@Qunero They are post fade level meters. That way you know if you will be clipping the output. If you turn the master level down, that set of meters will go down. Turn up the master level, the meters will go up with it.
Actually I like what you did here and I see how it shows you can use the filters to cut lo end while in a mix wjithout touching the lo/mid/hi pots...nice one..(smooth mix too!!)
There is a 'split cue' switch which will split the left and right levels. Left channel overview will be the current track and the right level will be what is cued.
I've been interested in getting into turntabling and had my eye on the Xone:92 because of its straight-forward focused design and quality. I usually don't like onboard effects and I love how it has auxes I could run through ableton live for effects. I've always had good experiences with A&H projects. The ML5000 is one of the best sounding consoles IMO. Don't laugh: how's this thing for scratching? I'm concerned the crossfade might be too big and slow.
I read a cool and unbiased review about Xone 92 vs DJM 800 and in the end, both of them are very good. In terms of sound quality, the conclussion was that the Xone 92 is better for vynil while the DJM 800 is better for CDJs using the digital cable (orange one), although this advantages are very marginal since both machines are great. Nevertheless, what surprised me was that the customer service of Xone 92 was much better than Pioneer, when the guy asked for little knobs and pieces.
@entertextimagebelow You never take the filters out of hp or above say 400hz so all you're doing is removing the low end. And, seeing that this video is titled 'Demonstration Filters' you could at least do some quick up and down filter sweeps with the resonance turned up so you can actually hear the filters working.
Normally what I do, however, is make sure my beats are on and that all my levels sound good, then while I'm actually bringing in the next track I just deselect the cue to get a visual on my levels (although it's 99% by ear) and if I have to reselect the cue again to double check my match I will. Everyone has different styles, this just works for me.
@acido909 well, being that I'm running these tracks through Serato, sound quality wouldn't be any different if it was two records, they're just control disc. I use one of each to practice both. I do have a two other 1200's off to the side. I actually prefer vinyl if that helps any =)
once you play with one of these, you ll never want to use anything else.nothing beats the sound quality and the feeling of this mixer. the main faders are a little fragile though, need to be replaced from time to time.
@entertextimagebelow "You never take the filters out of hp"..."all you're doing is removing the low end". And, seeing that this video is titled 'Demonstration Filters' you could at least do some quick up and down filter sweeps with the resonance turned up so you can actually hear the filters working. @TrenosUK Did you even watch the video? Obviously you can't quite grasp what I was actually demonstrating. For the record, it's actually titled Mix Demonstration not Filter Sweeps For Trenos.
I'm not sure what you meant by "destroy." Were you implying that scratching's heavy use of cross faders wares the cross fader down? Can't many mixers have their crossfaders easily replaced? Allen Heath products are notorious for being repair friendly with their easy access. I believe you can unscrew the plate the crossfader sits on and you can modify or replace the hardware directly below.
Sure. Give me a day or two and I'll post another one showing more features. I'm sure the 800 is a great mixer. Pioneer does make good mixers. However, once you buy a Xone and play with a bit, you'll never go back.
I dont own this mixer so I cant say. But I do know in Ableton, you can change the shape of the crossfader pattern and one selection basically has the music 95% cutoff about 70% of the way in each direction.
@beefman210 It was on My Favorite Robot Records and released March 11th 2009. Do a track search for Nation Eyes on BP. For some reason Anno does not come up when I do a artist search.
well, Im not too familiar with that to be honest. However, the mic and send/return options on the xone92 are endless so I'm sure it's capable. Maybe if you could explain a little more I'll see if I can answer it better. Thanks.
@TMWTMP100 I'm greatly interested in the other features especially the midi and lfo/filters. I use ableton quite a bit. But would this thing be bad for scratching? Is the fader too long?
One more might be nice, but it suffices. I'm trying to mix more by ear than visually now. Try to rely more on the sound than the lights. After all, that's what everyone is hearing. Maybe make some minor adjustments throughout the night using the led's to give you a constant platform to work off of.
@TrenosUK Although my instincts tell me not to, I'll throw you a bone. The main message in this video is to help people understand resonance in junction with frequency. If you were paying attention towards the beginning of the video that might make sense to you. If you can dial them in together and maintain depth to the mix, you won't have that problem like you had at the 19ish and 23ish minute mark of your 36 minute mix. Yes, I listened to it which wasn't bad. But since we're critiquing...
I probably wouldn't buy this thing for scratching. The crossfader moves fairly freely but it is a bit tighter than say, a Vestax. Besides, why destroy a $2,000 mixer when you can buy a Rane or Vestax for a lot less?
@TrenosUK I'd love you to show me how it's done then. Really, I mean that, because I never claimed to be an expert. And even if I didn't like your technique, I wouldn't make some stupid remark without explaining an answer. This is just to try and encourage people to buy this mixer. I should be happy though. It took almost 30,000 people before a prick finally showed up. Well done.
if i ever manage to get such a mixer i know for a fact that when i open the box i will cry like a baby from happiness
I have mine for 3 years now and I still remember that moment.
My A&H PX5 just got delivered a few days ago and I was like a kid on Christmas day.
was literally me when i opened my box, i held it like a baby in my arms
im like 12 years too late, but this is killer dude
@Qunero
They are post fade level meters. That way you know if you will be clipping the output. If you turn the master level down, that set of meters will go down. Turn up the master level, the meters will go up with it.
Actually I like what you did here and I see how it shows you can use the filters to cut lo end while in a mix wjithout touching the lo/mid/hi pots...nice one..(smooth mix too!!)
1st track - Anno - Nation Eyes
2nd track - Stephen Bodzin - Mustang
Really perfect mix. Congratulations!
There is a 'split cue' switch which will split the left and right levels. Left channel overview will be the current track and the right level will be what is cued.
It's one sexy mixer, especially from that angle, NOICE!
I've been interested in getting into turntabling and had my eye on the Xone:92 because of its straight-forward focused design and quality. I usually don't like onboard effects and I love how it has auxes I could run through ableton live for effects. I've always had good experiences with A&H projects. The ML5000 is one of the best sounding consoles IMO.
Don't laugh: how's this thing for scratching? I'm concerned the crossfade might be too big and slow.
I read a cool and unbiased review about Xone 92 vs DJM 800 and in the end, both of them are very good. In terms of sound quality, the conclussion was that the Xone 92 is better for vynil while the DJM 800 is better for CDJs using the digital cable (orange one), although this advantages are very marginal since both machines are great. Nevertheless, what surprised me was that the customer service of Xone 92 was much better than Pioneer, when the guy asked for little knobs and pieces.
I want this mixer sooooooo badly!!! I kicks ass!!!
@Qunero yeah they seem to. the red button is on and that's the cue-button.
Excellent mixing sir. I'm getting my xone 92 rotary from another DJ tomorrow :) Can't wait :) Thanks for sharing this.
@entertextimagebelow
You never take the filters out of hp or above say 400hz so all you're doing is removing the low end. And, seeing that this video is titled 'Demonstration Filters' you could at least do some quick up and down filter sweeps with the resonance turned up so you can actually hear the filters working.
Normally what I do, however, is make sure my beats are on and that all my levels sound good, then while I'm actually bringing in the next track I just deselect the cue to get a visual on my levels (although it's 99% by ear) and if I have to reselect the cue again to double check my match I will. Everyone has different styles, this just works for me.
@acido909 well, being that I'm running these tracks through Serato, sound quality wouldn't be any different if it was two records, they're just control disc. I use one of each to practice both. I do have a two other 1200's off to the side. I actually prefer vinyl if that helps any =)
once you play with one of these, you ll never want to use anything else.nothing beats the sound quality and the feeling of this mixer. the main faders are a little fragile though, need to be replaced from time to time.
Yes, that's what he meant by destroy. But if your scratching, you wont need that level of control that this mixer provides.
Buenaso Bro !!! ... Lindo enganche !! .. Saludos desde Mar del Plata ....
@entertextimagebelow
"You never take the filters out of hp"..."all you're doing is removing the low end". And, seeing that this video is titled 'Demonstration Filters' you could at least do some quick up and down filter sweeps with the resonance turned up so you can actually hear the filters working.
@TrenosUK Did you even watch the video? Obviously you can't quite grasp what I was actually demonstrating. For the record, it's actually titled Mix Demonstration not Filter Sweeps For Trenos.
I'm not sure what you meant by "destroy." Were you implying that scratching's heavy use of cross faders wares the cross fader down?
Can't many mixers have their crossfaders easily replaced? Allen Heath products are notorious for being repair friendly with their easy access. I believe you can unscrew the plate the crossfader sits on and you can modify or replace the hardware directly below.
Why those filters are so special??
I would love o see you explain the way you use the filter with the transition
Sure. Give me a day or two and I'll post another one showing more features. I'm sure the 800 is a great mixer. Pioneer does make good mixers. However, once you buy a Xone and play with a bit, you'll never go back.
I dont own this mixer so I cant say. But I do know in Ableton, you can change the shape of the crossfader pattern and one selection basically has the music 95% cutoff about 70% of the way in each direction.
@luk688 Sure thing!
@beefman210 It was on My Favorite Robot Records and released March 11th 2009. Do a track search for Nation Eyes on BP. For some reason Anno does not come up when I do a artist search.
well, Im not too familiar with that to be honest. However, the mic and send/return options on the xone92 are endless so I'm sure it's capable. Maybe if you could explain a little more I'll see if I can answer it better. Thanks.
@TMWTMP100 I'm greatly interested in the other features especially the midi and lfo/filters. I use ableton quite a bit. But would this thing be bad for scratching? Is the fader too long?
@komabase Anna - Nation Eyes, Stephen Bodzin - Mustang
@GanstaWays Oh come on, why do you think the title is Xone 92 mixer? It is definately showing djm 800 yes... Deduction fail!
See when you press the cue button the master levels go, i dont like that feature.
Is there any way of turning that off?
I will do a more in depth video covering the filters, for sure.
One more might be nice, but it suffices. I'm trying to mix more by ear than visually now. Try to rely more on the sound than the lights. After all, that's what everyone is hearing. Maybe make some minor adjustments throughout the night using the led's to give you a constant platform to work off of.
Hey =)
does anybody know the tracks played in this video?
@TrenosUK Although my instincts tell me not to, I'll throw you a bone. The main message in this video is to help people understand resonance in junction with frequency. If you were paying attention towards the beginning of the video that might make sense to you. If you can dial them in together and maintain depth to the mix, you won't have that problem like you had at the 19ish and 23ish minute mark of your 36 minute mix. Yes, I listened to it which wasn't bad. But since we're critiquing...
Recorded through Ableton via desktop...if that's what you mean?
at least, i'm not the only one to use the filter for what it's meant for to be...
Thanks for sharing!
could you share the track names please?
btw smooth transition
I probably wouldn't buy this thing for scratching. The crossfader moves fairly freely but it is a bit tighter than say, a Vestax. Besides, why destroy a $2,000 mixer when you can buy a Rane or Vestax for a lot less?
track id?
+James Oliver Phillips Stephan Bodzin - Mustang, Anno - Nation Eyes
great video :)
track list?
Should RES affect bass when filter is on but filter knob is all the way to the left?
yes if the res is on maximum
wow! all that stuff for a tone control, I still prefer the old 250 K pot and a .1 cap.
He didn't know how to use the filter, so you didn't hear the actual good stuff.
could you give us a link? would be nice (=
i wanna see 2 turntables there!!! not 1 turntable and 1 cdj :(
ya nice mixer, that and the djm800.
@TrenosUK I'd love you to show me how it's done then. Really, I mean that, because I never claimed to be an expert. And even if I didn't like your technique, I wouldn't make some stupid remark without explaining an answer. This is just to try and encourage people to buy this mixer. I should be happy though. It took almost 30,000 people before a prick finally showed up. Well done.
Sorry Yoda, please everyone we can't. Hmm?
MINKIA K ANGOSCIA TUTTO A RALLENTATORE MINKIA UN PO DI RITMO
yeah, shit demo.
This is pointless - you're hardly even demonstrating the filters.
nice set up but some boring ass tunes them
Xone 92 is better