Xbox Expansion Card vs. SSD vs. HDD - Best Value Memory Option
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2020
- Is the $220 expansion card for Xbox Series X/S the only best option for performance?
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I might sound old here, but I think 20 minutes move time and an extra 10 seconds loading sounds perfectly fine to me to save 100 bucks. These storage expansions cost almost as much as the series s I just bought...
but expansion stirage dont need to transfer it can direct play
Yeah I got the series s and it's 99.3 percent full though
I need a bigger card than 1TB
@@forgottens7712 facts only 350gb of usable storage is cancer
I 100% agree
One major point he did not make in this video is if you buy a third party SSD it will NOT run Series X or S optimized games. That can only be done with the internal hard drive and the Seagate Microsoft expandable hard drive.
Thanks bro you answered my Question. This idiot didn’t even truly review those products because I brought 12tb wd Xbox external hard drive and found that out I spent 220 on eBay for it
PS third party SSD/HDD can SAVE Series X/S games for copying to internal later but CANNOT run the games.
@@LenovoLOQ1x12GB but it takes 2 minutes to move 50gb game from ssd to the console
Hey man don’t mean to bother you 4 months later but would a later xbox sea gate model work for this such as a version that is advertised as an xbox one version?
Actually, quite a few of the optimised games work fine, even running from an external HDD. For instance, Halo MCC, Ori, Rocket League, Desperados 3 all work fine from my collection. I'm sure there are more as well.
You get the visual and frame rate enhancements, and can use quick resume, just not the loading time boosts.
Only a select handful of games don't work at all externally, and need to be transferred when required. Examples of these are The Medium and Forza Horizon 4.
We're living in a 4-8TB digital world
Xbox: Gotcha, here's 1TB for $220
PS5: You can't even use the option, I said NO!
What do you want exactly?! It's a NVMe Gen 4 1TB proprietary SSD that matchs the exact speed of the internal drive! Phison chips are expensive as hell.
@@zakixbox I want companies to stop squeezing every penny out of me for tech that's now over 43 years old, I also want a viable solution day one and not what somebody seems fit at 1TB when that wasn't even enough for the last 2 console/PC generations, it was $1000 for 64MB in 1991 and now 30 years later with all the advances in tech we're barely above 4TB and it costs $729, how is this fair for all these years, I know companies need to make money but at least with a HDD the price dropped eventually, SSD has a couple of players and they're all slowpoking on purpose IMO, this has got to be the only piece of tech that never losses it value ever, it took almost 20 years to get a 1TB at $100 and even that has to be on sale to be that cheap or used cause it's still $139 new, name some other tech today who's price range never changes no matter the size or competition
@The AGP Cartoon Show not free, options and at a reasonable price and size
id be fine if they made it cheaper, id say $100 because i dont want to spend more than $500 on a console that isnt even 4k and a drive
@@Nomi07 that's the dream
The speed test start at 5:03
Thanks
Thank the maker
MVP
It would take me hours to install a game that size
@@citrus55 he’s not fully installing them, just moving them between different storages which doesn’t use internet
I have a 2tb segate drive, What I plan on doing and recommend to others is have every game you know has a series x upgrade on series x internal and some even if they don’t that you want to look and perform better, Every other game just put on the 2tb and if one of those happen to get a series x|s upgrade just switch it to internal and if you have no more storage go ahead and transfer the least played one to external
That’s exactly what I’m gonna do. You can’t beat the 60 bucks for 2tb.
How does it work? Doesnt slow down the series x?
@@eddieortiz873 no so basically you can offload all your optimized series s|x games on an external hard drive and then when ever you want to play it, move it to the internal drive and it takes 2 minutes
I have a 4tb external seagate drive and yes i had to move cold war, mk11, subnautica, star wars fallen, and dead by deadlight to the internal storage
@@gorillapods9993 I just re installed every series x game into internal and put every thing else external
Yes, velociraptor speed
You missed the most value point. expansion memory can play series x games
@@quentinjulien7441 I know right and he didn't mention the expansion card is an SSD that is the same as the internal SSD and is utilized with the velocity architecture. You can't play Series games off an external SSD or mechanical hard drive. You can only play backwards compatible games off of them. Also you ain't buying a 2 TB external SSD with the read/write speed of the Expansion or internal SSD for $200
@@krissynjeremy he actually did though.
NOICE!!
Hahahahaha why did I not see this comment sooner
Velociraptor. Is that an upgraded version of the velocity architecture?
In a nutshell, get the expansion card if you want to play Series X or Series X Optimized games from it (you can also copy games to the internal drive). Get an external SSD for all previous gen games. You'll still get some speed benefit by running your previous gen and older games off an external SSD.
Get an external hdd not ssd no point paying double for menu loading on last gen games
@@dgma626 youre also limited the usb bus speed with external storage so not really a need to shill for a high speed drive for that reason also
@@dgma626 Actually that’s incorrect. The One X with an external SSD improves loading times significantly compared to the HDD as it’s USB 3.1. Not sure how the One/One S would fair but the X definitely sees an improvement. There’s a reason why people are now SSD swapping One X’s.
Hi I need a bit of help. I have the WD passport ssd and it is recognised by my PC but not by my Xbox.
The Xbox recognises other driver but not this one. I’ve tried different cables, formatting it to NTFS but it won’t recognise it at all. Any help would be appreciated.
I have a Series S with the 2TB Seagate Game Drive. The complaint about the 20+ minutes data transfer does not really matter, you can still play other games in the meantime, not like last gen, where you had to sit and wait.
I use my HDD just for One/360 games, or for games that I don't play that often. The ingame loading time is the only thing that bothers me to play games direct from the HDD.
For an Xbox Series S;
Gonna go the 2TB Samsung T5 SSD. About the same price as the 1TB Xbox external.
Or if I’m on a budget, the 1TB Samsung T5 SSD for about half the price.
i got the 1tb t7 and have been loving it
@@JohnSmith-of8um I just got a T7 and I hate it! It doesn't support any of the optimised games which most of mine are.
@@realgroovy24 You did'nt understand what you were buying then.... for one it supports a good number of "xbox series x/s games" I know this for a fact, second, its going to support the same number of x/s games as any other hard drive, you have to buy the xbox expansion card to download all the optimized games rather then some of them. Im sure theres lists online saying what games will and wont work on any external drive
@@JohnSmith-of8um I ended up swapping it for the expansion card
Games that were made for Xbox one but got enhance updates for the Xbox series x are you able to use those enhance games on the HDD or SSD?
Kind of a specific question: If I connect an external USB storage with installed Xbox One games to a Series X, will the console recognize the version and download the X Enhanced patch automatically or do I need to reinstall games like Gears 5 or the Master Chief Collection from scratch?
Love the expansion card!! Just wish it was a 2TB. Also have a 5TB WD HDD that’s full. They can’t make them big enough.
remove some stuff, jeeez
Are you playing Warzone 2? I’ve heard it takes up 4.5TB of storage, but if you use it with Modern Warfare 5, it takes up 6TB. Maybe that’s why your HDD and your Expansion Card is full. Oh well
@@V1Salvo no where near that much, thankfully. Around 200gb for the last couple of games, but some are less than 100gb with a couple below 10. I got like 300+ games and with Game pass coming around, I’ll have to be doing a lot of deleting and reinstalling unless I buy a new SSD, which is what I plan on doing. Digital Foundry did a whole video on the best SSD’s for Series X. Some rival Microsoft’s own expansion module, just with the caveat that some functions won’t work. Just would like the faster storage option.
You don't need 2tb of fast ssd storage just get a hard drive and keep the games you want to play on the internal ssd
@@mash2481 And how many do u pl, I have 63 on a 2TB
Did you happen to play Cyberpunk from HDD? I'm just wondering that in PC I encountered asset streaming problems when driving car fast from 2xWD raid0 HDD's. I moved my game install to SSD and all problems vanished. Just curious if Xbox suffers from same issues.
wait can I play games on my hard drive if it is not a series s or x game. I have an Xbox one s will games play straight off the hard drive or do I need to transfer it into the Xbox and play the games. sorry for so many questions I am just confused
will they make a usb adamter of the card so we can plug external hard drive to extended storage bay
Only the new games made specifically for the Series X/S require the specific type of NVME. Any xbox one or 360 games can be stored on an external SSD and still work fine. My biggest request is MS to install legacy games to external and only new to internal.
just got the SSD expansion card for Series X. amazing love it!
I love that expansion card that Microsoft/seagate made super simple and easy to expand the storage on the X/S. I hope they make bigger version of it in the future(2tb or 3tb)
Hopefully cheaper
There will be different storage options later. Microsoft also said that other manufacturers will be able to make cards as well later which means we will likely see the price go down in a few years
The price for 3tb would be very expensive
@@louiescott4316 for now. It'll get much MUUUUCHHH cheaper throughout the generation.
Yeah, It really bugged me that you have to open up the entire ps5 to replace the ssd. And getting the right one that will actually run the games, is kinda confusing.
You can't just get any ol ssd for the ps5, even if it fits. So I like that we have these simple ones that are plug and play for my series x.
Does the segate stjw 500 gb works as a ssd on the xbox,not like the expansion card one ,i mean like the external ssd?
New to this, trying to find extra storage for Xbox series S that would allow you to play the games loaded onto it or would you need to transfer the game each time to the consoles storage to play the games? Please help...
The start or transfer of games isn't really an issue for me.
Problematic is the performance overall while running on other ssds than the memory card.
Would I see some differences for play r6/forzha like in game is the ssd is quicker?
My seagate does not want to work on my series x I used it for the one but the lights does not turn on with the series x is it cause it linked to my old Xbox?
My question is I have a samsung 2 terabyte hooked up to my x box seriesx if I get the seagate expansion 1 terabyte card can I two devices going on at the same time hooked up to x box series x ?
Can I use both internal SSD and external drive the same time?
Can I use an external HDD if it's only a 3.0 USB?
All I want to do is store my games on it not play them from it.
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Question, I have have a Series X and it’s day 3 for me because I got it this week on Tuesday evening and is it worth if getting on Amazon, because idk If I need because I have upgrade some of my games in the internal drive inside it’s self in the console
The speed test was most helpful part of this video for me! Thanks.
Do you know if theyre going to sell more type of that kind of expansión cards, at a shipest cost?? Sorry my english is Bad
The process to move the data back and forth doesn't wear the internal ssd? I mean, the internal ssd should have a number of terabytes written lifespan right? So copying the data could reach that capacity faster.
Your xbox series x internal ssd will probably outlive the xbox series x life span so don't worry
Cam you play a game through the external SSD or do you have to move it to the Series S to play it?
Nice job man, nice video. Helped me out big time
I think the expansion card is my pick it has excellent speed.
right now is not the time to buy this, I don't even have my main ssd 60% full yet. I'll get a 2TB expansion card when they come out.
How big is your SSD? I’ve been on the fence with a HDD but I honestly don’t need 2TB, I don’t really replay games once beat them /: lol
Your time tests completely answered my question. Thank you.
Can you play series s/X games off a SSD hard drive or is that only good for moving back and forth?
Tahnk you so much it helped me very much knowing the differents between hdd and SSD and choosing between them.
Which ones of these will allow series x games to be played on?
Question, probably a stupid one; but if I only have 1 game installed in the internal Xbox series x SSD, would a seagate Xbox expansion memory card be beneficial any? Or would be a waste of money?
I only really play 1 game 99% of the time (The Division 2) & I’ll keep 3 or 4 other games my son & others play on an external usb device.
I'm wondering if the next XBox would have the same expansion bay(s) because if I spend a few hundred on one of these expansion cards, I want to be able to continue to use this.
What is the read speed on USB SSD vs USB HDD
Atm my current usb HDD has a read speed of 1000mbps / 125MB/s
Have you seen the ssd mod for the expandable storage you can use any m.2
I saw that you can transfer games from the console to the ssd faster but can you download games from online faster?
dOES THE SSD SUPPORT XS GAMING ON HIGH RES 120HZ? I HEARD IT DOWNGRADES THE GAMES IF LOADED FROM SSD?
Can you play games directly off of the Microsoft SSD for $220 ? Or if you transfer a game to it do you have to transfer it back to the Xbox to play it ?
Probably the best comparison i've seen, thank you so much.
Can you still use quicker zone if you use an external SSD?
Can you run multiple hard drives
I'm thinking about getting the xbox series s but I need to know if the HDD storage expansion would work with it?
The HDD will work with any xbox after the One.
I wonder how the WD D10 would compare.
I needed this today.. Just got the series S.. Maxed out the memory in 4 games
Which games did max out for? And how big each were ?
COD WZ.. COD Cold War .. PUBG and MLB The Show
Same
Which one did you pick
Same here but buying the 1tb expansion pack doesn’t make any sense because for that money you could have bought a Series X (at least if it would be available). I guess transferring the games to an SSD or HDD does make more sense from a financial standpoint.
They really need cards with a higher storage capacity
Kinda funny how we sort of went back to PS1/PS2 days with "memory cards." :P
But instead of just saves, we store full games.
The price tag is still as premium as ever, though. :P
Back in 2000, we had to pay $34 ($53 in 2021 money) for 8MB.
I bought one of those seagate hard drives for my series and it didn’t work
Like Whodatizz602 said you can't run a next-gen (Series X|S) game directly off any external drive, you have to move it to the internal NVME SSD. but moving entre games from internal to eternal and vice versa is MUCH faster than deleting games and redownloading from Game Pass
Will this work with Xbox backbone? Will the phone have the storage saved on it too? Since the Xbox has all the games downloaded on the storage on it ?
Thank you so much for this vid mate
How do I install the wd my passport version of the card into my series s?
How’s the series s is it good
@@samuelmusa5394 awesome but storage sucks
If it’s a stand alone drive, just plug in to the USB port and it will recognize it.
Seagate is the way to go...👍🏼 I bought mine before I even got my Series X...💯✔
Would the xbox games with the optimised option work on the cheaper ssd
You can store your S|X optimized games on external SSD, but not play from it. This is how I do it right now. Strangely I can run Rocket League (optimized version) from my external SSD. I tried it with AC Valhalla, but it tells me to copy from external to internal.
@@larsschaefer3924 how’s the series s
@@samuelmusa5394 I‘ve bought the Series X and I love it. my brother-in-law owns the Series S. I am very impressed with this little console. I think I like the design a little better than the Series X. He plays on a 1080p Freesync Monitor and I guess this is a fine combo.
Yes. There are listing for larger Xbox expansion cards coming soon. If you’re thinking for a SSD, please avoid the Western Digital 500GB D30. It’s super slow! Get an Samsung T7, fast read and write speeds.
why do you have 2 different audio tracks that sounded so differently
So wait, we can still play the games from our external right??
The fact that u can get a series s for same money as seagate expansion drive which will give u another controller and 500gb is unbelivable. Can i connect series x to series s via home network to connect to its 500gb harddrive? Also would give me a second console to play downstairs
With an external third party ssd can I benefit from the xbox series optimized version?
No. The benefit only applies on the seagate expandable card (the expensive one). Any other ssd (third party) won’t be optimized.
What do you mean by benefit?
Is the external ssd compatible with the series x optomized games
I have one and it's been great having more games I can keep on the faster drive
dam how dose it feel to get a memory card
i wonder if they make skins for them that look like ps2 majicgate or the gamecube memory card
Can you use any SSD on the Series S and X?
What about playing both call of duty games? Can i use a external ssd to play them?
If it's a ps4 game yes not ps5 games
What is that actual point of transferring games from the internal to the expansion card? They both boot series x/s games, so you would literally never need to do that. Is it just to illustrate how fast it COULD be if you spend $220?
You have to still install the upgrade for the game on your hard drive to use the x and s versions btw so yeahyou still have to buy one of these ones if you wanna play your new ones without reinstalling and upgrading it every time
I think this is really meant for the X/S configured games, I noticed when I moved my game to a TB drive that I had that was for X/S that I couldnt play it and had to move it back to my Internal storage to be able to play it.
So only games optimized for series x|s cant be installed on regular external drives? Because I’ve just noticed that problem. You can install regular Xbox games on your external drive and play them but can’t install series x|s optimized games on the drive, you have to install it internally in order to play
@@caydealejandro5991 Yes
From what I understand you can install the Next Gen games on the drive, you just have to move them to the internal storage to play them, correct?
@@Krilldude Yes, I'm guessing that's why they have two different version of the games that are Series X/S optimized.
Um... 1:40 he claims you can use an external drive. This is a half truth. Sure you can download them on that external, but the series x version of games will only launch from the internal or that memory card at the start of the video
Instant Resume also works on cheap external HDD
I don’t know if this is good but I got a 2TB hhd for an Xbox for £60
It was a seagate portable one which wasn’t on offer
Makes your game load time faster?
So the Xbox seagate big one is somehow worse? Idk what to do because I have series s and I want to download more games, so does it let me store more games?
I think it's solely for storage, if you wanted to play a game from your external HD you'll have to copy the files over to your Xbox's internal storage
I have a cheap Seagate SSD 500gb and it just transferred Red Dead redemption 2 to the internal SSD in less then 4 minutes.
@@nothing2see315 damn. Thanks for the help.
@@tylerchase5720 You play Series S/X optimized games on some of the externals tho but they transfer so fast it’s not an issue
I bought a 14TB HDD for storing games and playing old Xbox one and back compat games for about $180 and a $60 500 gb internal ssd with adapter to use for games I want fast loads but don’t need full speeds. Like games that are not enhanced yet
I wonder how an nvme m2 drive would compare to the expansion card.
so could i buy an hdd and play games that aren’t optimized for series s/x perfectly fine?
Naw you need optimized
Why did they make it only 2 terabyte ? Gears console came out 6 years ago with 3 terabyte ????????
Seagate vs WD cards? Is there a meaningful difference?
It would be interesting seeing the seagate hard drive compared to a proper cmr drive in this scenario as the drive is shingled
That thing plugs straight into the part the memory area if you wanted to put that into your computer you would have to open it up and put it in manually
Can you play the games off of the HDD or SDD
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Faaacts 😂
How many games (average) will fit on the seagate 1TB memory card?
10 to 15 hefty ones
FYI you can buy a pc external drive and format it on the xbox but the drive has to have photos on it first before you plug it into the xbox. Hopes this helps and saves you money. Cost me $60 for 2TB
I have an Xbox one x which says it has 1 tb but it only has 700gb
Wow, your audio levels are all over the place! Tough to listen to.
It wouldn't even be hard to fix...
Just gotta wait for someone to make an adapter to us regular nvme ssds in the expansion card slot
I think there are nvme to USB adapters
@@igors_lol true but they would be limited to USB speed and be treated like an external hard drive
I'd like to see a hub made for this that you can plug multiple into
I have a series s and a 4tb external drive and it works but some series X/S games cant download with it
Okay so does the Seagate game drive for Xbox SSD perform the same way as the 1TB storage expansion card for the Series X?
Dude watch the video lmfao
@@thraxberserker9960 I did, you’re point?
@@NothernXCanadian My point is why are you asking a question that's clearly answered in the video lol
Yeah and to answer you’re question. I didn’t catch that in the video.
@@NothernXCanadian oh well the answer is no, that's why they're ripping people off for $220 tbh
Can u connect this to pc?
You can’t use any other card on series x but seagate ssd. If you want optimized gaming, then you can only store next gen games on the console or ssd expansion
I just got an external HDD Western Digital version and I can't download any new games to it, in fact, some even original Xbox one and 360 games won't download to it. That's super dumb to force you to upgrade your storage if it's capable of handling it all on the older systems. I'll suffer with my speed and performance if it means I can actually play my game, so freaking dumb.