I'm slowing going through your whole series. Out of all the channels, I appreciate your (both of you) approach to everything. I've been bit by the sailing bug and now I'm hooked. I started sailing recreationally at a local harbor renting Rhodes 19's for a couple hours at a time. Now I'm on the lookout for my first buy. I met someone just yesterday to see his Cal 20 and he immediately invited me out to sail. I love the community and familiarity of other sailors.
This guy is not a yacht broker but he very well could be working for one. I left you tube for over 6 months while travelling. I return and he's right there still preaching the same words.
This looks like a Prout Quest 33. This is the same model as we circumnavigated from '92 to '96. It needs lots of cosmetic work, but it is a solid, safe, good boat. It is well outfitted, but also well used. Ours was build in 1986 and when we circumnavigated this was before multihulls were popular - we were considered pretty crazy by some. However, these are nothing like the modern cats and are heavily built, under canvassed and sail more like a monohull (5 knot passages when laden down) than today's boats. This may be okay, considering you are coming from a monohull in the first place. Certainly a good candidate for electric as they are lighter and can go faster, although there is limited space for batteries. Happy to discuss pros/cons further.
probably the only post out of #277 with actual real world experience, do these actually slam as much as everyone on here says they do? I can’t imagine on a downwind tropical circumnavigation that these boats would slam as much as everyone claims.
I had a Prout Snowgoose 37, which was the next boat up from the Quest. Really good, safe, and fast cruiser. We used to sail it at an average speed of 10 knots. Very good in heravy seas, unlike modern cats, it has narrow hulls, which are better for performance and stability, but not so good for accomodation. Great boat, I would have another in a heartbeat.
How do you achieve 10 knots ON AVERAGE in a boat that has a theoretical hull speed of only ~7.8 knots and a hull shape that looks like 100% displacement-type only, i.e. almost no planing capability at all? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to discredit the Snowgoose 37, there is a lot to like about them (except for maybe regarding bridgedeck clearance / slamming and I'm not so sure about capsize-safety with low-weight narrow-beam cats - that's two aspects I'd NOT like in heavy seas), I think it's quite exciting if the 10 knots are actually true, but are you sure about that, I mean even ON AVERAGE? What was the top speed? I'm also curious how many knots it did under engine power (in calm water and zero wind conditions) relative to the engine's kW output at full throttle. Do you have these numbers? This would be very interesting in order to get an idea of the hull efficiency, because judging efficiency based on wind has too many factors (speed, gusts, direction, sail-plan, sails condition...). On another note: although I like slender hulls a lot for performance, why do you think that they increase stability? The narrower they are (including the canoe stern), the less reserve buoyancy they can offer when they plunge down a wave, therefore I'd assume that especially longitudinal stability (pitch) is lower.
That's value for money It would make a comfortable bahama and Carib cruiser. Solid fiberglass hull construction built with British almost 100% waterproof BS1088 marine plywood joinery. Reliable performance , not set the world on fire but it's called cruising for a reason. Thanks for showing us these boats that our out there! For the people who want galley up........get your wallets out and spend really money , for $50k with some cosmetic work you have a very cheap way to get a lot of room on the water , the one thing not obvious is the single engine I think ( unless it’s hydraulic drive to 2 props) better for island that tight marina usage. Cheers Warren
That seems like a damn good deal. It is so well equipped with water maker and heater. I don't normally like a down galley but ironically on a smaller cat like this, you weren't in such a deep hole and isolated from the main cabin. Really nice icebox too. The little tech room in rear sponson is awesome and could be very versatile with a drop down bunk added and maybe even some simple enclosures around water maker equipment (fully removable for maintenance, obviously). You could literally have 3 sleeping quarters on a 33 ft. boat and still keep the ability to store or use for tech. The only thing that scares me is the rigging which might make me offer slightly less for a contingency for replacement before any serious cruise. Thanks for reviewing!
hello, with synthetic rigging you may get away from spending a fortune on the rigging upgrade. I agree that the setup is quite nice. Only thing I noticed is that the helm area seems quite small.
@@tiborkiss9186 I was actually figuring dyneema. I agree the helm is a little small but it isn't bad considering it is only 33 ft. So that is all you get without compromising the saloon and berths.
There's your boat. Perfect for the three of you. One thing I have to say, you show boats that people are trying to sell. Sometimes you have a tendency to say an engine needs replacing or rebuilding just because it has some rust on it or just doesn't look that nice. When it comes to engines, in absolutely no way does the exterior looks of engine reflect the condition. Before you even give an opinion of the engine, you should be ready to tell your viewers the hours on the engine. I've been a mechanic for 35 years. I've seen diesel engines that looked completely wasted start up and run for over 200,000 miles or thousands of hours. That engine could very likely outlive the boat. Diesel engine last far longer than gas engine. Even longer on sail boats. Other than that, nice viewing and nice boat.
Perhaps it should be described as neglected, interested people need to have a serious look at this engine before buying the boat its not been cared for which may mean low hours but less attention and regular maintenance.
@@brianlockyer4389 Yes anything other than suggesting the engine might need replacing because of rust. I would suggest the seller rust protect the engine before showing it. Service records are a must before suggesting anything.
Prouts were one of the 1st proper production cruising catamarans. Just about all Prout Quest 33s were sailed around the globe. They were also designed for going through locks, hence a little narrow, but could fit in a small keeler berth in any marina. Designed and built in UK, Prouts suit colder countries very well, hence cosy feel inside. Its has lots of other benefits over modern French cats. If you want to bigger a Prout Escale 39 will take you anywhere and no need to upgrade in the future.
For the price and what you get...That isn't bad at all....I don't think it will depreciate that much more...so even if you paid $40 to $42,000...You will not be losing money....It would be worth investing money into it....For the money....it would give a person a lot of freedom and a platform to a bigger and better boat....PS You two are appreciated....Thanks!
Lovely Prout with a Solid Shout too sun bath, in . Well structured, cat with great provenance and performance.Go for it don't delay .but buy an electronic device too see how thick THE hull, is AND check for Dampness or delaminaceion..!!
Step one...dry dock and a full survey! If the hull is sound, rigging is good, mechanical is working or repairable, this boat is a gem. Cleaning, Gelcoat repair, Bright Work, New Lines, Service all moving parts and the engine, $10K Maximum. If I had the money, I would fly down and buy it, on condition of a survey results being favorable of course.
Yup, a very nice candidate indeed. One thing that should be mentioned is that even if some of the gear isn't up to snuff, the facilities have already been provided. Replacing something like the water maker would be nothing of the issue it would be from the ground up. Through hulls, filters, piping, power etc are already there. That accounts for a LOT in my book regardless of the operational condition of the existing unit.
I started watching because the DIY Boat And Other DIY Projects I enjoyed the Energy of you Both and continued watching right through to this Video am Sad at the direction this Channel has appeared to have taken with walking through other peoples boats instead of working on Freebie ???? I have a Custom 32 footer that I've been Refitting myself as well, I do wish you both well and Hope that happiness and health with wealth follow you wherever You both Go. I have Subbed but not sure Ill hang around if Looking at other peoples boats is what this has Become and Stays. Sorry If I have unintentionally Offended this was not my intention Good luck In your refit and with Freebie.
Sailing Lady Africa has a "smallish" cat - it looks like it originally had a single inboard engine. Ricky (captain) got a deal and was able to install two aft, inboard engines (one in each hull) - which is great for redundancy - I think they are fairly compact too ... they just started sailing (from the vlog timeline). 5:41
I have two and half years to go. There are really ready to go monos for the price. You watch bums on a boat? Well my channel would be bum on a boat. Lol
Sailing Lady Africa is similar - maybe a bit bigger and they upgraded to twin inboard engines (though they are running under the aft cabins (IIRC) - after about 2 years of work. th-cam.com/video/KvU2LLUaEqU/w-d-xo.html
Have a look at the boat I have, a Gemini 105M or the 105MC. They are 34' with the same basic layout but having seen this I would say they feel a bit roomier. The forward berth on the 105 is definitely a queen.
Late reply, BUT the Gemini cat is horrible in rougher seas, even 2 foot waves and swells they pound and propose like mad!, I know, my friend has 1, and I would never again go out in that boat unless the seas were flat calm
I'm not a boat expert, but i think the price is on the high side . I think it could be a really good boat , fixed up , and if the survey came back good with no major structure issues. Just my opinion. Good vid
Thanks for the review. Those little Prouts are quite capable. Yes, many have crossed oceans. If you want a little more boat, check out the Proust Snow Goose 37. Very similar but bigger, but still in the affordable category. Yes they are quite old. This one was indeed very well equipped. AC and Spectra WM. They are unusual in that the mast is quite far aft. This gives a small hi-aspect ratio main and a large fore triangle with staysail. But it works! The Snow Goose in particular have made many many distant voyages. They really ushered in the cruising catamarans popular now. On the engine. Don’t let that spook you. The location exposes it to some salt moisture which give it a very worn look but it may be internally just fine. They are great engines.
Another great boat tour. Well done! Can I ask you to do a tour of a 1972 Camper & Nicholson 48 located in Marathon? Who knows you might have already seen it. Just trying to save the cost of a return flight from Seattle if she is not worth it. Thanks. Keep the tours coming. Learning lots!
@@jedi201 ohhhkaayyy fered they are soooo completely different I don't know what made me think they look so fucking similar that it was worth letting someone on here that might buy it to go have a look at something that is so different they might get some idea of what they would be facing. Stop being a pedantic prick.
I've been following your videos and enjoying them , I would like look at some hurricane damaged catarmarans, but I don't know how tho go about finding these damaged boats, do you know any places that these boat are or stored so I could go and look at them. I guess I must be asking the wrong questions or to the wrong people because no one has answered me. With all the hurricanes that hit the gulf this season there must be some insurance company or salvage companies around that have boats. If you could would you please give me a place to start.. I sure would appreaciate.. I hope to talk to you at the Maimi boat show and a big thank you if you could give me any information on finding a boat..
I love the price, I'm okay with a small boat but I want a catamaran because there cooler then mono hulls in my opinion, think 2 people could fit in there comfortably with room for others to join sometimes? Also I'm literally a kid so I know nothing about catamarans or sailboat in general but would this be freshwater one or saltwater
You guys seem to know a lot about catamarans I’m interested if you guys have a ‘buyers’ guide tips and tricks when buying what to look for what to avoid what to have double checked etc?!? 😻
It is a fairly well equipped small catamaran. It is in relatively good condition; in any case, it seems cared for and usable. There would be work on it and development needed, but there is imagination in it. The realistic price is $ 33,000- $ 34,000.
Nice review, it is a nice catamaran, as you say needs some updating and freshening up. Prout made very solid boats, not the styling for everyone but could be updated and has all the gear. Andy UK
Depends what your sailing plan is. Do we know what your plan is ? Sorry I'm discovering this channel now and not sure whether you want to be coastal liveaboards or worldnavigators ?
I'm amazed at the number of ignorant armchair opinions here. Prout began building cats in the very early 60's, and stayed with the same design philosophies to the end. These cats are not fast; 10 knot cruising is NOT a reasonable expectation. Getting where you want to go IS. Tough, and manageable in weather bad enough to scare crews on boats twice as long and four times the displacement, more Prouts have circumnavigated than any other. There isn't a blue water destination that hasn't seen a thirty-something proud in the last fifty years. They are the most significant chapter in multihull sailing. These solid fiberglass vessels were over built simply because we didn't know back then how tough they would be. I saw a Prout 50 plow into a concrete bulkhead at a knot or two, and the damage was limited to the concrete, and a bit of paint on one bow. Prout had a good reason for moving the mast aft; it reduced the size of the mainsail, making it easier to manage, and provided for a larger genoa that benefited from not hanging behind a big draggy mast with lots of paraphernalia attached. That single two-speed winch is an adequate solution, but I would look into mounting a smaller winch on the bulkhead under the mast for halyards and reefing. You can't beat the Yanmar 3G30 for reliable power and economy. They can look pretty salty on the outside and run like a sweet little sewing machine on the outside. They are a no-brainer if they need an overhaul. Just do it. My guess is that this cat is well priced at under $50K. Being a Button Freak, I would accept any excuse to update the electronics. First item would be a Standard Horizon Matrix AIS/GPS (GX2200) radio, Then a Simrad Radar and Multi Function Display. That would make my day. I am an elderly Blue Water Cruiser and past owner of five large cats, the last was a Chris White Atlantic 42.
Sandy Daugherty Great rundown on this Prout and the Atlantic 42 is a beauty. I have always wondered if Prouts with their small main and mast so far aft can sail and tack on main alone. Do you know about that?
I would move salon foward up to the windows and why the half wall by oven would like autopilot contrl by window also. Just seems lot of wasted space. If money problem could live with it just fine. I suspect engine rebuild rigging and sails are needed. When you want to say go to south pacific.
Hey guys. Just saying hello. Funny how TH-cam is showing us all these sailing videos of small Cats now that we own a small Catamaran. Annette loving calls "our kitten". We dont know your story yet. Just enjoying the walk through on this Cat.
Both of you are exposed to enough pretty but pricey boats, and have enough experience to know the value of systems needed for offshore cruising! This has the makings for a dream boat but both of you have to realize that it will take some effort, and you'll probably pass other prettier boats. So how much space will the 3 of you need, that's the task....before paying for a thorough survey.
Probably, The bridge deck (hull) even has a vee shape to it which won't help with slap, but will keep it from acting like a brake in waves. Every design has its compromises.
@@SkeezixIL that is neither safe nor sufficient. With propane heavier than air, venting needs to be from the bottom and open to the outside. Also needs a dedicated locker, not one shared with a compressor which is nearly certainly not ignition protected.
Great video as always. The issue with electric would be having enough solar panels and batteries and that would mean extensive study of how long it takes to recharge while sitting under a stationary front etc.
You can get a motor/generator with fully adjustable prop. In anything over about 10-12 Knots of breeze you should be able to charge at a good rate for a sacrifice of half a knot of speed. If you only use the motor for manoeuvring or safety then a second hand Tesla battery would probably suffice. Slocum, Voss et al managed with no motor at all, but we’ve all got scheduling “imperatives” in our busy lives.
offer 28k and grab this one! The Prout will take you anywhere and you wont spend a fortune on it and will get to where you want to go! Just add a second dometic and your equipment room is great! Repower with electric and some tesla batteries and you're all set!
Help me out with something . Why does your skin look like plastic in the gopro footage? Is it a gopro setting or is it accomplished in your editing software ?
@@Clickumentary yes. For 50k a 2person comfortable cat is a steal. That engine is a Yanmar so repairs should be minimal for a rebuild. The corrosion may be salt or old battery. Wouldnt know until you got stuck in her. Could do all the repairs, brightwork, and engine work for cheaper possibly. But if you are gonna be stuck on the hard for a few months why not upgrade and make her as pretty as possible.
Always enjoy your videos. To me it's like buying a lottery ticket which allows you to dream of things that will not happen. And then reality sets in: I'm 78 years old and have a wife that doesn't want to move further from shore than you can throw a rock at. Just at well, it was fun to pretend.
Yep, a bit dingy. Think for a few decades they were trying to re-create the interior of a sailing schooner. Seen a few old boats painted a light colour inside which is nice and looks bigger too.
It wouldn't be a bad time builder for a newish sailor. It has modern nav, a diesel that looks like it runs, and a place to sleep. The propane system really needs to be redone or elininated entirely. Sail the poop out of it for a year or two and dump it at the end. Treat it like a rental.
@@joeblow1942 You are right. lol. I was trying to be kind. The accepted formula is if wave height exceeds twice the vertical bridge deck clearance you are going to pound. It can be made worse if there is excessive weight in the forward half of the boat like anchors and chain. Of course, the more weight aboard, the lower the vertical clearance. As originally designed, built, and equipped, she probably started pounding in 3 foot seas.
@@joeblow1942 lol. I attended a seminar on catamaran design several years ago at IBEX. I still have a few notes: 1. Vertical bridge clearance should be minimum of 5.6% of LOA. 2. Vertical clearance x 2 = height of waves at which slamming starts
Lady Africa is a Dean Oceanliner, they are very similar to the Prouts of the day. More so the Elite and the Escale. The Quest 33 CS was just an extended Quest 31. The Event 34 is nicer. Best sailing performance of all is the 35 and 37. The 35 is a very different boat though. Maybe I'll do a walkthrough on mine at some point this year.
I watched several of your boat reviews and have to tell you that its is not helpful at all when everything is awesome,great etc. The mast is broken at the base,you did not mention it with one word. I really don't expect you to put up all the negative sides,but for people who are really interested in a boat it would be veeery helpful to point out the pros AND cons realistically,what makes sailing easy/hard,what makes living on the boat nice/difficult,etcetc. It actually takes more effort and research from your side also,but I think you will learn also a lot on the way. To make a video of 15mins only to comment how cool everything is doesnt help a lot also for the person who wants to sell it. Pointing out why a dark hull is a problem or if a hatch can be put up easy would be a great comment for example. Obviously its an old boat,and there are many things not so great,and the reason why the owner likes to sell it . Just my opinion
May simply be avoiding sea sickness, they seem to like sitting in a car more than on boats which, I assume may further delay gaining much sailing knowledge.
33 foot, price is in the description, changes so you generally don't put that in the video. Likely at that price it will be available for several years. www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/prout-quest-33-3651463/
Me like millions of others watch youtube on roku, there is no comments. To digg up a device and quit watching what i am just to see the price not worth it. So often i dont bother watching any more.
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I'm slowing going through your whole series. Out of all the channels, I appreciate your (both of you) approach to everything. I've been bit by the sailing bug and now I'm hooked. I started sailing recreationally at a local harbor renting Rhodes 19's for a couple hours at a time. Now I'm on the lookout for my first buy. I met someone just yesterday to see his Cal 20 and he immediately invited me out to sail. I love the community and familiarity of other sailors.
I have been searching for good Prout videos for yearsssss. On my bday one finally gets uploaded! Thanks for the tour. I’m definitely getting a Prout!
This guy is not a yacht broker but he very well could be working for one.
I left you tube for over 6 months while travelling. I return and he's right there still preaching the same words.
This looks like a Prout Quest 33. This is the same model as we circumnavigated from '92 to '96. It needs lots of cosmetic work, but it is a solid, safe, good boat. It is well outfitted, but also well used. Ours was build in 1986 and when we circumnavigated this was before multihulls were popular - we were considered pretty crazy by some. However, these are nothing like the modern cats and are heavily built, under canvassed and sail more like a monohull (5 knot passages when laden down) than today's boats. This may be okay, considering you are coming from a monohull in the first place. Certainly a good candidate for electric as they are lighter and can go faster, although there is limited space for batteries. Happy to discuss pros/cons further.
probably the only post out of #277 with actual real world experience, do these actually slam as much as everyone on here says they do? I can’t imagine on a downwind tropical circumnavigation that these boats would slam as much as everyone claims.
Prout,boats were made with thick fiberglass hulls that's why so many of them are still around slow strong and safe, the dates layout proves it
I've been watching your videos for a week now and came across this one, good job solo very professional.
I had a Prout Snowgoose 37, which was the next boat up from the Quest.
Really good, safe, and fast cruiser.
We used to sail it at an average speed of 10 knots.
Very good in heravy seas, unlike modern cats, it has narrow hulls, which are better for performance and stability, but not so good for accomodation.
Great boat, I would have another in a heartbeat.
How do you achieve 10 knots ON AVERAGE in a boat that has a theoretical hull speed of only ~7.8 knots and a hull shape that looks like 100% displacement-type only, i.e. almost no planing capability at all? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to discredit the Snowgoose 37, there is a lot to like about them (except for maybe regarding bridgedeck clearance / slamming and I'm not so sure about capsize-safety with low-weight narrow-beam cats - that's two aspects I'd NOT like in heavy seas), I think it's quite exciting if the 10 knots are actually true, but are you sure about that, I mean even ON AVERAGE? What was the top speed? I'm also curious how many knots it did under engine power (in calm water and zero wind conditions) relative to the engine's kW output at full throttle. Do you have these numbers? This would be very interesting in order to get an idea of the hull efficiency, because judging efficiency based on wind has too many factors (speed, gusts, direction, sail-plan, sails condition...). On another note: although I like slender hulls a lot for performance, why do you think that they increase stability? The narrower they are (including the canoe stern), the less reserve buoyancy they can offer when they plunge down a wave, therefore I'd assume that especially longitudinal stability (pitch) is lower.
That's value for money
It would make a comfortable bahama and Carib cruiser. Solid fiberglass hull construction built with British almost 100% waterproof BS1088 marine plywood joinery. Reliable performance , not set the world on fire but it's called cruising for a reason. Thanks for showing us these boats that our out there!
For the people who want galley up........get your wallets out and spend really money , for $50k with some cosmetic work you have a very cheap way to get a lot of room on the water , the one thing not obvious is the single engine I think ( unless it’s hydraulic drive to 2 props) better for island that tight marina usage.
Cheers Warren
thanks for absolutely nothing.
That seems like a damn good deal. It is so well equipped with water maker and heater. I don't normally like a down galley but ironically on a smaller cat like this, you weren't in such a deep hole and isolated from the main cabin. Really nice icebox too. The little tech room in rear sponson is awesome and could be very versatile with a drop down bunk added and maybe even some simple enclosures around water maker equipment (fully removable for maintenance, obviously). You could literally have 3 sleeping quarters on a 33 ft. boat and still keep the ability to store or use for tech. The only thing that scares me is the rigging which might make me offer slightly less for a contingency for replacement before any serious cruise. Thanks for reviewing!
hello, with synthetic rigging you may get away from spending a fortune on the rigging upgrade. I agree that the setup is quite nice. Only thing I noticed is that the helm area seems quite small.
@@tiborkiss9186 I was actually figuring dyneema. I agree the helm is a little small but it isn't bad considering it is only 33 ft. So that is all you get without compromising the saloon and berths.
I love mono hulls and cats. In that size category and this particular cat, I don’t see the advantage. I enjoy your boat tours. Thanks guys! 👍👍👍
Man you need to jump all over this one! What a great boat. Cosmetics are the fun things to update
The layout is very similar to the 34' Gemini catamaran. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
There's your boat. Perfect for the three of you. One thing I have to say, you show boats that people are trying to sell. Sometimes you have a tendency to say an engine needs replacing or rebuilding just because it has some rust on it or just doesn't look that nice. When it comes to engines, in absolutely no way does the exterior looks of engine reflect the condition. Before you even give an opinion of the engine, you should be ready to tell your viewers the hours on the engine. I've been a mechanic for 35 years. I've seen diesel engines that looked completely wasted start up and run for over 200,000 miles or thousands of hours. That engine could very likely outlive the boat. Diesel engine last far longer than gas engine. Even longer on sail boats. Other than that, nice viewing and nice boat.
Perhaps it should be described as neglected, interested people need to have a serious look at this engine before buying the boat its not been cared for which may mean low hours but less attention and regular maintenance.
@@brianlockyer4389 Yes anything other than suggesting the engine might need replacing because of rust. I would suggest the seller rust protect the engine before showing it. Service records are a must before suggesting anything.
Prouts were one of the 1st proper production cruising catamarans. Just about all Prout Quest 33s were sailed around the globe. They were also designed for going through locks, hence a little narrow, but could fit in a small keeler berth in any marina. Designed and built in UK, Prouts suit colder countries very well, hence cosy feel inside. Its has lots of other benefits over modern French cats. If you want to bigger a Prout Escale 39 will take you anywhere and no need to upgrade in the future.
The big bar at front of the boat between the keels. That's not on any other Quest 33 I've seen. Anyone know what it is?
Very pretty boat nice lines sits nice in the water
For the price and what you get...That isn't bad at all....I don't think it will depreciate that much more...so even if you paid $40 to $42,000...You will not be losing money....It would be worth investing money into it....For the money....it would give a person a lot of freedom and a platform to a bigger and better boat....PS You two are appreciated....Thanks!
Lovely Prout with a Solid Shout too sun bath, in . Well structured, cat with great provenance and performance.Go for it don't delay .but buy an electronic device too see how thick THE hull, is AND check for Dampness or delaminaceion..!!
The boat looks cool for a small cat. DEFINITELY sign me up for the equipment room.
Step one...dry dock and a full survey! If the hull is sound, rigging is good, mechanical is working or repairable, this boat is a gem. Cleaning, Gelcoat repair, Bright Work, New Lines, Service all moving parts and the engine, $10K Maximum. If I had the money, I would fly down and buy it, on condition of a survey results being favorable of course.
Yup, a very nice candidate indeed. One thing that should be mentioned is that even if some of the gear isn't up to snuff, the facilities have already been provided. Replacing something like the water maker would be nothing of the issue it would be from the ground up. Through hulls, filters, piping, power etc are already there. That accounts for a LOT in my book regardless of the operational condition of the existing unit.
I started watching because the DIY Boat And Other DIY Projects I enjoyed the Energy of you Both and continued watching right through to this Video am Sad at the direction this Channel has appeared to have taken with walking through other peoples boats instead of working on Freebie ???? I have a Custom 32 footer that I've been Refitting myself as well, I do wish you both well and Hope that happiness and health with wealth follow you wherever You both Go. I have Subbed but not sure Ill hang around if Looking at other peoples boats is what this has Become and Stays. Sorry If I have unintentionally Offended this was not my intention Good luck In your refit and with Freebie.
Sailing Lady Africa has a "smallish" cat - it looks like it originally had a single inboard engine.
Ricky (captain) got a deal and was able to install two aft, inboard engines (one in each hull) - which is great for redundancy - I think they are fairly compact too ... they just started sailing (from the vlog timeline).
5:41
Lady Africa is 36.5 ft Cat, not so small. It had a Isuzu diesel marine motor in it about 150hp. He has installed two 27hp motors in the hulls.
Thank you for this! Based on the age of this catamaran, I calculated the age of production cats when I plan on retiring. I have high hopes!!!!
I have two and half years to go. There are really ready to go monos for the price. You watch bums on a boat? Well my channel would be bum on a boat. Lol
@@shadowofpain8144 I will give them a look, thanks!
I normally don't like catamarans but I kinda like the layout of this boat.
Sailing Lady Africa is similar - maybe a bit bigger and they upgraded to twin inboard engines (though they are running under the aft cabins (IIRC) - after about 2 years of work.
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Nice rig! Just us older people would find that from the main berth to the head is a long trek.
It has a composting toilet putting an extra pail on the other side would be easy
Or any one would find it annoying. I'd take that fwd stb'd compartment and put a "half head" in it.
It definately need a refit.
Yeah, very well set up. All the bells and whistles . Nice , affordable little cat
Have a look at the boat I have, a Gemini 105M or the 105MC. They are 34' with the same basic layout but having seen this I would say they feel a bit roomier. The forward berth on the 105 is definitely a queen.
Was wondering how it compared to the 105mc because of the price point which is about 2x the asking price of this one.
Late reply, BUT the Gemini cat is horrible in rougher seas, even 2 foot waves and swells they pound and propose like mad!,
I know, my friend has 1, and I would never again go out in that boat unless the seas were flat calm
I really like some of the Prout designs
I'm not a boat expert, but i think the price is on the high side . I think it could be a really good boat , fixed up , and if the survey came back good with no major structure issues. Just my opinion. Good vid
Will this CAT still be available, I loved it ❤️, I want to buy it 🙌😉👍🤪✌️✌️
I love it. Great channel
Neat little boat really could be a lot of fun
Thanks for the review. Those little Prouts are quite capable. Yes, many have crossed oceans. If you want a little more boat, check out the Proust Snow Goose 37. Very similar but bigger, but still in the affordable category. Yes they are quite old. This one was indeed very well equipped. AC and Spectra WM. They are unusual in that the mast is quite far aft. This gives a small hi-aspect ratio main and a large fore triangle with staysail. But it works! The Snow Goose in particular have made many many distant voyages. They really ushered in the cruising catamarans popular now. On the engine. Don’t let that spook you. The location exposes it to some salt moisture which give it a very worn look but it may be internally just fine. They are great engines.
Another great boat tour. Well done! Can I ask you to do a tour of a 1972 Camper & Nicholson 48 located in Marathon? Who knows you might have already seen it. Just trying to save the cost of a return flight from Seattle if she is not worth it. Thanks. Keep the tours coming. Learning lots!
Already done! #113
@@LearningtheLines Haha cant believe I didnt remember that from just 2 weeks ago! Ive seen all your tours sofar. Now this one twice!
I like that, perfect for solo or 3 peep family as a 1st boat....
I was wondering why you don't start selling boat be a broker and do your repair sight and cruising a little bit?
ig value items need inspecting. Engine and rigging. Great sized cabin. Would be great when de-clutterd and brightened up.
A nice little coastal cruiser a little dated but she looks ready to go
This is basically the same cat that sailing lady Africa channel has been renovating for the past year 👍.
Lady Africa renovated a Dean Cat
@@jedi201 aren't Dean product and wharrem the same design? Ergo basically the same ?
@@abiabs8038 Dean Cats are full blown Cats bought out by Exquisite yachts. Exquisite bought the Dean design.
@@jedi201 ohhhkaayyy fered they are soooo completely different I don't know what made me think they look so fucking similar that it was worth letting someone on here that might buy it to go have a look at something that is so different they might get some idea of what they would be facing. Stop being a pedantic prick.
I've been following your videos and enjoying them , I would like look at some hurricane damaged catarmarans, but I don't know how tho go about finding these damaged boats, do you know any places that these boat are or stored so I could go and look at them. I guess I must be asking the wrong questions or to the wrong people because no one has answered me. With all the hurricanes that hit the gulf this season there must be some insurance company or salvage companies around that have boats. If you could would you please give me a place to start.. I sure would appreaciate.. I hope to talk to you at the Maimi boat show and a big thank you if you could give me any information on finding a boat..
I love the price, I'm okay with a small boat but I want a catamaran because there cooler then mono hulls in my opinion, think 2 people could fit in there comfortably with room for others to join sometimes? Also I'm literally a kid so I know nothing about catamarans or sailboat in general but would this be freshwater one or saltwater
You guys seem to know a lot about catamarans I’m interested if you guys have a ‘buyers’ guide tips and tricks when buying what to look for what to avoid what to have double checked etc?!? 😻
It's amazing how port and starboard can look bigger inside than outside...imagine sailing in this on the Norfolk broads UK 😁😁😁
My next planned voyage with a 17' trailer sailer.
It is a fairly well equipped small catamaran. It is in relatively good condition; in any case, it seems cared for and usable. There would be work on it and development needed, but there is imagination in it.
The realistic price is $ 33,000- $ 34,000.
Nice review, it is a nice catamaran, as you say needs some updating and freshening up. Prout made very solid boats, not the styling for everyone but could be updated and has all the gear. Andy UK
Prout has a good reputation, but I'd hold out for their 37 footer. This boat is pretty heavy for it's size and will be more of a motorsailor.
Boats are cool. I'm saving for one.
Depends what your sailing plan is.
Do we know what your plan is ? Sorry I'm discovering this channel now and not sure whether you want to be coastal liveaboards or worldnavigators ?
Thanks for posting and sharing this great episode. Really sounds and looks great from your tour.
Ready to go now for folks who are campers....scrape and light paint on interior and clean...
What type of boat is this?!? I love it
I'm amazed at the number of ignorant armchair opinions here. Prout began building cats in the very early 60's, and stayed with the same design philosophies to the end.
These cats are not fast; 10 knot cruising is NOT a reasonable expectation. Getting where you want to go IS. Tough, and manageable in weather bad enough to scare crews on boats twice as long and four times the displacement, more Prouts have circumnavigated than any other. There isn't a blue water destination that hasn't seen a thirty-something proud in the last fifty years. They are the most significant chapter in multihull sailing.
These solid fiberglass vessels were over built simply because we didn't know back then how tough they would be. I saw a Prout 50 plow into a concrete bulkhead at a knot or two, and the damage was limited to the concrete, and a bit of paint on one bow.
Prout had a good reason for moving the mast aft; it reduced the size of the mainsail, making it easier to manage, and provided for a larger genoa that benefited from not hanging behind a big draggy mast with lots of paraphernalia attached.
That single two-speed winch is an adequate solution, but I would look into mounting a smaller winch on the bulkhead under the mast for halyards and reefing. You can't beat the Yanmar 3G30 for reliable power and economy. They can look pretty salty on the outside and run like a sweet little sewing machine on the outside. They are a no-brainer if they need an overhaul. Just do it.
My guess is that this cat is well priced at under $50K. Being a Button Freak, I would accept any excuse to update the electronics. First item would be a Standard Horizon Matrix AIS/GPS (GX2200) radio, Then a Simrad Radar and Multi Function Display. That would make my day.
I am an elderly Blue Water Cruiser and past owner of five large cats, the last was a Chris White Atlantic 42.
Sandy Daugherty Great rundown on this Prout and the Atlantic 42 is a beauty. I have always wondered if Prouts with their small main and mast so far aft can sail and tack on main alone. Do you know about that?
Chris white designed some great cruising cats .
I'm not much of a cat fan, but I like this one. Seems just the right size.
Nice cat but I would pay a little extra for a Prout Snowgoose 37 if I was going down that path.
Love repetition, and redundancy .... I would buy this boat and be on my way to Mexico.....
very cool layout, I like this one a lot
I love the videos, and y’all are doing a great job reviewing the boats. Any chance you could start carrying a tape measure to show head room?
Nice Overview! Looks like a very decent boat to me!
Are you guys from Miami or going for projects in Miami?
Thank you for the tour. It would help if you gave the length and headroom.
If you read the start it says 33 feet.
love this, lots of potential too but i like what the previous owners have done too
I would move salon foward up to the windows and why the half wall by oven would like autopilot contrl by window also.
Just seems lot of wasted space. If money problem could live with it just fine. I suspect engine rebuild rigging and sails are needed. When you want to say go to south pacific.
Hey guys. Just saying hello. Funny how TH-cam is showing us all these sailing videos of small Cats now that we own a small Catamaran. Annette loving calls "our kitten". We dont know your story yet. Just enjoying the walk through on this Cat.
haven't been following for a few month's now did they go full on boat broker? or are they back to Freebee?
Both of you are exposed to enough pretty but pricey boats, and have enough experience to know the value of systems needed for offshore cruising! This has the makings for a dream boat but both of you have to realize that it will take some effort, and you'll probably pass other prettier boats.
So how much space will the 3 of you need, that's the task....before paying for a thorough survey.
Nice. I just bought one. ⛵️
Cool Hope you Enjoy , They look great
Question: If I had $50-70K could I buy a turnkey sailboat in the 30-40' LOA?
How high is the rig , will it go in I.C.W. ?
Really nice band equipped catamaran...
the boat is insulated ?
and what is the price ?
I'm surprised by the volume below. I do wonder if based on the salon height if there might be a lot of wave slapping under the hull while under way.
Probably, The bridge deck (hull) even has a vee shape to it which won't help with slap, but will keep it from acting like a brake in waves. Every design has its compromises.
Clickumentary Yes, lots of bridgedeck pounding which means that big queen berth would be miserable underway.
Propane tank next to a running compressor, in a space which I can only guess isn't vented... That doesn’t sound like a good idea.
@@SkeezixIL that is neither safe nor sufficient. With propane heavier than air, venting needs to be from the bottom and open to the outside. Also needs a dedicated locker, not one shared with a compressor which is nearly certainly not ignition protected.
really nice boat still for sale its a shame there is no email address...
Great video as always. The issue with electric would be having enough solar panels and batteries and that would mean extensive study of how long it takes to recharge while sitting under a stationary front etc.
You can get a motor/generator with fully adjustable prop. In anything over about 10-12 Knots of breeze you should be able to charge at a good rate for a sacrifice of half a knot of speed. If you only use the motor for manoeuvring or safety then a second hand Tesla battery would probably suffice.
Slocum, Voss et al managed with no motor at all, but we’ve all got scheduling “imperatives” in our busy lives.
offer 28k and grab this one! The Prout will take you anywhere and you wont spend a fortune on it and will get to where you want to go! Just add a second dometic and your equipment room is great! Repower with electric and some tesla batteries and you're all set!
I like this boat. A little work and she’d be perfect.
Help me out with something . Why does your skin look like plastic in the gopro footage? Is it a gopro setting or is it accomplished in your editing software ?
What happened to your sailing channel are you going to be working on your boat or sailing it???
Are y'all gonna make any more videos or all your videos just gonna be about boats for sale
I should be able to get my own boat by the year 2341
5k to fully repair her and bright work. Maybe 2k in parts and engine rebuild. So 50k all in and you are sailing a decent retirement couple cat.
Not bad right? I didn't think the engines looked all that rough tbh
@@Clickumentary yes. For 50k a 2person comfortable cat is a steal. That engine is a Yanmar so repairs should be minimal for a rebuild. The corrosion may be salt or old battery. Wouldnt know until you got stuck in her. Could do all the repairs, brightwork, and engine work for cheaper possibly. But if you are gonna be stuck on the hard for a few months why not upgrade and make her as pretty as possible.
More like 20k
@@EL90291 And hundreds of hours of labor. That's a good thing for some people. Sweat equity is more affordable from some more than others.
EL EL yeah, find another one for 20 grand like that. Dream on.
Always enjoy your videos. To me it's like buying a lottery ticket which allows you to dream of things that will not happen. And then reality sets in: I'm 78 years old and have a wife that doesn't want to move further from shore than you can throw a rock at. Just at well, it was fun to pretend.
Older cats are more like submarines in the inside, modern are more like ĺofts
Modern cruising cats are bigger and heavier to allow that space and windows. The racing boats are still like subs or these days airplanes.
Yep, a bit dingy. Think for a few decades they were trying to re-create the interior of a sailing schooner. Seen a few old boats painted a light colour inside which is nice and looks bigger too.
Does the absence of your better half during the two look overs of catamarans you’ve done tell you anything?
seems small, but the camera doesn't do it justice. could a beginner sail this?
It wouldn't be a bad time builder for a newish sailor. It has modern nav, a diesel that looks like it runs, and a place to sleep. The propane system really needs to be redone or elininated entirely. Sail the poop out of it for a year or two and dump it at the end. Treat it like a rental.
No Randy???? I just love looking at her ;-)
The bridgedeck clearance on these boats is rather small. They tend to pound in seas higher than 5 feet.
Ed Wiser Less than that.
@@joeblow1942 You are right. lol. I was trying to be kind. The accepted formula is if wave height exceeds twice the vertical bridge deck clearance you are going to pound. It can be made worse if there is excessive weight in the forward half of the boat like anchors and chain. Of course, the more weight aboard, the lower the vertical clearance. As originally designed, built, and equipped, she probably started pounding in 3 foot seas.
Ed Wiser I asked Kurt Hughes at the Miami boat show years ago what is the ideal bridgedeck clearance and he laughed and said “TWENTY FEET!”
@@joeblow1942 lol. I attended a seminar on catamaran design several years ago at IBEX. I still have a few notes:
1. Vertical bridge clearance should be minimum of 5.6% of LOA.
2. Vertical clearance x 2 = height of waves at which slamming starts
the inside looks real similar to the Sailing Lady Africa boat looks like on the inside before they did they gutted it.
Lady Africa is a Dean Oceanliner, they are very similar to the Prouts of the day. More so the Elite and the Escale. The Quest 33 CS was just an extended Quest 31. The Event 34 is nicer. Best sailing performance of all is the 35 and 37. The 35 is a very different boat though. Maybe I'll do a walkthrough on mine at some point this year.
Looks a lot like the one the couple from lady Africa remodeled check it out???
I watched several of your boat reviews and have to tell you that its is not helpful at all when everything is awesome,great etc.
The mast is broken at the base,you did not mention it with one word.
I really don't expect you to put up all the negative sides,but for people who are really interested in a boat it would be veeery helpful to point out the pros AND cons realistically,what makes sailing easy/hard,what makes living on the boat nice/difficult,etcetc.
It actually takes more effort and research from your side also,but I think you will learn also a lot on the way.
To make a video of 15mins only to comment how cool everything is doesnt help a lot also for the person who wants to sell it.
Pointing out why a dark hull is a problem or if a hatch can be put up easy would be a great comment for example.
Obviously its an old boat,and there are many things not so great,and the reason why the owner likes to sell it .
Just my opinion
Old but well outfitted to where it very practical. I'd do a remodel to swap the head and the workroom.
The same basic layout as the gemini, except with a in my opinion a better helm position.
do you two ever sail? Never going to find out how a boat works unless you get away from the dock.
May simply be avoiding sea sickness, they seem to like sitting in a car more than on boats which, I assume may further delay gaining much sailing knowledge.
hi, maybe i miss it but what do you mean by "small"? in feet? beam? draft? price? capt. juan
Most who watch all these sailing channels are thinking bluewater modern cats seem 50 plus feet or the layout makes them look like.
33 foot, price is in the description, changes so you generally don't put that in the video. Likely at that price it will be available for several years.
www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/prout-quest-33-3651463/
Very cool!
I'm in the videos are nice to let people know the boats out there for sale
Me like millions of others watch youtube on roku, there is no comments. To digg up a device and quit watching what i am just to see the price not worth it. So often i dont bother watching any more.
Very similar to Sailing Lady Africa.
Quite a bit smaller
If the owner cannot be bothered to put his junk away do you really think he has done any maintenance?