i go! Don't have to worry about getting flats when ride. And i ride in rocky stuff mostly! And use them on my sentinel! Just take my time going up. And rip,it on the way down!
On my 2014 S-Works Camber I run the Ground Control tires and love them. But I am waiting for my Turbo Levo and they got Butcher grid 2.6 front and Eliminator 2.3 rear. But I guess Specialized knows what suits the most?
Thanks Steve for the info. When will maxxis do there 2.8 dhr with a down hill casing. I have the dhf on my canyon and the side wall with to weak. I just changed over to eddy current. And they are a lot stronger
easy - and only - answer: MAXXIS MINION DHF/DHR 3C maxxterra.
topic closed.
next video please 😎
Do you choose to ever change your tyres depending on terrain or choose to run the same combo all year round?
I don’t think that a tyre’s rolling resistance in regard to range is a consideration for most ebike riders as the duration of a typical ride is well within the capacity of an ebike battery. It would only be a consideration in regard to mega rides. I think that grip, puncture resistance and comfort are the main considerations in regard to tyre selection.
Best tire for fun and skill building: Thread Bare Slicks
I live in Las Vegas and ride lots of desert environment, rocks and sand.... I ride a Specialized Levo Comp with the stock tires. Any recommendations on a good upgrade? My current tires seem to slip a lot
US Secretary of the Interior opens National park trails to eMTB! Whoohoo~~~
Hi 👋 nearly time to change my tyres I've got a new shorty to fit. would it be best front or back I have assegia too .not sure how the shorty would cope on the front with tweed Valley wet roots.was thinking assegai front shorty rear on my levo any advice based on your experience be great thanks Callum
All a bit subjective innit? My KTM came with 2.35" Nobby Nics which here in the Highlands are a bit scary but they're about to be replaced with 2.6" Magic Mary Addix Sport Grip Gravity (blue stripe?) which looking at the DT Swiss site is about what I'm comfortable the rims can take... NN's are a good all rounder but not for natural trails here...
I'm a commuter with a kit I was just going to run Contis
Conti/Schwalbe also make some great touring/commuter tyres. If you are running hybrid commuter tyres on a MTB make sure you check out what the maximum pressure for your rims are as the tyre max pressures may be higher and can cause cracks around the spoke nipples if inflated too high.
Maxxis if you are okay with getting a flat once in awhile. If not then go with Panaracer.
ciao ragazzi vi saluto da Pesaro terra dei motori VR46 , seite grandi
hello guys I salute you from Pesaro land of enginesVR46 , you're big.
He was racing at Silverstone in England last Sunday but missed the podium!
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Interesting video, though I suspect most riders wouldn't notice the difference. Were you using these tyres tubeless?
What about ebike specific tyres? I love my schwalbe eddy currents in every condition
Gibby Kirwan , I also love my eddy current rear, haven’t tried the front I’ve got a maxxis dhr until it needs changing
Minion 2.8's great tyres tho will try 2.6 for the extra range on big treks
Minion 2.8 measure 2.6 so i run 2.8s still
@@CarkeekW ah ok thanks mate,do really like em
Hi, you've got me really confused when you mention tyre profile, to me that means aspect ratio, are you just referring to the width? Great video 5* :)
Few years ago, on non E-bikes, I used to put a wider tyre on the front with less pressure, for more grip in corners, and a narrower on the rear for better efficiency. Something like 2.35 front/2.10 rear.
How come it's the opposite now ?
I do the same, 2.40 front 2.25 rear
Just because here he has a 27.5 rear and 29 front!
I find the dhf front on my spectral gets full of FoD mud very quickly
You guys love that spectral on, do you recommend? They're on sale at moment.
Love my 7!
Delivery in the UK was a bit strange but was worth it.
Downhill go all sites
Wiltshire flint will render them all scrap,havent found a tire yet cope with flint.
Absolutely nothing Scientific about this video at all..... nothing...even the way he was timing himself was variable. Only thing I’d take from this was his personal impressions on each tire and how they performed. even that was his personal perspective Just ignore the times and listen to the recommendations
This was hardly scientific.