I learned an sp1200 in 1997 with a bag of dro and a room full of records in about 5 hours I was already sampling/ making beats it looks complex but it's not , on these types of machines it's all done by ears you close your eyes and go by ear and passion but that's what forces you to become creative and it's actually faster and fun your going by feeling/ funk just like a dj would by controlling a crowd but it's Hella funky I still got my o.g Grey sp1200 and it still rocks
Love this review. Make sense if you have the original. Still thinking about getting one even though I have the ISLA 2400. It’s just knowing that I have that piece of history which I would never sell to sit alongside my MPC3000 and my my MOOG Model D reissue.
Would love one but the sky high obscene 4k price tag is holding me back especially since I already own an Octatrack and SP 404MK2 that do way more and easier to work with on a regular basis. I rather wait for a new Oberheim DMX drum synth or buy something else. Rossum Assimil8or is great option for modular users.
I'm sure the isla2400 has more features, but this is familiar with me, sad both don't have same chip Isla/rossum (there are chip differences from original sp1200 ssm2044 chip and these ssm2144 Isla rossum chips)
Imma MPC man, I own a MPC One, and, have owned the older units, but, never having any experience with an actual Sp1200, I learned my way around the Low Hiss version within a couple of days, so I can translate that to an actual unit, I recommend a person try the Low Hiss, to get familiar with how the unit works
@@RobViktum cool a firmware update that negates output filters, awesome. I've been stuck using only channel 1 and 2 then stick audio cables halfway in from 3 to 8 😆
Seems to sound somewhat more hi-fi than the original - perhaps due to the parts they had to change due to old parts being out of production. Otherwise, it does sound very similar - even down to such aspects as almost identical aliasing at various settings.
Yoo real dope review, still wondering if the filters have the fast attack slope that the og sp has, cause that made them less usuable for lowpassing stuff, which i also believe contributed to why people used the 950, thanks!
No, the Rossum does not have any control over the filter's fast decay setting. It's the same fast attack as an OG unit. The only added control is Resonance, and the Frequency control is moved from inside the unit to the rear panel. My Emu SP's have both been modded to filter without that fast attack like the S950. I may mod the Rossum to match my other units.
Technically you do have some control over the envelopes over filters one and two. You can now shut said envelopes completely off. Jazzcat filters on the way for me. Can’t wait. 🎉
I have an SP 1200 and an akai S 950 (maxed memory) the question I have for you is this new machine preferred over the old combo. Also can the SP 1200 the updated to 20 seconds of sample time?
Can you help me, i bought yesterday my rossum sp 1200 wenn i put the first the sd card in there the Display Show there is no card, ist that normal, i can sampling sounds, can it be that the card Reader don' t Except the card without recorded Samples or had rossum send to me a damage instrument?
Which SD Card are you using? Are you using the one that came with it? First thing I would do is reach out to Rossum. They are incredible with support. Hope you get it figured out.
@@RobViktum i use the card from rossum and the maschine Read the card and the sounds but only when i put the card in the maschine before i press on , when the maschine it is on and the i put the card into it ,the display Show me No card i can load Nothing, can it be that you have to make settings and a Software update before you can use the mashine complete. Please help me
Mine just arrived a few days ago. It's sooooo sexy. With the prices the way they were getting for OG units it was too hard not to pop on the reissue and I'm glad I did. Thanks for the honest review! Oh, and I really like the fact that you have to rely on your ears. There's something to that method of beat making.
Omfg lol 😂. I ordered back in 2/22…..bruh I don’t think we’re getting it this year 😂. I was told yesterday 8 weeks then 10 weeks then 8 weeks….idk wtf lol.
could have listened to you talking for hours about this :) so glad i have the OG although it doesnt get used a lot... when you say the filters are different on the rossum, does the OG sound better to you ?
Not too many videos out there at the moment on the Rossum 1200 beside yours. Nice review mate!. As someone who has been working on an SP1200 as my main sampler for many years now, I am looking to pick up one of these Rossum units soon. Should give me time to do some repairs on my unit. Just one question..How are the drum trigger pads? Have you popped one off to see if it is still the spring/pin contact action. Do they feel more firm and springy than the originals.. if that makes sense haha? Cheers, O.
Peace man, quick question. Can you save sequences and tracks onto the SD card and simply drag and drop them into ableton as a means to do further mixing of each track in a DAW?
So its cool if you just collect gear like yourself for the sake of having it? I can understand the nostalgia for an sp 1200... But you have an mpc x why would you buy an mpc one?
My thing is if you going to remake the sp1200 they should of made the same sound output but with more modern features and capabilities. Its too pricey to have the same ole old stuff and capabilities. To me its overpriced. However i do own the original and appreciate the old Sp. But if you gonna remake it, have it come with some updates
I learned an sp1200 in 1997 with a bag of dro and a room full of records in about 5 hours I was already sampling/ making beats it looks complex but it's not , on these types of machines it's all done by ears you close your eyes and go by ear and passion but that's what forces you to become creative and it's actually faster and fun your going by feeling/ funk just like a dj would by controlling a crowd but it's Hella funky I still got my o.g Grey sp1200 and it still rocks
Love this review. Make sense if you have the original. Still thinking about getting one even though I have the ISLA 2400. It’s just knowing that I have that piece of history which I would never sell to sit alongside my MPC3000 and my my MOOG Model D reissue.
This is a solid, educated, factual - while opinionated- review, from a real producer-- and THANK YOU for it. TH-cam needs more reviews like this.
Never used an SP1200. Always wanted to try one out.
Great video. Please review the ISLA S2400 if possible.
great video your break down was very insightful
Would love one but the sky high obscene 4k price tag is holding me back especially since I already own an Octatrack and SP 404MK2 that do way more and easier to work with on a regular basis. I rather wait for a new Oberheim DMX drum synth or buy something else. Rossum Assimil8or is great option for modular users.
I'm sure the isla2400 has more features, but this is familiar with me, sad both don't have same chip Isla/rossum (there are chip differences from original sp1200 ssm2044 chip and these ssm2144 Isla rossum chips)
I was looking tha dang thang up and seen you and was like oh shit! Thinking about picking one of these up!!
Order now if you want it by 2024 (real talk)
@@RobViktum I’ll prob buy it off eBay cuz I’m not patient at all lol
@@RobViktum so their projections are not what they say on the site?
I’ve been talking with someone at rossum and ordered a couple months ago. They told me end of feb 23
Imma MPC man, I own a MPC One, and, have owned the older units, but, never having any experience with an actual Sp1200, I learned my way around the Low Hiss version within a couple of days, so I can translate that to an actual unit, I recommend a person try the Low Hiss, to get familiar with how the unit works
Can I just turn filters off this Rossum 1200 or do I still got stick out audio cables halfway to negate them 😆
There is a firmware update that fixes it
@@RobViktum cool a firmware update that negates output filters, awesome. I've been stuck using only channel 1 and 2 then stick audio cables halfway in from 3 to 8 😆
He better use the rossum sp1200 as his main & for his project , those other mpc's don't sound better than sp1200
Anyone any thoughts on the Isla S2400?
great insight on the Rossum
Working with a computer adds the complexity
Seems to sound somewhat more hi-fi than the original - perhaps due to the parts they had to change due to old parts being out of production. Otherwise, it does sound very similar - even down to such aspects as almost identical aliasing at various settings.
yo rob... can u please upload the vids u have of you making beats on the rossum sp 1200?
Yoo real dope review, still wondering if the filters have the fast attack slope that the og sp has, cause that made them less usuable for lowpassing stuff, which i also believe contributed to why people used the 950, thanks!
No, the Rossum does not have any control over the filter's fast decay setting. It's the same fast attack as an OG unit. The only added control is Resonance, and the Frequency control is moved from inside the unit to the rear panel. My Emu SP's have both been modded to filter without that fast attack like the S950. I may mod the Rossum to match my other units.
@@illegist U got the jazzcat filter mods? Okay, intresting rossum didnt add envelope control!
Technically you do have some control over the envelopes over filters one and two. You can now shut said envelopes completely off. Jazzcat filters on the way for me. Can’t wait. 🎉
@@disxiple_113 glad they added that feature opens up a new world for the filters!
Nice review, thanks 🙏🏿
And thats why the SP is still king…
There's no 1 bar count in for recording?
Yo my man can you doe more videos on the rossum please, thank you
Would love to see a video showcasing the sound mangling/design capabilities of a SP1200
there's a million on yewtube
I have an SP 1200 and an akai S 950 (maxed memory) the question I have for you is this new machine preferred over the old combo. Also can the SP 1200 the updated to 20 seconds of sample time?
Great review. Subbed
Can you help me, i bought yesterday my rossum sp 1200 wenn i put the first the sd card in there the Display Show there is no card, ist that normal, i can sampling sounds, can it be that the card Reader don' t Except the card without recorded Samples or had rossum send to me a damage instrument?
Which SD Card are you using? Are you using the one that came with it? First thing I would do is reach out to Rossum. They are incredible with support. Hope you get it figured out.
@@RobViktum i use the card from rossum and the maschine Read the card and the sounds but only when i put the card in the maschine before i press on , when the maschine it is on and the i put the card into it ,the display Show me No card i can load Nothing, can it be that you have to make settings and a Software update before you can use the mashine complete. Please help me
What is the loading time on the rossum for a whole project? I’ve heard it’s way faster than the original, takes me a minute or so on the OG. Thanks.
Super super fast
Mine just arrived a few days ago. It's sooooo sexy. With the prices the way they were getting for OG units it was too hard not to pop on the reissue and I'm glad I did. Thanks for the honest review! Oh, and I really like the fact that you have to rely on your ears. There's something to that method of beat making.
I'm still waiting on mine. which batch was yours a part of?
@@LeeDaHitman 3rd. I ordered in November
Omfg lol 😂. I ordered back in 2/22…..bruh I don’t think we’re getting it this year 😂. I was told yesterday 8 weeks then 10 weeks then 8 weeks….idk wtf lol.
How long did it take to arrive ..
could have listened to you talking for hours about this :) so glad i have the OG although it doesnt get used a lot... when you say the filters are different on the rossum, does the OG sound better to you ?
Not too many videos out there at the moment on the Rossum 1200 beside yours. Nice review mate!.
As someone who has been working on an SP1200 as my main sampler for many years now, I am looking to pick up one of these Rossum units soon.
Should give me time to do some repairs on my unit.
Just one question..How are the drum trigger pads? Have you popped one off to see if it is still the spring/pin contact action. Do they feel more firm and springy than the originals.. if that makes sense haha?
Cheers, O.
They actually feel exactly the same…. Not brave enough to take the buttons off though lol
Peace man, quick question. Can you save sequences and tracks onto the SD card and simply drag and drop them into ableton as a means to do further mixing of each track in a DAW?
No
Hi, I'm totally new to this machine, briefly how does it compare with the Roland MV-8800 ?
Completely different ball game.
Sp1200 is the best machine on the planet
Yes upload megamix best video here on TH-cam
So its cool if you just collect gear like yourself for the sake of having it? I can understand the nostalgia for an sp 1200... But you have an mpc x why would you buy an mpc one?
Impossible to travel with an MPC X or an SP1200….. MPC One solves that
My thing is if you going to remake the sp1200 they should of made the same sound output but with more modern features and capabilities. Its too pricey to have the same ole old stuff and capabilities. To me its overpriced. However i do own the original and appreciate the old Sp. But if you gonna remake it, have it come with some updates
Why they do much money
Because they knew that's what people would pay for nostalgia people will buy anything if they think it would make their music better or famous.
Yeaaaaaa bro working on the sp is painful af lol. It’s a nice sacrifice though. Stupid nice just work flow I could shoot myself sometimes for sure
LOL They will be lost going from MPCs To EMU SP1200
Just get a S2400 stop complaining you brigand!
kinda over priced for what it is...