Isobutane Canister Stove Fuel Test - Which is the best?
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- This episode of The Sideburn Hunter talks all about Isobutane fuel canisters. We test 230g /4 oz fuel cartridges to see how much fuel they contain, how hot they burn, how quickly they boil water, and how long the canisters last. This is great info for hunters, hikers, backpackers, and campers. The results were not what I expected.
Products tested:
Coleman Performance Fuel Blend
MSR Isopro
SnowPeak Giga Power
Jetboil Jetpower
Olicamp Rocket Fuel
Perune Isobutane Fuel Cartridge
Energy By Optimus
GSI Outdoors Fuel Cartridge
Primus Power Gas
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Demand for a cold weather test is high. Please give me some testing ideas and let me know what you would like to see. Thanks for watching!
You could put the fuel canisters in the refrigerator or freezer for say 3-4 hours then repeat your currents test. Use this information vs the low temp to show which ones are affected more
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Leave the canisters in a freezer over night then do the same test.
I think that will really separate out the good from the bad.
The primary culprit is butane, which stops vaporizing at 31 degrees Fahrenheit. (Isobutane-a chemical variation of butane-continues vaporizing down to 11 degrees Fahrenheit.) Isobutane is best. Boom, done.
Perhaps you could get access to a commercial walk-in freezer to do some testing. Leave the canisters inside over night then test lighting difficulty and boil time. Overall, (warm or cold) I think what’s important for me is availability and $/min of run time.
I'm an engineer in Alberta Canada. I spent 30 years working in natural gas facilities that extracted propane, n-butane and i-butane from natural gas streams. The composition of our product varied by 2% on a daily basis. In other words, I could sell you propane that was 95%-99% propane and 1%-4% ethane on any day. Same for all our other liquid streams. The companies that make these cartridges source their feed on the open market. They do a rough blend at their facility and then fill a batch of canisters. You could repeat your test with different canisters from the same company and get different results. I'll go out on a limb and say that there's not much difference between one brand and another because they all source the same product. In the past companies advertized a summer vs. winter blend. That made a difference because it changed the percentage of propane from 10% to 20%. I don't think anyone does that any more. Everyone sels an 80/20 blend in a heavier canister. Also, the difference between iso-butane and normal-butane is not significant as a fuel. We separate butane into its two isomers for the chemical industry. The butane found in fuel canisters is a blend of the two, even though most companies advertise iso-butane. Otherwise, cool video.
Martyupnorth I was wondering if barometric pressure on the day the canister is filled would effect how much fuel is in the canister? On higher pressure days do you get less fuel?
@@AdventureOtaku No, that's why they are filled by weight. You always get the same weight. But you are correct that volume is pressure and temperature dependent. The test results for the same canister will be different during different seasons and at different elevations. Years ago the manufacturers had a summer blend that was 90% butane and 10% propane and a winter blend that was 80% butane and 20% propane. The reason for the different blend was because at cold temperature a pure butane won't vaporize. It's all quite interesting. That's why these tests are fun, but have to be taken with a grain of salt.
@@Martyupnorth I haven't gone backpacking for a bit, but I had issues with some of those summer blend cans burning in cooler weather (40°F) vs the winter blends and that was a few years ago. So its my understanding they're still available.
@@johnnyboy8498 That's certainly possible. A 100% butane canister in freezing temperatures would barely vaporize.
@@AdventureOtaku no, the filling is fluid. No pressure! So at very low temp..
Great video! Another performance factor I looked at was dividing the time until empty with the time to boil to get an average number of boils per canister. Coleman=65, Olicamp=63, Perune=62, Energy=60, Primus=57, MSR=51, Jetboil=50, GSI=48, Snow Peak=48. If you boil an average of 3 times per day the Coleman canister will last roughly 6 days longer than the Snow Peak!
In the end, this is the only number that matters.
Makes lot more sense, thank you!
This is what I was going to recommend. Great work
I was going to recommend the same data.
Kinda/Sorta ... You'll probably get less number of boils because you lose some gas everytime you screw and unscrew the fuel canister to the stove.
Good test. As a control test it would be interesting to try several "identical" canisters of the same brand, perhaps bought over a period of time so they are from different production batches, to see if these inconsistencies still exist. It may be that no 2 cans are the same, even when from the same brand!
FANTASTIC DATA. Excellent notes regarding labels. Really solid value can be gained from this video. I wish more content providers would provide the due diligence, detail, and value you have here. Scientific Method approved!!! Notes: include temperature of the fuel canister, water, cooking vessel, burner, and room during tests to control variables. There was a 1 gram variance in Coleman fuel from the beginning and end of the video. Nitpicking notes: better control the ignition of the fuel and timing to ensure consistency, make sure the control knob position is always consistent (if not controlled already). Weigh in-between first burn and long burn. Document testing parameters for long burn EG: how did you determine the tank was empty, did you leave it open for an hour to ensure. I know it's in a basement but humidity, wind guard, the time between tests. etc. Bottom line this is a fantastic video, please, Please, PLEASE DO NOT LET MY NITPICKING DETRACT FROM THE VALUE HERE.. Way above what most review videos are. Empirical, testable, documented facts and data are present. And after collating the data myself I completely recommend the Oilcamp. It has the lowest price point as of December 2021. It contained the (acceptable variance) correct amount of fuel at 229 grams. Had the 3rd best overall burn time (pending controlled room/water/cooking vessel/burner temperatures and ignition/control knob standardization) and had the second-highest number of boils per container at 63. Therefore you will pay $.08 USD per 11.6 oz boil. Based on the data here you will pay $4.95 be able to boil 16.5oz of water 63 times per canister. Outstanding and fine work @TheSideburnHunter
I really appreciate you taking the time to run the numbers on all of these different brands. With a ~2.5-3 hour runtime each this took quite a while to collect all of the data.
The Mister Rogers of Hunter's. Thank you 👍
Thanks great video. But... I should mention that if you are taking the Coleman with you in cold weather better be prepared to sleep with it because it doesn’t like the cold. I was camped near Yellowstone two weeks ago and it was cold enough I had frost on my tent. (in July!) In the morning the Coleman wouldn’t work but luckily I had a Jetboil with me and despite the cold it fired up no problem. I think it is due to the fuel composition.
Yeah, judging by the comments, I may be doing a cold weather test soon
I have done close to the test you did .. I bought 4 different brands i could find local just to see where i was at on performance and boll times .. I did not weigh the canisters before and after the tests .. Your test is a lot more more in depth than mine by far .. Just something i was curious about when i started to use canister stoves 20 years ago .. I still use white gas stoves and have always liked them for the passed 50 years plus .. Canister stoves are not the Holy Grail of cooking or boiling water , they are just very small and very easy to work with .. But it adds up inside my pack either a 2.4 ounce stove or 17 ounce stove ..Each have their place out there .. With White Gas the price of fuel comes out to $0.08 per ounce, while a Snow Peak 220 gram ctg for $4.99 comes out $0.62 per ounce and i get around the same time out of 220 gram ctg which is real close to 3 hours depending on the flame setting control , i have had 4 hours out of a ctg before ....great test thanks for this one ..
I have had very good luck with my olicamp stove and fuel. I love it
And this is why I bought...A multifuel stove. My Svea 123 cost about 60 UK pounds about 30 years ago and it still works faultlessly. They're about 100 now. But the fuel lasts for literally 1-2 weeks for the cost of maybe 50p of fuel. And that is boiling 2 cups of coffee at breakfast. Main meal at lunchtime and another meal in the evening. Under the same conditions, I'd get through a primus canister every 3-4 days.
When I bough the Svea I was doing 1 month tours. After a month, that worked out at 8 canisters or, in today's money 30-40 uk pounds, plus the price of the burner (usually about 30-40). Oh, and white gas/petrol burns MUCH, MUCH hotter than propane, and works faultlessly at low temps and high altitude.
As you can see, my Svea paid for itself in under 2 years. But a gas burner has literally zero s/h value, whereas a Svea will always fetch good money on the s/h market.
For almost anybody, under almost any conditions, a decent multifuel burner makes much more sense than the damned canister.
I took something very different away from this. The canisters( like MSR) that produced higher temps, Could be throttled back just a bit, there by producing the same temp for a longer period of time. I’ve always used MSR with no complaint. Thanks for your test. Kinda confirms what I always knew
Good point. Thanks for watching
Outstanding Video!! I would go with the Coleman based on this. Fast boil time, longest burn time, wildly available, can get at Target with 5% off using Target Red Card
Thanks!
I've only seen it at a grocery store or convenience store on occasion, besides the 20 LB barbecue tanks in the rack and the 1 LB Coleman tanks.
Thanks so much. Perfect measurement criteria. Perfect objective testing and data reporting with no meaningless chatter or speculation.
Finally someone knows how to make science-based videos.... thanks man, very helpful
The most useful graph, which you missed out, is the number of boils each canister can do. Ie total burn time divided by boil time. That’s the conclusion I was hoping for.
Darren Boorman exactly, boils per canister is the main parameter for anyone on a multi-day hike or trip, followed by price per boil. I would also be interested in seasons and temperatures that they can be reliably used in. Other than that a very comprehensive test and no click-bait so definitely a thumbs up. I have used the Coleman, Primus, Jetboil and MSR canisters along with a four season local variety I bought in Iceland. That burned way hot and I stopped out of fear it would destroy my Jetboil... I usually also buy whatever is cheapest.
James Pants I did work it out and post it if you fancy scrolling through the comments
Great job, I’ve always wondered about the differences.
As a backpacker I would be looking for the most water boiled for the weight. For a long hike you would want to keep the cartridge count down.
For a shorter trip like you say go for price and availability.
Thanks.
And this is where the system becomes more important than the fuel canister itself. A Jetboil flux ring stove/pot system puts more of those expended BTUs into the water, than a traditional stove/pot combo, meaning shorter burn time to reach boil, and in turn, less fuel expended. (and less needed to be packed)
Eat the high cost up front, then enjoy superior performance using cheap Primos canisters for a lifetime.
What also pulls from your data is the temp tells the tale of the butane propane mix , higher temp = more butane
These cartridges are good for high altitude/ snow
Coleman are high propane cartridges and are hard to start as canisters get low in high altitude /snow
Great vid , I know this took days . To educate me in min.
Actually quite the opposite! Propane is the so-called 'winter gas'.
@@Stantube1000 check again , I fix propane and propane accesories
Good empirical data Sir, and useful, however the main thing about isobutane is supposed to be it's cold weather performance. I thus thought this was going to be about testing the burn quality at or near freezing temperatures (zero degrees centigrade). You may of course have future plans to do this, whereby the canisters could be wacked into a fridge overnight, then sleeved with some form of foil insulation jacket for handling as you assess the flame quality/temp/etc under these conditions. Many gasses just splutter and flare at low temps, so a brand comparison might be revealing here. Kind regards.
Ever since I had an Optimus fail to maintain a flame, I now exclusively use premium fuels that perform better at lower temperatures\higher winds. You never know when you're going to be caught out.
My conditions are quite different though, I'm Australian and not American. Still, conditions on our measly mountains can still be tough, 70 mph winds are nothing to sneeze at!
The whole purpose with going to a mixed gas fuel was to avoid the extremely poor cold weather performance of straight propane. My suspicion is the fuels which showed poor performance in this test may fair much better is the test was repeated at a temperature significantly below freezing.
Excellent test and while I thought the Olikamp was best overall, the Coleman choice makes sense given how available it is. I refill mine from cheap butane aerosol canisters and during the colder months use an alcohol stove but this test certainly proved your point that the margins of performance are too slim to be bothered.
Outstanding. Somply no other comment. Thank you.
WOW.....AWESOME.....Thanks so much. This test was well prepared and executed. No BS or fillers. Use, application, consistency and quality control of course produce variables however....this is by far THE best video to give an idea of what to get...and what you're getting. Well done
Great video, Coleman forever! Thank you. :)
Interesting. The most important to me is the total burn time. Anything over 3 hours will be fine for me. I do long remote hikes (more or less 5 days without resupply). I mostly use Primus cans since I never had one single issue with these. Not because they were less expensive (in my neck of wood they are not less expensive anyway). My reasoning was to get a good Brand with good quality checks so I won't get f-ed on the trail. So, I will continue to use them, I guess. I will get Coleman's as well for the next one out of curiosity.
This is good stuff. Based on what I'm sure is now a rather old article on Adventures in Stoving, I'm under the impression people have issues using the Coleman canisters on non-Coleman stoves. Maybe they've worked that out.
I was curious if your total burn time failed to account for the seconds of time used in the initial temperature and boil tests, but even if I re-run the numbers, the burn time per gram of fuel seems to vary pretty substantially from a low of 39.15 seconds on the Jetboil to the 54.55 for the Coleman.
If we calculate the total burn time per the weighed fuel weight and divide by the boil time we can figure out the grams of fuel needed per 16oz pot of water and the total pots per canister we can expect all else being equal.
This gives us a pretty significant disparity with GSI only boiling 48.6 pots of water per canister and the Coleman managing 64.9 pots. That 16.3 pot difference between the two canisters could easily amount to many days extra worth of fuel on a trip.
Looking at it from that perspective shows us that even though Jetboil had the most fuel and almost the fastest boil time, since the whole canister emptied faster than some others, it's not the best choice if you want the canister that will let you cook the most meals.
Of course, none of this is rigorous enough to be certain. We also do not know if the canisters with less fuel are from a stingy manufacturer, consistent canister to canister for the same brand, a valve that slightly leaks, or a canister that is older. Maybe some valves just allow more fuel through at a faster rate. It also doesn't tell us if the fill weight disparity would be similar if I'm using 100g canisters which is the more likely size for most backpackers.
I'm curious about the total burn time disparity even when accounting for the fill weight differences. I assume some canisters are chilling themselves to the point of essentially self-regulating. It would have been interesting to have seen how cold each canister got during the burn. I assume It chilled to some equilibrium temperature and stayed there near the very end. Depending on how cold that was compared to the temperature a canister gets to during a routine boil, my calculations are completely trashed as no one generally uses their stove for more than a few minutes at a time. Running the test again using a moulder strip might even out the numbers some and prove that theory. I don't think the stove you're using is regulated which may completely account for this disparity. Using something like a Soto or Amicus or MSR Reactor might make more sense for this kind of test.
The lack of correlation between boil time and the max temperature is interesting. To me that suggests the better way to improve performance is probably not with a better fuel or stove, but with a better pot. I see you're already using a pot with a heat exchanger and it's quite frankly disappointing it doesn't appear able to take advantage of the additional BTU's put out by some of these fuels. The Coleman and Olicamp both have very similar boil times and rank first and second on boils per canister by my calculations, but I'm curious if the hotter Olicamp would blow away the Coleman if used under something like the wide 1.5 or 5 liter Jet Boil pots.
If it performs I expect, we would identify Olicamp as the better choice for large pots of water (group cooking) or perhaps for melting snow. Snow gets us into the limits of isobutane stoves anyway, so that may all be a moot point. For other pots, the Coleman appears to be the winner.
Another perspective on this would be to use an adapter to mount the same stove on a propane canister. It should in theory burn even hotter than the Olicamp but may not produce a faster boil time. Likewise, if cool weather performance is not going to chill the canister to the point of impacting performance, using straight butane rather than a mix may be the most economical solution.
Interesting analysis. Some of it may take a bit to digest. Your propane control test would be a good way to compare stoves with a control of fuel and regulated pressure.
You are correct. If you watch my AOTU test, during the flame controllability test, the olicamp stove shoots flame well beyond the pot. A wider pot would take advantage of that wasted heat, but certainly wouldn't fit on every stove, especially something small like the AOTU. That is probably why the jetboil stoves perform so well at boiling, the flame is optimized for the pot as they are sold as a system.
the coleman is a propane butane in think mix fill and not an iso so that may have a bit to do with it
Very informative. I buy whatever is cheapest... usually in my local area tends to be GSI at $4.69... I've actually never seen a Coleman canister!
Really interesting. Excellent content, editing!
Thanks for sharing.
I have the Coleman had them for 7/8years with the Primus kettle cup with lid that you can do bacon 🥓 & an egg 🥚 , like the same style as in this video, I can't read the writing anymore but the non stick is still A1 condition 👌
Thats a great test, there is off course a slight variable where some of the gases are designed to work for a specific product but overall its a great test.
Olicamp FTW really. Great winter performance too.
I don't go out in winter so I just refill my own canisters with straight butane. You can use the stove all day long with no guilt about the cost, but obviously only in warm weather. Plus if you don't overfill it's safer given that butane has a lower pressure than propane. You can use a simple kitchen scale to fill adequately.
Thank you for putting in the time and money to do this test and share it!
Good video, the ONLY thing which you could of added for the sake of technical variety would be the different mixes of gas each offered which would have indicated what mix (butane to propane blend) is optimal in cold climates, its something I always wondered about. Anyway, thank you from across the pond.
Great, fyi, almost all of LP Canisters are made in Korea by 2 companies, SunTaeyang & Daeruk. Means all of Canisters quality is very same only the blending ratio is the important factor.
However I personally think it is really no meaning to pay any more penny for the canister. If you are really want to have powerful stove in the extreme cold, the Liquid petroleum stove is the only option like MSR whisperlite. 🎉
Final choices? Exactly what I would choose. I prefer the Primus slightly over the Coleman due to availability and price. Great concept!
Great video, love all the info and the graphs helped.
great reviews. much details and variables, yet highly informative. greetings from Indonesia!
Fantastic job! I always buy Coleman, because it's the second cheapest. One thing to note is that on some really low range canisters the thread is so bad, it may break your stove:/
I had one issue where the canister bottomed out on the stove before it actuated the valve. it's probably a good idea to test compatibility before you run out into the wilderness
Great video. Way to keep it real. The margins are too small to make a real difference. Love the data. Thanks for sharing. 🏆
You have a done a very thorough set of tests. That is good information
Thank you very much.
This has helped me pick one for my army kit, I have a jet boil and a Kombat stove. But to have a fuel that heats up fast is important for me
You have a scientists mind, went about so methodically! Good job.. Thanks a lot
Excellent well thought out and organized video. Big kudos for the time it took to gather all this data and present it!
Great video brother!! Thanks for all your observation and feedback!
Great work.... Best video I watched so far covering this subject.
Excellent testing! I guess it doesn't really matter what you choose in the end. I wonder if the differences you were seeing came down to quality control at the factory. If you took new canisters from the same brands and tested them again, maybe the results would change completely?
Good interesting test. Most of the time I buy Jetboil, I get it for a good price, and it performs good for me in colder weather. Thanks and take care.
Answered all my question about what fuel was going to work and easily accessible.
Nice test. I wonder if some of the differences just comes down to the batch mix. They probably have a certain level of tolerance for each batch. It is possible that the mixture might change during the batch. As long as the end product, is within certain levels, it is sellable. The fact that a number of brands appear to come from the same factor but performed differently makes me think that this is at least part of the reason. It just doesn't seem like they are going to change the blend for different canisters. Maybe I am wrong. Interesting, none-the-less.
Excellent vid, answered many questions. Thanks
Well done! I have always wondered myself. Nice information. I use these on all my backpacking trips. Great video and channel. Subscribed. Crow✌️
Good video, good info, good graphics, info was displayed well and easy to comprehend. What more do you want in a product comparison?
Very interesting video. Love the data, although I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion that it doesn't matter. Certainly if you're on an extended through-hike it could be very important. As u2pda points out, there could be a six day difference, which could give you time to get to a store and refuel!
Another point that struck me as odd was the disconnect between flame temperature and boil time. Perhaps an indicator of how small a percentage of heat is captured by the pot?
Also wonder if there might be a difference between stove brands. Do manufacturers actually optimize their fuel blend to work with their stoves?
Anyway, really appreciate your approach. As so often in science, the purpose seems to not be to answer questions, but to ask better questions.
Very usefull informations. Thank you for you take this work to create this video !
Good video, I am a oilicamp guy. I find it t a used equipment store for 4.95 a canister.
Good job. Very thorough.
It's also worth mentioning that these blends will change from month to month and batch to batch. There's a reason they don't list the exact composition of these fuels all the time. I once bothered a Coleman rep so much about how do they not even know whats in their own product, and escalated to his boss and his bosses boss until someone high up finally typed in all caps "WE DONT KNOW THE EXACT COMPOSITION BECAUSE OF CONSTANT VARIATION!!". I might be paraphrasing that a bit but same sentiment.
Great info and a great stash
There’s a shortage of these damn things now. Can’t even find them at my local EMS or Walmart, and the generic ones sold by Amazon are the double the normal price.
Yes!! After weeks of checking my local REI (two hours away from my house) and other sporting goods stores, I finally picked some up today. I almost debated just buying them online at 3-4x the price but I thought that was crazy to do. I should’ve bought them all at the store but I was trying to not be greedy with them. I want to keep stocking up though
Great video! Thanks for putting this out for all of us.
Great video! very detailed and loved the graphs. good way to show data
Well done my dude. Thanks
This guy is the man. Thanks for the research!!
Solid review, Thanks
Great video... Thanks for sharing!
Great video mate. 👍
The differences in max temp look large but only because your graphs y-axis starts at 400, not zero.
Use the Coleman on the AT or PT
Good video and not to complicate things but you only tested one randomly selected cartilage from each brand. Ultimately I suspect the results are probably even closer than your tests though if a group of each brand were tested and then all averaged out.
I would like to see how much water each can actually boil. Great video
primus is the best . i love it . thanks for amazing video
So we are looking at 150 minutes of burn time at wide open, and at 3 min burn time for 16 oz of water we should get 50 boils of two cups of water or 16 ounces. But does that mean you can get 25 burns of 4 cups or 32 ounces? If so then that’s not bad. Most of us do two burns a day of two cups and that’s 25 days but I would be happy with 20 days of fuel well managed. Thanks for the test.
One thing you didn't address is the different compositions of fuels for different altitudes. I know the snowpeak fuel mix is supposed to work better at higher altitudes than some of the other fuels that are more butane heavy. For sea level I agree that you should use the cheapest one.
Very informative, thanks!!
Thanks ! Very helpful to us newbies.
One additional test to consider--performance in freezing or near freezing temps--for those of us who are out in those conditions.
See my post above. Multifuel may be a greater original investment, but it beats propane hands down.
@@davidcolin6519 I know MRS is blend (multifuel), expect the rest are too. That wasn't my comment. I wanted to see a test of all of these in freezing weather--the differences could be dramatic or not. Adding isobutane to propane gives better low temp performance. A test in a basement is not the same as a test outdoors in less controlled atmosphere.
I live in cold weather. Can fuel is fine for summer use. But in winter at 10 degrees to -25 degrees farenheit kerosene is best.
I have ordered Perune off amazon and found it very comparable to MSR canisters for a lower price.
The information was great the only thing I did not see was the weight of the empty canisters. I think that would have given a more accurate fuel weight. I am sure they do not weigh that much maybe but still
The empty weight is pretty consistent 145 grams +- 5 grams
Great work
Great Material! Why do you think they vary that much?
Good test. Tahnks
At 60 -70 ° F they may seem similiar ,at 0° F there is a hugh difference .
perhaps the type of burner one screws on to these matters....some vid do show better efficiency w/Jetboils engineering...and of course doing this test outside on a fall day (hunters) or summer day (hikers) could come up with a 'winner'..?
I don't carry those fuel canisters. If you use then you carry them all the time , even when they are empty Especially if you don't like to litter.
I use either a alcohol or wood burning stove or a combination of both which are nice and quiet. In all honesty when I'm out camping I don't get in a hurry. If water takes a few more minutes to boil , no problem. I'm out there to take my time , enjoy the surroundings and just relax.
I have several of the fuel canisters here at the house. Also a assortment of stoves for them in case of power outages , storms or Hurricanes.
Good vid. I would be curious to see what fuels perform better at lower temperatures.
For my old family camping stove and lantern I use 16 oz propane cylinders. I am now often camping alone on hunting trips and I want to reduce to a smaller stove. Will the small Jet Fuel stoves work with those standard 16 oz propane canisters that I can purchase everywhere, or will I need special canisters?
I'm curious (geeking out) how much variation there is between individual canisters of a given brand. Say you had 3 or 4 MSR canisters...It'd be interesting to see differences, if any, from one to the others.
This could have been solved much easier. Look at the the propane vs. butane ratio / %. If I remember correctly the higher the butane ratio the hotter.
I have multiple canisters of coleman on hand as prep for hurricanes. They vary from 12.5oz to 12.8oz for a full canister. Variance in metal weight or fuel weight? You be the judge
Great video.
How were you able to get the gas flow to be exactly the same on all stoves? Different flows would allow for faster boils and depleting the cartridges at a different rate. How were you able to make sure all cartridges had the same starting pressure?
My local farm store has Kovea Premium Blend Fuel Isobutane (Iso-Butane & Propane) (230g) for $4.99 and the tall canisters of Kovea High Performance Butane-Propane Gas Mix (227g) for $1.99. What is the difference besides package and the tall cans being half the price? I have an adapter on the way to fit the tall can.
Excellent video, thank you
Good information , well done 👍 thank you !
seems there isn't a performance test/consideration (cal/min) about number of boil possible with the complete charge
Awesome Video bro!!!!!
I heard a hint of a giggle after you said Optimus Primus lol
Don't care about the weight but the size. I live in the north GA mountains and the only offering in the 250 Coleman (butane/ propane) for $5....don't care. I just refill them with two trips to the freezer and the 20lb propane tank on my back patio...all propane which is much better fuel...and $1 a lb.
I have considered buying the half sized can when in city poofda land to get it to nest inside my coffee cup.