I have the same Leon with Xcellence trim. My record is 92 km on a single charge. On summer the average was 70-80 km. Now on autumn 60-70 km. 15 thousand km behind and average consumption is 0.3 l/100 km. Quite satisfied with Leon.
Great review, lovely car. Harder plastics I think take away from it a bit on the inside but it looks great. I love a practical all round car that can do a bit of everything. Great car for IKEA trip etc...
Very practical car, I'm waiting for my regular petrol eTSI and don't care for SUVs at all just a lot of extra weight and lower mpg it's a transportation device and not a fashion accesoire imho looks better than the Golf though
I have a 211 Tarraco FR and cant agree more about the steering wheel, I love the interior in general of the current Seats. Seriously considering upgrading my runaround (fiesta ecoboost) to the Lean
Excellent car. The one thing I’ve really noticed compared to its VW and Skoda cousins, is that SEAT have take it or leave it trim levels these days. Whereas the cousins can be far more customised. Shame really as I like SEATs but I like my extras too.
I'd love to know how long a charge lasts in hybrid mode. I've read Mk7.5 GTE owners can get charge per tank of fuel. People only ever seem to drive them in EV mode, charge daily etc. At that rate just get an EV surely? I'm more interested in hybrid mode.
Good review but I think I must be alone with climate control - I literally change it twice a year - 19C in Summer, 21C in winter - I just let it sort it’s self out - surely that’s the whole point of it!
We have the regular 1.5eTsi sportstourer with DCC...seats are very comfy imho its not very quite unfortunately and has lots of road noise, even with 17" wheels. Also the front axle makes a very unsatisfying rumble over wavy surfaces. Something I did not expect, even in a lower tier brand. BTW the regular sportstourer has 620 L volume, but only in the low setting of the loading floor. This isn't possible in the hybrid...this has probably less than 500 litres.
@@mickbrooks8114 I went for only 17" wheels intentionally, since our Passat and also the direct predecessor to the leon, a C-class with Airmatic, had 18" inch summer tires, which despite the Air suspension dealt rather bad with broken roads. I rather think its something wrong on the car, or the VW group still has issues with theyre dampers, like a couple of years ago...probably a design flaw. I drive different rental cars on business trips mostly Golf class size and such rumbling is absent on any other comparable car I drove lately.
Great review Nobby tho' I think the diesel one would be more applicable for my needs as plug in hybrids are no good for the motorway. I'd be interested to see tho' if there are anyone who has driven one for a week on a similar motorway journey ie 70 miles return every day and charging it every day to see what figures economy wise they'd be getting.
@@michealwaldron8118 yes but how far do you get from a tank of petrol? I usually get around 540-570 miles on a tank of diesel in my car before the fuel light comes on.
@@michealwaldron8118 you are resetting your trip meter everytime? I doubt if you'd get that distance on a tank of petrol even with the hybrid as your fuel tank is 15 litres smaller than mine.
@@stevencampbell1150 The 2400km was done with predominantly short trips using full electric. The Seat app lets you look back over all distances and fuel consumption per fuel top up.
@@alphan2262 ok, here goes: it does an emergency stop when as little as a blade of grass is in front of the car. In fact, there doesn't have to be anything in front of the car, it just decides to stop, harshly. Then there's the alarm warning that you are about to crash although the nearest car in front is 100 yards away. Oil has needed to be topped up 6-7 times in two years. It drinks oil like it's going out of fashion. The hose to the back window washer perished and the recently replaced hose is now playing up. The battery died about 2 months ago and needed replacing. There's no light up on the temperature controls, so you can't see them at all when night driving. To turn the fan up you have to go into the infotainment which is a faff when driving and dangerously distracting. The good old fashioned dials with symbols to direct air is easier and safer to use. The high beam headlight setting is poor. Not much higher than the normal setting. Boot space width is poor. Compared to my former car, the 2012 Masda 6 tourer/estate, the Leon FR does not come close to being as wide and roomy. The automatic gear box is one of the poorest I've controlled. When slowing down the revs go crazy high rather than a nice controlled rev decrease. So one has to toggle with the flappy paddle gear tabs side of steering wheel. The car judders when full wheel lock reversing. There's a short screeching noise when it changes gears from 2nd to 3rd. Traction when pulling away at speed is poor. Seats are some of the most uncomfortable I've had, especially on long journeys. Within an hour my arse is aching and numb. One positive is that it handles well. Cornering is nearly as good as the Masda 6 estate....nearly. I will not be buying Seat again. My old Masda 6 was leagues ahead of the Leon.
@@NazSBG thank you so much for your elaborate reply and sparing your time. I am planning on buying Seat Leon Sportstourer eHybrid FR which would compansate for the reduction in boot space due to batteries by being an estate. I think mechanical issues such as the gear being jerky or the problems while the car is in full whell lock are prominent and even happens with Golf GTE. So it's a general platform problem rather than only happening with Seats. But nevertheless they are annoying and should not have happened, so its unacceptable. They should have put a 7 speed dsg and 1.5 TSI instead of 1.4 TSI of the old generation imho. Infotainment is not nice but it is what is and at least Seat has real buttons on the steering wheel instead of the touch sensitive ones in the Golf. About the high beams and driver aid systems not working properly, did you take it to the dealer for this problem? Maybe there could be a software fix that resolves the issues regarding these system. Or it could be that a part of the hardware in you car is faulty. I hope your car brings you more happiness in the new year and thank you again for investing your time for your lovely reply.
I have the same Leon with Xcellence trim. My record is 92 km on a single charge. On summer the average was 70-80 km. Now on autumn 60-70 km. 15 thousand km behind and average consumption is 0.3 l/100 km. Quite satisfied with Leon.
That economy is outstanding. As is your range on a charge.
How do you drive??
70-80km seems very unlikely. That's double what it's rated for.
thanks for the review, I just did online price configuration on the Seat website and the FR PHEV Tourer is priced at €37k
Great review, lovely car. Harder plastics I think take away from it a bit on the inside but it looks great. I love a practical all round car that can do a bit of everything. Great car for IKEA trip etc...
Ideal car for a family,were the driver lives 20 or so kilometres from the office in a city centre and has a drive way at home 👍
Very practical car, I'm waiting for my regular petrol eTSI and don't care for SUVs at all just a lot of extra weight and lower mpg it's a transportation device and not a fashion accesoire imho looks better than the Golf though
I have a 211 Tarraco FR and cant agree more about the steering wheel, I love the interior in general of the current Seats. Seriously considering upgrading my runaround (fiesta ecoboost) to the Lean
Tarraco is a lovely bus especially FR
Does the Kia Ceed Estate PHEV compare well? The price was €31000 after grants although the €5000 grant is removed now (is that right?).
Another good, thorough review 👍
Excellent car. The one thing I’ve really noticed compared to its VW and Skoda cousins, is that SEAT have take it or leave it trim levels these days. Whereas the cousins can be far more customised. Shame really as I like SEATs but I like my extras too.
First.....channel for great reviews.
Shame its more estate than hatchback
I'd love to know how long a charge lasts in hybrid mode. I've read Mk7.5 GTE owners can get charge per tank of fuel. People only ever seem to drive them in EV mode, charge daily etc. At that rate just get an EV surely? I'm more interested in hybrid mode.
Hybrid will select EV anytime that it can so no, you wouldn’t get a charge across a full tank
Best car out there for me
In Hybrid mode I'll go from Claremorris in Mayo to Dublin
The R-lines are always more expensive. What price is the normal trim?
Hey DAD, good review.
Good review but I think I must be alone with climate control - I literally change it twice a year - 19C in Summer, 21C in winter - I just let it sort it’s self out - surely that’s the whole point of it!
An estate car....I remember them 😃
Great review!
Thanks!
Is the motor before or after the gearbox? As in, do the gears change when it's purely in electric mode?
They don't afaik
The trunk though is only 470 liters in this PHEV.
We have the regular 1.5eTsi sportstourer with DCC...seats are very comfy imho its not very quite unfortunately and has lots of road noise, even with 17" wheels. Also the front axle makes a very unsatisfying rumble over wavy surfaces. Something I did not expect, even in a lower tier brand. BTW the regular sportstourer has 620 L volume, but only in the low setting of the loading floor. This isn't possible in the hybrid...this has probably less than 500 litres.
Think it's the low profile wheels n tire my car st has same noise but older hatch back 2019 less noise
@@mickbrooks8114 I went for only 17" wheels intentionally, since our Passat and also the direct predecessor to the leon, a C-class with Airmatic, had 18" inch summer tires, which despite the Air suspension dealt rather bad with broken roads. I rather think its something wrong on the car, or the VW group still has issues with theyre dampers, like a couple of years ago...probably a design flaw. I drive different rental cars on business trips mostly Golf class size and such rumbling is absent on any other comparable car I drove lately.
@@ronpower7790all mine been company cars
Come to the states please
Us Dads are cool though,so by default then this is a cool car if it’s a “Dad” car…😜
That is the same car that was reviewed by cars ireland 😂😂
Great review Nobby tho' I think the diesel one would be more applicable for my needs as plug in hybrids are no good for the motorway. I'd be interested to see tho' if there are anyone who has driven one for a week on a similar motorway journey ie 70 miles return every day and charging it every day to see what figures economy wise they'd be getting.
Motorway from Tuam to Dublin, you'll get about 4.5 to 5L/100km
@@michealwaldron8118 yes but how far do you get from a tank of petrol? I usually get around 540-570 miles on a tank of diesel in my car before the fuel light comes on.
@@stevencampbell1150 Most I've gotten is 2400km, least I've gotten is probably 1300km. Its only has a 40L capacity so not bad.
@@michealwaldron8118 you are resetting your trip meter everytime? I doubt if you'd get that distance on a tank of petrol even with the hybrid as your fuel tank is 15 litres smaller than mine.
@@stevencampbell1150 The 2400km was done with predominantly short trips using full electric. The Seat app lets you look back over all distances and fuel consumption per fuel top up.
It is a very good car. I think the estate looks great. seat do much better cars in general than VAG.
Had the 21 plate (uk) FR for two years now.
To sum it up in one word would be..........SHIT!!!!!
Can you elaborate on the issues or shortcomings you have encountered?
@@alphan2262 ok, here goes: it does an emergency stop when as little as a blade of grass is in front of the car. In fact, there doesn't have to be anything in front of the car, it just decides to stop, harshly.
Then there's the alarm warning that you are about to crash although the nearest car in front is 100 yards away.
Oil has needed to be topped up 6-7 times in two years. It drinks oil like it's going out of fashion.
The hose to the back window washer perished and the recently replaced hose is now playing up.
The battery died about 2 months ago and needed replacing.
There's no light up on the temperature controls, so you can't see them at all when night driving. To turn the fan up you have to go into the infotainment which is a faff when driving and dangerously distracting. The good old fashioned dials with symbols to direct air is easier and safer to use.
The high beam headlight setting is poor. Not much higher than the normal setting.
Boot space width is poor. Compared to my former car, the 2012 Masda 6 tourer/estate, the Leon FR does not come close to being as wide and roomy.
The automatic gear box is one of the poorest I've controlled. When slowing down the revs go crazy high rather than a nice controlled rev decrease. So one has to toggle with the flappy paddle gear tabs side of steering wheel.
The car judders when full wheel lock reversing.
There's a short screeching noise when it changes gears from 2nd to 3rd.
Traction when pulling away at speed is poor.
Seats are some of the most uncomfortable I've had, especially on long journeys. Within an hour my arse is aching and numb.
One positive is that it handles well. Cornering is nearly as good as the Masda 6 estate....nearly.
I will not be buying Seat again. My old Masda 6 was leagues ahead of the Leon.
@@NazSBG thank you so much for your elaborate reply and sparing your time.
I am planning on buying Seat Leon Sportstourer eHybrid FR which would compansate for the reduction in boot space due to batteries by being an estate.
I think mechanical issues such as the gear being jerky or the problems while the car is in full whell lock are prominent and even happens with Golf GTE. So it's a general platform problem rather than only happening with Seats. But nevertheless they are annoying and should not have happened, so its unacceptable. They should have put a 7 speed dsg and 1.5 TSI instead of 1.4 TSI of the old generation imho.
Infotainment is not nice but it is what is and at least Seat has real buttons on the steering wheel instead of the touch sensitive ones in the Golf.
About the high beams and driver aid systems not working properly, did you take it to the dealer for this problem? Maybe there could be a software fix that resolves the issues regarding these system. Or it could be that a part of the hardware in you car is faulty.
I hope your car brings you more happiness in the new year and thank you again for investing your time for your lovely reply.
Renault megane for me better looking inside and out
The Skoda Octavia is a better car as the interior is much better
It is more expensive and will cost you more per month.
You pay for what you get
So pay even more and get an A4.