Why no 4TB Storage for Xbox Series X?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Xbox Series S/X storage is currently limited to 2TB. Why doesn't Microsoft have a 4TB or 8TB expansion for Xbox? How expensive is Xbox storage? Will we see a 4TB Xbox expansion in the future?
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Seagate 2TB expansion: www.amazon.com...
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Its not the form factor thats the issue,as technically you could use the adapter and put in any pcie drive you want.. the issue is the fact that Microsoft has firmware locked out ANY drive but the official ones. The only reason the 2230 CH530 works with that adapter is because it shares the same firmware as the official drive.
Plenty of other ssds by several other manufacturers in the 2230 size,but they get locked out by the console.
Set aside this Anti-Consumer issue created by Microsoft,the root issue here is the fact that Microsoft isn't forcing Developers to Properly compress games! Call of duty cold war is over 250gb now,Modern Warfare is right at 200gb,each NBA 2k game is 180+gb,madden is well over 150gb and to dog pile this issue is the fact that basically every game now carries the X/S logo which forces many many games onto the ssd that DO NOT NEED to be there.
The series x data management is a frecking half assed POS system that i believe Microsoft has Intentionally designed to trash the ssd as fast as possible to help generate new console sales.
Wow thanks for the pin!
To add to what i said earlier about the system's data management,take games such as Assassin's creed odyssey,Orgins,or Far Cry 5. If you install those games like normal either from a disc or from the store, they will by default install to the system's ssd either internal or expansion card depending on how you have the system configured because Ubisoft wanted to apply the X/S logo for marketing reasons.
That's atleast 70gb of data (nearly 10% of the drives Capacity) for each game needlessly written to an ssd that is going to eventually fail sooner rather then later.
now either game will run just fine off an external hard drive and SHOULD be ran off a hard drive as the onlything they patched was just to increase the game from 30-60fps and the onlyway to stop them from installing to the ssd is to click on their gamepass tap and tell the system to install to the external hdd.why this option isn't available in either the store nor when you go to install from a disc is flat out criminal.
Then there are hundreds of indie games that are less then 4gb in size that because of that damn X/S logo get forced onto the ssd. For peats sake those games could be completely loaded into and ran from the systems ram,there is no reason to force games like these onto an extremely fragile ssd which will send the entire console to the trash heap once it fails.
And lets not even talk about all of the save data and cashe date written to the internal ssd every time you simply just play a game with auto save enabled.
Then to top all of this off,Microsoft didn't even bother to add any way for the customer to monitor the life of the ssd so they could change it out before its too late.
All of this adds up to both Sony and Microsoft want these ssds to unexpectedly die and take the consoles with them so that the customer is forced into Additional console purchases or sending them back to the manufacturer for inflated repairs.
Any one running one of these ewer consoles better keep a close eye on what they install. Make sure its a game that you are going to keep installed for awhile else you are just trashing your ssd. They have already started failing in both consoles over the past year,and i expect this to become an issue greater then Switch joycon drift within the next 6months-2 years.
How exactly is it going to fail so fast and make it trash that is the point of ssds they last longer I have an ssd I've had for about 7 years in a gaming pc it still works as good as it did and is at 90% health and if the ssd did fail why would you not just replace the ssd and trash your console?
Its the old dilemma like with blu rays in the old days every blu ray even on a xbox console, Sony earned for every sale money with it . The same thing is doing ms with locking the fw to certain nvme drives as mentioned I totally agree. I bought 1tb from seagate so i have less move delete what do i really want to grind or play etc struggle we all gamers have these day based on thin storage space as cod takes 200gb or nba all most 200 so 500gb are almost gone. People dont want to move games all the time or download them all over again so its about time to complain as we pay for game pass library even on PS5 I would like to see pricy 8tb drives and not have to deal with deleting moving downloading what game do i really want to play etc. I dont even know if the ps5 is supporting 8tb yet. But on these days relation from game sizes to storage expansion, we all gamers want and need 8tb on both consoles for people who want to be safe in future as enthusiast solution and 4tb should be standard these days for real.
I checked ps5 supports 8tb with the last fw update but for a price point starting at 850 plus euros going up to see online . I would wait until they drop to 300 euros then i would expand on ps5 without any questions to 8tb
Is the Xbox's expanded storage made of gold? It’s tooooo expensive, ZhiTai TiPlus7100 2Tb only costs $120, but Western Digital’s 2TB costs $300
4 TB should be more than possible at a reasonable price of 350 dollars. The current drives are way over inflated in price anyways even after the cost reduction. 8 TB is definitely unreasonable though, there aren't many 8 TB nvme ssd right now and they are prohibitively expensive.
The problem is that the adapter is made to be the same size as the official Seagate expansion. They could easily make a longer form factor adapter that would fit some of these larger capacity drives. Sure it would stick out of the Xbox further, but there's not much weight involved in one of these and the power and HDMI cables limit how close you can put it to a wall anyway. Even if they doubled the length of the expansion, you'd still have to bend your cables pretty sharp to get the storage expansion to touch the wall behind the console. (and that's probably not going to be good for the power or HDMI connectors.
Still it is the drive itself that is only those wd drives that work its a firmware issue
there are many cfexpress to m2 adapters (even some with a cable, so absolutlely nothing would stick out) thats not the problem, the problem is that the os of xbox only will accept specify sdd's with specific firmware's
Until they don't drop the price or come out with a 4TB model Series X, I'm sticking with my XBox One X. It has a 2TB internal SSD and a 4TB external hard drive. With Gamepass the internal fills up quick. I keep the high resource games internal and older on external. 194 games and they all play without transferring. Whole reason I gave up on PC gaming is the simplicity of consoles. Don't need multiple platforms(Steam, EA, Epic, etc), graphics setup, controller setup, compatibility issues and constantly chasing upgrades for the next game.
I agree I keep my Xbox 360 and older Xbox games on the external while the new games kept on the ssd internally, older Xbox one games on the hdd aswell … 😅
Xbox one series x or Xbox one x? Either way I don't think either one of them have 2tb internal storage. Pretty sure 1tb is the most any Xbox has had.
Ok nerd
@@newbinhell3043 Both PS4 and Xbox One can have their internal hard drives swapped with SSDs. It takes about 30 minutes to do. My Xbox One X used to have 8 TB of SSD storage. I admit it was $450 accessory, and it wasn’t worth it. I should’ve only got a 2TB tbh, but holy crap, did I have so many games! The PS4 and PS4 Pro especially are easy to SSD swap. When I swapped my PS4 Pro HHD with a 2 TB Samsung Evo SSD, it took five minutes to install.
@@newbinhell3043 PS4 and Xbox one can have their internal storage SSD swapped. My old PS4 Pro and Xbox one were both swapped with Samsung Evo SSD’s.
I don’t mean this to sound like “you’re dumb for not knowing” I’m just saying, so please don’t take it wrong.
Its true, while i would gladly pay for 8TB, its going to be such a ridiculous price point for most that i doubt i could throw a stone in any direction and hit someone who would buy it too. After that, what did Microsoft really gain by putting the time in to develop it?
In a way their hands were forced, but at certain point they just allowed their hand to go with the flow. They knew what they were doing this generation with Xbox by not allowing it to be like the Xbox One and PS4/PS5, which can all have their internal hard drives swapped with third-party SSDs. There’s a reason only one company was partnered with for the first two and a half years, if you can only get it from one source, they can charge whatever they want. Most people think Seagate was their only choice, or only company offering to partner with them pre-launch to plan on releasing the SSD expansions. When the black market or whatever company they partnered with later on to also make SSD’s actually offered to partner with them before launch to also make SSD’s and to also make them cheaper but they wanted to milk it at first. But also playing devils advocate. It was big news when the “series X” 1st released that Microsoft wasn’t turning a profit with the amount of hardware and cost that went into the consoles production. Which is what also led them to have to make what could be considered, the “most important accessory” if you want more games, to be so expensive.
I just bought a 1TB seagate drive . It will be the last "extra" that i will Purchase . I like that microsoft now have games that will play either on XBox or a windows machine . If they continue this , then all is fine . If sony can used 2280 ssds then why did MS shoot itself in the foot . I will never purchase another X Box ( or whatever the next gen MS console that will come out) unless it is compatiable with the SSD's that are already on the market . I do game more on the PC than the X box . But my next console will be a Sony and only because of the readily available storage
I think MS did the add on slot which lets folk slide in expansion vs having to open up the system in the case of the PS5. I know it's not a difficult process, but people are intimidated by opening their consoles. Valid point though. I would like to see an internal upgrade option. Thanks for your input!
@@XboxBasementthey could of very easily made a removable cover on the console to add a drive even ps5 you remove a cover of the console not open up the console
no skin off my rock, I don’t want shit that’s on the market I want custom accessories. I don’t care if they cost more.
My Ideal Xbox could be discless, but it would compensate by having a 2TB or 4TB internal SSD, and 2 to 4 NVME Expansions slots, so we could add 4x 4TB, or even 4x 8TB NVME if they ever drop in price… Making the Xbox one step closer to a PC :)
Why not just make an adapter with a cable and use a regular NVMe drive 👀
Streaming games will never compete with installed, currently streamed games are unplayable if they require any kind of timing precision.
Installed is the way to go normally. Streaming I feel like is better on the go and playing casually. Thanks for your input!
That could Very well change with Sony's new infrastructure
Look up.
Playstation project Cronos and kura. Kura is the name of the customised server's that are Built with the ps5 SSD technology to theoretically give us 1ms on Cronos. 1ms latency is a massive difference to how cloud gaming is at the moment
@@grak1396 Streaming works for casual play, and for testing a game quickly without needing to install. If you ever need to have critical timing for anything in game then streaming fails.
I have yet to see a video of anyone actually getting the non microsoft expansion drive to work. The adaptor is seen but it does not initialize.
I thought about trying it myself, but you're right. It seems like it's just too janky to work easily and I don't want to risk using something not really intended for my system. Thanks for your input!
Its not the 4tb or 8tb problem but its the price who killed me
I use a 5 TB external HDD and just move games that need internal storage only when I am playing them. It's faster than downloading
i mean we can do a m.2ssd encloser i did that route i got 4tb it would work with a external usb one
That ch530 does not work either... xbox will format it but no game will run as it gives an error.
I can buy a bike instead of 4tb SSD
Coz these are real expensive
He's spot on about the lack of necessity for hdds in the future. I have a ps5 and a Series S, which don't even need hdds! Oops, I mean disc drives.🤣
I think just for milking us.
U will own nothing and be happy 😂
the western didital memory card it's a lot cheaper than seagte memory cards but next gen consoles or even if Sony and Microsoft makes a pro version of consoles it needs to have at least 2tb i have the Xbox series X it has 1tb I ended up buying a game drive last year that's 2tb i have 53 games and my memory was running low my girlfriend bought me the western didital memory cards there to expensive for what thay are it's a scam really
there literally the same price
@@possiblyinsane6995 were I live in the UK the Western didital is £149 for 1tb and it's on a sale for £129 on Amazon while the seagat is actually £190 in most store's I've seen it selling for between £170 to £200 for some reason
hmm just curious is it possible to clone it? my friend has the 2tb seagate expantion card is it possible to clone it to a different brand adapter ?
for example if i made my expantion card myself buying a cheaper alternative and clonning my friend original expantion card into it?
What games are you playing that cost 125 GB per game aside from halo and cod what other games. on average at least to my knowledge the games that I play are 70 to 80 GB per game
Battlefield will push 100-120. Starfield is 125 before and updates or DLC. I think it's the DLC's that get ya!. Thanks for your comment!
I think gears is up there, honestly though, that is neither here nor there.
Even if you factor in an average of 75gb per game, thats only 13 games per full Terabyte of storage, of which you don't get actually get.
Now, those numbers are pretty damn high though. Most of my big current gen games are 35 - 50gb.
Even then im feeling the crunch. Then we factor the hundreds of games I own that are bc going bac to the original XBox...
It would be nice to have all my games on a single, quiet SSD and take advantage of the fast loads.
It's really more of a convenience thing.
@@vaguedreams your right I forgot about those games battlefield and gears they do take a lot of storage space
Destiny is also quite space intensive.
@@B_Machine that’s true
The adapter does not work. Stop promoting that shit !!!
Definitely NOT promoting it. Looks sketchy at best. Thanks for your comment!
😮i just buy it pay $307 good 😊 deal 🤝 if did come out 4,tb Seagate expansion card dont need it cuz buy that buy Seagate 8tb hard drive Seagate 1tb SSD both with led light 🚨 its green 💚 wat u 💬🤔
Sure it won't.
This is why ps5 wins this generation
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It’s a rip off price you can buy another console for that 🥱🥱
Agreed.