@@voxathletica There a was pigeon shooting event in Paris 1900. With real pigeons, not those stupid ersazt made of clay 😱😱 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_at_the_1900_Summer_Olympics
Also Boots in 1920 were deemed very heavy and illegal per rules of using weighted boots for second place and had illegal small metal cleats for said event winners as well as a death by person dragged in the mud because of said boots used by heavy British team.
There was also a war reenactment where they used actual veterans from the war, and 2 of them joined the marathon, to become the first black Africans to compete the Olympics. One of them was the one who got chased by dogs, and the other picked up apples that fell out of a tree, and took a nap to settle his stomach. He took bronze.
my favorite part about the early days of the modern Olympics is that there used to be disciplines for painting and music. I tried finding some pieces from the time, but the only thing I could find was a painting of a bunch of people skiing. was kind of underwhelming
The art competition! I actually covered it briefly in a video from a little while back about the Top 10 Events No Longer In the Olympics, check it out if you have some time
@SimonDoer - As a side note to that the oldest person to ever "compete" in any Olympics was one Winslow Homer an artist who's painting was entered, in 1932 he had actually died around 30 years before. Just as well he didn't win.
At the 4:31 mark - that is Eric Liddell (451). He was born in 1902 so I don't believe he was competing in the 1904 Olympics. He did compete for Great Britain in the 1924 Paris Olympics. Eric Liddell died a hero but not from his sports career.
While working at an airport in my days as a student I actually met a lady from St. Louis and after reading her passport I said:"Ah, St. Louis that's the place of the 1904 Olympics." to which she smiled and replied:"I'm impressed." Told her that these games were controversial even for the standards of the day and that while St.Louis itself was a large city rapidly expanding back then it made "sense" having it there. Told her about the infamous cheating while riding a car in the marathon event to which she replied:"There were cars in 1904??" I replied:"Well, this was 4 years before Ford presented their Model T and cars were rare but existed." She had never heard about this despite being from the city herself. Some time later while researching about popular cars before the famous Model T I learned about the Oldsmobile Curved Dash from 1901. About 19,000 were made until 1907, which certainly qualifies as mass-production considering how complex and time-consuming early automobiles were to build - particularly so before the running-assembly line. The Curved Dash had a 5hp engine and could reach a top speed of 20mph (32km/h). Not so fast perhaps but when one realizes that even the modern day marathon world record of 2 hours translates to an average speed of 21km/h (13mph) I'd say that hitching a ride for 11 miles on an Oldsmobile Curved Dash (if this was the car) back in 1904 certainly both relieved the runner and made him arrive at a somewhat plausible time. There were other cars back in 1904 as well. Fact is that in January, 1904, Frank Leslie's Popular Monthly magazine catalogued the entire range of automobiles available to the mass market in the United States. This list included 61(!) different manufacturers. All gone today except for Cadillac, Ford and Renault. Oldsmobile actually lasted until 2004 which is "fairly recently". I also wonder how that marathon runner got caught. Given that there were no tv cameras (and hardly cameras at all) and the event itself was amateurishly organized how was he discovered? Any rival who recognized his face while he rode the car? His competition number being absent at checkpoints (if such existed) ? Somebody spilled the beans at a local bar telling the patrons he took a marathon runner for a ride? Perhaps he was stupid enough to ride the car still wearing his number for everybody to see so word got around about "that runner who rode the car". Almost all cars back then were open with no roofs. Anyways, I'd say the 1904 Olympics would make a great movie. If it were portrayed as "a satire remarkably close to *actual* history".
Thanks for your detailed post, that's a cool bit of history, thanks for sharing! It totally would make for a great movie, almost seems too crazy for Hollywood lol
@@MartinInBC Brilliant! :) I wish it were so. Apparently it derived its name from a sleigh. It was called the Curved Dash due to the shape of its front section. Named after it's curved footboard, typical of the carriages drawn by horses, that the new horseless carriages were gradually replacing, it was never really seen by the Olds staff as a serious contender for mass production. It was only one of about a dozen prototypes that were being considered, but a disastrous fire at the works destroyed all the others. When I mentioned that cars were rare in 1904 I have recently found this: In 1903 some 4,000 people bought Oldsmobiles, but more than 900,000 bought buggies and carriages (225 times more). No wonder people back then were saying:"These motor-carriages are neat but they will never replace the horse." From the context of the early 1900's it makes sense. If you wanted to go anywhere in town everything was a walking distance away (shops at every corner) and horse-drawn carriages were everywhere. If you wanted to go to another city or town well the railways took you there fast and cheap. Back then railways also passed every small town. Why would you need a car? What people didn't realize was that the car would change society forever. But it's always the same with every new invention. For this reason I guess nobody expected a marathon runner in 1904 to cheat by riding a car. I suppose it was *always* going to happen sooner or later. Considering all kinds of crazy things happened at this infamous olympic games it's fitting though. I wonder what they told the indigenous people at the "human zoo" ? "Just act yourself and pretend you're at your home island...." Never mind the curious people observing them as if they're aliens from another world. This was a seriously bad idea *even* for 1904.
years ago i had read about the st. louis olympics and everything that was bad about them, including the anthropology events. what makes that even worse was the fact that those poor participants weren't even athletic, they were usually out of shape tribal elders who were in their 50's and 60's (but the public wasn't told) and, with the poor results, would further push the racial inferiority/ superiority bs. great video, btw. thanks!
I don't know how the rest of the World's Fair was judged by history, but they did leave us two legacies, thanks to the intense heat: iced tea and the ice cream cone were both introduced there, partly in desperation. As for the Olympics, 1904 was so bad that the IOC chose to arrange a replacement event, the "intercalated" games in 1906, in Athens.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the soccer competition which was contested by a club team from Canada and two club teams from St. Louis. That's it, 3 clubs. The Canadian club, Galt FC, won the gold medal defeating the two St. Louis clubs 7-0 and 4-0, respectively. It was the last event of these Olympics, contested in late November. Great video, apart from that.
France planning to try to clean up the Seine for 2024 of feces reminds me of how four water polo players died from typhus within a year from cattle using the artificial lake were the swimming events happened.
Yeah, the Seine needed cleaning and were some tragic moments that happened while the opening ceremony was happening, but other than that, the 2024 games were not that bad, there were still many highlights and enjoyable moments.
I could believe that, I was really surprised during the research for this video at how large and prosperous St. Louis was at the time of the games, it was truly one of the major American cities. Still a sizeable city to this day at least
@@night6724 I could believe it for sure, and given how it was growing at the turn of the 20th century I can understand the momentum. Weird to think about now though, isn't it? I mean anywhere other than Washington would feel strange
@@voxathletica It's not only the Seine I'm afraid... But that's the French for you. They've never been renowned for their tidiness. They know how to patch things up here and there a little though. Can't wait for LA '28 and Brisbane '32. I'm going to be a middle aged man by then, but I'm sure it will be worth it. Also, you guys did great in Montreal, Calgary and Vancouver. I can still hear "Can you feel it?" in my head these days. Best wishes from Poland! 😉❤️🇵🇱🇨🇦❤️
An idea for a future tug-of-war event at the Olympics: each country has a team of 10 guys (or a few more). In the first round, each team picks 5 without knowing which five the opposing team will pick. In the second round, the other 5 have to pull. If the score is 1-1 after two rounds, the teams can reshuffle their team to ensure the win in the last round. Teams will have to strategically determine in which round they will use their strongest guys and in which they will use the weaker ones. This may lead to strong countries losing because they underestimated the opponent. At the same time, if they consistently use their strongest guys, those will be left exhausted for the later stages of the tournament on the same day.
That's a cool concept, I like it! Step One is just getting ToW back in the Olympics in general, but I'm digging your idea to make it even more interesting and strategic
Imagine if it went on for 5 months today. I think we would get sick of it today because they would be televised all day. I love the olympics, its a good once every 4 years entertainment that goes for 2-3 weeks
@@voxathletica countries go in to crippling dept because of it now. And it only runs for under a month... Imagine how much 5 months will kill the nation. Lol
Very interesting, thank you! I had no idea that these olympics were that bad (especially the "human zoo": yikes!). In the section on "wild events" however you missed the imo craziest olympic event ever, the "barrel jumping". Don't know the rules, but a well-known photo shows the competitors jumping head-first through a bottomless barrel dangling horizontally about a meter above ground.
Wow, I'd never heard of that one and didn't come across it, I'll have to look it up! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope you like my other Olympics videos just as much!
@@voxathletica That and the Expos aren’t as prominent as they use to be. Plus Expo now happens every 5 years so it’d be a specific year for there to be an overlap (Expo 2025 is in Japan) so the next possible time assuming Expo continued on its 5 year interval is 2040 (also assuming there’s no WWIII or pandemic that gets everything cancelled) Also TBF Expo is a multi month long event that sometimes overlaps summer so the Olympics probably wouldn’t really be sharing the spotlight that much especially since the Expos aren’t as relevant as they use to be (I know I was surprised when I learned they still do World Fair Expos quinquennially) but I also think the stars aligning for one city to get both is extremely unlikely.
The anti-woke people are becoming just as annoying and tribal as the woke people. The entire Olympics were bad because you had to see a few drag queens at the opening ceremony, ey?
For sure, that's one positive contribution! It was also the first time that Boxing was in the Olympics and it has been there ever since. So I guess it wasn't 100% awful lol
Right? So many reasons this one was a headscratcher... I get the whole alignment with the world's fair, but surely somewhere like Boston or New York would have made sense too
Very informative, but quite a few of the photos are not from 1904. e.g. Dorando Pietro being helped across the line in the marathon was 1908. Pavo Nurmi wasn't running until the 1920s.
Yes, it was an extreme struggle trying to find images from 1904, and obviously no video. So I had to take liberties, but my goal was to remain authentic to the story being told and the 1904 Olympics themselves, hopefully I was able to do that with limited resources
@lamelists Fair play though..... I'm really enjoying your videos. Amazing job to find all the photos and footage as it is. Give your researcher a medal! 😉 Thanks 😀
TBF, the Anthropology Days wasn't unique to the Games. It was the normal thing back then. Disgusting from our perspective, sure, but normal. Barnum and Bailey Circus. Sarah Baartman. The African Exhibition at the Crystal Palace.
@@backalleycqc4790 Thank you so much, I appreciate the compliment! I'm a first time TH-camr with this channel, so I'm very much learning as I go, it's nice to hear that I'm moving in the right direction
That temperature during the Marathon is most definitely not boiling hot. That would be a nice breezing weather during summer in Greece where, you know, the actual Marathon takes place.
Have you experienced Midwest summer humidity? That St Louis marathon would have been spicy hot... and Pheidippides didn't have to dodge vehicles on his run either LOL
Ironically the 1904 St. Louis Olympics considered one of the worst of the modern Olympics was held at the exact same time as the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. The fair was then considered the modern prototype for every large or huge scale held ever since. Some people who were there considered the 1904 St. Louis fair the greatest event of mankind up to that time and some historians still consider the 1904 fair the greatest world's fair and exhibition that the world has ever witnessed, even today. The 1904 fair has become truly legendary over time and the city of St. Louis has never fully recovered in a way from the status and prestige of hosting that event, more than a century later. The 1944 Judy Garland classic Meet Me in St. Louis movie was based on the events that happened at the 1904 St. Louis fair.
Having the Olympics alongside the World's Fair was a bold move and, as discussed in the video, it both helped and it hurt to be sure. I appreciate some of the other details you put in your comments, thanks for adding to the discussion
1915 Pan American Exposition in San Diego had a popular peep show where you'd pay to peek through holes in a fence at "nudist" antics. Sort of like the flicker shows that kept getting chased out of towns (or bribed police to not). Within a few years, two nudist camps were set up in San Diego because that was supposed to be the home of nudism. Yep. Some years later, because of movies, people began trying to surf in Southern California, despite very cold water in early summer, and almost no waves.
@@floycewhite6991and still trying to surf, last year during my summer vacations there were cleaning and preparing for an international surf event and yes cold sea water and no waves 😅
@floycewhite6991 The 1915 Pan-Am Exposition was held in the city of San Francisco, not in San Diego. It was held in San Francisco to show the rest of the U.S. of the capability of the city to run a big world class event and to show off the city's recovery after the devastating effects to the city after the great 1906 earthquake.
Also they showed Jerónimo as a novelty and not in a good way 😮. A bad organization and in 1996 olympics was showed again with the security fact was a bomb detonated 😮 It's good to know that the marathon winner was striped of the gold medal. Fun fact the cuban athlete in the marathon got a quick nap and won a medal 😅
The Olympics today doesnt take a back seat. The Olympics today is left standing on the side of the road as motorists drive by, with news crews driving by as well, windering why no one else is stopping.
@@voxathletica Speaking of hockey, can you make a list of who your lines would look like for the upcoming Winter Olympics hockey events? I think Binner would be the #2 goalie.
@@ariccua6101 I'll let others weigh in, but with the games a couple of years away, it's hard to project for the USA. Jake Oettinger and Connor Hellebuyck might be my picks for G
@@voxathletica Cool stuff. Kinda hard to pick a goalie for Canada, though, for now, it's Hill, Binner, and Kuemper. I agree with the US goalies, though.
@@ariccua6101 Hill for sure. Jarry and Thompson probably have a shot too, but goalie will be a big problem for Canada unless someone really steps up in the next year or so
This Olympics was so bad that most European countries did not participate. That is why the faux 1906 games were held in Europe to help make up for thier absence!
The tug of war was actually cleated tug of war. Not stand up. Which in itself is brutal. Only two teams are known to me exist to this day. We in new zealand and Indonesia still use cleated tug of war. But instead of distance. We pull time.
Oh my gosh... 15 years later there White Sox of Chicsgo threw theie game. Chicago and their Columbia expedition and this. Yet no one can put it together without putting 2 girls agaisnt each other.
Exactly, so dumb. It was mainly to align with the Louisiana Purchase Exhibition happening at the same time in the same city, but really it's also a combination of poor infrastructure, terrible administration, and a lack of experience since the Olympics were so new. The Paris 1900 Olympics and the London 1908 were similarly long too!
@@voxathleticaor because it was only like the third olympics, this was still a new thing and not great technology I feel like the Summer Olympics being all summer long is a neat idea
I still think the Ancient Greek games these days would be a hit especially Nude Greco Roman wrestling actually all the events were contested in the nude put that on ESPN lol
The idea of the Olympics was stolen from the British as they had a yearly amateur athletics competition for years prior,still carries on. The wenlock Olympian games
Indeed, you're right. But it's awfully hard to find footage and images from 1904, so I tried to be as faithful to the times as I could be while getting my ideas and points across
I don't know officially, but considering it was a pond, I'm gonna guess there was at least some. But was there as much as the Seine? That's an open question.
I couldn't agree more, but those pesky IOC folks seem set on it. Ironically, the 1906 Mesolympic Games are much more like the Olympic games, but they DON'T count it. So weird. I have a whole video coming on the 1906 games in a couple of weeks, it's fascinating
No wonder the US has won the most Olympic medals. Just host a home games and make sure almost everybody that is competing is from that country. Genius!
Makes you wonder how differently these games would have gone if Chicago hosted. I'd like to think they would have gone better, because I doubt they could have gone worse
In this video, I was talking about more the organization, infrastructure, operations, attendance, etc. of the Olympic games, not the outside events that occurred. As the tragedy at Munich wasn't the fault of the Olympics or the IOC, I felt it was fair to differentiate in this case
Right!?! I mean, some would argue that cramming as much as they do into 2 weeks is not short, but if anything extend it by like a week, not 5 months lol
The only thing surprising about any of this this is why this guy is so surprised by any of this! Historically, humans can be cruel, unethical and downright weird in our journey of learning. Or hadn't he noticed? And by the way, there is nothing at all weird about competitors being from the same club. That still happens today, including having the same coach. Read something, Dude, read!
1) I never said I was surprised by any of it, I said that this was the worst Olympics ever and spelled out my reasons why 2) As someone who posts videos on the internet, I am very, very, very familiar with how humans can be cruel, unethical, and downright weird 3) I did indeed read something, how do you think I managed to put together the video? First hand, eye-witness accounts from my personal time at these Olympics?
@@voxathletica Oh my. Methinks thou doth protest too much ... Listen to yourself again, drama queen - it is mostly about your shocked tone which never lets up all through the video, even at the most innocuous of things. Why not just read it straight?
@@nutmeg208 I find it hugely ironic that you quote from the greatest piece of dramatic writing of all time in a sarcastic manner and then say I should be reading this script straight. This video is meant to be a combination of information and entertainment, part of the latter comes from the way in which the words are presented verbally. If you're looking for a straight reading of the facts, I suggest next time you note that the channel is called "Lame Lists" and not "The Washington Post" or "A&E".
@@nutmeg208 That's it, don't actually address the words in the response, make it about the person responding. Again the irony: you say I don't take criticism well, but as soon as I push back on your criticism, you deflect and withdraw, saying "never mind". Mirrors are tough to look into, aren't they? Thanks for checking out the video and engaging in the comments
7:48 Here the video talks about swimming events and where they were held, showing a picture of what is clearly women. Then, 10 or so seconds later it says women didn’t participate? Confused.
Women didn't compete indeed, was just trying to get some footage that was topical to both women and swimming for the section. Video and other relevant media from 1904 is tough to come by!
Yes indeed, it is extremely difficult to find enough photos (and zero videos) to fill such a long video. So while it's not 100% accurate, I was instead aiming for 100% authentic to the time period and topics being discussed
I spoke with the world’s foremost Olympic historian, David Wallechibsky, he said that the Olympics would have turned out ok if they waited 2 months but NBC wouldn’t budge.
Fun fact: Great Britain is the only country to have won a gold medal at every summer Olympics. However, their one gold at the 1904 Games was won by an Irishman called Tom Kiely, who expressly did not want to run under the British flag. The British offered to pay his way if he competed for them but he refused, raising funds by himself in Ireland. He attempted to replace the Union Jack with the Irish flag at the medal ceremony. For good measure, the only other medal won at the 1904 Games by the British was by another Irishman.
They did, eight years earlier. I appreciate that it takes time to iron out the creases, but this Olympics was a regression from 1896 and 1900, not a step forward
Side note about Olympic Tug-of-War: the main reason it was discontinued was because participants were losing fingers.
Good video 👍🏾
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Thanks! I appreciate the thumbs up... not said by the Tug-of-War people apparently
@@voxathletica There a was pigeon shooting event in Paris 1900. With real pigeons, not those stupid ersazt made of clay 😱😱
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_at_the_1900_Summer_Olympics
@@voxathletica Boo! Lol
Also Boots in 1920 were deemed very heavy and illegal per rules of using weighted boots for second place and had illegal small metal cleats for said event winners as well as a death by person dragged in the mud because of said boots used by heavy British team.
1908 was the first "normal" Games.
The first three Games anyone could just turn up and compete-even if they were all from the hosting country
The early years of the Olympics were absolutely wild, the 1900 Paris Games were insane in their own right lol
Ah the first London games.
1900 was the only Olympics that had no wrestling at all, although the 1896 Olympics held wrestling with only a single weight class
1906 I would say, even though they're now not considered as official ones, thanks to them we still have Olympics nowadays
There was also a war reenactment where they used actual veterans from the war, and 2 of them joined the marathon, to become the first black Africans to compete the Olympics. One of them was the one who got chased by dogs, and the other picked up apples that fell out of a tree, and took a nap to settle his stomach. He took bronze.
Everything about that marathon is insane. Each fact gets wilder and wilder than the last lol
From which war?
@@esceptikonuio Not sure which one, but one of the Boer Wars. UK and South Africa.
Take nap and win a bronze !
@@esceptikonuio the great afro american watermelon war of 02..
my favorite part about the early days of the modern Olympics is that there used to be disciplines for painting and music. I tried finding some pieces from the time, but the only thing I could find was a painting of a bunch of people skiing. was kind of underwhelming
The art competition! I actually covered it briefly in a video from a little while back about the Top 10 Events No Longer In the Olympics, check it out if you have some time
@SimonDoer - As a side note to that the oldest person to ever "compete" in any Olympics was one Winslow Homer an artist who's painting was entered, in 1932 he had actually died around 30 years before. Just as well he didn't win.
Ballet used to be in it too
@@voxathletica Oh boy, I'm checling that out! Thank you.
Now we have ( or had ) Break Dancing.
2024 "Hold my Chardonnay".
*Chef's Kiss
😂😂😂😂Honestly, this was the most hilarious thing I've seen and heard in my 78 years.😂😂Thanks a million.
Glad you liked it!
At the 4:31 mark - that is Eric Liddell (451). He was born in 1902 so I don't believe he was competing in the 1904 Olympics. He did compete for Great Britain in the 1924 Paris Olympics. Eric Liddell died a hero but not from his sports career.
Full respect to that man, he did more in his 43 years than most do in 10 lifetimes
I believe he was featured in Chariots of Fire?
@@beorlingoyes he was.
@@beorlingoThe film was mainly about Eric and his rival, Harold Abrahams, another Brit 😊🇬🇧
While working at an airport in my days as a student I actually met a lady from St. Louis and after reading her passport I said:"Ah, St. Louis that's the place of the 1904 Olympics." to which she smiled and replied:"I'm impressed." Told her that these games were controversial even for the standards of the day and that while St.Louis itself was a large city rapidly expanding back then it made "sense" having it there. Told her about the infamous cheating while riding a car in the marathon event to which she replied:"There were cars in 1904??" I replied:"Well, this was 4 years before Ford presented their Model T and cars were rare but existed." She had never heard about this despite being from the city herself.
Some time later while researching about popular cars before the famous Model T I learned about the Oldsmobile Curved Dash from 1901. About 19,000 were made until 1907, which certainly qualifies as mass-production considering how complex and time-consuming early automobiles were to build - particularly so before the running-assembly line.
The Curved Dash had a 5hp engine and could reach a top speed of 20mph (32km/h). Not so fast perhaps but when one realizes that even the modern day marathon world record of 2 hours translates to an average speed of 21km/h (13mph) I'd say that hitching a ride for 11 miles on an Oldsmobile Curved Dash (if this was the car) back in 1904 certainly both relieved the runner and made him arrive at a somewhat plausible time.
There were other cars back in 1904 as well. Fact is that in January, 1904, Frank Leslie's Popular Monthly magazine catalogued the entire range of automobiles available to the mass market in the United States. This list included 61(!) different manufacturers. All gone today except for Cadillac, Ford and Renault. Oldsmobile actually lasted until 2004 which is "fairly recently".
I also wonder how that marathon runner got caught. Given that there were no tv cameras (and hardly cameras at all) and the event itself was amateurishly organized how was he discovered? Any rival who recognized his face while he rode the car? His competition number being absent at checkpoints (if such existed) ? Somebody spilled the beans at a local bar telling the patrons he took a marathon runner for a ride? Perhaps he was stupid enough to ride the car still wearing his number for everybody to see so word got around about "that runner who rode the car". Almost all cars back then were open with no roofs.
Anyways, I'd say the 1904 Olympics would make a great movie. If it were portrayed as "a satire remarkably close to *actual* history".
Thanks for your detailed post, that's a cool bit of history, thanks for sharing! It totally would make for a great movie, almost seems too crazy for Hollywood lol
Was the Curved Dash named after the athletics 200m event?
@@MartinInBC Brilliant! :)
I wish it were so.
Apparently it derived its name from a sleigh. It was called the Curved Dash due to the shape of its front section.
Named after it's curved footboard, typical of the carriages drawn by horses, that the new horseless carriages were gradually replacing, it was never really seen by the Olds staff as a serious contender for mass production. It was only one of about a dozen prototypes that were being considered, but a disastrous fire at the works destroyed all the others.
When I mentioned that cars were rare in 1904 I have recently found this: In 1903 some 4,000 people bought Oldsmobiles, but more than 900,000 bought buggies and carriages (225 times more).
No wonder people back then were saying:"These motor-carriages are neat but they will never replace the horse."
From the context of the early 1900's it makes sense. If you wanted to go anywhere in town everything was a walking distance away (shops at every corner) and horse-drawn carriages were everywhere. If you wanted to go to another city or town well the railways took you there fast and cheap. Back then railways also passed every small town. Why would you need a car?
What people didn't realize was that the car would change society forever.
But it's always the same with every new invention.
For this reason I guess nobody expected a marathon runner in 1904 to cheat by riding a car. I suppose it was *always* going to happen sooner or later. Considering all kinds of crazy things happened at this infamous olympic games it's fitting though.
I wonder what they told the indigenous people at the "human zoo" ?
"Just act yourself and pretend you're at your home island...."
Never mind the curious people observing them as if they're aliens from another world.
This was a seriously bad idea *even* for 1904.
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years ago i had read about the st. louis olympics and everything that was bad about them, including the anthropology events. what makes that even worse was the fact that those poor participants weren't even athletic, they were usually out of shape tribal elders who were in their 50's and 60's (but the public wasn't told) and, with the poor results, would further push the racial inferiority/ superiority bs. great video, btw. thanks!
It was such a ridiculous Olympics on so many levels, but the anthropology days were a historic low point. Glad you liked the video!
To be fair, by today's standards even the actual athletes from 1904 weren't athletic.
I don't know how the rest of the World's Fair was judged by history, but they did leave us two legacies, thanks to the intense heat: iced tea and the ice cream cone were both introduced there, partly in desperation.
As for the Olympics, 1904 was so bad that the IOC chose to arrange a replacement event, the "intercalated" games in 1906, in Athens.
The 1906 games are fascinating, I literally just finished a script today for that one! Video coming in the next couple of weeks I hope
I'm surprised you didn't mention the soccer competition which was contested by a club team from Canada and two club teams from St. Louis. That's it, 3 clubs. The Canadian club, Galt FC, won the gold medal defeating the two St. Louis clubs 7-0 and 4-0, respectively. It was the last event of these Olympics, contested in late November. Great video, apart from that.
Appreciate the kudos on the video, thanks! And true, there was plenty I didn't mention that I could (should) have, 1904 in St Louis was wild!
Winners would have had Silver for winner then Gold for second then Bronze.
I still think it's ok, as rules is rules.
This was the best the USA did at Olympic Soccer for men. Winning Second & Third. The "Canadian" team was mostly British nationals.
France planning to try to clean up the Seine for 2024 of feces reminds me of how four water polo players died from typhus within a year from cattle using the artificial lake were the swimming events happened.
Unreal.... yeah let's hope that doesn't get repeated this year
@@voxathletica Well, in a way it did.
Solid video! Makes me reminisce of the classic Jon Bois video on the subject
Thank you!
1904: "We went down as the worst Olympics in history!!"
2024: Hold me wine and cheese!!
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It definitely seemed like the cleanliness of the Seine hadn't changed much
Yeah, the Seine needed cleaning and were some tragic moments that happened while the opening ceremony was happening, but other than that, the 2024 games were not that bad, there were still many highlights and enjoyable moments.
Definitely want the Tug Of War to return!
100% for sure, who wouldn't wanna watch that?!
7:28
Tug o' War survived at the OG surprisingly long - to 1920, so it wasn't too strange.
Also was weight throw.
Oh for sure re. the TOW, wouldn't half mind that one coming back!
You know you've done something wrong when the Founder refuses to attend.
LOL for sure, that's pretty solid evidence you're on the wrong track
Another fact about this one: St. Louis has a LOWER population today than it had in 1904.
I could believe that, I was really surprised during the research for this video at how large and prosperous St. Louis was at the time of the games, it was truly one of the major American cities. Still a sizeable city to this day at least
@@voxathleticaI read at one point it was considered being made the new capital of America since it’s in the center of the country
@@night6724 I could believe it for sure, and given how it was growing at the turn of the 20th century I can understand the momentum. Weird to think about now though, isn't it? I mean anywhere other than Washington would feel strange
The 1904 Games sounded like a real S**t Show so hopefully admission was free ( at least🙄)
@@ROBYNMARKOW If it was, at least the price would have been right
The hills on that marathon route are INSANE. It was just painful even today.
Imagine the uproar from athletes if they had to do a marathon on that course today lol
the Olympic committee should remove the 1904 games from all records and declare the 1904 games never happened
Even better, they should forget these games and reinstate the 1906 Intercalated Games!
Paris 2024: hold my frog leg
LOL that Seine doesn't sound like it got fully clean, that's for sure
@@voxathletica It's not only the Seine I'm afraid... But that's the French for you. They've never been renowned for their tidiness. They know how to patch things up here and there a little though. Can't wait for LA '28 and Brisbane '32. I'm going to be a middle aged man by then, but I'm sure it will be worth it. Also, you guys did great in Montreal, Calgary and Vancouver. I can still hear "Can you feel it?" in my head these days. Best wishes from Poland! 😉❤️🇵🇱🇨🇦❤️
@@jeshkam Cheers from Canada!
@@voxathletica 🤜🤛
See my comment, similar.
An idea for a future tug-of-war event at the Olympics: each country has a team of 10 guys (or a few more). In the first round, each team picks 5 without knowing which five the opposing team will pick. In the second round, the other 5 have to pull. If the score is 1-1 after two rounds, the teams can reshuffle their team to ensure the win in the last round. Teams will have to strategically determine in which round they will use their strongest guys and in which they will use the weaker ones. This may lead to strong countries losing because they underestimated the opponent. At the same time, if they consistently use their strongest guys, those will be left exhausted for the later stages of the tournament on the same day.
That's a cool concept, I like it! Step One is just getting ToW back in the Olympics in general, but I'm digging your idea to make it even more interesting and strategic
Some of the participants didn't know they were participating in Olympic,that also happened in 1900 in Paris games.
Absolutely! I did a whole other video on the Paris 1900 Olympics, check it out if you have some time
@@voxathletica I will,greetings from Russia and Greece
@@aleksthegreat4130 Cheers from Canada
My favorite event from the 1904 Olympics was a mud fight--as part of the Anthropology Days, of course. I'm not kidding. Look it up.
No matter how wild something was, it was probably at the 1904 Olympics 🤣
Imagine if it went on for 5 months today. I think we would get sick of it today because they would be televised all day. I love the olympics, its a good once every 4 years entertainment that goes for 2-3 weeks
Absolutely agree, a couple of weeks is perfect for attention spans. And think of the logistics of having to host it for 5 months, it's wild!
@@voxathletica countries go in to crippling dept because of it now. And it only runs for under a month... Imagine how much 5 months will kill the nation. Lol
the 1904's marathon is such a fucking legendary story
No kidding, for me it might just be a top 10 all-time sports story. Every fact you hear about it is more absurd and ridiculous than the last
Very interesting, thank you! I had no idea that these olympics were that bad (especially the "human zoo": yikes!). In the section on "wild events" however you missed the imo craziest olympic event ever, the "barrel jumping". Don't know the rules, but a well-known photo shows the competitors jumping head-first through a bottomless barrel dangling horizontally about a meter above ground.
Wow, I'd never heard of that one and didn't come across it, I'll have to look it up! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope you like my other Olympics videos just as much!
I like the idea of someone who does something for a living vs living to do something and the results are fine.
That was definitely the original spirit of the Olympics, all about "amateur" athletic competition and certainly not professionals doing it as a job
When the narrator said "WTF" then it's the worst Olympic Games indeed.
You know it's hitting a low point when a "WTF" gets dropped
the idea of the olympics and world’s fair being together sounds awesome
I can see how, in the modern era, it could be awesome. Though that said, I doubt the IOC would EVER want to share the spotlight again lol
@@voxathletica That and the Expos aren’t as prominent as they use to be. Plus Expo now happens every 5 years so it’d be a specific year for there to be an overlap (Expo 2025 is in Japan) so the next possible time assuming Expo continued on its 5 year interval is 2040 (also assuming there’s no WWIII or pandemic that gets everything cancelled)
Also TBF Expo is a multi month long event that sometimes overlaps summer so the Olympics probably wouldn’t really be sharing the spotlight that much especially since the Expos aren’t as relevant as they use to be (I know I was surprised when I learned they still do World Fair Expos quinquennially) but I also think the stars aligning for one city to get both is extremely unlikely.
Cool video. Hopefully this channel takes off.
Appreciate it! It's my first YT channel, so I'm learning as I go :)
The Olympic games of 1904 are the worse ever:
Paris 2024: Hold my blasphemous naked blue guy.
They definitely didn't have that guy in 1904 in St Louis
Wait till 2028 L.A. will set a new record
The anti-woke people are becoming just as annoying and tribal as the woke people. The entire Olympics were bad because you had to see a few drag queens at the opening ceremony, ey?
5:20 Fortunately no longer the _only_ global championship marathon ever run in hell. Consider the 2019 World Champs marathon in Doha. 🔥
LOL that's about as hot as it gets! St Louis got nothing on Qatar
I think the 1904 Olympics were the first to use gold, silver and bronze medals.. so at least there was one positive legacy!
For sure, that's one positive contribution! It was also the first time that Boxing was in the Olympics and it has been there ever since. So I guess it wasn't 100% awful lol
@@voxathletica Very interesting! Great video man! 👏👍
@@stephenoreilly5696 Thanks, glad you liked it!
when almost all international travel was by boat it seemed crazy to have the olympics in a city that was a long way inland .
Right? So many reasons this one was a headscratcher... I get the whole alignment with the world's fair, but surely somewhere like Boston or New York would have made sense too
Very informative, but quite a few of the photos are not from 1904. e.g. Dorando Pietro being helped across the line in the marathon was 1908. Pavo Nurmi wasn't running until the 1920s.
Yes, it was an extreme struggle trying to find images from 1904, and obviously no video. So I had to take liberties, but my goal was to remain authentic to the story being told and the 1904 Olympics themselves, hopefully I was able to do that with limited resources
@lamelists Fair play though..... I'm really enjoying your videos. Amazing job to find all the photos and footage as it is. Give your researcher a medal! 😉
Thanks 😀
TBF, the Anthropology Days wasn't unique to the Games. It was the normal thing back then. Disgusting from our perspective, sure, but normal. Barnum and Bailey Circus. Sarah Baartman. The African Exhibition at the Crystal Palace.
It being so normal kinda makes it even worse
there was nothing wrong with it and they should bring it back
As an Anthropologist, I approve a return to "Anthropology Days" in the next Olympics, both summer and winter events.
As an anthropologist, would you advocate for something similar to St. Louis or a more modern take on things?
@@voxathletica No, I wouldn't, I was joking. These "Anthropology Days" couldn't have been more racist unless they were called "Cannibal Days."
@@backalleycqc4790 Horrific stuff, hard to believe it even happened!
@@voxathletica Yup, my thoughts exactly. By the way, excellent video, you have a great natural style when you narrate.
@@backalleycqc4790 Thank you so much, I appreciate the compliment! I'm a first time TH-camr with this channel, so I'm very much learning as I go, it's nice to hear that I'm moving in the right direction
That temperature during the Marathon is most definitely not boiling hot. That would be a nice breezing weather during summer in Greece where, you know, the actual Marathon takes place.
Have you experienced Midwest summer humidity? That St Louis marathon would have been spicy hot... and Pheidippides didn't have to dodge vehicles on his run either LOL
Los Angeles 1984 was very hot, mens marathon starting at 5pm local time for the benefit of TV
In the early games, there was live pigeon shoots too.
YES! So wild to think about in hindsight
Ironically the 1904 St. Louis Olympics considered one of the worst of the modern Olympics was held at the exact same time as the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. The fair was then considered the modern prototype for every large or huge scale held ever since. Some people who were there considered the 1904 St. Louis fair the greatest event of mankind up to that time and some historians still consider the 1904 fair the greatest world's fair and exhibition that the world has ever witnessed, even today. The 1904 fair has become truly legendary over time and the city of St. Louis has never fully recovered in a way from the status and prestige of hosting that event, more than a century later. The 1944 Judy Garland classic Meet Me in St. Louis movie was based on the events that happened at the 1904 St. Louis fair.
Having the Olympics alongside the World's Fair was a bold move and, as discussed in the video, it both helped and it hurt to be sure. I appreciate some of the other details you put in your comments, thanks for adding to the discussion
1915 Pan American Exposition in San Diego had a popular peep show where you'd pay to peek through holes in a fence at "nudist" antics. Sort of like the flicker shows that kept getting chased out of towns (or bribed police to not). Within a few years, two nudist camps were set up in San Diego because that was supposed to be the home of nudism. Yep. Some years later, because of movies, people began trying to surf in Southern California, despite very cold water in early summer, and almost no waves.
@@floycewhite6991and still trying to surf, last year during my summer vacations there were cleaning and preparing for an international surf event and yes cold sea water and no waves 😅
@floycewhite6991 The 1915 Pan-Am Exposition was held in the city of San Francisco, not in San Diego. It was held in San Francisco to show the rest of the U.S. of the capability of the city to run a big world class event and to show off the city's recovery after the devastating effects to the city after the great 1906 earthquake.
Well, at least they did not feature breakdancing...
LOL they did have that going for them, I'll give 'em that
Weirdly I feel like you could rename this “the best ever” and it would *also* somehow be accurate 😂
I suppose it all depends on what you feel makes it the best or the worst. It's all subjective in the end lol
Started before the 4th of uly ended around Thanksgiving 😂
It's unbelievable, but maybe they wanted to align with the holidays? haha
@@voxathletica and they didn't have ridiculous events like skateboarding and break dancing back then...lol
Also they showed Jerónimo as a novelty and not in a good way 😮. A bad organization and in 1996 olympics was showed again with the security fact was a bomb detonated 😮
It's good to know that the marathon winner was striped of the gold medal. Fun fact the cuban athlete in the marathon got a quick nap and won a medal 😅
Seriously, those 1904 games (and that marathon especially) were INSANE
The Olympics today doesnt take a back seat.
The Olympics today is left standing on the side of the road as motorists drive by, with news crews driving by as well, windering why no one else is stopping.
It still seems pretty popular to me
World's Fair organizers might have gotten the Jordan Binnington "do I look nervous" reaction at the time.
(Just a nod to the NHL's Blues.)
LOL great reference
@@voxathletica Speaking of hockey, can you make a list of who your lines would look like for the upcoming Winter Olympics hockey events?
I think Binner would be the #2 goalie.
@@ariccua6101 I'll let others weigh in, but with the games a couple of years away, it's hard to project for the USA. Jake Oettinger and Connor Hellebuyck might be my picks for G
@@voxathletica Cool stuff. Kinda hard to pick a goalie for Canada, though, for now, it's Hill, Binner, and Kuemper.
I agree with the US goalies, though.
@@ariccua6101 Hill for sure. Jarry and Thompson probably have a shot too, but goalie will be a big problem for Canada unless someone really steps up in the next year or so
This Olympics was so bad that most European countries did not participate. That is why the faux 1906 games were held in Europe to help make up for thier absence!
Makes sense! And those 1906 games were about a hundred times better than this one, so they sure made up for it
Not any more....Paris 2024 now holds the record for this
What didn't you like about the Paris 2024 Olympics?
Tug of war was in the 1900 through the 1920 Olympics ... It just wasn't STL.
Tug of War oughta make a comeback, I stand behind that idea
In the early years of the Olympics the IOC had no idea what the hell they were doing lol
LOL yes, I think that's a fair statement. Thankfully they figured it out eventually!
The tug of war was actually cleated tug of war. Not stand up. Which in itself is brutal. Only two teams are known to me exist to this day. We in new zealand and Indonesia still use cleated tug of war. But instead of distance. We pull time.
Either way, amazing sport, I'd love to see that return to the games
Oh my gosh... 15 years later there White Sox of Chicsgo threw theie game. Chicago and their Columbia expedition and this. Yet no one can put it together without putting 2 girls agaisnt each other.
That Black Sox story is wild, I've got a video in the works on that one too
Why were the Olympics takin place for several months instead of just two weeks
Exactly, so dumb. It was mainly to align with the Louisiana Purchase Exhibition happening at the same time in the same city, but really it's also a combination of poor infrastructure, terrible administration, and a lack of experience since the Olympics were so new. The Paris 1900 Olympics and the London 1908 were similarly long too!
@@voxathletica I wasn’t around back then. I probably wouldn’t know it anyway.
@@voxathleticaor because it was only like the third olympics, this was still a new thing and not great technology
I feel like the Summer Olympics being all summer long is a neat idea
The Olympics founder was great fellow.
Pierre de Coubertin, he's got a fascinating biography!
St Louis is even fuqqed today, so there.
Imagine an Olympics held there now
St. Louis has about half the population it did then
Yes really sad from kind of glory back then and now condidered one of the most dangerous cities in US 😮
@@denniscain7218 what a thriving place lol
I live in the St Louis area. I Love it here.
…until 2024.
What, you don't like triathletes getting e. coli in the Seine?
Their record has been broken!
By Paris 2024?
back in those days you had Olympic art competition
And for several decades too! Incredible
Sounds pretty zany. But still, who wouldn’t want to go back in a time machine to see it lol.
It would be a heck of a sight to see, that's for sure!
0:10 Bulma’s team
What is Bulma?
I still think the Ancient Greek games these days would be a hit especially Nude Greco Roman wrestling actually all the events were contested in the nude put that on ESPN lol
LOL that has pay per view written all over it, it would make a fortune haha
@@voxathletica Where would they put the corporate sponsorships?
@@donjackson5522 If you have to ask, you don't wanna know
Well.. I’ll stop complaining about breakdancing being in the Olympics, they had sack racing. SACK RACING 😂
Not gonna lie, I probably would have preferred that to Breaking
At least in 1904, Men weren’t boxing against women. 2024 is disgraceful.
I saw the news on that one, quite the drama. And I doubt this is the last time it will come up
In 1904 women weren't allowed box
@@bfc3057women couldn’t box until 2012
@@night6724 yes, so in 1904 women weren't allowed box
@@bfc3057 as he said it was an exhibition
The idea of the Olympics was stolen from the British as they had a yearly amateur athletics competition for years prior,still carries on. The wenlock Olympian games
Usually it's the British stealing from the rest of the world, interesting
Bro you missed Norman Pritchard
He competed at the 1900 Olympics, why would I include him in this video about the 1904 Olympics?
Until 2024 when RayGun took the crown for Worst possible Olympics 🙃 😂
Ah Raygun. I'll say this: she is now firmly cemented in Olympic lore, not many folks can lay claim to that
the picture of the women swimmers wouldnt been from the olympcs womens aquatic events wouldnt be added until 1912 8 years later
Indeed, you're right. But it's awfully hard to find footage and images from 1904, so I tried to be as faithful to the times as I could be while getting my ideas and points across
Wow, so you watched those Olympics firsthand? Are you 150 years old or something?
Yes exactly, and rather than capitalizing on being the oldest person in history, I decided to start a faceless TH-cam channel. Right call? Wrong call?
@@voxathleticaRight call :)
@@TomMarvan I concur :)
We're they swimming in poo and pee pee water like in Paris?
I don't know officially, but considering it was a pond, I'm gonna guess there was at least some. But was there as much as the Seine? That's an open question.
Worst Olympics? The USA specializes in pure incompetence for hosting the games. 1994 is my preference.
94?
Sorry, 1996 in Atlanta.
So you'd put 1996 ahead of these 1904 Olympics for the worst ever?
The 1904 World Fair Games shouldn’t be counted at Olympic Games… 😂
I couldn't agree more, but those pesky IOC folks seem set on it. Ironically, the 1906 Mesolympic Games are much more like the Olympic games, but they DON'T count it. So weird. I have a whole video coming on the 1906 games in a couple of weeks, it's fascinating
@@voxathleticaBut greece has 326 athletes vs the next highest country with Denmark at 58
Next video :The best Olympics
It's on the list for sure, appreciate the suggestion! Which one do you think was the best and why?
No wonder the US has won the most Olympic medals. Just host a home games and make sure almost everybody that is competing is from that country. Genius!
LOL they sure did dominate the St Louis games, no doubt about it!
And then move the games at the last minute. I could picture the athletes from other countries sitting in Chicago wondering why no one showed up.
Chicago got screwed over so badly. Chicago deserved those games.
Makes you wonder how differently these games would have gone if Chicago hosted. I'd like to think they would have gone better, because I doubt they could have gone worse
@@voxathleticawould there still be mostly american athletes since travel is still long and expensive for europeans?
Really? Worse than Munich, 1972?
In this video, I was talking about more the organization, infrastructure, operations, attendance, etc. of the Olympic games, not the outside events that occurred. As the tragedy at Munich wasn't the fault of the Olympics or the IOC, I felt it was fair to differentiate in this case
Best Olympics because corporate and tv money didn't ruin it.
Why would that make it the best? Dozens of past Olympic games would be in the same boat, no?
@@voxathleticabig money ruin sporting events. Also how can you put Olympic games in a boat that doesn't make any sense.
@@Waverley116 I'm told that the Olympics can fit on any one of the IOC yachts. You know, all that big money buys a lot of boat
@lamelists if you're saying that yahtzee should be a legitimate sport event I agree with you wholeheartedly.
5 months olympics was padded
Oh yeah, I'd say there was some fluff in there alright
All you had to say was that they were in St. Louis.
Harsh, but true
@@voxathleticaup yours
At least they didn’t have break dancing as an event.
LOL you are absolutely correct
Nah 5-6 months long Olympics is crazy. How tf you suppose to show up somewhere for half a year for a sporting event? Lol
Right!?! I mean, some would argue that cramming as much as they do into 2 weeks is not short, but if anything extend it by like a week, not 5 months lol
I'm sorry but having people killed at your olympics trumps ( pun intended ) any Anthropology Days.
Terrorism and murder is pretty bad, I'll give you that
The only thing surprising about any of this this is why this guy is so surprised by any of this! Historically, humans can be cruel, unethical and downright weird in our journey of learning. Or hadn't he noticed? And by the way, there is nothing at all weird about competitors being from the same club. That still happens today, including having the same coach. Read something, Dude, read!
1) I never said I was surprised by any of it, I said that this was the worst Olympics ever and spelled out my reasons why
2) As someone who posts videos on the internet, I am very, very, very familiar with how humans can be cruel, unethical, and downright weird
3) I did indeed read something, how do you think I managed to put together the video? First hand, eye-witness accounts from my personal time at these Olympics?
@@voxathletica Oh my. Methinks thou doth protest too much ... Listen to yourself again, drama queen - it is mostly about your shocked tone which never lets up all through the video, even at the most innocuous of things. Why not just read it straight?
@@nutmeg208 I find it hugely ironic that you quote from the greatest piece of dramatic writing of all time in a sarcastic manner and then say I should be reading this script straight.
This video is meant to be a combination of information and entertainment, part of the latter comes from the way in which the words are presented verbally. If you're looking for a straight reading of the facts, I suggest next time you note that the channel is called "Lame Lists" and not "The Washington Post" or "A&E".
@@voxathletica Never mind, hon. I can tell you don't take criticism well, so - you are perfect. Keep it up.
@@nutmeg208 That's it, don't actually address the words in the response, make it about the person responding. Again the irony: you say I don't take criticism well, but as soon as I push back on your criticism, you deflect and withdraw, saying "never mind". Mirrors are tough to look into, aren't they?
Thanks for checking out the video and engaging in the comments
7:48 Here the video talks about swimming events and where they were held, showing a picture of what is clearly women. Then, 10 or so seconds later it says women didn’t participate? Confused.
Women didn't compete indeed, was just trying to get some footage that was topical to both women and swimming for the section. Video and other relevant media from 1904 is tough to come by!
Looking at another culture is gross? SMH.
Sorry, not sure I'm following?
Sorry, but many of these photos were NOT from 1904, but from later, e.g. 1908
Yes indeed, it is extremely difficult to find enough photos (and zero videos) to fill such a long video. So while it's not 100% accurate, I was instead aiming for 100% authentic to the time period and topics being discussed
Tug o' War not tug of war.
Noted, thanks
yes this is very important 😅😅
Wait until you see 2024 olympic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It seems like it's off to a decent start so far, but there's a lot more to come for sure
The Saint Louis olympics was a great olympics.
To each their own, I suppose
Hiram College Basketball, baby!!
Gold medal winners! Such a great story
Well this isnt actual so shocking people its 1904
The early Olympics were absolutely insane, there's no doubt about it
Talk about a real "Laff-A-Lympics". And if they ever bing back Croquet, i'm sure the Chinese & Russians will find ways to cheat at it.
LOL they do seem to find a way. I'd be curious to know what PED's would benefit Croquet athletes!
The worst was 2020 😀
It sure had some issues, didn't it
I spoke with the world’s foremost Olympic historian, David Wallechibsky, he said that the Olympics would have turned out ok if they waited 2 months but NBC wouldn’t budge.
Was not their fault lets remember there was COVID 19, the japanese are way more organized and secure hosting 🎉
@@manueltapia1859 Yes and Japan seems to have bigger restrictions when it comes to epidemics like most Asian Countries do.
2024 is the worst for many reasons ranging from controversy, ceremonies, health hazards, and performances
And it's only halfway done!
Every Olympics has issues - major boycotts and making a city administration insolvent are just 2
And you seen every Olympics to be able to make such a decision?
@@annettemalaski1967 just so happens I have, Annette
@@gas481 So you are over one hundred and twenty years old?
Fun fact: Great Britain is the only country to have won a gold medal at every summer Olympics. However, their one gold at the 1904 Games was won by an Irishman called Tom Kiely, who expressly did not want to run under the British flag.
The British offered to pay his way if he competed for them but he refused, raising funds by himself in Ireland. He attempted to replace the Union Jack with the Irish flag at the medal ceremony.
For good measure, the only other medal won at the 1904 Games by the British was by another Irishman.
I recall reading about that as part of my research for this video, it is one heck of a story!
They had to start somewhere
They did, eight years earlier. I appreciate that it takes time to iron out the creases, but this Olympics was a regression from 1896 and 1900, not a step forward
I say give them a second chance
Time heals all wounds, right?
I bet they still didn’t have a satanic ritual during their opening ceremony.
You're probably right
Pierre de Coubertin
The legend himself, father of the modern Olympics