We Were WRONG About This Boat! [Full In-Depth Tour] Learning the Lines
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- We're seriously considering the Seawind 1160 Lite for our next boat because of the long list of positives this catamaran has to offer. Here's just a few of the most important ones to us:
Size - We don't want a huge cat.
Seaworthiness - Plenty of Seawinds have circumnavigated.
Performance - The Seawind 1160 lite is designed to sail well first and foremost.
Livability - She's got a lot of accommodation and room for a 38' boat.
Price point - At a $310,000 base price for a new boat, the Seawind 1160 lite is the most affordable performance cruising catamaran in existence.
All of that combined with the fact that we can set one up with electric outboards, daggerboards, and lifting rudders means we think that the Seawind 1160 Lite might be the best boat possible for our budget and lifestyle.
What do you think?
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Based on a couple years cruising the South Pacific on a Searunner 37' trimaran, I always felt the boat was a bit on the "small" side in heavy weather. Sailing across tradewind belts (American Samoa to Tonga, for instance) makes one feel very vulnerable to capsize. For what it's worth, I think multihulls should be at least 40' and probably wouldn't cruise on one myself unless it was 44 or larger. A big 46' Piver trimaran capsized (with all 5 hands lost) while crossing from New Zealand to Fiji back in the mid 1970s. Size does matter.
Sailing Ruby Rose have bought the new Seawind 1370 (I think) 45foot version. They have been working with Seawind on the design. I really like this boat, the 1160. The fact it has 3 fridges 2 top load and 1 " bar" type fridge is really great but I would make at least one of the another freezer. I also love the owners side of the cat. The bedroom is in the right place and the fact you can get to both sides of the bed to make it is a big plus. The one minus I can see is all the electrical stuff under the seats in the "lounge" dinning area, taking up valuable storage spots, maybe they could be put someplace else. Great cat , thanks for the tour.
Interested in cruising speeds with the outboards (1 vs 2, speed at what rpm, fuel per hour, etc?)
Nice cat 🤙
I have to say I was a bit surprised at your original views on the Seawind. Dollar for dollar this is the best cruising cat on the market. Well made, well designed, more performance than all but the Outremere's and other racing pedigree million dollar+ cruisers at a much lower price point. And the new Ruby Rose II will intrduce the 1300 series Seawinds, even more closely aligned to cruising needs. I'm buying one within the next 5 years and setting off!
I agree with you for the Seawind up to the 1260, nothing comparable to them on the market if you look for something different from a condomaran at that price range. For the 1300 series a possible competitor is the smallest Balance, both for now exist only on paper, but they should both have very good performance and building quality, at a similar price tag.
The Balance has the very clever helm, while i personally have some doubt on the Seawind choice as at night you have to shut down the lights in the central cabin to see trough its windows, and has dagger boards so can probably go better upwind, but the Seawind has some other clever perks to balance it.
I think that the choice between the 1370 and the 442 is more a matter of personal taste, but in each case you can not go wrong (luckily i don't have to chose as i can not afford them :) ...).
@Konstantin Ridaya Daggerboards should make for better performance, particularly upwind, but if you don't want them, they're optional.... :)
I absolutely love that the fridge is not sitting on the sole. I absolutely hate having to bend over to dig around in a mini-fridge. Makes so much more sense to put it where you can better view and utilize. Brilliant small touch. Nice boat.
Seawind is getting a big thumbs up from me! And getting great reviews. They’re on the list for Cats when we set sail in a few days years time. Well appointed, quality build without the massive price tag. What is there not to love. Thanks guys.
When I went to the boat show in Annapolis and looked around, the only production catamaran that came across as a boaters boat was the Seawind. The rest just reminded me of cheap Winnebago's attempting to attract the female half of the buying decision.
Ruby Rose 2 is worth a look. They just picked a Seawind as their best pick. Though I think that for long term you'll find the bigger boats more suited to live aboard.
A perfect theme song, "I got it right and I've got it wrong, I learned my lesson by hanging on.." Words of wisdom. Great that you can come back and say you got it wrong and why. I can appreciate that.
Electric outboard lift-able engines and batteries are now ALMOST the best viable option... (difference between Retired and no real time limits, - and the all too brief holiday charter)... A boom for cruising is not my choice... I prefer the Hitch Hiker rig, of flat cut genoa, roller reefed to each bow and dual sheets on each genoa set well aft... A small self tacking blade, used when the wind gets up & both genoa are fully furled (when +20 knots over the deck)... Tack downwind, (never wing on wing), and also upwind, setting for best VMG... This is my choice, for live aboard in retirement: simple, fast and easy...
People no longer drive model Ts with the first gear pedal to push to get up a hill. Make sure the arm rests on your chair are secure.
More and more impressed with SeaWind, every video I see. 8:57 - Excellent grill location, as well. Electric sail drives are an obvious and necessary upgrade.
Roger Wilco - Not at all. You still have solar, and regenerative capabilities, as well as a backup diesel gen set. The gen set is key. Fountain-Pajot has a configuration that allows 40+ knots (distance, of course) of electric motoring. It all depends on battery capacity.
@@RogerWilco1 I guess all those tall ships that sailed around the world in the early days must have had a lot of problems with passage making then.
It's a SAIL boat...
@@goulash75 They HAD a lot of problems and the ocean depths are filled with them.
Apparently electric is an option from Seawind! Way to go Seawind.
@@C_R_O_M________ Yup, lots of people went to sea and were just never heard from again. I'm currently reading Slocum... He may have sailed around the world without an engine, but he also got towed in and out of quite a few anchorages along the way. 😗 And then later disappeared at sea.
I'm glad you two got to reprise your review. BTW Brandy is looking radiant. I'm happy for both of you.
Love seawinds myself. the are for sailors by sailors, and not for the inexperienced buyers that seem to control the cat market. they are no frills and all thrills.
Yeah!!! Good to see you. Lots of room for building out your power system. For me, a water maker is crucial, as that is a survival item, never mind convenience. Having more solar capacity, including LiFePO
4 batteries, makes a water maker possible. If its raining, you can collect water. If its not raining, you can make water. Okay, I'm Captain Obvious. :-)
Hi Jordan! Great video (but a little odd seeing it 3rd person)!! I just wanted to clarify a few things: the saloon unit is a refrigerator - we use it for beverages and snacks. The in-counter storage in the galley is the freezer. The breaker box in the port side settee is a primary DC breaker. The electronics forward/port side are AIS gear, and then an on-board computer and networking gear. It's also worth pointing out that the hot water is on-demand propane. Electric options can also be installed.
Thanks for the clarification Bob!
@@LearningtheLines When you said I'd let you know, I felt obligated :D
Love the Galley Down. Wish they offered a 1600 with a galley down! I’m not a fan of the gasoline, would prefer diesel and a generator but that’s just me. You missed highlighting the awesome opening salon windows forward!
Seawind are on fire at the moment!
They are!
It must be "climate change" again.
Thanks for keeping an open mind. The more I see, the more I'm really starting to like Seawinds as a current production cat. Very sensible and practical designs, decent performance, great visibility, etc. They're simple. but have really well thought out design and details.
Very cruising oriented, there's tons of storage even on the 1160.
The 1370 is going to sell very well. Being quite a bit larger, it has galley up, which I think makes a lot of sense as a social space with the salon as great room. On land, many people gather around food in the kitchen.
P.S. Seawind has an electric outboard option on the 1160.
In my opinion is that a lack of experience on the first video was why you were so critical of this cat, until you have spend some time on a certain vessel it’s hard to judge any boat, I’ve been sailing for a living and recreational over 30 yrs and still far from knowing it all once you get some sea time under ur belt you’ll learn to know what you like and don’t like and what works for you doesn’t mean it works for the next person
Can you do a review on a 1260? I'd love to see your opinion on it.
What happened to your sailboat??
All I have ever seen in months is you two on other boats but not yours??
👍 you do good reviews and tour videos. Hope you two can get back on the water in the future. We know you can live abroad with a baby and sail the world.
Free trip? Oh... This boat is actually awesome. What a joke.
Galley down is so much more advantageous.
It certainly makes sense in a cat this size. It's much easier to understand once you've been aboard a few days.
And with probably twice the space than a smaller up galley. An up galley would make the saloon settee smaller also.
It often does on a boat this size but galley up gets better above 38'
I will be looking forward to the video under sail. I have always thought this boat seemed to be well layered out, practical and it looks like it would be maintainable. Very under rated aspect for folks that want to sail rather than maintain a boat in paradise. I do like the idea of the electric outboards. Could you explore that possibility some.
You should update information about your channel on various social media and patreon. DIY was something you were doing, channels focus has changed nice to let newer viewers know about it.
You’re right about the build quality, overall design and execution. I’m not so sure about you’re near obsession with going electric, adding weight to a ‘performance’ cat is simply a bad idea. Good Tube 👍
The weight of going electric and a traditional diesel motor and diesel tank is about the same if you go with lithium batteries. It can actually be less of you design it right.
Good video. I notice the boat has both lower and upper stays. I have always felt it was a little precarious to use a single stay run aft on each side - the tricycle arrangement. One wire parts and you loose the rig. I encountered a couple aboard a dismasted catamaran in Quepos Costa Rica about 5 years ago. They lost their rig about 600 miles west of Galapagos. Fortunately, they had enough fuel aboard to limp back to Golfito, Costa Rica using one engine. They had the three-wire standing rigging and it showed the dangers inherent in it. Their insurance company covered the whole thing and brought down a rigging crew and loaded shipping container from Lauderdale to rerig the boat, but it all took a few months to arrange and complete. I will rig forestay, baby stay, two shrouds to each side, and probably a backstay or two on my Gemini.
What do you two own? It’s helpful to know what your point of reference is...
And, why are you doing reviews?
If you watch their other videos you will discover they had a boat before, two actuall (monohulls), gave up trying to restore the last one and gave it away. Now they are saving up to buy an newer boat.
Wow. Never saw propane tanks mounted outside like that. A great idea. Though I hate the whole gas "thing". I just don't do anything other than a grill outside. Im retired from the Fire Department. There are just images of RV's and Boats explosions I can't get out of my head. I sleep better off without them on a boat. Great video you two and I like this boat more the second time around.
I've never sailed on a cat so I can't wait for that video. I wonder how badly it would have to sail to keep me from considering a cat as the cockpit alone is a huge selling point to me (considering the 90% at anchor theory).
Here's a hint: she sails faster and flatter than any mono I've ever sailed.
Keep up the good work... i imagine after this, you will be doing more of these bare boat charters =)
Strange people say this boat is small as Project Atticus is a 30' monohull live aboard. I'm looking at a 32' Macwester myself, so a 38' catamaran seems enormous. Looks like a nice one: functional, tidy. All these things are a compromise, just had to match your requirements to work. Nice review and good luck with the little one 👍
"We have no financial interest in the sale of this boat. WE ARE NOT YACHT EXPERTS. We are not yacht brokers. This boat tour is intended for entertainment purposes only". If you solicit this at the beginning of the video why redact it in the video?
This tours that you do normally are great but just scratch the surface. You really need to spend some time on a boat to give it a real evaluation. Yes, I like this boat too. Have sailed a few of them they are good quality.
BUY IT... BUY IT... BUY IT!!!
love Seawinds. Practical, value for money & they sail well.. Hard to beat.
What is the water tank size? Im usually iffy about outboards for cats but that seems pretty well done and cash friendly at 3500$ for a brand new motor.
175 gallon water tank. We've done a total of seven passages back and forth from Maryland and Abacos/Key West and the outboards have never let us down or left us feeling under powered, and that includes having to motor some days when there was no wind.
Surprised she takes so much horse power for her auxiliaries. But then, her hulls are quite voluminous. The entire design is quite cruising centric, not speed performance oriented. The hull's fluid dynamic surfaces above the water line no doubt aids somewhat in it's upwind performance however, it's really hard to get two Clorox bottles with a deck across em to turn any heads upwind in any CRUISING class cat really. The outboard auxiliaries I now believe have enough positive attributes in the entire aggregate these days to rate some proper respect along with their in-board counterparts. That seems to be a LOT more room below without two inboard engines. 310K base price is considerable, but for a guy who fawns over the new S&S 34s, not over the top for the amount of boat you are getting with this one. This is a LOT of boat for the $$$ once you shed your inhibitions about things like outboard engines and limited bow netting. We all know what we like to see in a boat. But then you go out cruising and find that what may please your eyes frustrates a good cruising experience in living practice unless you have HUGE $$$$ for a larger boat.
I am glad you came back over this vessel again. I saw a LOT more positive things this time around. But then baby is coming :) So 310K base line and the Air Conditioning and Honda 2000I is extra. Got it!
Other than a slight weight penalty in opting for larger HP outboard auxiliaries, in general larger engines run slower produce more thrust on less fuel than smaller engines run at 3/4 throttle. When I fished 25 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico in a 17 foot Whaler Montauk I don't think I ever said "Gosh I wish I had a smaller outboard on this boat" So what if I had to carry two 6 gallon tanks with hose assemblies in addition to the main 18 gallon SS tank. I went out to the spots with the 1st mate, a mixed breed hound & we limited on several kinds of fish & we came home BUT I carried an EPIRB just in case, to do otherwise would be Foolish.
Cool boat......except for the faulty compass. @1:15 - Boca Grande Key is West of Key West :)
Lol oops, It's a wonder that we found our way back home! 🤣
Congratulations on ur baby to come!! You 2 will be fine parents luv's! So this boat yes hearing u say u like the kitchen down made all the difference.... I still feel a lil lost when I see all that boat 2 seemingly small outboards... do u feel that's enough hp. for the job? Idk newbie hoping to get back on the water an stay there. But at moment on lock down stuck on the hard...so goal 1
Hold on wait a minute Someone actually let you too take they're boat...... This is surprising to me....
Wow- I sure can relate! We were wrong about our initial impression of this fabulous vessel too! We had a last-minute opportunity to do a bareboat charter of it in Morten Bay (Queensland, Australia) for ten days, and this was the only vessel available at the time, so I signed up somewhat begrudgingly. It turned out to be a blast to sail and very functional too, even with a crew of four adults and three children. As a life-long sailor, and long-term live-aboard with a Yachtmasters, I had a lot of pre-conceived expectations that proved to be just prejudicial. Indeed it was crying out to be converted to electric outboards, although the petrol engines weren't as bad as expected, and lifting them out of the water often gave a bonus knot or so! The galley below was massive, and we did a lot of the prep work on the saloon table, and most of the cooking on the aft deck BBQ too. Here's an action video of the trip;
vimeo.com/316529361
However, just after that, I heard about the next version, the 1190 sport, and it looks even better again...
Great video, thanks for posting.
Thanks for your sharing. I've been secretly fawning over the 1160 lite.
Boats are a series of compromises. Glad you were able to spend more time aboard and were not to proud to adjust your opinions.
Thanks for review and can wait for the sailing one. Please get some numbers (read speed, wind speed and angle). Don't feel too bad about your opinion change. I actually agree with your first impression as I had the same. Very small boat, galley down, low bridge deck, helm in the cockpit where you need to look through the bridge (saloon). It is a weird and unusual design. The more I learn about them, the more I appreciate their qualities. I learn that the visibility through the bridge is great because they use glass not plastic. Big opening window makes for great ventilation. High construction quality. Amazing use of the small space. The galley down offer a lot more counter space than any galley up in a 38 feet catamaran and has a nice view with a big opening window. Ok, it is on my list of potential buy now. it is still small with no large storage for bulky item like inflating paddle board or Kayak, diving tank and compressor. Compare to a Lagoon 380, it probably sail better but it is cramp. I would get the diesel version. Something, you need to motor for more then 24 hours.
I was curious what your heights are? I can see that it looks just barely tall enough to stand in below deck. I am asking as a 6' 6" person who always has to think about head space in what I buy.
The island bed cabin is actually very cramped for adults.
You would suffer, same as I would.
What type of electric outboards would you consider for this cat? How much solar would you need and what type of range do you think you'd get. I've seen discussions about other electric motors, but never outboards. I'm wondering how they compare. Thanks!
One thing no-one mentions regarding cats, is that when a couple need a little time apart, there’s separate hulls to sulk in. Which might save a marriage, LOL
You folks need to temper you constant HARPING about having an ELECTRIC sailboat. You took Freebee & attempted to make a SILK PURSE OUT OF A SOW's EAR instead of making Freebee sound for sailing & sailing her far & wide. The Seawind 1160 LTE is a very well engineered small form factor catamaran. I believe the stock model comes with twin 9.9HP 4 stroke outboards & NO AIR CONDITIONER. Electric outboards are fine for "Gentleman sailing" where you take a well performing small catamaran & FESTOON it with High efficiency 24 volt solar panels( at least 2kw) wired in series/parallel fed to high efficiency MPPT solar charge controllers that feed a massive 4 - 6KWH LiFePO4 bank(s) that are also supported by a 4KW diesel Genset & with all this added weight you have reduced an efficient sailing catamaran to a SLUG. The Polynesians sailed thousands of miles across the Pacific Ocean in modified catamarans without a single solar panel or LiFEPO4 battery but they did use solar & polar fixes for navigation.
robert frederick exactly. Aren’t the auxiliaries not for only getting in and out of harbours and moorings?
I'm sure the polynesians would have loved to have an engin when there was no wind and they were just drifting and waiting...
@@donaldvanvliet9039 Donald , were you on this earth when the polynesians sailed trans-Pacific? Well its sad that you do not take the time to research what the Pacific Rim inhabitants do/did when occasionally "be-calmed". They employed a very complicated motive device consisting of a flat or curved carved piece that was about 2 - 3 feet long X 1 foot wide X 1 - 2 inches thick; this piece was lashed to a straight or slightly curved pole(or driftwood piece). This complicated device allowed the craft's members to propel the craft forward( or backward) albeit slowly. Now the Einstein Polynesians made these devices smaller & lashed them them to a ring shaped device that was moved by alternating foot/leg strokes to propel the craft forward. This advanced technology was lost to the ages until the Industrial Revolution "discovered/invented" the paddle wheel.
I would agree if you are going to have diesel Gen, but that really is not needed unless you must have an air con. All of that does not add any more weight then the diesel engines, tanks and diesel. Fudge not even counting the diesel. So not sure what you are on about adding weight and making it a slug. Most people will have solar and battery bank regardless what engine they have. They would just have more for electric engine, but that would be less weight and space then what it replaced. Unless you are going to go more minimalistic without decent battery bank and solar, your entire speel about having all that which adds weight is just the norm for most people. But I will never get replacing diesel ... only to have diesel used anyway with a Gen. I also do think it would be silly to put outboards on it though.
OH and FYI, Seawinds have all that solar power as part of package and specifically designed with that in mind so as to not overload with their diesel engines. A whole 2kw at least of electric PLUS still the diesel engines. So again not sure what all you are on about. Nor those with such packages are slugs either, we have plenty of them around here. It is designed as somewhat performance boat. They come with 2 20HP Honda outboards for 1600 Lite and only 250W solar panels, or 30HP Yanmar inboards which is for the 1600 Deluxe as part of that optional upgrade and few other larger things like tanks, batteries, solar panels etc. And yes the A/C is optional, like it is with most sailboats unless you are buying really expensive boat. Also the Deluxe comes with 1Kw of solar as standard, with option of more.
@@peterbodifee Auxiliary engines have to be "sized" for the prevailing conditions the vessel is expected to encounter. The Seawind 1160 Lite seen here has been outfitted with optional 25 HP 4 stroke auxiliary on each side versus the stock 9.9HP.( I stand corrected, according to an advert the standard is two 20HP 4 strokes) I would have to look at the consumption charts but you could probably run ONE 25 HP engine & get further on less fuel than what TWO 9.9HP consume. The standard 52 gallon Gasoline fuel tank realistically limits auxillary use to entering & exiting ports through uncertain channels. This is where "ELECTRIC OUTBOARDS" used as auxilliaries are VERY IFFY except under ideal conditions of less than 5 knot wind & less than 1 foot seas, unlimited visibility, etc, etc. etc. If I had the coin to order a Seawind 1160 Lite I would consult with the company to see if it could be outfitted with a single Yanmar Dtorque TurboDiesel 50HP outboard positioned either Center Line at the stern or in a motor well slightly offset from CL(Center Line). Marine engineers know how to do this to position the "thrust vector" correctly for maneuvering. This way you would carry a less combustible fuel that gives more range, I do not know the BTU output comparison.
In your crushing review could you cover the hobby horsing effect on this boat. The biggest issue I have heard about small cats is this effect. The weight of a cat and short length has some negative effects. How about this more performance design.
Your anxieties about access to the cabin top are unfounded if you use standard practice of wearing life line harnesses and use them in sketchy weather or on solo watch. A trailing lifeline when under passage should always be paid out for safety purposes in case the harness line fails.
This cat is very well laid out and finished. My only quibbles are the lack of a washing machine for longer passages, I didn't see a wind turbine for Aux charging, and I would change out the molded in sheet pockets for open weave bags for each sheet. As is the lines could tangle. The Propane tank hung aft is a potential failure in rough or following sea conditions for mine.
Cheers Eric
Hi in your opinion being on the boat if you have sailed it how is it operating it? I’m thinking about buying one but I am concern about the helm station because it seems like you don’t have much of a POV to look through a window looking through the living room to drive forward seems like a giant blind spot. What is your opinion on it? I would love to know thank you.
Would you consider buying brand new and outfitting as you see fit, or looking for the right deal on a used one that may not be set up exactly as you want??
With the way the catamaran market is now, it makes more sense to buy new and outfit it exactly the way we want it. New boats are very close in price point to gently used, preowned boats. I think it has to do with the fact that it takes 1-2 years to build a new boat and some people dont want to wait that time period so they buy used.
Great detailed review - as always! Jordan, any luck spear fishing with Soulianis? :) Been "shopping" for a cat for a while now and Seawind is definitely on the short list. That new 1370 looks amazing, but I'm sure out of my price range. Been a 1260 fan from the start, but the more I look at the 1160/1190 the more impressed I am by the overall design compromises. Many thanks to Bob for offering you the charter - can't wait until we see it in action!
Thanks! The 1260 is nice but personally I think the 1160 is a better value.
I missed the part about Soulianis... Let's just say we've fed them fresh seafood a few times now!
I realize neither of you are really experienced at boat architecture; however, you should know enough to let your first impressions remain. I think running rigging that is route down the middle of a side deck isn’t the nest design.9
Total novice here but very quickly falling in love with cats. One query I have that is probably very obvious to the initiated: why two helm positions?
How much they pay you guys or what can deal you make with them ......😋😂😅😅😂😅😅
maybe a good reminder to be more careful with what is shared as reviews,its always subjective to likes/dislikes,and its also difficult to have a "neutral" way to review a boat never used yourself.
So, if it was repowered, new controls, lines hidden better. This would be a nice boat. Good to see you will change your mind for a pay and play. Lol, lost my respect.
Awesome Boat 👍 and awesome that you got to use it 😎 your future child can watch this 20 years for now and say "Hey; I'm in the video too" LOL
If you converted this to e-propulsion with dual e-outboards, how much battery storage do you think you would need and how much solar?
As a newbie to sailing I just recently found out about Seawind and this more affordable catmaran. Does the offboard motors make it better than internal diesels for maintenance if intended for coastal cruising?
At 4:07 you said there are 2 trampolines. Are these real trampolines, like kids could jump up and down and play on them? Or are they just called that but you're not supposed to jump on them?
I KIND OF LIKE THE INTERIOR LAYOUT BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO BUILDS A CATAMARAN WITHOUT ANY TRAMPOLINES TRAMPOLINES TO ME OR JUST THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE AND MANY OF THE BIGGER BOATS SEEM TO HAVE NO THEY'RE JUST LONGER HAULS WITH MORE TRAMPOLINE SPACE THIS BOAT SEEMS TO MAKE GOOD USE OF ITS INTERIOR.
ALSO I WONDER IF ANYBODY BUILDS A BOAT THAT ARE LIKE SAY THE HELM IS INSIDE OR MAYBE IN A LITTLE RAISED AREA WITH THE MAST ON TOP OF IT AND AGAIN NO DAM TRAMPOLINES . I HAVE SO MUCH SUN DAMAGE TO MY SKIN I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BOAT THAT IS COMPLETELY INSIDE OR COULD BE SAILED FROM INSIDE .
DAVID GRENIS LIVING IN BOULDER COLORADO USA .
So what does this say about your qualification to review boats?
They do boat tours, not reviews.
Netpackrat when you give opinions- that’s a review.
That boat wants a central tether anchor on the coach roof with a tether just long enough to hook on before you climb up.
I agree. It wouldn't be hard to install safety tethers.
Ty for the video. I really like this one . The only question is where I can put the solar panels?
My dads fishing boat is docked next to this boat I know the owners we give them fish sometimes it’s crazy to stumble across this video and seeing this boat
Between You guys, Ruby Rose, Zatara, and ”don't buy a couch" Uma, I want to go sailing! Cutting the cord to a home seems intimidating! What to do?
Interesting. My wife and I live on a Corsair 3600 (it’s a cat) and there are a lot of similarities. There are a lot of differences too. The cockpit is huge as is the saloon relative to the Corsair but the tramp, deck, transoms, etc are all sacrifices for the interior. Ours is a light boat at 5ton dry and we probably have too much weight in it as is. With that extra room I could really horde some stuff! I hope they build them with the same care our Corsair was constructed with. I love our boat more every time I dig into it. She’s 27 years old and nothing creaky even offshore in relatively rough seas. No stress cracks no blisters, nothing. Vacuum bagging is wonderful, the parts most never see are still nice. No glass splinters here.
Seawind bought Corsair Marine if it's the same Corsair.
The Seawind 1600 is based on the Corsair 51 www.yachtworld.com/boats/2012/corsair-51-2655325/)
Try to get a deal ....like """" Vagabond """"???????
7:26..bruh.. it's a cat.. would you like an elevator?
Whens the baby coming? Can't hide it forever.
Really throwing the dice, eh?
@@crybllrd how is this throwing the dice they even said she is pregnant in the video
Amazing how a "charter" trip changes someone's opinion...
What is the actual reason/s you changed your opinion about this boat?
My wife and I are considering retiring on a trawler, now we have to consider a sea wind cat
Have you thought about using a mil.surplus parachute from the anchor winch. Very high above the bow to catch more stable wind. For downwind sailing ? I have been trying to get someone to try this.
There is already such a system that uses a kite sail and it's own computer controlled winch.
How was the crow?
Brilliant. Have you bought the boat?
What a change in attitude, wonder why that happened? 🤔
I should come sailing with you guys sometime I love sailing
Would this be a good bahama boat?
Did not see a watermaker
Best bang for the buck! No doubt.
Thanks for another thorough boat tour. Could you please try to incorporate some headroom figures in main areas in following episodes? It's a topic that not a lot of people cover in their reviews even though it is an issue of interest with many taller individuals. I am certainly one. P.S. When I wrote this comment I haven't watched the video to the end to notice that you did mention headroom this time. Thanks again, it seems like a very nice well-designed boat with ample space, especially for its size.
Watch the Ruby Rose tube channel. They went round pretty much every cat and have picked a Seawind.
@@snafufubar I've watched them but I don't recall them getting a lot more specific on headroom figures. The Seawind they ordered is in the 700K $ range way above my budget.
if you are not experts what is the point
back when you picked on 1160 /1260 in 2019 , I just guessed you were mono hull journeyman ( which you are ) . Nice you might be seeing the "light" . (a mono hull VS Cat) , is apples VS oranges comparison . For the price , quality and livability this would be hard to beat . average $100 a day ( that's everything insurance , repair , food , fuel , VISA's etc ) for world cursing . Few mono's can say that when new .............I think pregnancy changed some views
I watch t now a couple of your video's bud darn why you never take a better look at the navigation system like witch kind of VHF, AIS, plotters and Ecdis there is on board.
Turn them on and show the viewer what is special on it.
Second of all witch kind of generator and main engine's, and what kind of sails there has the boat equip t with.
Every one know that a boat has plenty storage , bud the brand and type of the sail winches etc etc .
Its nice to know what kind of boats are for sale bud a little more detail in the more important makes a buyer it a little easy er.
I hoop you will improve your video's with my feedback, good luck.
Concerning the lines. They could run them over the roof? Gives an emergency hand hold. Or even along the side since it doesn’t bother the windows or step to the roof. Both removes trip hazard. .02 cents.
Running them over the coach roof wouldn't work because the helms are down, not up. Running them along the side of the cabin would cut into the window area and since they wouldn't be flat on deck would tend to tangle if you gave them slack. I've thought about this a lot, lol I really think they're in the best place possible without any huge boat design changes.
Everyone is missing the point by saying the lines are a trip hazard. This boat is setup so ALL lines run back to the cockpit, meaning you can do everything from the cockpit. So you shouldnt have to go forward unless somthing goes wrong.
From the angle that you used to show the propane tank for the grill, it looked like it would be very exposed to a following sea. The tank even looked a bit corroded to me. I also didn't see a life raft?
I'm glad you had the opportunity to take a closer look at this boat and realized that it's okay to change your minds about some of the things you thought before. I think for its size the layout is well thought out and for a cat, the price seems much more doable. I also like the idea of going with electric motors since the smell of diesel turns my stomach!
Don't worry about the folks calling you sell-outs since they obviously don't listen or read very well and get most of their exercise jumping to conclusions. Personally, I've only ever sailed monohulls but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions about what I THINK I'd want in a catamaran, subject to change if I got the chance to sail one and found out some things were not what I expected to like/dislike. It's a bit like admiring a bikini on someone, then when you try it on yourself you realize it just doesn't fit the way you'd hoped! LOL That's why they have fitting rooms.
I really liked this little boat and it's the first Cat that is this small that I've liked. I really like galley down though and especially for this size and even a little larger. Would have been great if they could have fit a small forward facing Nav station in the salon and I'd be willing to give up a little of the settee to get one. Being as I'd use it as a personally family boat I wouldn't need that big of a settee and could live with just the part around the table as you have it positioned. That would leave the room needed to add the Nav station. Only thing missing is a washer/dryer and honestly it's really not that important. Great tour thanks guys...
Thanks, great review. 😎👍🏻
I just bought a 1983 SeaWind 24 catamaran in very good condition. The delivery sail from Tampa bay to Okeechobee city was a great 3 days. It's apparent to me why this company is still in business.
These 1160 Lites are such great boats. You can tell a lot of thought has gone into them, from someone with experience with catamarans. Not much wasted space, good lines, but first and foremost a sailing vessel and not a floating apartment.
Seawind has been building boats 4 over 30 years & winning awards as well. But it's funny how ppl change their minds... champagne wants with koolaid money🤔
Looks like there is enough room for a washer/dryer combo. That down galley was nice, it's just food down and food up all the time (no vomit jokes please). Needs a dumbwaiter.
Meh I knew you were wrong when you first pre-viewed it, but everyone is entitled their own opinion. They are very well known decent boats, bit performance oriented yet still comfortable enough for cruising and living on. Good mixture. Not top end quality, but still very nice that should last and same with craftsmanship. They are well thought out too, although no boat is perfect. Overall a pretty good lil boat that will sail well for decent price.
A good boat to live on but to sail around the world. You might need maintenance. I can see a lot of stuff in there look dated and it's 2017 boat lol. The owner must really used this boat many times before put it for sale. 250k is a good deal.
So were would you put a crib? LOL
Definitely a couple things I can see I'm not nuts about but all in all it seems okay I guess. I know I would definitely want a table and seating outside... It's way too hot in the Bahamas and Caribbean to be hanging out in the saloon.. just a thought. Also, the diesel version seems like it would be way better then having a couple outboards but hey, what do I know lol