I'm old tech dj tequipment, And now I have my xone02 for more 15 years, and now I bought xone 3d for parts. I'm wait parts to make a Frankenstein. I love the hi quality analog sound and this brand have a plus of this filters. So this filter I loved 😍 ❤ 💗 💕
Hello King of Fortress, Thanks for the message. Please ensure that you have the’ RES’ control set flat (12 o’clock). This will ensure that the roll-off on the Cut-off/centre frequency is not adding any resonant gain. Kind regards, Luke
Thanks mate - didn’t know you could ores multiple band in the filter select :) And yes I leave the filter on the whole time w 60% resonance on hi pass w the lnob all the way counter clock wise - it gives a lil extra sub harmonic
When I engage the filters to channels A and B, and these are set to Mic Input, the filter does not affect the sound. It does affect the sound when these channels are assigned to another input (such as return). Is this supposed to be the case? In other words, is there a reason why it is not possible to apply a filter directly to a microphone (regardless of whether it's Mic A or B)? Or do I have a defect unit?
Hi, By default, the Mic input is on a clean feed, this means that the Mic signal only passes to the Main LR output, and not the booth or record out. This clean feed also bypasses the channel filter routing. However, with the clean feed disabled, the Mic signal can be routed to the filters. FYI, there are internal jumper configurations to turn on and off the clean feed. For further information, please drop us a line at support@allen-heath.com Best regards, Luke
@Xonedjofficial I once heard you shouldn't leave the filter turned on all the time on the 92 because even with the lowest "Freq" setting the very lowest low end will still be cut. I recently got a 96 and I feel like I hear a slight difference between filter off and (high pass) filter on with freq and res set to minimum. However SpinnZinn just suggested leaving the filter on all the time in the video, so does it actually not affect the sound after all?
Hello TheKrooky, Thanks for the message. I’m not sure it was explicitly suggested by Alex to leave the filters on. It was more of a question fired directly to end users, as to how they use their setup and was merely trying to encourage any debate and valuable feedback. To answer your question, we need to look at a couple of factors. Firstly, the Xone:92 filter sweep works down to 30Hz, whereas the 96 was revised to work down to 20Hz. Typically, 20Hz is at the lower limit of human threshold, plus the 96 is rated to operate between 20Hz-30kHz. If you feel that you can hear anything in this sub range, then by all means, please feel free to switch off the filter circuit, as the second thing we revised when designing the 96 was the switching circuit when engaging the filter. It was taken task to minimise any audible artefacts that would normally be an inherent factor when switching within analogue circuitry. We have achieved this and you can now switch in an out the filter whenever you desire. Finally, when the filter is on, to achieve an output from the filter that’s closest to a ‘flat’ (unaffected) signal output, RES should be set to the 12o’clock position, not MILD. This, due to the nature of the filter’s output - again by design and to be anticipated. It’s both completely normal, and fine. I hope this helps and you can start to enjoy using your mixer to its full potential. Kind regards, Luke
BTW im saving up and trying to decide which one, the 96 or MODEL 1. It seems the MODEL 1 allows to leave in unique filter setup for each track, whereas the 96 is limited to just filtering either each one individually at a time, or adding them together, is that correct?
Hi Alejandro, It is not possible to cue the filter signal as this feature works post-fade, whereas, the cue bus is a pre-fade listen (PFL). Kind regards, Luke
You should put option for both filter on each channel, that way you have more freedom to manipulate low frequency with HP filter, of the track which is already assigned on LP filter
Hey Spinnzinn very informative series, i saw your video on DDT and was wondering after 2 years of that post are you still using the same routing and equipments ?
Hey Jad, yes I am still using the same basic setup. Though now 100% on the MODEL 1, with similar routings. 4 Decks from Traktor and 4 returns from Ableton.
Hi, thanks for these videos :) the xone:96 is able to engage two filters simultaneously to one or 2 channels at once? for instance, filtering the low frequencies with the leeft filter meanwhile cut some hi frequencies with the right filter...
Hey - quick question for you. I’ve had my 96 for around a year and all of a sudden whilst playing the channel levels significantly reduced and all became distorted. Since this occurred my filters regularly make a popping sound when engaging. This happens with both filters. I’ve recently moved to 4 deck mixing with Traktor so I don’t know if this has caused it / shown up an underlying issue with the unit. Any ideas what this could be? I also sometimes get a crackling sound when using the gains knobs. Thanks!
Hi KAIÂ, Thanks for the message. We are sorry to hear that you are having issues with your Xone:96. Form the symptoms you have described; we would strongly recommend getting the mixer serviced by our certified partner within your country. Contact details can be found on our where to buy page and selecting a country. www.allen-heath.com/where-to-buy/ Kind regards, Luke
@@xonedjofficial Really? I got a 96 about 6 weeks ago after 11 years of 92 ownership. I think this filter is more resonant than the one on the 92. Not that it matters, it sounds fantastic.
my xone 96 has a noticeable bass drop when the filter is turned on but the knob still in the off position.... which leads me to have to turn it on and off each time i use it or the mix will lose alot of energy :( already send it back to the dealer but they say they dont hear any difference while the spectrum analyzer in ableton clearly shows a big drop. is there anyway this could be fixed with a firmware update? running v.1.0.2. hope you can help me otherwise i will have to sell it and use my xone 4d again :( otherwise it is a fantastic mixer and the sound quality is far superior over anything else i have used !
I bought a new xone 96 couple of weeks ago , unfortunately i have some issues. When i turn the on/off filter knobs i hear a clicking/pop sound off the speakers or my headphones 🤔🥺 is this normal? It feels not good for me. I checked the latency things , i checked it also only with a line output. It doesn't matters. I think there is something wrong with some components inside. I understand this is a analog circuit offcourse but in my opinion this should not happen. Please can anyone help me..?
Hello Dominic, We are sorry to hear that you have some concerns with your new Xone:96. Please contact your dealer, they will help you put this straight. Kind regards, Luke
1:05 I did that exact motion, Now my filter is stuck on HPF! :-( Least its not stuck on low pass, But still! its stuck! cant disable it or use others without it being stuck on
Hi Wreign, Thanks for the message, We are sorry to hear that you are having an issue with your Xone:96. We would highly recommend getting this looked at by our service partner in your country. Contact details can be found on the where to buy page. www.allen-heath.com/where-to-buy/ Kind regards, Luke
I have a 92 and can’t leave the filter always switched on (I primarily use HP but not always)... if filter is switched on even at its lowest freq (30hz) on some subs u feel some bass roll off. Wish it was 20hz so I could leave on and then roll off some Low when needed
Gerald, the Xone:96's filters have been refined with the 15 years of feedback we've received from the 92, we feel we hit the nail on the head with this one ;-)
@@JaeSifre With a build in delay I would have bought one. Although I hear a lot of people complaining about there A&H mixers. Now I stay with Pioneer. And no, I am not a Pioneer fan! I don’t care about brand names.
I've always used them more as an effect, honestly: I love eq slices up records, so I'm not a HPF always engaged dude. This kid does it nicely, though: th-cam.com/video/r5mUZ_yn14A/w-d-xo.html
The sound oft the filters is simply amazing.
Thanks for sharing your feedback!
I'm old tech dj tequipment, And now I have my xone02 for more 15 years, and now I bought xone 3d for parts. I'm wait parts to make a Frankenstein. I love the hi quality analog sound and this brand have a plus of this filters. So this filter I loved 😍 ❤ 💗 💕
Great video. What's the track id?
HPF + BPF at 15% boosts the kick of your track, thus hindering a loss in energy if the second track has a more quiet kick.
Hello King of Fortress,
Thanks for the message.
Please ensure that you have the’ RES’ control set flat (12 o’clock). This will ensure that the roll-off on the Cut-off/centre frequency is not adding any resonant gain.
Kind regards,
Luke
Why you of circuit is in crunch knob ?
Thanks mate - didn’t know you could ores multiple band in the filter select :)
And yes I leave the filter on the whole time w 60% resonance on hi pass w the lnob all the way counter clock wise - it gives a lil extra sub harmonic
Can the dynamical movements of the VCFs be controlled automatically, e.g. from an external LFO?
When I engage the filters to channels A and B, and these are set to Mic Input, the filter does not affect the sound. It does affect the sound when these channels are assigned to another input (such as return). Is this supposed to be the case? In other words, is there a reason why it is not possible to apply a filter directly to a microphone (regardless of whether it's Mic A or B)? Or do I have a defect unit?
Hi,
By default, the Mic input is on a clean feed, this means that the Mic signal only passes to the Main LR output, and not the booth or record out. This clean feed also bypasses the channel filter routing. However, with the clean feed disabled, the Mic signal can be routed to the filters.
FYI, there are internal jumper configurations to turn on and off the clean feed. For further information, please drop us a line at support@allen-heath.com
Best regards,
Luke
@Xonedjofficial I once heard you shouldn't leave the filter turned on all the time on the 92 because even with the lowest "Freq" setting the very lowest low end will still be cut. I recently got a 96 and I feel like I hear a slight difference between filter off and (high pass) filter on with freq and res set to minimum. However SpinnZinn just suggested leaving the filter on all the time in the video, so does it actually not affect the sound after all?
Hello TheKrooky,
Thanks for the message.
I’m not sure it was explicitly suggested by Alex to leave the filters on. It was more of a question fired directly to end users, as to how they use their setup and was merely trying to encourage any debate and valuable feedback.
To answer your question, we need to look at a couple of factors. Firstly, the Xone:92 filter sweep works down to 30Hz, whereas the 96 was revised to work down to 20Hz.
Typically, 20Hz is at the lower limit of human threshold, plus the 96 is rated to operate between 20Hz-30kHz. If you feel that you can hear anything in this sub range, then by all means, please feel free to switch off the filter circuit, as the second thing we revised when designing the 96 was the switching circuit when engaging the filter. It was taken task to minimise any audible artefacts that would normally be an inherent factor when switching within analogue circuitry. We have achieved this and you can now switch in an out the filter whenever you desire.
Finally, when the filter is on, to achieve an output from the filter that’s closest to a ‘flat’ (unaffected) signal output, RES should be set to the 12o’clock position, not MILD. This, due to the nature of the filter’s output - again by design and to be anticipated. It’s both completely normal, and fine.
I hope this helps and you can start to enjoy using your mixer to its full potential.
Kind regards,
Luke
BTW im saving up and trying to decide which one, the 96 or MODEL 1. It seems the MODEL 1 allows to leave in unique filter setup for each track, whereas the 96 is limited to just filtering either each one individually at a time, or adding them together, is that correct?
yes that is correct
I CANT HEAR ANYMORE THE FILTER ON THE CUE, ANY IDEA HOW TO FIX IT_ ?
Hi Alejandro,
It is not possible to cue the filter signal as this feature works post-fade, whereas, the cue bus is a pre-fade listen (PFL).
Kind regards,
Luke
You should put option for both filter on each channel, that way you have more freedom to manipulate low frequency with HP filter, of the track which is already assigned on LP filter
Great vid, and great track! Can you reveal the track name? Sounds fun to play with
Hey Spinnzinn very informative series, i saw your video on DDT and was wondering after 2 years of that post are you still using the same routing and equipments ?
Hey Jad, yes I am still using the same basic setup. Though now 100% on the MODEL 1, with similar routings. 4 Decks from Traktor and 4 returns from Ableton.
feel free to shoot me an email contact@alexzinn.de if you have any further questions
Hi, thanks for these videos :) the xone:96 is able to engage two filters simultaneously to one or 2 channels at once? for instance, filtering the low frequencies with the leeft filter meanwhile cut some hi frequencies with the right filter...
+Eyjavi, You can only assign a channel to one filter at a time.
Hey - quick question for you. I’ve had my 96 for around a year and all of a sudden whilst playing the channel levels significantly reduced and all became distorted. Since this occurred my filters regularly make a popping sound when engaging. This happens with both filters. I’ve recently moved to 4 deck mixing with Traktor so I don’t know if this has caused it / shown up an underlying issue with the unit. Any ideas what this could be? I also sometimes get a crackling sound when using the gains knobs. Thanks!
Hi KAIÂ,
Thanks for the message.
We are sorry to hear that you are having issues with your Xone:96. Form the symptoms you have described; we would strongly recommend getting the mixer serviced by our certified partner within your country. Contact details can be found on our where to buy page and selecting a country.
www.allen-heath.com/where-to-buy/
Kind regards,
Luke
hi bro can the model 1 eq knobs slider knobs fit on thee xone 96
Have you lowered the upper limit of the resonance control? Sounds less wild as compared to the 92.
Yes!
@@xonedjofficial Really? I got a 96 about 6 weeks ago after 11 years of 92 ownership. I think this filter is more resonant than the one on the 92. Not that it matters, it sounds fantastic.
I uploaded a couple 96 filter tests on my channel, too.
my xone 96 has a noticeable bass drop when the filter is turned on but the knob still in the off position.... which leads me to have to turn it on and off each time i use it or the mix will lose alot of energy :( already send it back to the dealer but they say they dont hear any difference while the spectrum analyzer in ableton clearly shows a big drop. is there anyway this could be fixed with a firmware update? running v.1.0.2.
hope you can help me otherwise i will have to sell it and use my xone 4d again :(
otherwise it is a fantastic mixer and the sound quality is far superior over anything else i have used !
Hi:
I've noticed the same problem on my xone 96, and i've the firmware 1.0.2 but the problem persists. Did you solve the problem?
Thx
Trick is to keep your resonance knob to 12 o clock at least. As stated above by Xone
Hey, same here but I am able to bypass this by simply turning the resonance down before disengaging the filter
I bought a new xone 96 couple of weeks ago , unfortunately i have some issues. When i turn the on/off filter knobs i hear a clicking/pop sound off the speakers or my headphones 🤔🥺 is this normal? It feels not good for me.
I checked the latency things , i checked it also only with a line output. It doesn't matters.
I think there is something wrong with some components inside.
I understand this is a analog circuit offcourse but in my opinion this should not happen.
Please can anyone help me..?
Hello Dominic,
We are sorry to hear that you have some concerns with your new Xone:96. Please contact your dealer, they will help you put this straight.
Kind regards,
Luke
1:05 I did that exact motion, Now my filter is stuck on HPF! :-( Least its not stuck on low pass, But still! its stuck! cant disable it or use others without it being stuck on
Hi Wreign,
Thanks for the message,
We are sorry to hear that you are having an issue with your Xone:96. We would highly recommend getting this looked at by our service partner in your country. Contact details can be found on the where to buy page.
www.allen-heath.com/where-to-buy/
Kind regards,
Luke
I have a 92 and can’t leave the filter always switched on (I primarily use HP but not always)... if filter is switched on even at its lowest freq (30hz) on some subs u feel some bass roll off. Wish it was 20hz so I could leave on and then roll off some Low when needed
Gerald, the Xone:96's filters have been refined with the 15 years of feedback we've received from the 92, we feel we hit the nail on the head with this one ;-)
@@xonedjofficial I bought a xone 92 and the gains don’t kill the volume to 0
what exactly is up with that crunch filter?
The Crunch is a pre-amp stage that allows you to over drive the filter circuit, introducing controlled harmonic distortion :-)
a build in delay would have been more useful to be honest.
@@JaeSifre With a build in delay I would have bought one. Although I hear a lot of people complaining about there A&H mixers. Now I stay with Pioneer. And no, I am not a Pioneer fan! I don’t care about brand names.
But why they are so special?? Because is just a normal filter ._. They are same on pioneer mixers
The real Seth Troxler would not need to ask this question! 😉
@@tontotv2550 thanks 👍
Not the same at all! Use your ears to compare :)
Not digging the distortion “crunch” effect thought
I've always used them more as an effect, honestly: I love eq slices up records, so I'm not a HPF always engaged dude. This kid does it nicely, though: th-cam.com/video/r5mUZ_yn14A/w-d-xo.html
Porque esos filtros son tan especiales?? Porque pioneer también tiene ._.