Tuned 2020 Civic Si vs. Ford Focus ST
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You guys need to race when you swap cars to get a better idea of which car is faster. Too many variables with the driver in a manual car so swapping drivers really gives us a good comparison.
Mathew M run what you brung period
Grant a pretty cool dude. Love your vids man, this has to be the friendliest car enthusiast channel on TH-cam
Thanks, im glad you enjoy them
I enjoyed this video! I drive an 18 ST
Good job, Cam! I really enjoyed the positive tone to this video.
Also loved how yall changed cars gave it and even playing field. very impressed overall you seem chill.
Man, I appreciate your honesty. I've seen a bunch of other youtubers crap on the focus st when in fact it's a nice car. Especially for what you get in the same price range as a civic si
Reconnecting with an old buddy and putting him in your video...that’s classy👍👊
It really is too bad Ford doesn't sell the Focus ST anymore here in the States. Nice to see a slight tune can keep the Si up with it.
I like the ST but I'm scared to buy a used one and they don't have the tech I want like the Si.
@Throwing rocks It's funny because I wasn't gonna get one but once I found out they would not be selling them in the states I went to the dealership that same week. Im glad I did because they had 4 ST's deals going i guess more people had the same idea lol. But the SI are really nice too especially the type R.
Throwing rocks I got an 17’ st3 with only 13k on it
Is the Ford automatic gear or manual here in the video?
@@ososkic8673 Its a manual Focus ST only comes in manual the way it should be.
Used to own a 19 Si coupe. Always liked the Focus ST. It’s quick, practical, tunable, decent looking, and cheap. Almost bought a 17 with 9000 miles for 18k but I ended up getting a 2020 WRX. Nice video man.
So all in all you chose the heaviest and slowest out of the three? haha. I love them all!
ReallyCoolRC Heaviest, yes, slowest, no. In stock form, out of the three, the WRX is the fastest in both 0-60 and the 1/4 mile.
This is awesome. I got a 2013 st back in November and my brother just picked up a 2018 si! What a coincidence!
I have a 18 ST and I love the 10th gen si’s. The lower speed rolls is the advantage for the ST due to the torque, but that’s why you were winning the higher rolls!! Nice vid
Awesome video. Whoever owned that TS ST before took great care of it!
I have a FBO 2016 FoST with a 93/E30 tune... if you think a stock 2013 is fast, drive one thats properly tuned and upgraded! Not a rocket but more than enough to have fun! You can eliminate some of that 'loose' feeling in the shifter by upgrading the shift cable bushings for like $30...and shortening the shift (plate/arm/etc) it makes a big difference too!
y'all are very humble, I wish more people were like that! Cant wait to see what y'all do to you cars. Get some races in as you both upgrade... cheers from South Texas!
Was going with the new SI but put a deposit on the new type r instead. Keep the videos coming. This is really good stuff.
Smart move. Well worth it.
racing like gentleman. love it dude!
Not a civic owner but man your channel is underrated bro. Keep it up. Saab 9-3 2.8t owner right here 🙌
Thanks man! That means a lot. Btw, i love those Saabs. Very cool cars
Best vid yet! Keep it up 👍
Loved the foxbody shot at the end. Great video!
Thanks man!
You should get a front/down pipe. Good performance! with the exhaust and the tune you have
ive been debating on a 17 civic si or a focus st and i think this video just made up my mind for sure...st it is and thats coming from a die hard honda fan i am just not feeling the 1.5t it cost way to much to mod to perform close to the st...love the video!!!
Subbed can't wait to see you get a project car! get something with major potential like that cheap type s or miata
Respect bro, Im here cause last night I spanked an SiCivic, I also think he hit top speed cause the car just stopped suddenly, I hit 145 and was like WOW! could have easily kept going. the ST is FAST, Ive had quite a few sport cars really like it.
Y’all need to race fam , great video we loved it
Please race a 2020 Elantra GT N Line...I love to race you but with this Coronavirus it would be impossible for us to cross the boarder. Enjoy the channel, great content Cameron
Everybody chirps the tires on that 1st to 2nd shift when they start driving the Si. It’s a tall shift and that Rev hang is unreal.
It pulls hard above 4k RPM at 50+ mph or highway speeds. It was keeping up with the ST on the 50 roll which is astounding for what it is.
SDAlexander that’s why you try to eliminate some
By upgrading tires and going with a 245/40r18 over the stock 235/40r18 helps a lot minimizing that chirp and locks the car to the pavement
Why is that astounding? They are both turbo 4 bangers? It’s as even as it gets lol (btw I love both)
@@traxxasrcfunjust because they are 4 bangers doesn't mean they are the same. St has a 2.0 pushing 252hp stock while the civic si is 1.5 and only has 202 hp
@@w0lf9009 and .5 liters can be made up by like 2 psi. When vehicles are boosted there are so many more variables so displacement becomes less important. If they were both NA it’d be astounding
From a 30 roll the ST really shines especially if you start in second gear.
That first gear is shooooort
You fell in love with a car that is 6 years older then your 2020 SI. Stock SI is 205hp and 197tq.stock ST is 252hp and 270tq. The SI is really light compared to the ST, but you would have to spend some serious coin just to match the ST power but the handling is where the ST really shines.
Sam t hahaha not really!! Fbo and delete boost lag the St wouldn’t even have a chance with the ST...
good vid. I really enjoy my '17 ST.
thanks Jon
This was awesome 👍
Awesome video bro
nice runs, that focus is slightly faster. maybe intercooler and downpipe can get you a dub.
K&N drop in replacement air filter adds 5hp and 5ft/lbs torque dyno proven! Little known secret. Next upgrades AFE intercooler and pipes! Great video keep um coming thanks Cam!
thanks big dad
Loved the vibes in this video, you two are such laid back guys it’s dope lol. Here because I’m looking into buying an ST for my first stick shift. You think it’s a good beginners?
You’ll love it
Sweet video man!! Also you live close to me. I’m out here in Santa Rosa about. About 2 hours
I have a 2013 st there is so many mods its a fun car to build!!
Good runs. I would love to see how my RSX does against your civic. Im usually a close race with the Focus ST's.
I will say your editing has really improved since the start of the SI series keep it up man 👍
Thanks man
Dope video
Good vid bro...!!!
I can't wait to add in more fuel with my little ST and see what happens.. I'm currently maxxed out
If you are thinking about STs as a project check out a speed3. 1st gens are super sleepers and can be had for a decent price.
I think they’re the fugliest things ive ever seen
Cameron Hill speed 3s are real good looking when you take out the smile grill and put a big front mount in it few bolt ones and you’ll be pulling 350 wheel
Cameron Hill feel the same way about the st lol
Cool video!!!
I got the AWE track exhaust on my b8.5 s4 and it sounds amazing!
I had both. The ST is just more powerful hands down. Way more tq plus over 300lbs disadvantage. If you get an ST get the recaros. It's well equipped. You can still find some brand new at dealerships. The Si was great and we'll refined. But even with Hondata, it didn't feel close to the turbo on the ST. The ST gives you the old fashion turbo thrust I was looking for that I didn't get in the Si.
Well done dude, and again I guess Si should have 2.0 Engines)...hope Honda is gonna give next gens with 2.0 as option.
Probably not going to happen because a 2.0 would not be in line with keeping this car economical and efficient. Also the price of the car would go up, putting it in a price range out of reach for some. Remember, the ST was in the $30k range new
Yeah 2.0 vtec....👍👍👍👨
Just scene a few of your videos want a 10th gen so bad now hopefully I can get me one soon
Good races!
Those engine the turbo are max out from factory and those eco boost once you tune the engine are time bomb.
Lmao!! Love this guy's reaction when he gets into the Focus.
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New video, let's go!
It would be awesome if you did the races on the track, drag racing is fun, but I feel the Si is designed more for track racing.
the St is made more for the track too, not drags at all. it has brake vectoring, It would be interesting to see them on a track for sure!
Cobalt vs focus I never raced one while I was stock I wanna see it
You should try a full bolt on and tune fiesta st :)
I also have a 2020 Si.
Ive done just the catless dp/fp from Megan Racing.
No tune as of yet.
I took on a 3rd gen Ford Focus ST and it was grill to grill until he lifted.
It was from a dead stop at a redlight.
Now if his was a 2.0l or smaller, I dont know, but I didn't expect the Si to perform the way it did against the Focus ST.
Extremely surprised by the outcome without being tuned yet.
Kori Wright That dp/fp upgrade is doing loads for your power my friend. With a good CAI (PRL), and tsp tune, the 1.5 will be screaming!
@@aarong6616 Plans have been made!!!
I love Focus St as well would be sick to see this as your project car. Love watching your videos keep it up !
My buddy went to basic training with you. Stumbled across your video, and hes like damn that dude looks really familiar. Where you located I wanna race.
thats pretty cool, man. yea, mario told me on Facebook! DM me on instagram @camhill182
At the end of the day, both are fun daily drivers with over 25mpg. I'm averaging 26.5mpg city/highway combined in my ST
cant wait for the race against the 8th gen Si
Cool, but you need to do this again if you can and let the ST cool down, the heat soak from the stock intercooler is crazy and costs almost 20hp
My 2014 ford racing blue blue up after I tuned it was a fun ride tho and I had the si too and some old man hit me so rip both of them
What is the fastest stock si you’ve driven? I’m thinking about gettin an si for a first car, so I’d like an opinion :D thanks bro, your vids are awesome
Hey thanks man. The 10th is the fastest for sure. Stock for stock, this will beat all other si generations
Cameron Hill thanks man, means a lot :D you’re gonna be big man, let no one nor yt’s dumbshit keep you down💪🏽
Yo!! You’re close to me man! I live in San Francisco and I have the same car lmao
ended up in Northern California? What’s your profession? if you don’t mind me asking. Loving the content as usual bro!
thanks man. I'm active duty Air Force
You gotta try racing a stage one 1.5 now now with the cvt
Don't give up on the CivicX yet, you haven't even reached the power limit yet on that bottom end. Get a performance clutch, then try an aftermarket turbo..
Focus has decent power down low. 30 or a 40 roll is its sweet spot
I think if the knock sensor go up you need tune your car. You live in Florida?
I like the civic still. Focus is nice though
When he like “yeah it just makes “swwshhh swshhh!!” Sound better, I was like.. F E L T 🤝
You got a new sub but remember never be nice to a focus st it likes i needs to be abused or it’ll abuse you lol
Your shifting had a lot to do with it, good races tho👌
Cool video
You need to get her dial in on the dyno.
Yeah man you need the AWE track exhaust, catless downpipe and remove the cat on exhaust. Loud. Backfires.
those ford st are hard to find the older ones
You shoulda race each other at the end when your driving his car ;)
Nice vid. I also always liked them ST. Debated on getting one, but I am a Honda guy. Would love a Type R, but u know, big mark up. So thinking 8th, 9th, or 10th gen SI. Or even an Accord 2.0t. Same engine as Type R. Was reading with the right tune, can keep up or even beat a Type R that is stock. Talk about a Sleeper.
i wouldnt want that accord because its just so long and big compared to the civic. I love how small of a car my civic is. I can park anywhere, small turning radius, etc..
@@Camhill182 so true. Nothing like my 94 accord. Now they are land yachts. Lol
Well get hondata it’s 24 psi which I’m running hondata offers a e85 tune 55 more horse power and those new si motors were built for e85 they love it
wait what the heck is the redline on that 19th gen? You were shifting at like 6200?
Yo revisit this st if not for racing for the vibes take him for a rip and if he still has it i want to see it vs the cobra
2.2 vs. 1.5? Do these cars have torque steer?
Hurts my feelings when people don't atleast go fbo with the ST 😭😭
I love my ST. Handles great for stock, is cheap to make decently quick, and always surprises people. It’s also way sexier than a civic
Interesting how opinions work. I think the design of the ST is super ugly.
@@TheeDevilWearsPrada I agree, I really liked it on paper and it was between the ST, the SI and the WRX. I really didn't like it up close it looks like a mom car
you can brake boost on a tsp btw
Nice video. I would love to see how this SI stacks up with a stock WRX.
I think wrx would win but you never know 🤷♂️
Martin Tintin not to brag or nothing but my si is on the same tune optimized with upgraded intercooler, intake and I walk all stock wrx. Only time they have a chance with me is from 0. But 30-40-60 rolls i say bye bye. I still trying to get a video of me against my brothers type R here soon.
Martin Tintin definitely some bs lol. WRX’s are lunch for my tsp tuned Si. Ive only been beat by a heavily modded wrx and sti’s. The wrx is a boat. And they only make like 220 to the wheels. They look cool but are not that fast...
@Martin Tintin have a 35th myself but certainly am not worried about running a WRX on the highway. I'd be certainly surprised if it pulls me at all. If it does, once my car is tuned it will be all over
@Martin Tintin u start from a dig or roll? I'd love to run one from 20-120
Without watching the video, I knew the ST would win.
230hp stock Focus ST vs 220hp tuned Civic SI.
St has 252 hp
You’re forgetting about power-to-weight ratio buddy. I smack these STs all day. White boy needs driver mod
Why didn't you race him on the map 3 tune, in sport mode?
I just drove a Veloster N performance pack with 275 horse. was a blast.
i want to go test drive one
@@Camhill182 Get ready to fall in love. I MAY get one for a daily if I don't grab a Type R.
I would literally go buy one right now if i didnt think i would lose lots of views
Cameron Hill there’s not many Type R channels it seems.
Wierdly, U remind me of the Paul Walker . Dope vids man
Grant's a boss cause he DFAF about a front plate
You should race him again with your Phearable Stage 1 Tune
I know the Si isn't really that fast, but i love it as my daily driver (coupe). Super fun for a commuter, especially with the fact it is my first brand new car, and with my lame RGB interior mods. One day, with the funds... I'll get my hands on a type-R and mod the shit out of it.
Lmfao, you didn't seem too pleased when he chirped 2nd in your Si.
Are u sure u got your tune straight? I know u were having probs with it. Maybe u should take to a dyno? With tsp u should be gapping the st.
It said it was up around 24.5 psi in the video
I own ST I like both of them no matter which faster
Your full blown Stage 1 was hitting ~25 PSI right? Or were you still getting low boost?
yes, it hits about 25 psi. 24 and some change
I wanted an ST so bad but ford stopped making them, went with a 2019 Si 2dr. My 2 favorite car brands.
So your bi?
ST gave u a start on the second roll
Are those Pepboy exhaust tips on that Civic?
Tom Whitmore what
Nice job, but you will need more than TSP'S stage 1 tune to beat an ST. I raced one in my IS350 and it wasn't even close, but that's not really a fair comparison. Anyway, great videos!
Mirz_786 that’s definitely not true. A properly driven TSP tuned Si will pull away pretty strongly from an ST. I believe he’s only using 91 octane also in these vids. This tune is designed for 93
@@scb5027 I don't know, I'm doubtful. I'm not an ST fan, I did own a 2018 Si with TSP stage 1 but never ran 93 because CA only has 91 so it's possible, but I don't know if 93 really makes that much of a difference, but I guess I'll take your word for it
BTW, he was running it on 91 because you can't get 93 in CA without mixing in some E
Mirz_786 I can say in my personal experience here in Canada that when I run 94 octane opposed to 91 there is a substantial difference. Just my experience though, every car runs different. Love those IS350s though
@@scb5027 Thanks! It kind of sucks we can't get higher than 91, but it is what it is
Dude drive it better like break boost with your left foot I use to do it in my 19 si it’s amazing
Can’t put that awe track exhaust on now with calis new tune laws