FIRST TIME WATCHING *Batman vs Superman: Ultimate Edition*
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Synopsis:Bruce Wayne, a billionaire, believes that Superman is a threat to humanity after his battle in Metropolis. Thus, he decides to adopt his mantle of Batman and defeat him once and for all.
That Batman warehouse fight scene is simply outstanding!
the greatest live-picture Batman fight of all times
Sick name bruh
zack Snyder's magic.
That's the biggest thing that the original neutered. And completely changes the tone of what Batman is willing to do in this one.
@@braveboy2445 Exactly
Now, all we can hope is that he watches the Snyder Cut instead of the original 2016 version of Justice League
i think it was 2017 but i totally agree
Overrated
@@MamadNobari not even close
@@aaronmcnair982 lmao that movie sucked lol Snydercut was way better u good
I'm sure he will lol
I'm glad you watched the Ultimate Edition and are going to watch the Synder Cut of Justice League. The theatrical version of both movies didn't do them justice especially with Justice League. With the Batman V Superman they cut out 30 minutes of footage which added a lot of context which messed up the pacing of the movie. As for Justice League they rewrote almost the entire movie. The full 4 hour Synder Cut version is an epic experience. It feels like a comic book coming to life and that's rare for most Superhero movies.
Zack synder the goat forever
@@zyairrountree2411 facts 🎉
the Ultimate Edition really does help to understand some of the characters' motivations and other things in BvS which I think inspired much of the criticism against this film.... but... at the same time.... if you just are a thinking reflective person all of those motivations are already clearly implied in the theatrical cut so the criticisms were always lazy and unfair anyway.
“Snyder”
“Would Batman have kids? Does he in the comics?” Yes, he actually has a kid with Talia al ghul. His name is Damien Wayne. He was raised by the league of shadows and becomes the most recent Robin. He’s grown pretty popular over the past decade. There is a really cool dynamic between the two.
isn`t he also had daughter from Selina in another comics?
Damien and Talon in the Court of Owl storyline
@@BekindBekbek yep. Bruce has a son with Talia and a daughter with Selina.
Even tho he was drugged and had no idea tho
everyone knows that
Wonder Woman's entrance in the final act will always be my favorite superhero entrance ever! Her song and just seeing the costume for the first time still gives me goosebumps. 😍😄
also the war cry as she leaps in, impossible to not get hyped
❤️❤️❤️😭
Avengers Infinity war: Thor's entrance in Wakanda is x1000 better than this
@@MarKit0sNaVaJaaa hell no
@@MarKit0sNaVaJaaa true
So the deleted scenes from the theatrical cut were mostly scenes that explained Luthor's plan and explaining Superman's motivations for fighting Batman. Most of the IMAX 4:3 scenes were still in the theatrical cut just cropped to be the same as the rest of the film.
The biggest reasons why people hated BvS back in 2016 was because 1) Batman's 'no kill' rule, (even though every cinematic Batman has killed except Clooney; Keaton killed Joker's goons at ACE chemicals and bombed Penguins goons, Bale's Batman let Ras Al Ghul, Harvey Dent and Talia Al Ghul die) as well as the fact that after losing Robin to Joker & 20-years of vigilantism, Batman has compromised his moral code, and the other major hang-up was 2) Batman befriending Superman so quickly after realizing their moms share the same name, Martha. The reason why they teamed up so quickly after that revelation is because Bruce's mother's name, Martha, triggered the PTSD he had from losing his parents, and Bruce realized if he killed Clark and took the life of Martha Kent's son, then Bruce would be no different than Joe Chill who took the life of Bruce Wayne's mother, Martha Wayne. Essentially Batman realized he became the very thing he swore his whole life to fight against, and that's why he befriended Superman so quickly.
The apocalyptic nightmare that Bruce had was a vision of the future if Superman turned evil, which gets more set-up in Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021). When you get to that point of watching ZSJL just remember, "Lois Lane is the key" to save Superman from turning evil like that apocalyptic vision warned about (given as a result by the Flash's quantum time-travel abilities). There's a lot more to this story that Zack Snyder was building and hopefully we get JL sequels to finish the saga.
If they do decide to continue and build on Snyder's story, I just hope they don't go with Bruce dying to save Lois and then Lois & Clark name their kid Bruce Kent. That is literally the stupidest thing to happen, and we've had a lot of stupid shit happen in superhero films lol
Nicely explained. Glad to see people sharing the correct vision of Zack to the world. People were so blind when this movie came out back then
yeah. For me it was so easy to understand all this stuff. Batman recoiled at the monster he had become. It wasn't just "oh hey, our mom's have the same name! neat!" like the idiots complaining about the film say... it was that Batman was trying to see Superman as not a person, but as an alien, and a threat. He had de-humanized him, and also dehumanized himself so that he could go through with this mission and neutralize the threat. But when Superman said Martha... this triggered Bruce's humanity because he immediately starts thinking about his own mother.... then he realizes it's Superman's mother that he's talking about not Bruce's... and this immediately destroys the image of him that Bruce had carefully constructed in his head: that of the faceless alien threat. The bomb that needs to be defused. And, in an instant, in that moment, Bruce for the first time sees Kal-El as not just a dangerous bomb that could go off and destroy the world, but as a person... with a mother... with people who love him... and Bruce sees what he has become and recoils from it. Of course he wants to try and make things right at that point, because under the rage and bitterness and callousness of decades, he's still got that moral compass and sense of justice. It's not that he hated Superman personally or something. I don't know why some people had such a hard time understanding stuff like this in the film; it was so well done. But I guess many people NEED to have everything spelled out for them in obvious and pedantic dialogue... this movie does what they always teach writers to do: show don't tell. But... some people need to be told.
@@nooneofconsequence1251 you explained it well my thing is if an audience member were not a fan going into the movie they wouldn't understand all that and secondly it plays better if some of what you said was in Bruce's dialogue or perhaps a narration at the end of BVS 💯 non the less Affleck's rendition of The Dark Knight is superb and especially his fighting choreography. The thing I liked most about what you said was that Clark was an Alien and I feel in a real world scenario that would bring panic so much so ( that they could write an entire movie frome the people's perspective of what it's like having a real flying alien of unpredictability among us). Bruce acted accordingly, taking extreme precautions and even drastic measures while the rest of the world built around him was in my opinion out of sync. I noticed how they often referred to him as a god instead of alien also they weren't scared of him ( this alien creature who could fly, who's fast, who is powerful and whom they don't know on a personal level so they couldn't be too sure whether he had a moral compass or not.) The news Anker's talked about him with no fear of repercussions, even with all of the power he possessed, the court room demanded he attend with no fear as to what he might do if angered. Even though we as movie goers know that Superman was good it wasn't public knowledge what Clark's motives was after he and Zod messed up metropolis. I feel that the movie could've benefited greatly from this if society acted out more precautionary in the movie.
very true. It's also partially because he saw Superman as purely an alien with his own moral compass, or lack thereof, and so saw him as a threat. Learning he did in fact have a mother completely challenged that belief.
41:45 fun fact, that shot of Batman infront of the lighting is taken directly from the comic cover of “The Dark knight returns” which is what Affleck’s Batman was adapted from
I know what shot your talking about without even looking. Such a cool moment
@@Jake-im8eq it’s such a cool homage to an amazing Batman story, Synder might not be the best writer and storyteller sometimes, but he is one of the best cinematographer’s working today
@@notthefia9154 He didn't write BVS though. He did write Wonder Woman and that was well received.
@@shanegill5944I didn’t say he wrote Bvs, that’s the god awful writing ability of Chris Terrio and David S Goyer, Wonder Woman was really well written by Synder, but he’s very hit and miss with his writing, it either really works or it flat out doesn’t work there’s no in between, some of the original plans for the direction of Batman going forward were absolutely god awful, Man of steel would’ve been an absolute train wreck if not for Christopher Nolan keeping Goyer from absolutely tanking the screenplay
@@notthefia9154 dude. Stop typing. Why are you even here? Is everything awful to you?
A lotta ppl complained about the Martha scene and said it didn’t make sense. It makes perfect sense. The entire movie Batman looked at Superman as just an alien god who brought destruction on earth. He never once thought he could be someone’s son. That he could have a family and ppl that care about him. So when he finds out that Martha is his mother. It reminds Bruce of his mother Martha who died. Hence why he was asking why was he saying that name
The thing about the Martha scene, they're not automatically friends after, Bruce just realizes that he was wrong and all the pent up rage/anger was misdirected. Hearing Clark tell him to save martha literally hit him in his ptsd.
also makes him see Kal-El as a person for the first time, and not just as a dangerous space alien threat that needed to be neutralized.
Gave Superman a humanity
Not to mention Bruce's mother was named Martha. It made a connection between the two, not wanting to see another son lose his mother.
If a psycho like Bruce has a trigger word, it's probably that one
Bruce is obsessed like Captain Ahab. Unlike Ahaab he has an epiphany and realises he's become the thing he hates the most. It's a great scene. Visually his mask is damaged and he becomes human from the metal monster he was before. Bruce watched his mother being shot in the face. The trauma never left him.
The sound and music design as well as the cinematography just makes this movie so freaking good. Idc what anyone says I love this movie and it's in my top 15 for sure
I always get a kick out of people watching this for the first time and realizing the mainstream media lied to them, this flick is epic 👍👍
It's not just the mainstream media. There are a ton of movie goers who have perpetuated this lie and jumped on the hate bandwagon. There have been some genuine duds for me, but there have been in the MCU as well.
I wasn't aware the "mainstream media" was lying about DCEU quality. I seem to recall the FANBASE being the ones who often hated this movie. I thought the movie was fine, but there were plenty of DC fans who felt otherwise. Oh sure, NOW that there was a Snyder cut of the Justice League movie, now it seems like everyone wants that Snyderverse, but there was plenty of hate going around for Snyder's movies prior to that.
That being said, my interest in the DCEU has waned since this movie. There are several movies now that I still haven't seen because I never quite get around to watching them. Aquaman was the last one I watched in the theater. If we get around to Man of Steel 2 with Cavill, I'll probably come back for that at least.
Site like its his first time...haha
except for the martha scene. just insanely cheesy
@@fong03 So people not liking something makes them liars, because you liked it? That's a mature worldview, if there ever was one.
the point of batman in this movie is that he has been batman for 20 years and has lost his way. so with things like the branding is a sort of indirect way of killing people, where prisoners see the bat brand on someone that must have done something bad enough for batman to brand him, they kill them
Wrong. He only brands people to warn them. It’s LEX LUTHOR who orchestrates the death of the prison inmates who carry the brand. Something this version makes clear.
@@thomaskilroy4573 all we know is that lex had that specific inmate killed. we see news articles in the movie that say it is a bigger deal than something lex can do by himself
@@thomaskilroy4573 it has been going on for a while tho. Even if Lex is the one orchestrating the killings, Batman would be quite aware that the people he brands end up getting killed in prison
@@thatfalcon See, none of those News Articles ever make the mention that any of those inmates with the brand have been killed. The only thing we see is that the brand “attracts violence”. Now that is definitely something that would a darker Batman would be fine with. Human Traffickers and Peadophiles with the Bat-Brand are of course going to get beatings. That’s fine. It is ONLY the direct Luthor orchestrated assassination of that specific inmate that we see. That is the ONLY killing of a Bat-Branded prisoner we are ever shown or given any hint towards. It is clear that Batman has turned much darker in this film. However, people keep making the mistake that he is directly attempting to kill people. He isn’t. He NEVER actually tries to kill anyone. He isn’t deliberately breaking his rule. He just doesn’t care anymore. If criminals get caught in the crossfire or they don’t move out the way of the Batmobile fast enough then that’s on them. The first REAL direct murder he attempts is Superman himself. That’s the point. And yes, people always bring up the Knightmare scene but they keep forgetting, it’s a KNIGHTMARE! At that point it’s just a terrible dream of what may come. And even if it’s a premonition of the future, it’s a future where everything and everyone has been broken and the fate of the entire Multiverse is on the brink. Even then, it’s a future that would have been rewritten and changed anyway.
@@DAREDEVIL-MANWITHOUTFEAR No. The person we see get killed is the only person we see killed because of the Bat-Brand. The rest of the times it’s merely violence that the Brand instills. Beatings from other inmates. That’s hardly something Batman would be against. Especially when it comes to criminals like human traffickers and peadophiles that he branded. They get violently attacked in prison, but they don’t get killed. The Luthor orchestrated killing is the only killing we are shown as having happened.
Wonder Woman is actually one of the few people who can keep up with Superman in dc comics. She’s easily the second most powerful member of the justice league
Green lantern has beaten her and is more powerful same with Martian manhunter and black Adam could give her a run for her money, she's fucking powerfull ill give u that but she's no where near the second most powerful justice league member. In fact in dc comics superman isn't even number second most powerful there are beings like doctor fate who are a little bit above him when it comes to power
@@hristokirev7300 She destroyed Martian manhunter while blindfolded. And she also wrecked Hal Jordan, breaking his constructs easily. And for dr fate, Superman and WW are well above him. Dr fate has lost to black Adam who lost to WW, and has stalemated the specter which both supes and ww have proven they are above. Superman is easily the first most powerful member and with Diana’s feats, she easily gets the second spot.
@@ev7ee318 green lantern beat general zod who was amped by two yellow suns and one shot wonder woman, green lantern one shot wonder woman in virtue and virtue and in Injustice Martian manhunter went inside and cut was cutting out wonder woman's oxygen supply hadn't superman intervened she would've joined shazam and green arrow. Also in Injustice captain Atom exploded and nearly killed wonder woman it took a deal with Ares (I'm not sure it was something like that) to wake her up. Green lantern has also beaten a rogue guardian Krona and darkseid (but lets be honest every person in the justice league has beaten darkseid on their own at least once). So green lantern also has amazing feats that say otherwise. Oh and doctor doon broke the forth wall in "The Flash". Oh and I'm in no way calling you a lier or anything but if you're gonna present feats say what comic they're from otherwise how would I know if you're bullshitting. I haven't read all the comics lol, I could easily say trigon mouth fucked zatanna and you would never know whether or not it happened cause u haven't seen the comic therefore u don't know whether is exists or not🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hristokirev7300 Injustice god among us-WW fought Superman and won even after Superman said he wasn’t gonna hold back twice.
Wonder Woman 219- Superman was made to see WW as doomsday who killed Lois and we all know how Supes gets when Lois get killed (injustice series) and proceeded to attack her but she still managed to win at the end.
Wonder Woman 212- WW was testing to see if she could still fight with ought seeing so she challenged the flash, Martian manhunter, plastic man, and others to fight her while blindfolded. Ofc she was wrecking them all to the point where Batman had to make it harder by removing her hearing and yet she still soloed them all.
Jla 88-89- As I said previously she defeated plastic man which is important bc plastic man was able to keep up with fernus who is arguably martian hunters strongest form.
Wonder Woman 214- WW defeated Dr zoom while blindfolded
Wonder Woman 758- WW overpowers the phantom stranger who is equal to the Specter
Immortal Wonder Woman 2- WW resisted the undoing who erased the specter and all of Dc creation. Toward the end of that comic Wonder Woman recreates DC by clashing her bracelets
@@ev7ee318 thank you! people always trying to downplay WW abilities,😤 especially with the new black Adam movie out saying black Adam can beat her I'm like lmao *no*
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I'm so glad you're enjoying these DC movies. I will definitely be waiting for your WW reaction. You will also enjoy the Snydercut as well.
Legzo Seb . YOU MADE ME SO HAPPY!!!
Ever since that film, I have the Wonder Woman theme as the dedicated ringtone for when my wife calls me. ❤😁
The dream sequence is a set up for the Injustice: Gods Among Us games.
Edit: The original Batman did kill and use guns.
The reason why the prisoners kill those with the Bat Brand is because Lex pays them to as a means of having Clark investigate and hate Batman's brutality. However, prior to this being revealed, it would make sense had Lex not paid them, as Batman has highlighted them as the worst of the worst. Much like how pedophiles are often beaten or killed in prison in real life, some of the prisoners in a complex frown upon such disgusting crimes and deal out their own sense of justice.
Anyways, thoroughly enjoyed your reaction as usual! Can't wait for you to get to the Snydercut!
Lmfao the way he’s so baffled from wonder womans strength 😂😂
Ong like she’s a literal goddess 😭
I've now seen a few videos of reviewers watching MOS, BVS and ZSJL and having their minds blown! Having been told they all sucked. So good to see them now seeing the films and fgully appreciating the brilliance of them. BVS is a heroic masterpiece. Yes WB cut story out for the theatrical and messed with it, which was just a warm up for the messing they did with JL.
These films have a raw maturity and power to them, with sever consequences to the story telling.
I saw the theatrical version but the biggest audience cheer came from Wonder Woman and that cello riff. I was like hell yes! 80 year old character finally in the silver screen.
That was the best part to watch at the cinema!
@@Mike90317 Absolutely! Comic fans rejoiced and general audiences were stunned.
well to be fair there was a television show you act like no one but you guys knew who she was but every one did.
@@daveross1638 Nobody acted like that. I said silver screen. She was finally on the big screen and people were excited for it. Those were my words. Don’t change them into something else. Batman and Superman have been on the big screen more than a dozen times combined and we finally got her. Stop.
@@daveross1638 WUT? No, we haven't said that.
Batmans reaction to "Martha" is actually a realization, that Clark has a mother, hes more human than Bruce thought. And he thinks, if he has a mother, than he has feelings, and he's more like a human than an alien, who is just killing.
No, Louis had to tell him that it's his mother's name after he already freaked out about it
@@Zen17h But Batman realizes after Lois tells him, that it's Clarks mother's name. "Why did you say that name?!" He doesen't know who Martha is untill Lois sais it.
5:28 Dude, that's every DC fan's thoughts exactly! 😂
Man, this reaction reminded me once more how damn good of a Superhero movie BvS actually is (especially the extended version). Still believing DC rushed things and would be better off starting with solo movies (at least, with a solo Batfleck movie before BvS). However, this one still has everything a fan can enjoy, including a decent plot, character motivations, charismatic villain and an imposing atmosphere. Yep, I'm well aware Superman and Luthor are very different from their classic comic versions. However, Snyder's unorthodox, darker approach to them still deserves lots of respect.
The theatrical cut had 30 mim less of motivation for Superman to fight Batman. All of his scenes as Clark Kent going to gotham and investigating about him were cut. So when the final fight arrives, it seems like they have poorly written motivations to be fighting. That's why it's worse.
It's funny how years after it's release, people are only now realising how good this movie is. It's aged like fine wine.
I think seeing the road marvel has been headed down has helped a lot, it's extremely refreshing to watch a superhero movie that actually takes itself seriously and doesn't try to crack jokes every 4 sentences. When it first came out the MCU was arguably in it's golden age so the comparisons and criticism were far more harsh
I never understood the hate
@@HellBent_ it didn’t help it released alongside Civil War, which had a much better emotional connection between the conflict since we had been invested in those characters for years.
@@user-jt1js5mr3f Mhm exactly, Civil war was also a lot more easily digestible and had far superior (imo) special effects. Also didn't help that the theatrical cut which was released along side civil war had glaring issues that weren't fixed until after the fact, so peoples opinion of bvs was already soured
@@HellBent_ agreed
I know that this didn't meet people's expectations for what they wanted a Batman v Superman movie, but this is honestly one of my favorite DCU movies! I remember seeing this in theaters and I loved it! Sure Affleck isn't your comic Batman but I like him!
He actually is very comic accurate just depends what book you're speaking off.
@@LouiePizzle fair enough lol. To be fair Batman has almost been around 100 years. Which that is mindblowing to think about!
Batfleck is more of a gaming Arkham verse type of guy and a perfect movie Batman for hardcore fans. Superman is made great in my opinion too as well. WB just completely misunderstood Snyder's true vision that would've overtaken Endgame itself. Despite the haters and critics.
@@danielkeller1337 Batfleck is inspired by Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns.
G'day it's Steven from Down Under again
Great reaction indeed, honest and genuine.
The extended version does this film justice and shares the director's full vision.
It's gritty and real, there's no childish humour or nonsense to appeal to youngsters, and there's no doubt this would appeal to an older audience demographic.
I have to admit as a very long term Superman fan I did feel verklempt watching the greatest superhero known to mankind lose his life in this film, and damn it Henry is a handsome devil.
A seriously underrated movie.
It’s brilliant and it’s great to see a marvel fan actually appreciating how good it is. Loved your reaction to it. Zack Snyder is the man. Don’t watch the the theatrical release of justice league, dive in to Zack Snyder’s 4 hr cut. It’s incredible.
Such an awesome movie!! In theaters it was epic! I have to admit I originally wasn’t interested in Wonder Woman (movie) but I saw it years later and it’s one of my favorite!! Gal is SO amazing as Wonder Woman! Truly one of the best movies of the series in my opinion. Also, any dream sequences that u see someone or an alien or whatever that makes no sense , it will as you continue. Great reaction.
Lol this movie is such a fever dream to me bc my whole summer camp group saw it theaters when I was in sixth grade - strange experience to say the least 😂
Except it wasn't, it just felt completely chaotic bc the theatre cut litteraly removed all the parts that made the movie make sense.
Litteraly like over 30min of footage cut. Insane
@@greyscalesx the uncut version is still bad. There is a reason snyder is at netflix.
For me it will always be a masterpiece and wrongly denied it’s true life in all the movies that were planned
This particular Batman is older than most other depictions and is clearly based on The Dark Knight Returns version (the comic book not the movie trilogy) where he's older and doesn't give criminals a chance at all, he'll break their arms, give them concussions etc as long as they are no longer a threat he'll do it. His normal suirt aswell as the armoured suit in this, some of his poses/shots in the Doomsday fight and his tank in Justice League are all from the comics too
Don't know if you figured it out but Lex paid the inmates to kill people with the brand to make a villain out of Batman to paint a target for Superman
Wonder Woman is actually incredibly powerful!
The Ultimate cut just fleshed out Clarks scenes and also gave more context to everything - BOTH are amazing, but the ultimate cut is Incredible.
I wish you could have seen this in the theaters. The moment Wonder Woman appeared and blocked that blast from Doomsday and that theme music started, the entire theater erupted with cheers, and people even stood up screaming in the theater I was in. It was the most epic thing I think I have ever seen in a movie.
31:20 the Ezra jokes had me dying of laughter 😭
I'd die whenever he'd pop up on screen 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Sometimes I forget Seb doesn’t have like 5 million subscribers. It just feels like he should.
Also the Martha scene is Bruce thinks it’s a trick at first bringing back his ptsd but he realises in his dying moments he’s pleading for his human mother’s life, he realises wat he is doing here and his redemption arc begins and then ends at the end of the movie
The Martha scene reminds batman that he fights for the innocent and also reminds him the whole reason he became the batman.lastly it makes clear for barman that clark may not be a biological human but he has the ideals of one
Fun detail, when Bruce wakes up after the Flash appears in the portal, you see him catching his breath in the Cave in the background, there's a paper fluttering around right behind him. The portal was actually, physically there in the Cave, not just a dream. Also, during each of his dreams, you hear the drone of the World Engine in the background. Bruce is still haunted by the Black Zero event in Metropolis.
wonderwoman is about as powerful as superman, maybe not without her equipment, but she really stands a chance at taking him down if she wanted to!
She probably can without her bracelets
I've seen a couple of TH-camrs watch and review these early DC films for the first time, and like them🙌🏽. It's really cathartic and pleasing to see other people not take the main media, or Rotten tomatoes, at their word. I've heard so many people talk crap of Zack's DC movies and then say they've never actually seen them....
The warehouse scene is the most badass Batman thing in film. I'm pretty sure the dream sequence was teasing Injustice
Zack Snyder + Henry Cavill + Hans Zimmer = MY SUPERMAN.
MY Emblem of Hope.
Yes, this Batman is very different from the ones presented onscreen before. This Batman is old, cynical, and exhausted. The Joker has killed Robin in this timeline, and Batman has grown increasingly violent and remorseless in that time. Now, with Superman having arrived on Earth, he's considered obsolete. All these factors have combined to produce a more brooding and disconnected Batman who's disregarded all his old rules after feeling they've failed him. He didn't expect to still be fighting crime as Batman 20 years later. He's re-assessed his methods, and now believes he'll never win his war on crime unless he becomes as brutal as the criminals he seeks to oppose. It's a very broken, hollow Bruce Wayne we're given in this film.
When Bruce said" I understand",Clark thought Bruce knows his mom was taken but still choose to fight Clark,that is the reason why Clark pushed him immediately.
It is well known that in the case of a rogue superman, wonder woman is the only one that can have a chance to stop him (in physical strength)
"you just can't fight Superman"
Don't tell the Batman stans that
Officially, Bruce Wayne had four adopted children: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Timothy Drake, Cassandra Cain, and one biological child (whom he didn't know about for over 10 years) Damian Wayne. In another universe, he had a daughter, Helena Wayne of the Catwomen, but then only Dick was with her and the rest were not as his children.
31:50 The "DCEU Snyderverse" would have given us both team up movies and solo movies, it was all planned out until the warner bros suits changed the plans. Even Cyborg would have gotten his solo after Justice League 1.
Wb fucks up everything. Actually it's our fault we hated Snyders works at beginning. There are till now critics for the films. But WB has to listen to us fans .
The main things they cut out where the parts that made Lex's plan make sense, and the parts where Clark and Lois are investigating. It's amazing how if you cut a little bit of detail and the rest of the movie suffers
The SNYDER CUT IS FCKN AWESOME
Such a great movie! The Snyder cut is so epic. Zack Snyder is king of visuals.
Absolutely concur 👍
Great video, Batmam in this is a 20 year vet of being Batman. Going through all the horrible things that come with being Batman. Loss of robin, other heroes. This Batman wasnt always a killer. He became war weary and clearly realized "criminals like weeds" so he adopted killing some of the criminals he fights. He doesn't kill everyone. Just those in his immediate way to be eliminated.
However we see bruces motivations towards superman change. It wasnt until the "Martha scene" Lois showed Bruce that clark is more human and they are more alike than they thought. It humanized clark to Bruce. It wasnt just that their moms had the same name. But its a symbolic way to say they are almost like brothers, and made bruce see hes gone too far. He became what he always fought against. When he was holding the spear to clarks throat. He became like the mugger who killed bruces parents.
Thats why it seems bruce had such a quick change of heart. He realized he fucked up. Hence like you said it was like a redemption are for bruce to save clarks mom. Not only to make up to Clark. Bur to redeem himself. Whem he couldn't save his own mother as a boy. So saving clarks mom to bruce was making 2 rights. 1 to clark and himself.
By the end Bruce claims how he failed him in life. This is bruce showing he isn't going to be the murderess Batmam hes been. He has to be better. Like superman. Which means no more guns. At least on people anyways. But this Batman mainly now uses guns as a tool, last resort. Or if there in apocalypse world. Which in apocalypse world, Im cool with Batman using guns. He has to eliminate threats, defend himself and others in a war
I will always support these positive movie TH-camrs. There are so many thats just uploading hate videos all the time, its sad.
There are a few of you that are watching this for the first time… like seriously WTF we needed you tickets YEARS AGO. I’m glad you all liked it and see that it was at a completely different level than Marvel. Enjoy
Thr Martha scene is great. He doesn't stop attacking Superman because of the mother's name, but because Martha was a trigger word for his PTSD. When a PTSD person hears or sees their trigger they freak out to some degree. Lois being there was the anchor he needed to be bought down from his freakout.
It’s because he realises in that moment that HE has become the villain of the story. The Gunman in the alley. He has become the thing he has fought against for 20 years. He has become the killer of his mother. The kryptonite spear is the gun and Superman is the younger Bruce. By killing him, he would be killing the last remaining part of his humanity. The only part of him that’s still a hero. That’s why Superman’s ultimate sacrifice means so much. When he restores Bruce’s faith in mankind. Despite the title, the real purpose of this film is to show that…in the end, Superman ends up saving Batman…from himself.
Love this. An actual engaged audience member who is able to critically think! Bravo. BvS UE is a master piece.
First time all 3 of these characters shared time on the big screen in live action so it had really high expectations from the fans and the way they promoted the trailers is probably what made this not a big hit
Great reaction, Seb !
I really liked what you said at the end. That you didnt care if people loved it or hated it.
Most important thing is what u think.
Never let anyone tell u, what u should think about a movie
13:45 One of the Robins is his actual kid.
My favourite part that isn't talked about a lot is that Superman saves Lex from Doomsday's fist, implying that he would have saved him from his father as well.
I don't know if you noticed the ending right before the credits roll, dirt on Clark's coffin started rising into the air which was a small neat detail! So many things this movie has and sad to see the hate for it. This movie is art.
He is officially dead though in the Justice League, otherwise how would Darkseid not learn where all the mother boxes are. Plus his movies are based on how it works in real life. Not none of that Death of Superman, having multiple different Superman take up the mantle, have the original return in the black suit and continue fighting the good fight. It doesn't work like that in Snyder's universe.
@@danielkeller1337 No yes, he is dead. But the dirt slowly rising was a hint to his return in the Syndercut and JL. Darkseid learnt of Supes death through him screaming when he went through Doomsday with the kyrptonite spear. Like Lex says "The bells been rung, the God is dead...he's coming.." and we see this in the Snydercut with Superman's cries going across the world through Atlantis and Themyscira and awakening the boxes.
That shot with Batman and the lightning as he ran from Doomsday is straight out of the Dark Knight Comic. He was not fighting Doomsday but it is right off the page.
The main difference between the Ultimate Edition and the theatrical version is that the theatrical version cut out so much necessary plot advancement that Lex's plan really doesn't make sense in that cut. The same big scenes and moments are still there, but the story being told in-between doesn't connect it all together very well. Too much exposition was removed from it, in other words.
That " even if there's 1% chance ... " Line is taken from Dick Cheney 's speech. The black zero event is seen as 9/11 here, so everyone's response to it is very similar aswell.
The dialogues on this movie are straight up 🔥🔥🔥. Watched it 5 times
The problem with the theatrical cut was that the studio forced a lot of edits. The awesome Doomsday thing felt much more tacked on to start, as if to fill out the rest of the third act. Plenty of other epic ass moments felt unearned because of this. By fleshing out the story further, instead of cutting it down, you naturally make the audience care more. That’s what was missing the first time around in my opinion.
P.S. Please do a video on the Snyder Cut. It’s a very good direct sequel to this.
Not only is Thomas Wayne Negan, but Martha Wayne is also played by Maggie.
"does Batman have kids" in the comics and animated movies he has a kid named Damian Wayne
Bruce has a son called Damien in the comics, his mother is Talia Al Ghul.
8:40 Talking about gym motivation, goddamn Cbum over here
Jesus 🔥🥵
Bro you got the musckles too!
Lex Luthor once cured his sister’s cancer and then gave it back to her. His reasoning was “Lex giveth and Lex taketh away”. He only agreed to cure her again if Superboy brought him Superman’s head. That’s who he is.
Yes I like this Lex Luther and I like his depiction on that painting and about supermans special woman is his mother also I love when flash showed up cause he did a flash point which is time travel it sucks that there is something wrong with that actor though by a lot
39:33 basically everytime he dies like with the nuke for example, he comes back immune to it. So this part was him now being immune to the nukes
DO NOT WATCH 2017 JUSTICE LEAGUE, WATCH 2021 JUSTICE LEAGUE
"And now God bends to _my_ will"
This movie had problems but man did that line give me goosebumps
One of the most underrated and misunderstood movies. The ultimate edition is far superior to the original and a definitive masterpiece. It has a couple flaws (the "Martha" scene) but it really truly has the best team set up. Wonder Woman's entrance is epic.
Batman Vs superman is a deconstruction movie, it's shows how batman has lost his way,He believes that he has to kill people to save others, which started after the Joker killed robin, and also after so many years of being Batman and the never ending crime in Gotham, he has lost his way. Other small things that I love about the movie is 1)@15:33 the day of the dead scene, when superman rescues a child from a burning building, you see him surrounded by people with the day of the dead face paint, you can see that superman is a bit uncomfortable, because it reminds him of the scene where he was buried in skulls when he was talking to zod in man of steel.
2) doomsday zod killed superman the same way zod killed jor-el in man of steel.
3) Bruce wasn't training so he could beat superman, he was training so that he could be strong enough to be able to move around in the armoured suit.26:12
4) you find clips of the end fight in man of steel and the starting scene in Bvs and see how it matches up perfectly. When zod lost control of the heat vision, he was in Wayne towers,the same building which Bruce was running towards.
I love how people lie to themselves and try to convince themselves that this movie was good.
Objectively, from a cinematic standpoint, it is very good. Plot wise, its alright and confusing sometimes. But the camera shots, the world building, the music, the outfits, etc are very well done. Its just the plot
Btw that actually wasn’t any padding in Cavill’s or Affleck’s suit that actually was all them selves
i remember going to the premiere with my mates, and they were blown away by this movie, talked about it for hours, then, a week later they were trashing it because "the reviews online said it was bad". I think that was probably why this film was treated so badly. A group of assholes online trying to influence the opinion of others plus people with hivemind like thinking.
Yup. BvS. One of the films I hold close to my heart.
Dude negan and maggie are batmans parents
I swear I love your vibe doing comments about Henry it's just amazing hahaha
Can't wait for the Zack Snyder's justice league reaction
That moment when you opened TH-cam and saw Seb just posted a new vídeo.🧡💙💜
You NEED TO WATCH WONDER WOMAN!!!
ITS AMAZING!!!
I love how batman is very physically behind from all the other superheros but its his plans and his will that makes him one of the most dangerous
You managed to pinpoint EXACTLY why the original cut sucked. All of your complaints about this cut were there in the original, and it lacked important scenes.
This movie still doesn't really fix it, but it is way better.
Something cool I noticed is at the end when the guard calls Lex Luthor’s prison number at 45:07 he says “Prisoner AC 23 1940” which is a reference to Action Comics #23 from 1940 and is the first appearance of Lex Luther in the comics.
Ultimate edition 👌
42:07 is my favorite shot from the movie. I love her playful smile. 😅
the reason batman kills in this movie because he is old and traumatised by being batman for 40 years he dont care anymore
The hate this movie gets is literally criminal. If people put aside their expectations of spot-on comic book accuracy and yearnings of a feel-good movie, and replace it with appreciation of a story-driven epic, you will seriously see how great this movie is
Only watch Zack Snyders Justice League. Do not watch the theatrical monstrosity that is the “Josstice” League
One of my favorite DC Films of all time, really glad you enjoyed it brother!
Please watch the far superior legendary DCAU (DC Animated Universe) which is comprised of Batman the Animated Series, Superman the Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. They are some of the best superhero and animated content of all time and you really missing out.
Damn dude, your back is better than alright! For the record, I’ve heard that Cavill is one of the few superhero actors this size who isn’t juicing, and it gives him a ridiculously aesthetic farmboy bod. Funny, almost like…that’s what he’s supposed to look like in the first place… 🤔
I really like this movie. Honestly, for a movie called Batman vs Superman, i have to say Wonder Woman stole the show! 😅 I still think Wonder Woman and Zack Snyder's justice league r the best DC movies so far. I CAN'T WAIT FOR U TO WATCH WONDER WOMAN! My goosebumps get goosebumps everytime I watch it.
This went much faster then I suspected.
Batman was a complete badass in this movie.
Ben Affleck's acting skills has gotten so much better through the years.
Honestly i watched the original cut in theaters and i loved it, the ultimate edition is also amazing.