Botswana and Namibia are only protecting it's domestic farmers and worker citizens to get jobs in farms, this can also prevent mass migration to SA in search of jobs🤷🏾♂️
As a Namibian I see nothing wrong with this. Namibia and Botswana are tired of corrupt South Africa and waiting 4 weeks due to South African port delays and we are also tired of relying on South Africa for food and other goods. We want to setup our own farms and industries. That is why Namibia and Botswana is strengthening ties so that both countries can reduce their reliance on South Africa. After Namibia upgrades their ports, Botswana and Namibia's other neighbors can use Namibian ports which are much more efficient than South African ports.
I really don’t understand the noises about some fruits from these guys. SA exports millions of other products to both Botswana and Namibia. Quit whining about some fruits, food security is very critical for any country and it’s the sole responsibility of each country to ensure its food security.
@@therambler3713 we have underground water and a small population! when our population exceeds our supply, we will talk to you! the problem with you is that you don't want to empower the poor! if you can empower poor black communities, you will have a clear market for your citrus products!
@@therambler3713Kak praat nie....Then SA will help them out....that will be part of the deal...nowhere in sub Sahara people are starving !!! Domkop !!!
@@truth-Hurts375 Ah, the troll again? Yeah, no one, except that lady in the Eastern Cape that took the lives of her two daughters and herself because, you know, hungry...
It's going to be job losses because farms that used to get revenue from trade with those countries will no longer get the revenue, and the agribusinesses won't be able to pay workers, until SA finds someone to buy oir agri produce
More bans are looming Mr Steernhuisen. Remember we already banned bottle waters there incase you don't know. Since that small business in Botswana is improving, batswana are making profit in farming. I just wish the president of Botswana won't listen to this
SA benefits the most in this trades and they will lose alot if the reciprocate. This countries are just protecting their farmers in terms of citrus fruits since your retailers cant stop importing. You cant be operating in namibia and still export from sa what you can easily get here.
Botswana is constantly hurting the national interest of South Africa and the region at large. It is consistently hostile for example it invites the provocative U.S military base in the region it cheats on trade agreements it is increasingly appears to be a fake friend..South Africa wake up and smell the coffee ☕
SA only care about other countries when it suits them . Namibia and Botswana 👌👌👌 please make sure you bann as many things from SA as possible Leaotho is also going to bann Water😂
Lesotho is in South Africa and cannot go anywhere without South African approval. Even when their dams are full they'll have to discharge them through South Africa. Water is the one of the few major commodity Lesotho is exporting to South Africa
cosatu killed hyundai plant in Botswana and we watched thousands of jobs go down the drain. Now i see where south african riches come from, poor neighbours....they behave like the USA
That Peugoet plant failed because SA put measures in place to protect their automobile industry... they want bully Namibia and Botswana to submit to them economically
COVID 19 taught Botswana and Namibia a lesson during COVID-19 it was not easy for this fruits and veggies to cross borders because of COVID 19 rule's,so this forced this two nations to start motivating locals to invest in horticulture to avoid the problem they experience during COVID-19 in future,I don't see the problem here because we are neighbors.
It was all fun and games when RSA imposed a restriction on exports during covid leaving us to beg your country, this big brother mentality to protect rsa business interests and expecting us to bend over is pure bullcrap
With due respect, every leader should think of his people first. For one importing what can be produced locally is the exportation of jobs and money. A country that just consumes without production is bound to run into trouble. Unemployment is high in Botswana and the ban has helped a lot of batswana who have ventured into farming. So really, if the ban is lifted, then don't complain or put up resident and work permit regulations for them. Fruit and veggies ban is a miniscule part on the trade that lopsidedly favours South Africa.
@@josephshonga178 I think it's more than that, hence I say we should look for other markets instead of Botswana. That Masisi guy got something against SA. We should look for alternatives
Botswana imports billions worth of products from South Africa not just citrus fruits and vegetables. South Africa benefits a lot and will continue to benefit. They just want to support and strengthen their people and build local economy.Surely that is understandable. There are only 2.3 million people in Botswana.
They cant start acting like US grabbing all market and distribution. Its now monopoly . Fair trade folks . Depends on just exports is not healthy for all countries. Local produce help improve access to food for people at reasonable prices. There is international markets and other channels like AGOA and BRICKS. Goods and and people can be controlled isn't what we are all saying , to create access for people ( profits margins )
@@pangolinkk they should then be given the opportunity to grow there own then,they depend on importation all the times. You only import what you can’t produce in your country dew to climate conditions,like for example,some parts of the continent you can’t grow rice tea coffee etc
@@pangolinkk ANC officials are not worried but white farmers are worried .They are afraid black South Africans will realise that they can farm copying from Botswana.
South Africa refused to buy cars from us understandable they assemble their own. We dont want things we produce our own citrus and other veggies they must also understand.
Why is South Africa with a population of 60 million crying over a market of 5 million people (Namibia and Botswana combined)? But are fast to abandon them when it gets a little tough.(E.g., Botswana and Namibia nearly starved during Covid)
Biosecurity : In Botswana we have what's called cattle cut lines that divides the country into districts and thus effectively restrict animal(mostly cloven hooved ) such as buffallo which are known to host the FMD virus.Thus we can have an FMD outbreak in Ngamiland and not have it in Gantsi district which is adjacent thanks to animal prohibition movement by these fences.Consequently, some parts of the Botswana where there is no FMD,bufallos aren't allowed to be there,whether just roaming or on private game farms. South Africa and other countries do not have these dividing fences,hence you can find a buffalo in NorthWest,Limpopo or even LowVeld .This therefore locks out SA out of EU beef market. Vegetable Ban : here is an except fromSACU website ; " The following were the key features of the SACU Agreement of 1969: d)a provision for infant industry protection to meet competition from other producers or manufacturers in the Customs Union, which would encourage diversifying growth through industrialisation.
Theres numbers of dumkops like @user-pi7cw9mh9n , who arent aware that Botswana has the highest purchasing power parity in the SADC region (real GDP -PPP per capita) and Nambia comes number 3 after SA. So its a concern for SA farmers and government. The subsidies and incentives to cushion and sustain ur agri industry from the ban, will burn a hole in their government's pocket to make up the loss in revenue but they brought it on themselves during Covid now its tables turned
Its simple white farmers want to monopolies Southern Africa market for every product causing massive poverty in the region.Then South africans complain when foreigners go to SA because they are shut out of opportunities in their countries.
It’s 2024 not 1974 genius. If South Africa is to do that you will feel the pain. SA exports millions of other products to both Botswana and Namibia, what’s the noise with the fruits?
It will be great for boarders to shut and we see which economy wil go down fast and who will cry even more but i can guarantee you, its not going to be Botswana or Namibia but Rsa crushes to zero 😂😂😂
@@Tinker8531as much as your brothers and sisters are burdening our copper belt ,coming as experts expat only to ,drive sumo trucks,work as assistants,clean camps using visitors visas.come to kamoa,kitwe,kimpushi,mumi and see.call yo brothers here so that they add to that 35% unemployment rate 8.5 million pple not working,some countries population is far less.keep blaming till u realize you done and dusted,you getting copper,cobalt from zambia,DRC,gas from mozambique,diamonds and platinum and it pgm groups from zim.lithium from there,
This is wrong... you can't choose for us our leadership... We voted for him... Why are people trying to interfere in SA s affairs? If you Africans hate because we have accepted to live with white people... You are very racist and xenophobic than we are
boo hoo our meat is going to the EU and US yours is not, pull up your socks if we are so incompetent why are you crying about putting down our independence
Namibia is more democratic and better managed than politically chaotic South Africa. For own information Namibia is doing well in all African barometers because it is found in the top ten ranking. By the way Namibia will never be your province again. NEVER!!!!
Botswana and Namibia are only protecting it's domestic farmers and worker citizens to get jobs in farms, this can also prevent mass migration to SA in search of jobs🤷🏾♂️
Well said comrade
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100%true
They should buy nothing from South Africa because south Africa have become a bully in Africa there is no humanity in this land
Great point
As a Namibian I see nothing wrong with this. Namibia and Botswana are tired of corrupt South Africa and waiting 4 weeks due to South African port delays and we are also tired of relying on South Africa for food and other goods. We want to setup our own farms and industries. That is why Namibia and Botswana is strengthening ties so that both countries can reduce their reliance on South Africa. After Namibia upgrades their ports, Botswana and Namibia's other neighbors can use Namibian ports which are much more efficient than South African ports.
I really don’t understand the noises about some fruits from these guys. SA exports millions of other products to both Botswana and Namibia. Quit whining about some fruits, food security is very critical for any country and it’s the sole responsibility of each country to ensure its food security.
South Africa should respond in kind.
As a Namibian we are striving for agricultural emancipation 🇳🇦😮💨
Botswana has such products, why should we buy from SA?
Food security. One day when there is a drought you will crying because you only had one source of food.
@@therambler3713 we have underground water and a small population! when our population exceeds our supply, we will talk to you! the problem with you is that you don't want to empower the poor! if you can empower poor black communities, you will have a clear market for your citrus products!
@@therambler3713We have underground water!
@@therambler3713Kak praat nie....Then SA will help them out....that will be part of the deal...nowhere in sub Sahara people are starving !!!
Domkop !!!
@@truth-Hurts375 Ah, the troll again? Yeah, no one, except that lady in the Eastern Cape that took the lives of her two daughters and herself because, you know, hungry...
We South Africans support them, they have to put their nation first.. Won't be job losses for us because farmers don't employ South Africans.
It's going to be job losses because farms that used to get revenue from trade with those countries will no longer get the revenue, and the agribusinesses won't be able to pay workers, until SA finds someone to buy oir agri produce
Track drivers, Tax authorities, IT infrastructure all hire SA employees. export products is not just about pulling a orange from a tree.
@@stephensphomolotsebe5952 by workers you mean illegal foreigners? We dont care.
More bans are looming Mr Steernhuisen.
Remember we already banned bottle waters there incase you don't know.
Since that small business in Botswana is improving, batswana are making profit in farming.
I just wish the president of Botswana won't listen to this
O tseela gore we're a province of theirs
@@rouxbring7327
He thinks just because he is white the engagement is gonna be easy
He won't....
That ban is gonna go until 2029
There needs to a coalition of Black farmers across the 3 countries to build each other up and ensure food security and sufficiency.
The problem is that there is certain race dnt want black people to farm.They ban builds up famers in Botswana and Namibia.
SA benefits the most in this trades and they will lose alot if the reciprocate. This countries are just protecting their farmers in terms of citrus fruits since your retailers cant stop importing. You cant be operating in namibia and still export from sa what you can easily get here.
Botswana is constantly hurting the national interest of South Africa and the region at large.
It is consistently hostile for example it invites the provocative U.S military base in the region it cheats on trade agreements it is increasingly appears to be a fake friend..South Africa wake up and smell the coffee ☕
SA only care about other countries when it suits them . Namibia and Botswana 👌👌👌 please make sure you bann as many things from SA as possible Leaotho is also going to bann Water😂
Don't forget Lesotho is in South Africa...
Lesotho is in South Africa and cannot go anywhere without South African approval. Even when their dams are full they'll have to discharge them through South Africa. Water is the one of the few major commodity Lesotho is exporting to South Africa
1:55 enlightening, seeing as SA will not import Peugeots from Namibia… I think it’s time to talk.
cosatu killed hyundai plant in Botswana and we watched thousands of jobs go down the drain. Now i see where south african riches come from, poor neighbours....they behave like the USA
That Peugoet plant failed because SA put measures in place to protect their automobile industry... they want bully Namibia and Botswana to submit to them economically
Minister, go and read the latest version of SACUA, if your metric certificate can help you.
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Don't judge a persone look at the problems!!
So what you're implying here is that you only learn how to read after matric? 😂
I think he got a mAtric certificate?
yet he is more educated than all the anc supporters combined. go figure
COVID 19 taught Botswana and Namibia a lesson during COVID-19 it was not easy for this fruits and veggies to cross borders because of COVID 19 rule's,so this forced this two nations to start motivating locals to invest in horticulture to avoid the problem they experience during COVID-19 in future,I don't see the problem here because we are neighbors.
Settle your disease issues before you come knocking on our doors Mr matrix. Thank you ✌🏽
Like Botswana and Namibia doesn't have disease problems.
Well said !!!
It was all fun and games when RSA imposed a restriction on exports during covid leaving us to beg your country, this big brother mentality to protect rsa business interests and expecting us to bend over is pure bullcrap
Grow your own horticulture Botswana and Namibia, if you need extra you can call Zimbabwe
We must retaliate we should not let this slide
We appreciate sir🙏🏾
Can the Minister deal with the foot and mouth bans that don’t allow SA farmers to export meat products for goodness sake
Cf latest protocols John Steenhuisen signed in China on this very matter
Look for other markets. Its clear Masisi don't want to trade with us, watch the video of him explaining his decision
With due respect, every leader should think of his people first. For one importing what can be produced locally is the exportation of jobs and money. A country that just consumes without production is bound to run into trouble. Unemployment is high in Botswana and the ban has helped a lot of batswana who have ventured into farming.
So really, if the ban is lifted, then don't complain or put up resident and work permit regulations for them. Fruit and veggies ban is a miniscule part on the trade that lopsidedly favours South Africa.
@@josephshonga178 I think it's more than that, hence I say we should look for other markets instead of Botswana. That Masisi guy got something against SA. We should look for alternatives
Botswana imports billions worth of products from South Africa not just citrus fruits and vegetables. South Africa benefits a lot and will continue to benefit. They just want to support and strengthen their people and build local economy.Surely that is understandable. There are only 2.3 million people in Botswana.
They all need each other this countries Like SA and younger sisters 🇳🇦 and Botswana 🇧🇼
Food security is critical. You can’t have a nation that can’t feed itself.
Their country yes they can, SADC countries should stay away from the Bully
SA will realize why it's needs the African market
Yes definitely. They have been thinking they can do it on their own
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I thought SA can can survive in Isolation
They cant start acting like US grabbing all market and distribution. Its now monopoly . Fair trade folks . Depends on just exports is not healthy for all countries. Local produce help improve access to food for people at reasonable prices. There is international markets and other channels like AGOA and BRICKS. Goods and and people can be controlled isn't what we are all saying , to create access for people ( profits margins )
Consumption in Botswana 🇧🇼 is not much,2ml population can’t consume much
They do consume much that's why your officials are concerned.
@@pangolinkk they should then be given the opportunity to grow there own then,they depend on importation all the times.
You only import what you can’t produce in your country dew to climate conditions,like for example,some parts of the continent you can’t grow rice tea coffee etc
@@pangolinkkit's SA want to enforce lift of the ban don't twist your fate
Then why are your leaders making noises about fruits imports ban then?
@@pangolinkk ANC officials are not worried but white farmers are worried .They are afraid black South Africans will realise that they can farm copying from Botswana.
Get the man a tissue cause he is blocked up 🤧
Please speed up those talks, we need real fruits
Don't have a problem here, we just need to react in kind and we keep it moving.
South Africa refused to buy cars from us understandable they assemble their own. We dont want things we produce our own citrus and other veggies they must also understand.
Fix South Africa problems first before you jump to the other countries , your home need help in such a way you can imagine.
Boy
Remember this incident when you fail and have food shortage. Don't scream "one Africa".
My dogter en my skoonseun is boere in Namibia Is n mooi land beter as suidafrika
For now, wait a few years..... I see you have the same issue SA has.
Wanneer trek jy.
@@Shawn-ts4jwwhich issues you mean your Foreigner Problem?
@Tinker8531 Speak English not pieces of European spare parts languages. Namibia will never be Afrikanerdom.
Why is South Africa with a population of 60 million crying over a market of 5 million people (Namibia and Botswana combined)? But are fast to abandon them when it gets a little tough.(E.g., Botswana and Namibia nearly starved during Covid)
Because them more prosper
Botswana and Namibia should send DA to meet with their local farmers and tell them to their face that they intend to steal their market from them.
Biosecurity : In Botswana we have what's called cattle cut lines that divides the country into districts and thus effectively restrict animal(mostly cloven hooved ) such as buffallo which are known to host the FMD virus.Thus we can have an FMD outbreak in Ngamiland and not have it in Gantsi district which is adjacent thanks to animal prohibition movement by these fences.Consequently, some parts of the Botswana where there is no FMD,bufallos aren't allowed to be there,whether just roaming or on private game farms. South Africa and other countries do not have these dividing fences,hence you can find a buffalo in NorthWest,Limpopo or even LowVeld .This therefore locks out SA out of EU beef market.
Vegetable Ban :
here is an except fromSACU website ;
"
The following were the key features of the SACU Agreement of 1969:
d)a provision for infant industry protection to meet competition from other producers or manufacturers in the Customs Union, which would encourage diversifying growth through industrialisation.
Food security. One day when there is a drought they will crying because they only had one source of food. They need to do trade with South Africa.
South africa is a bread basket off africa.work out difference .mends ways . An grow......
I hope dudula dom kops are taking note...but wait hold on..I dont think they have a clue of what's being talked about here and the impact
Theres numbers of dumkops like @user-pi7cw9mh9n , who arent aware that Botswana has the highest purchasing power parity in the SADC region (real GDP -PPP per capita) and Nambia comes number 3 after SA. So its a concern for SA farmers and government. The subsidies and incentives to cushion and sustain ur agri industry from the ban, will burn a hole in their government's pocket to make up the loss in revenue but they brought it on themselves during Covid now its tables turned
Its simple white farmers want to monopolies Southern Africa market for every product causing massive poverty in the region.Then South africans complain when foreigners go to SA because they are shut out of opportunities in their countries.
Not a Chance Steenhuisen forget about it.
If you can improve on hunger in South Africa and food prices aswell please
I guess we should stop farming our land and jump the border to SA and become zama zamas and open spaza shops
Give SA people food for free they are in poverty and have no jobs since they say their jobs have been looted
The results of manipulation of a rand the food prices is sky rocketed fix the rand to normalizes business
Why doesn't SA block them from exporting their meat and weaner calves to us?
Danie!
Relax, we needn't be bullies. Batswana are our brothers.
In a war with Namibia or Botswana, just cut off their borders to SA 😂… Big picture needs to be considered here, not just short term trade and profit
Leave them they are our better neighbours, see we not Xenophobic, we just tired of the others who burden our country.
It’s 2024 not 1974 genius. If South Africa is to do that you will feel the pain. SA exports millions of other products to both Botswana and Namibia, what’s the noise with the fruits?
It will be great for boarders to shut and we see which economy wil go down fast and who will cry even more but i can guarantee you, its not going to be Botswana or Namibia but Rsa crushes to zero 😂😂😂
@@Tinker8531as much as your brothers and sisters are burdening our copper belt ,coming as experts expat only to ,drive sumo trucks,work as assistants,clean camps using visitors visas.come to kamoa,kitwe,kimpushi,mumi and see.call yo brothers here so that they add to that 35% unemployment rate 8.5 million pple not working,some countries population is far less.keep blaming till u realize you done and dusted,you getting copper,cobalt from zambia,DRC,gas from mozambique,diamonds and platinum and it pgm groups from zim.lithium from there,
@@cliffordsetsile233already the one who is loosing is complaining about being banned .🇧🇼🤍🔥🔥🔥🇧🇼🇧🇼
remove Steenheisen then we will talk
This is wrong... you can't choose for us our leadership... We voted for him... Why are people trying to interfere in SA s affairs? If you Africans hate because we have accepted to live with white people... You are very racist and xenophobic than we are
Botswana and Namibia are so much better off, they must cut all ties with corrupt SA
True
There is no greater ally for Namibia than South Africa. Hopefully we can find an amicable solution that benefits everyone.
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DJ TRAITOR SBU WHO WOULD SELL HIS OWN COUNTRY
Everything in those countries come from SA
Exactly so why the constant noises about some fruits? Namibia and Botswana want to attain their own food security
Not everything.
After giving our land to your brothers you want to engage us devil
He's a doss lo
Botswana is just a desert
Better run country than ours. I envy them.
So why are you fighting so hard?
Then why did your anti-apartheid leaders ran and seemed refuge there. Would rather live in a peaceful desert than a crime-infested paradise
Yess ❗️The Land Of The San🇧🇼❤️
We win baba you like it or not
And you seem to represent a angry and a bitter nation .
A beautiful desert...I'm not from Botswana or South Africa, if I was to choose,I'll definitely go for Botswana...they seem more peaceful too
Namibia is an incompetent communist state, with Botswana we can talk 🇧🇼🇿🇦🇮🇱🇺🇸🇬🇧
May more Africans countries join and ban everything
boo hoo our meat is going to the EU and US yours is not, pull up your socks if we are so incompetent why are you crying about putting down our independence
Says a person who voted for apartheid to come back!
Wrong its a mixed economy..
Namibia is more democratic and better managed than politically chaotic South Africa. For own information Namibia is doing well in all African barometers because it is found in the top ten ranking. By the way Namibia will never be your province again. NEVER!!!!