@Barry Barry There would be far less accidental deaths if we didnt produce plants to feed billions upon billions of animals as well as billions of humans. let's grant animals their basic right not to have their throats slit, then maybe we can look at trying to improve farming practices.
@J P it's not a matter about removing suffering entirely, but minimizing it when possible. Most of the plants we grow we feed to animals, which means that even if we didn't kill the animals for meat, it would still take more dead animals to produce animal-based food than vegan food.
Sherri Amaral Hodge and i like to think that unicorns exist and i like to think that i am a mermaid fairy and i generally like to think :D i laughed at the farmer who just likes to imagine a pretty world to ignore the brutal reality
That farmer was at a loss to answer because he believes that what happens in farming is necessary because it's all legal, he doesn't see the horror and unnecessary cruelty in what he does, because he believes he is being righteous supplying food for us, he's not a bad person, just blinkered by the cultural, habitual acceptance of these practices, all this meat eating and production is a kind of unconscious addiction at this stage, thankfully there are farmers who have realized the cruelty they are taking part in and have changed their livelihoods, hopefully there will be many more in the future, thanks to people like Earthling Ed doing the work that is so badly needed, thank you Ed,
look i dont defend these farmers, but there is nothing wrong in eating animals and butchering them and so on! as long as they have good places to be and living good etc!
Hamza Younis but that's like saying it's okay to kill a Person because they had a good life. Wether the person wants to die or not your going to kill them even though they did nothing to deserve to die.
"I like to think that we do" lol classic bullshitter's line. Just phrasing it in a way so that he doesn't have to answer in terms of fact so no one can say he actually lied.
OHP77 you have toprovide the people who are forced to live off this industry a safe retreat if you want people to not support the industry. You can progress in all other ways but you got make sure everyone will be able to get out of the trap with no worry.
@@yoyoyo7189 Which seems logically akin to saying that (human) slavery abolitionists should have had a readymade economic 'escape hatch' readied to present to slaveowners, all tied up in a bow. I do feel that wealthy societies have a role in easing economic transitions, but I don't feel that placing that responsibility largely upon the shoulders of those pointing-out injustice, is the answer; that too-easily lazily leads-to: "Either hand me a giftwrapped solution, or be silent!" 'Perpetrators' ARE (primarily) responsible for changing their own unethical behavior.. Society, at best, can merely point-to, and hopefully help emplace, 'options'.. It shouldn't be made-easy for perpetrators of injustices to continue coddledly, blameshiftingly making excuses, or to repeatedly 'move the goalposts', while merely insincerely feigning regrets. If others accept 'responsibility', closedminded abusers will gladly LET them. There's, I hope you'd agree, a vast diff tween 'helping', and excusing/ enabling those who only pay lipservice, if even that, to mending their ways. Evading direct questions, as this farmer disingenuously does, is a huge red flag.
so this farmer tells you what to do, reverse psychology! its sad to see really! unnatural, unhealthy and being controlled by these fascist dictator bullies, shame bullies! its disgusting behavior!
DreamingTata VeganMama 🤣🤣 the guy is a hypocritical twit like every other vegan.. even water has live micro organisms in it so what gives you idiots the right to determine what life form is more inportant then others .
@@letsbehonest4221 "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."
So much for the farmer's "transparency".....Just a like a politician, he was full of BS when asked the question....if he's covering something up, you know it's not good....go vegan ! Great job by Ed, and thanks PBN....PBN it would be great if you could upload the entire discussion
Right on Vegan For The Animals - I'd love to see the whole clip and how he can possibly reply to that without looking like a crazy person or an outright liar.
That's because they can't justify the brutal killing and breeding of animals just for slaughter, they can't because then the majority of people that have some semblance of a conscience wouldn't eat the meat .
i vo I mean there are still organic farms that take care of their animals and use them for food and profit regardless if that's meat or milk. If people want to eat meat we should let them, it's their choice really. I eat meat but also drink vegan products due to trying to lose weight and because I love meat.
So this guys farm shows calf separation? Animal slaughter? Artificial insemination? The animal mutilation he mentioned etc? OR NOT? Or is it more come along and stroke the odd healthy cow in a nice green field? Probably closer the the later
Chris Homer Of course it's the latter. That's why he never answered the question but just repeated "I like to think we show the whole process" which means nothing. I like to think the whole world is vegan but it isn't yet :)
DaleAmigaMan Crazy isn’t it. Very pleased to see awareness growing at such a rate though. We need conversions like this out there to keep it moving, so very pleased to see this being aired! 😀
mark anderson; so would you like your mother, daughter, wife or just a stranger from cross the street to be artificially inceminated without even asking their approval? And then just robbing the baby away? Or would you prefer a fruit/plant to be artificially pollinated to produce nutrients for you consumption? Which one would you mutilate? There is no difference?
I like to think we don't need "Contains Hot Liquid" warnings on coffee cups but what I like to think doesn't always reflect reality, the farmer is full of shit, he is lying through his teeth and he does it with a pathetic little grin knowing he cannot be definitively proven wrong at that moment.
I hope to see Ed do more of these debates on TV, the farmers don't stand a chance against Ed's knowledge of factory farming. The farmers can't justify what they do because there is no justification for killing innocent animals. Thanks Ed for your continued efforts to educate people, so much respect for you. Thanks PBN for spreading the message ✌️
Paul Taylor I think that you may have been exposed to vegans that don't bother learning to cook and therefore become malnourished. But as for the vegan that have researched the sources of their nutrition, protein and fat, the main two components of meat, these can be easily substituted for plant based food (pulses, beans, lentils, nuts, oil as well as veg with higher protein levels). I understand your immediate assumption because some people refuse to learn to cook (two bags of crisps and a donut a day can be vegan but still not nutritious) whereas a vegan cook makes dishes BETTER because they know their shit
Greaser5500 Lmao how is it unlucky to love no longer supporting animal abuse? No longer eating dismembered corpses and secretions? And no longer destroying your health and the planet?
Kashi Sinha humans have been eating meat since the beginning of time. You aren’t a disgusting person for eating meat. Let me just clarify, I don’t care if you or anyone else is a vegan, it’s just myself and many others can agree that when a vegan tries to protest their opinions on others who constantly disagree or don’t care (even if it’s not aggressive) it is always annoying, especially if they don’t let up. Honestly though humans are the most dominant species on the planet for a reason, shit like this isn’t unethical, we have been farming animals just the same for ages, technology is just getting more advanced and efficient. It may seem more brutal, in actuality it’s just doing things faster. .
kubush Maybe when you’re on your deathbed, you’ll have realized the more compassionate choice was the right one, in everything- not just this. Good luck in life.
Bam! That was a hard hitting response from Ed. I'm fired up man, awesome job, keep up the great work PBN and Earthling Ed! The world is changing, we just have to keep waking people up.
More than likely. Many activists want to end animal suffering, but fail to compare farming to nature. Surely any animal would rather die a quick death and be used for human food than be caught alive by ANY of their natural predators.
I've just viewed the full item on BBC iPlayer and Ed was brilliant! It was reassuring that almost all of the people that emailed and had their comments read out were vegans.
No, just no. Each activist is great in their own right with what they bring to the vegan movement. Gary in my opinion was one of the greatest vegan activists in the world, of all time. Earthling Ed is a fucking amazing vegan activist as well, but there will never be another Gary.
It was learning about the separation of mama cow from her calf that turned me vegan. I lost 40 pounds, I have the cholesterol of a 20-year-old and I'm no longer diabetic. I'm preparing beautiful healthy meals and I have great energy. All because of learning the truth.
Greaser5550 so the people who don’t support murder and the mistreatment of animals are sad people? Huh I always thought we were fairly compassionate people.
+Travis Anthony the statistic is quoted from a vegan website that did a survey using 12000 vegans in America. Possibly the largest survey ever done on vegans and vegetarians. Here is the survey. You can also download the raw data of the actuall 12000 survey results. faunalytics.org/a-summary-of-faunalytics-study-of-current-and-former-vegetarians-and-vegans/ Do you have any of the links to any of the stats quoted in this video? I don't expect you do.
Travis Travis are you part of that 84%? At what percentage of vegans remaining vegan would you consider becoming a vegan? After all, it’s all about percentages not about our health, the environment or the animals. Go on and choose your tastebuds over empathy and compassion... hopefully one day you choose the latter. Peace.
+vegan Crue I'm not vegan or a former vegan. I have gone to restaurants and chosen the vegetarian option before because I knew it tastes good. If the vegan diet was more convenient and cheaper sure I would eat it...end of the day your just asking people to eat food. I think keep it simple...make the food tastier, more convenient and cheaper...people will eat it. This moral high ground will get vegans nowhere.
Ed has true empathy for all living sentient beings! He is a tireless activist who is in the forefront of this worldwide vegan movement! Thanks Plant Based News for spreading the word.👍
Paul Taylor, your question is merely a distraction to the real issue at hand.... the suffering of innocent beings. We do not need to eat dead animals to survive. As a matter of fact, we vegans can and do "thrive" on a plant-based diet. We humans have a choice. BTW, would you want to eat head lice, crabs, or fleas??? As you say they are "sentient beings" too. Are they something you would want to eat??? The bottom line is it's not realistic to think that one could live with head lice or crabs. It's just not practical thinking. We need to apply good old-fashioned common sense here. Just saying.
Paul Taylor, try telling that to Dr. Ellsworth Wareham who is 103 years old and has been vegan most of his life! Just Google him. Last I heard he was still mowing his grass with a push mower! As for B12 it's easy to get that in fortified cereals, nut milks, etc. Many carnivores are deficient in B12. Being vegan is better for our health, the animals, and the environment. Many scientific studies support it. Dr. Ellsworth Wareham is living proof of it.
Paul Taylor, whether you want to believe it or not Dr. Ellsworth Wareham is a known vegan. As I said, Just Google him. And as for nuts, I've met several carnivores who are nuts!
Paul Taylor I'm not even vegan but typically you're talking in absolutes with no balance at all. Nutritional yeast is one example of plant based b12 but many foods are fortified. As is meat funnily enough as it's not a direct source of b12 itself. Can you give me the other important micronutrients that can't be absorbed as well? You've already got one wrong. All those illnesses can be contracted by eating a diet containing meat. You should be emphasising the dangers of the diet not it being a complete disaster of a diet. Our food production and consumption is already utterly insane. We eat far too much sugar and meat which a vegan diet would actually massively wipe out. Then you say a vegan living a long time is lying! Ask Carl Lewis how he was feeling being one of the greatest athletes of all time on a vegan diet. Then you label it a starvation cult. What a rabid, senseless cunt you are.
Paul Taylor 1/2 pound of beef compared to a handful of nuts, let's say 10. Shouldnt have more than that daily. Assuming all nuts take 5 litres of water - which they don't. 10 nuts =50 litres 1/2 pound of beef = 8183 litres
@@billcarver6539 So true Bill. If we hadn't been eating meat for many centuries then Ed and Southy wouldn't be here to be irritating activists. I can handle vegans if they get on with their own lives as anybody should but it's the activists I despise by trying to tell others how to live their lives.
Blood Memory that video is utter bollocks. The World Health Organisation and American Dietetics Association both agree that a vegan or vegetarian diet is completely nutritionally complete. It is unnecessary to breed and murder these animals because there is nothing in them or their by-products that we need.
Just want to ask what you think will happen to all the animals on farms right now if we stopped farming them. Truthfully what you think would happen, to all the animals over the next 5 to 10 years?
Where would you put them all? Who would feed them in winter and who would pay for that? Who would give the medicine and pay for that? When a cow or sheep has problem giving birth, are you are going to help be there to help?
Ed is a very good interviewee. He wrong foots the establishment by being so reasoned, polite and hugely articulate. He is an inspiration to all activists to simply use the quality of their argument.
It's great to see how people like ED being articulated and educted on camera.. Well Done the truth.. Farming practices are the same all over the world and 7 years ago I went vegan because of those practices.. Profits over cruelty? No thanks 😡
How have I over reacted? You're obviously not aware of everything that Earthling Ed actually does. He and Joey Carbstrong are my favourite vegans and for me the most inspirational people right now for the Vegan movement!
+Nathan Harmer-Taylor I'd still prefer Gary Yourofsky's approach and think his personality and activism is better. With that said, I think Ed's activism is good as well, but not better because Gary was more or portrayed himself as more passionate and/or expressive in his activism than many other vegans who are rather more or portrayed themselves as phlegmatic and/or passive in their activism.
"Activism is discouraging farmers from doing this." Well duh . . . because people have no clue about all the suffering that goes on in order to put so-called "food" on their plate or in their milkshake.
Farmers are coming forth now more than ever and showing their operations inside and out. Farmers really didn't start showing what goes on at their operations to the world until a few years ago.
Dairy & Beef will not be going anywhere, anytime soon.With the ever growing population there are forward thinking nations actively investing in all things agriculture all over the world.
Farmer Farmerer One of the main reasons to go vegan IS to combat world hunger and overpopulation. We feed animals the equivalent of 11 BILLION people worth of food a year.
His only argument is "I don't like eating meat so I'll come up with all these ridiculous reasons why you shouldn't either" You can't debate that. It's just personal opinion. Just eat what works for you and be happy you have choices. Plenty of people across the globe don't have anything to eat at all.
I have been vegan since I was born along with most of my family but I always wanted to know if we did get our main goal of people not eating meat what would we feed our dogs or cats? would we leave some slaughter houses open or find new vegan meals to feed them because its horrible having to feed my dogs meat and it makes the entire house smell.
if you want vegan pet, get a rabbit. donate your dogs and cats to your local shelter that will put them down humanely if not adopted by family that would give carnivores their real food.
I could hear the activist felt deeply, voice was almost cracking. The dairy farmer seemed like a nice person and kept his composure the whole time. He probably thought it was a loaded question, but it was only the truth plain and simple. Do you display the whole truth, or a snippet. The blood and guts as well as the grassing and petting.
The body language of the dairy farmer is leaning toward his lift, away from the activist. But yea, peopel think honest questions are loaded questions. If the truth is loaded and a threat, then there's something wrong with your truth, its that simple.
Dougy doug yeah, vegans usually get blamed too about the bad intrinsic feeling (cognitive dissonance) that rises in non-vegans when they engage in a debate. "That vegan made me feel bad, they suck.. I'm just gonna forget about all this and continue my old ways.."
I was a farm hand for years and cared deeply for the animals even the ones that we kill to slaughter, I have no experience with factory farmed animals but know plenty of people who do. in the factory they would have hundreds of pigs in pens together but aloud them to roam in the fields throughout the day. To be honest I envy the pigs, they're treat far better then us humans.
“I’d like to think....” I’m sure he would like to believe the lie he’s spinning. I’m sure he’s been so indoctrinated that he really does think everything is just fine. Bravo to Ed for applying pressure while still maintaining a professional demeanor.
I don't think he was thinking when he responded to the responses ;), I do agree with Richard that common sense isn't quite measurable in the IQ spectrum. Nevertheless I'm profoundly impressed by the level of sharpness I witnessed in this video.
It's illegal for a farm to self butcher there animals, that's why we have slaughter houses that can be monitored and regulated. So NO he doesn't show people that because it's not carried out on the farm.
If you're in the UK or use a VPN, the feature starts at around 01:10:00 www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09q09rc/victoria-derbyshire-29012018 Other than that, I'm sure it'll be on social media somewhere soon.
I’m vegan myself - It’s all well and good exposing farm cruelty but your not getting to the bottom of why farmers treat animals like this - profits. Then you have to ask why do they put profits before animal welfare - Capitalism. Maybe vegan protestors should put more effort into trying to abolish capitalism otherwise you’re not tackling the root cause of this animal cruelty.
veganism is a future of this planet it is just matter of time, hopeful not much time people who resist this natural shift are facing difficulties with change in general
I'm so very proud of you Ed! And all of the vegans for being voices for the innocent animals. I became vegan last year and had no idea of what was to come!!! My adrenalin was pumped watching this and the bits with Joey carbstrong on BBi player just now. I feel excited, there is hope for the animals! brilliant.. just brilliant
@@jimibaked4235 Pigs are struck with electrical prods & cramped so tightly in2 cages they rip of cheeks chunks of each other b4 lowered in2 gas chambers 🤷🏽♀️watch Cowspiracy & Seaspiracy genuine vids for your enquiry
We should all be allowed to eat whatever we want. Trying to enforce your opinions on someone is fascism. I think it's cruel the way some animals are slaughtered but what are we supposed to do? Not eat meat? I don't actually eat a lot of meat myself because it is being injected with gunk to make it look better so I eat a lot of rice and olives and mixed beans and tuna, but sometimes I will have chicken or pork or beef. I should be allowed to eat anything I want, not what other people tell me I can.
Conquering Lion really? What part of animal agriculture is part of human nature or our diet? Being able to eat meat does not mean we are suppose to consume it! Why do you eat meat?
sirgay meerkat You could argue the same for many vegan foods. Most plant matter is indigestable and man made. Wheat, grains, seeds are not humans natural diet. Eating animals is closer to nature than eating these man made, difficult to digest processed foods. The problem we have is the climate the majority of us live in is not suited to growing fruit all year round which are the least impactive foods on the body. Stop eating animals for ethical reasons is fine just don't expect everyone to follow.
John Phillips meat n dairy are not good for human consumption, some grains and seeds may not be suitable but that doesn't mean we can't eat others like flax seeds and oats, time to really look into what is correct and what isn't! I choose science over bro science.
Anyone can pick on a farmer. However, there are financial realities that (small) farmers have to face. I'm sure they strive to produce the highest quality foods they can-most farmers, that is. If anything, I am far more likely to want to support ethical farmers by doing business with them, rather than attack them for raising chickens, pigs, goats, lamb, cattle/cows, etc. Most people in America think like this. (Britain is probably fairly similar in this regard.) And some crops and livestock you can make a bigger profit from. There are economics to consider here folks, not just vegan moralities...
I wanted to watch the whole interview but BBC is only restrictef to the UK... people from elsewhere cant watch it what a shame. Id be really interested in thr discussion because so far Ed seems to verbally "destroy" the farmer ;)
You know What, fair play to this guy. He's standing up for something he believes in and is being active about it, more than can be said for alot of the people in the comments
What the farmer meant to say was, "No, we lie to the public regarding animal welfare"
I'm clapping rn... thank youuuuu
@Barry Barry There would be far less accidental deaths if we didnt produce plants to feed billions upon billions of animals as well as billions of humans. let's grant animals their basic right not to have their throats slit, then maybe we can look at trying to improve farming practices.
@J P it's not a matter about removing suffering entirely, but minimizing it when possible. Most of the plants we grow we feed to animals, which means that even if we didn't kill the animals for meat, it would still take more dead animals to produce animal-based food than vegan food.
I don't know how Ed keeps his cool, just watching this I'm boiling in rage inside.
Practice and Knowledge, he knows losing his cool will not help.
GoustiFruit φ why u ragin bro we need our burgers
GoustiFruit φ How do you feel about Luffy being a carnivore?😂
The man is a legand.
He’s the greatest.
"I like to think that we do" is an avoidance answer.
Euphemism for "We don't do this for shit as it would make us run out of business."
Sherri Amaral Hodge and i like to think that unicorns exist and i like to think that i am a mermaid fairy and i generally like to think :D i laughed at the farmer who just likes to imagine a pretty world to ignore the brutal reality
That farmer was at a loss to answer because he believes that what happens in farming is necessary because it's all legal, he doesn't see the horror and unnecessary cruelty in what he does, because he believes he is being righteous supplying food for us, he's not a bad person, just blinkered by the cultural, habitual acceptance of these practices, all this meat eating and production is a kind of unconscious addiction at this stage, thankfully there are farmers who have realized the cruelty they are taking part in and have changed their livelihoods, hopefully there will be many more in the future, thanks to people like Earthling Ed doing the work that is so badly needed, thank you Ed,
look i dont defend these farmers, but there is nothing wrong in eating animals and butchering them and so on! as long as they have good places to be and living good etc!
Hamza Younis but that's like saying it's okay to kill a Person because they had a good life. Wether the person wants to die or not your going to kill them even though they did nothing to deserve to die.
"I like to think that we do"
lol classic bullshitter's line. Just phrasing it in a way so that he doesn't have to answer in terms of fact so no one can say he actually lied.
OHP77 you have toprovide the people who are forced to live off this industry a safe retreat if you want people to not support the industry. You can progress in all other ways but you got make sure everyone will be able to get out of the trap with no worry.
That basically means no doesn't it
ikr
Right like what is he even saying
@@yoyoyo7189
Which seems logically akin to saying that (human) slavery abolitionists should have had a readymade economic 'escape hatch' readied to present to slaveowners, all tied up in a bow.
I do feel that wealthy societies have a role in easing economic transitions, but I don't feel that placing that responsibility largely upon the shoulders of those pointing-out injustice, is the answer; that too-easily lazily leads-to: "Either hand me a giftwrapped solution, or be silent!"
'Perpetrators' ARE (primarily) responsible for changing their own unethical behavior..
Society, at best, can merely point-to, and hopefully help emplace, 'options'..
It shouldn't be made-easy for perpetrators of injustices to continue coddledly, blameshiftingly making excuses, or to repeatedly 'move the goalposts', while merely insincerely feigning regrets.
If others accept 'responsibility', closedminded abusers will gladly LET them.
There's, I hope you'd agree, a vast diff tween 'helping', and excusing/ enabling those who only pay lipservice, if even that, to mending their ways. Evading direct questions, as this farmer disingenuously does, is a huge red flag.
2:43 Shoutout to the anchor for bringing my guy back to reality😬
Akuo Subliminals ikr? 😄
That was awesome😂😂
I wasnt expecting that tbh
Akuo Subliminals I
Her name is Victoria Derbyshire and she’s honestly a goddess.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
earthling ed is everything
rockinstrawberries as we are all - as all we are.
Paul Taylor Okay Paul...
Paul Taylor Starvation cult? Odd because the more meat we eat the more grain we take to produce that steak on your plate.
I am so sorry that you have to live a life so deluded...
Why are you soo mad about this ? hahaha ist it beacuse you are AFRAID COWARD ? :)
There is no way this farmer is being transparent or *can* be transparent and still remain in business.
He doesn't have to be transparent, he's busy getting my dinner ready.
But he likes to think he does! LOL
so this farmer tells you what to do, reverse psychology! its sad to see really! unnatural, unhealthy and being controlled by these fascist dictator bullies, shame bullies! its disgusting behavior!
Hamza Younis facist dictator bullies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 go play with yr unicorn princess .. 🤣🤣🤣
+gotohell gotohell
look very closely again to what im saying, im talking about the toxic vegan new world order attitude!
It’s so wonderful now that the mainstream media is having on knowledgeable and passionate activists like Ed. He speaks for peace and justice for all.
DreamingTata VeganMama 🤣🤣 the guy is a hypocritical twit like every other vegan.. even water has live micro organisms in it so what gives you idiots the right to determine what life form is more inportant then others .
gotohell gotohell 9000 IQ right here
@@letsbehonest4221 "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."
@@gliocchiali6075 i stand by my comment
@@letsbehonest4221 Then why do you have an IQ of a house plant? You're not even vegan yet you're here?sad
Ed is beautifully brilliant.
So much for the farmer's "transparency".....Just a like a politician, he was full of BS when asked the question....if he's covering something up, you know it's not good....go vegan !
Great job by Ed, and thanks PBN....PBN it would be great if you could upload the entire discussion
Right on Vegan For The Animals - I'd love to see the whole clip and how he can possibly reply to that without looking like a crazy person or an outright liar.
Starts around 1.10 this only works for people in the uk. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09q09rc/victoria-derbyshire-29012018
+Conscientious.....that's right my friend
That's because they can't justify the brutal killing and breeding of animals just for slaughter, they can't because then the majority of people that have some semblance of a conscience wouldn't eat the meat
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i vo I mean there are still organic farms that take care of their animals and use them for food and profit regardless if that's meat or milk. If people want to eat meat we should let them, it's their choice really. I eat meat but also drink vegan products due to trying to lose weight and because I love meat.
So this guys farm shows calf separation? Animal slaughter? Artificial insemination? The animal mutilation he mentioned etc? OR NOT? Or is it more come along and stroke the odd healthy cow in a nice green field? Probably closer the the later
Chris Homer Of course it's the latter. That's why he never answered the question but just repeated "I like to think we show the whole process" which means nothing. I like to think the whole world is vegan but it isn't yet :)
DaleAmigaMan Crazy isn’t it. Very pleased to see awareness growing at such a rate though. We need conversions like this out there to keep it moving, so very pleased to see this being aired! 😀
mark anderson; so would you like your mother, daughter, wife or just a stranger from cross the street to be artificially inceminated without even asking their approval? And then just robbing the baby away?
Or would you prefer a fruit/plant to be artificially pollinated to produce nutrients for you consumption?
Which one would you mutilate? There is no difference?
I want to take the tour where he is elbow deep inside a cow, that is so wholesome.
I like to think we don't need "Contains Hot Liquid" warnings on coffee cups but what I like to think doesn't always reflect reality, the farmer is full of shit, he is lying through his teeth and he does it with a pathetic little grin knowing he cannot be definitively proven wrong at that moment.
I hope to see Ed do more of these debates on TV, the farmers don't stand a chance against Ed's knowledge of factory farming. The farmers can't justify what they do because there is no justification for killing innocent animals. Thanks Ed for your continued efforts to educate people, so much respect for you. Thanks PBN for spreading the message ✌️
Paul Taylor veganism is not malnutrition, boy your uneducated
Paul Taylor some of us would rather swallow razor blades than dead bodies and another species excretions thanks very much
Paul Taylor A vegan revolutionised technology! The iPhone, iPad, iMac and the apps. Vegans eh 💪🏼💚
I was brought up on a dairy farm. Happy days.
Paul Taylor I think that you may have been exposed to vegans that don't bother learning to cook and therefore become malnourished. But as for the vegan that have researched the sources of their nutrition, protein and fat, the main two components of meat, these can be easily substituted for plant based food (pulses, beans, lentils, nuts, oil as well as veg with higher protein levels). I understand your immediate assumption because some people refuse to learn to cook (two bags of crisps and a donut a day can be vegan but still not nutritious) whereas a vegan cook makes dishes BETTER because they know their shit
I LOVE BEING VEGAN!!!
Greaser5500 Lmao how is it unlucky to love no longer supporting animal abuse? No longer eating dismembered corpses and secretions? And no longer destroying your health and the planet?
I LOVE BEING AN OMNIVORE!!!
@@PW-yv3sc Totally.
Kashi Sinha humans have been eating meat since the beginning of time. You aren’t a disgusting person for eating meat.
Let me just clarify, I don’t care if you or anyone else is a vegan, it’s just myself and many others can agree that when a vegan tries to protest their opinions on others who constantly disagree or don’t care (even if it’s not aggressive) it is always annoying, especially if they don’t let up.
Honestly though humans are the most dominant species on the planet for a reason, shit like this isn’t unethical, we have been farming animals just the same for ages, technology is just getting more advanced and efficient.
It may seem more brutal, in actuality it’s just doing things faster.
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kubush
Maybe when you’re on your deathbed, you’ll have realized the more compassionate choice was the right one, in everything- not just this. Good luck in life.
Ed, that was so eloquently put. Well done for being so poised and polite. Giving vegans a great name. Thank you.
Where can we see the entire interview
angry vegan thank you ! Link ?
here you go :) th-cam.com/video/OK2-TapjS9o/w-d-xo.html
Bam! That was a hard hitting response from Ed. I'm fired up man, awesome job, keep up the great work PBN and Earthling Ed! The world is changing, we just have to keep waking people up.
👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
what the hell we didn't get to see the farmer's response at the end it was just cut off. I'm guessing he made a good point.
More than likely. Many activists want to end animal suffering, but fail to compare farming to nature. Surely any animal would rather die a quick death and be used for human food than be caught alive by ANY of their natural predators.
I've just viewed the full item on BBC iPlayer and Ed was brilliant! It was reassuring that almost all of the people that emailed and had their comments read out were vegans.
DaleAmigaMan Whats the link or name of the program please?
Starts at around 1.10 www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09q09rc/victoria-derbyshire-29012018
Ain’t he the new Gary Yourofsky
Mirela Kdirova - Even better I would say
No, just no. Each activist is great in their own right with what they bring to the vegan movement. Gary in my opinion was one of the greatest vegan activists in the world, of all time. Earthling Ed is a fucking amazing vegan activist as well, but there will never be another Gary.
Relax
Both are brilliant for the movement.
He's not nearly as savage
It was learning about the separation of mama cow from her calf that turned me vegan. I lost 40 pounds, I have the cholesterol of a 20-year-old and I'm no longer diabetic. I'm preparing beautiful healthy meals and I have great energy. All because of learning the truth.
watching Ed is such a pleasure. dairy will be the first to go down!!
Greaser5550 so the people who don’t support murder and the mistreatment of animals are sad people? Huh I always thought we were fairly compassionate people.
@Greaser5550
God please give this man a brain. Or a heart actually
@Greaser5550 Unlucky carnists. You don't know what compassion is.
Wow he was so calm!!! He did so well!
BOOM! That just happened! Damn it feels good to be a vegan. Full transparency for the breastfeeders.
+vegan Cure 84% of vegetarians and vegans abandon their diet.
84% of meat eaters make up statistics in an attempt to bring substance to a debate.
+Travis Anthony the statistic is quoted from a vegan website that did a survey using 12000 vegans in America. Possibly the largest survey ever done on vegans and vegetarians. Here is the survey. You can also download the raw data of the actuall 12000 survey results.
faunalytics.org/a-summary-of-faunalytics-study-of-current-and-former-vegetarians-and-vegans/
Do you have any of the links to any of the stats quoted in this video? I don't expect you do.
Travis Travis are you part of that 84%? At what percentage of vegans remaining vegan would you consider becoming a vegan? After all, it’s all about percentages not about our health, the environment or the animals. Go on and choose your tastebuds over empathy and compassion... hopefully one day you choose the latter. Peace.
+vegan Crue I'm not vegan or a former vegan. I have gone to restaurants and chosen the vegetarian option before because I knew it tastes good. If the vegan diet was more convenient and cheaper sure I would eat it...end of the day your just asking people to eat food. I think keep it simple...make the food tastier, more convenient and cheaper...people will eat it. This moral high ground will get vegans nowhere.
There's nothing to debate. I eat meat and I don't need any statistics for that.
Ed has true empathy for all living sentient beings! He is a tireless activist who is in the forefront of this worldwide vegan movement! Thanks Plant Based News for spreading the word.👍
Paul Taylor, your question is merely a distraction to the real issue at hand.... the suffering of innocent beings. We do not need to eat dead animals to survive. As a matter of fact, we vegans can and do "thrive" on a plant-based diet. We humans have a choice. BTW, would you want to eat head lice, crabs, or fleas??? As you say they are "sentient beings" too. Are they something you would want to eat??? The bottom line is it's not realistic to think that one could live with head lice or crabs. It's just not practical thinking. We need to apply good old-fashioned common sense here. Just saying.
Paul Taylor, try telling that to Dr. Ellsworth Wareham who is 103 years old and has been vegan most of his life! Just Google him. Last I heard he was still mowing his grass with a push mower! As for B12 it's easy to get that in fortified cereals, nut milks, etc. Many carnivores are deficient in B12. Being vegan is better for our health, the animals, and the environment. Many scientific studies support it. Dr. Ellsworth Wareham is living proof of it.
Paul Taylor, whether you want to believe it or not Dr. Ellsworth Wareham is a known vegan. As I said, Just Google him. And as for nuts, I've met several carnivores who are nuts!
Paul Taylor I'm not even vegan but typically you're talking in absolutes with no balance at all.
Nutritional yeast is one example of plant based b12 but many foods are fortified. As is meat funnily enough as it's not a direct source of b12 itself. Can you give me the other important micronutrients that can't be absorbed as well? You've already got one wrong.
All those illnesses can be contracted by eating a diet containing meat. You should be emphasising the dangers of the diet not it being a complete disaster of a diet. Our food production and consumption is already utterly insane. We eat far too much sugar and meat which a vegan diet would actually massively wipe out.
Then you say a vegan living a long time is lying! Ask Carl Lewis how he was feeling being one of the greatest athletes of all time on a vegan diet.
Then you label it a starvation cult. What a rabid, senseless cunt you are.
Paul Taylor 1/2 pound of beef compared to a handful of nuts, let's say 10. Shouldnt have more than that daily.
Assuming all nuts take 5 litres of water - which they don't.
10 nuts =50 litres
1/2 pound of beef = 8183 litres
@earthlinged is the best!
Love this!! Ed did a brilliant job!
Katie x HE DID! 😀😄😊
And I killed 2 pigs and a calf because he posted this video and it's what I will do everytime he posts one....So let's see how much he cares
@@stephenlord1986
Lol! That is the dumbest trolling attempt ever.
@@stephenlord1986 I don't work on a farm but I'll eat double the amount of meat for dinner every time he posts one 👍
When you go against Earthing Ed you better be armed to the teeth!
@Southy Wow, you're everywhere. Typical meatard
Southy Good luck with your diseases then!
@Southy Why is it all vegans think eating meat causes diseases and stuff? If it did, half the worlds population would be dead.
Southy when the vegan force fed children start dying , veganism will take a dive in popularity
@@billcarver6539 So true Bill. If we hadn't been eating meat for many centuries then Ed and Southy wouldn't be here to be irritating activists. I can handle vegans if they get on with their own lives as anybody should but it's the activists I despise by trying to tell others how to live their lives.
I love the term "Fact slam" 💚
Blood Memory that video is utter bollocks. The World Health Organisation and American Dietetics Association both agree that a vegan or vegetarian diet is completely nutritionally complete. It is unnecessary to breed and murder these animals because there is nothing in them or their by-products that we need.
Yakir Ben Haim true!
Just want to ask what you think will happen to all the animals on farms right now if we stopped farming them. Truthfully what you think would happen, to all the animals over the next 5 to 10 years?
Where would you put them all? Who would feed them in winter and who would pay for that? Who would give the medicine and pay for that? When a cow or sheep has problem giving birth, are you are going to help be there to help?
So the plan is to let the die out? Let the slowly starve to death? or freeze to death in winter?
So awesome. The world needs more people like Earthling Ed.
Ed is the man!
Ed is a very good interviewee. He wrong foots the establishment by being so reasoned, polite and hugely articulate. He is an inspiration to all activists to simply use the quality of their argument.
My dude Ed going at it!!!!!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
2018 is now set to yet another FANTASTIC Vegan awaking year!
Well done Ed!!!!!!!! xx
I would have liked to see how the farmer responded. Why was the video cut off? Is there a link to the full interview.
It's great to see how people like ED being articulated and educted on camera.. Well Done the truth.. Farming practices are the same all over the world and 7 years ago I went vegan because of those practices.. Profits over cruelty? No thanks 😡
Absolutely loved this. Earthling Ed is amazing, for me he is now even better than Gary Yourofsky. Keep up the hard work Ed, peace and love man ✌️❤️
Nathan Harmer-Taylor let's not overreact
How have I over reacted? You're obviously not aware of everything that Earthling Ed actually does. He and Joey Carbstrong are my favourite vegans and for me the most inspirational people right now for the Vegan movement!
+Nathan Harmer-Taylor
I'd still prefer Gary Yourofsky's approach and think his personality and activism is better. With that said, I think Ed's activism is good as well, but not better because Gary was more or portrayed himself as more passionate and/or expressive in his activism than many other vegans who are rather more or portrayed themselves as phlegmatic and/or passive in their activism.
Is showing how to make a salad by cutting vegetables to pieces or throwing live vegetables in boiling water to make soup humane ?.
Ed always does a great job! He is just fab! 👏🏻
slappalil why is it so short?
"Activism is discouraging farmers from doing this." Well duh . . . because people have no clue about all the suffering that goes on in order to put so-called "food" on their plate or in their milkshake.
Farmers are coming forth now more than ever and showing their operations inside and out. Farmers really didn't start showing what goes on at their operations to the world until a few years ago.
Earthling Ed is a hero!
There is no doubt,the farmer is speechless of what Ed said.
Dairy & Beef will not be going anywhere, anytime soon.With the ever growing population there are forward thinking nations actively investing in all things agriculture all over the world.
Farmer Farmerer
One of the main reasons to go vegan IS to combat world hunger and overpopulation. We feed animals the equivalent of 11 BILLION people worth of food a year.
His first question was a suble insult and that just continues and continues
@@zain4019 or just raise those cows properly with mixed crops integrated as feed and have safe sex
His only argument is "I don't like eating meat so I'll come up with all these ridiculous reasons why you shouldn't either"
You can't debate that. It's just personal opinion. Just eat what works for you and be happy you have choices. Plenty of people across the globe don't have anything to eat at all.
Good yes, you either do or you don't - there's no in between. When the farmer opens his gate he opens the curtains like a stage set up.
987% increase wow! That's amazing we are truly revolutionary
This!! He is amazing! Kind but very persistent and fact based. I am trying to be more like him. ~Micki
I have been vegan since I was born along with most of my family but I always wanted to know if we did get our main goal of people not eating meat what would we feed our dogs or cats? would we leave some slaughter houses open or find new vegan meals to feed them because its horrible having to feed my dogs meat and it makes the entire house smell.
if you want vegan pet, get a rabbit.
donate your dogs and cats to your local shelter that will put them down humanely if not adopted by family that would give carnivores their real food.
I could hear the activist felt deeply, voice was almost cracking. The dairy farmer seemed like a nice person and kept his composure the whole time.
He probably thought it was a loaded question, but it was only the truth plain and simple. Do you display the whole truth, or a snippet. The blood and guts as well as the grassing and petting.
The body language of the dairy farmer is leaning toward his lift, away from the activist. But yea, peopel think honest questions are loaded questions. If the truth is loaded and a threat, then there's something wrong with your truth, its that simple.
Dougy doug yeah, vegans usually get blamed too about the bad intrinsic feeling (cognitive dissonance) that rises in non-vegans when they engage in a debate. "That vegan made me feel bad, they suck.. I'm just gonna forget about all this and continue my old ways.."
Ive slaughtered plenty of pigs but dont remember torturing any.
I was a farm hand for years and cared deeply for the animals even the ones that we kill to slaughter, I have no experience with factory farmed animals but know plenty of people who do. in the factory they would have hundreds of pigs in pens together but aloud them to roam in the fields throughout the day. To be honest I envy the pigs, they're treat far better then us humans.
Where do vegans stop? Do they kill mosquitos? Do they wear red clothes? Do they use oil? Because none of those things are 100% vegan
"...they don't use any animal product...or dairy."
??? ???
Veganism being brought to the mainstream media (and not in a negative light! *gasp*) is absolutely incredible! ❤
good old Ed
"I like to think that we do"
So you want to think that you do, but in reality don't?
Full version pleaseeee!!!
“I’d like to think....” I’m sure he would like to believe the lie he’s spinning. I’m sure he’s been so indoctrinated that he really does think everything is just fine. Bravo to Ed for applying pressure while still maintaining a professional demeanor.
farmer boi g0t rekt
People still eat meat. You lose. 🤣
kubush
With every passing year, the vegan movement is growing and number that eat meat are shrinking.
You lose. In 50 years, you might see why.
zain good to know that humanity will die out in 50 years
The farmer seemed very nervous so I was glad that he was being politely educated.
Legend says the farmer suffered 1st degree burns that day....
It hurts my heart for both mummy and baby to think of them separated 😔
This man has an IQ of at least 500
So using common sense is considered genius? Murdering animals is wrong.
Not sure who I was referring to here but I think I was talking about the farmer
I don't think he was thinking when he responded to the responses ;), I do agree with Richard that common sense isn't quite measurable in the IQ spectrum. Nevertheless I'm profoundly impressed by the level of sharpness I witnessed in this video.
@@JoohingDenSeje what??????
Well...it took me 64 years...but I have arrived. Been vegan for two weeks now. I love it. 🦋
Good job, Ed! You did great!
Earthling Ed will be one of the people mentioned in history books someday in the future... this is amazing!
1:09 I call him Vegan Jesus
Suzana Josic more like vegan hippo
It's illegal for a farm to self butcher there animals, that's why we have slaughter houses that can be monitored and regulated. So NO he doesn't show people that because it's not carried out on the farm.
Body language is everything. Look at how the farmer is sitting. He's intimidated by Ed.
Love vegans who can keep a calm aura and fact slam!
Love this man, he is a giant👏👏👏👏👏
Ed you absolute legend!!
Awesome video! I love Ed so much, he's doing so much great things for the vegan movement. 💓
There is no way that farmer shows the slaughter of his livestock to the public. ..........no way!
Go ed! The truth will prevail!!
Society has simply become too soft.
There is nothing soft about having empathy. Quite the opposite.
Where can we find the full interview?
I'd like to know as well!
If you're in the UK or use a VPN, the feature starts at around 01:10:00 www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09q09rc/victoria-derbyshire-29012018
Other than that, I'm sure it'll be on social media somewhere soon.
Ben thanks!! I’m in Canada so I will patiently wait for it.
I’m vegan myself - It’s all well and good exposing farm cruelty but your not getting to the bottom of why farmers treat animals like this - profits.
Then you have to ask why do they put profits before animal welfare - Capitalism. Maybe vegan protestors should put more effort into trying to abolish capitalism otherwise you’re not tackling the root cause of this animal cruelty.
What a legend!
veganism is a future of this planet
it is just matter of time, hopeful not much time
people who resist this natural shift are facing difficulties with change in general
ed is amazing ! so thankfull for his work
0:56 because the point is not to force people to change, it's to persuade people to change.
I'm so very proud of you Ed! And all of the vegans for being voices for the innocent animals. I became vegan last year and had no idea of what was to come!!! My adrenalin was pumped watching this and the bits with Joey carbstrong on BBi player just now. I feel excited, there is hope for the animals! brilliant.. just brilliant
How r animals innocent ? Innocent from what ? a genuine question
@@jimibaked4235 Pigs are struck with electrical prods & cramped so tightly in2 cages they rip of cheeks chunks of each other b4 lowered in2 gas chambers 🤷🏽♀️watch Cowspiracy & Seaspiracy genuine vids for your enquiry
We should all be allowed to eat whatever we want. Trying to enforce your opinions on someone is fascism. I think it's cruel the way some animals are slaughtered but what are we supposed to do? Not eat meat?
I don't actually eat a lot of meat myself because it is being injected with gunk to make it look better so I eat a lot of rice and olives and mixed beans and tuna, but sometimes I will have chicken or pork or beef. I should be allowed to eat anything I want, not what other people tell me I can.
I like to *_think_* that we do? YOU EITHER *DO* OR YOU *DON'T.*
Where is the full version?
Wonderful, wonderful job Ed!!!
LOL😄 LOOOOOVE IT! Thank you for sharing PBN 💖 Glad Ed was interviewed for this. He did A REALLY good job. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you so much.😊 Made my day😍
Ughhhhh. This doesn't seem to be available outside of the U.k. I'm hoping more will be available soon. Ed is my hero!!!
It's not? Strange. I'm from eastern Europe and this is available for me
try watching it on the computer not a mobile device
Alice Koch okay i will. Thanks. Fingers crossed!
tonialcarrier if not use app like opera vpn (it's free) to view it. 😎
So what happens to all the domesticated animals? Pretty sure that the vegans won't be adopting a cow.
o yeah yeah of course we show everything that happens on a farm NOT
Plenty of farms do.
I dont get it. Why should i care about animals being slathered?
why did it finish early?
Go vegan people and you will feel amazing.. and do the right thing by Gods creatures. The world is changing to see the greed and cruelty in farming
Boom! In your face farmer!!! Time to start growing some veg n fruit
Never gonna happen. We may need to make farming more humane but eating meat is just part of human diet.
Conquering Lion really? What part of animal agriculture is part of human nature or our diet? Being able to eat meat does not mean we are suppose to consume it! Why do you eat meat?
sirgay meerkat You could argue the same for many vegan foods. Most plant matter is indigestable and man made. Wheat, grains, seeds are not humans natural diet. Eating animals is closer to nature than eating these man made, difficult to digest processed foods. The problem we have is the climate the majority of us live in is not suited to growing fruit all year round which are the least impactive foods on the body. Stop eating animals for ethical reasons is fine just don't expect everyone to follow.
John Phillips meat n dairy are not good for human consumption, some grains and seeds may not be suitable but that doesn't mean we can't eat others like flax seeds and oats, time to really look into what is correct and what isn't! I choose science over bro science.
Greaser5550 awake you mean! You go back to sleep now.
Reguardless of what side ur on you gotta respect a debate of facts and conversation and not screaming and profanity.👍
So proud of you Ed
Anyone can pick on a farmer. However, there are financial realities that (small) farmers have to face. I'm sure they strive to produce the highest quality foods they can-most farmers, that is. If anything, I am far more likely to want to support ethical farmers by doing business with them, rather than attack them for raising chickens, pigs, goats, lamb, cattle/cows, etc. Most people in America think like this. (Britain is probably fairly similar in this regard.) And some crops and livestock you can make a bigger profit from. There are economics to consider here folks, not just vegan moralities...
Yes! Love this video. :)
Right on Ed! Thanks for this PBN!
This is great..but where's the full interview?
tom belcher probably on Earthling Ed's own channel
You should be able to watch it on bbc iplayer, it was on bbc 2 at 10am today.
OMG EARTHLING ED YOU ARE AMAZING
I wanted to watch the whole interview but BBC is only restrictef to the UK... people from elsewhere cant watch it what a shame. Id be really interested in thr discussion because so far Ed seems to verbally "destroy" the farmer ;)
Kev Kev it might be on Ed's channel
Byron Murphy i really hope so :) thanks for the suggestion i might check out Eds channel then ;)
Kev Kev check out Liam Anthony and Logan Blake aswell, they are good eggs (vegan eggs of course lol)
Byron Murphy thanks for the advice i will definitely take a look at them respectively their eggs :-P
You know What, fair play to this guy. He's standing up for something he believes in and is being active about it, more than can be said for alot of the people in the comments