The Dark Side Of World Records
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I tested positive just watching this video.
😂
Watch closely and you`d see the "nuts"!
That is a hilarious comment!
Great comment!! Lol!!! Funny!!
My brother and I were in Germany for the summer at my grandmother’s house in Nürnberg. We went running out at the park around the corner but wanted to make it back in time for the men’s 800m. We ran back just in time to catch it. My grandmother’s TV took a long time to warm up so we could hear the crowd roaring well before the picture came in and revealed this big dude pounding down the home stretch. I cursed, thinking we had missed the men’s 800m. Then I saw the rest of the women make the turn for home. That dude was Kratochvilova and this was the race.
Remembering also this race when I was a kid, your's description is so true... 😉
I thought this was going to be a men's race before the rest of the pack was showed off too in the first clip haha.
Exactly and white people are not ready to accept this because they always refer to Caster when talking about DSD athletes but look at this man🥱🥱🥱
She’s so masculine looking
Cause of steroids use, look at her now.@@emilygooner9697
She’s built like Nick Symmonds, and I’ve seen Nick Symmonds get accused of steroids so many times throughout his career. This is the most obviously not natty world record in existence and I have no idea why we’ve let it stand. It DOES NOT COUNT in my head canon.
For realz!!
"I have no idea why we’ve let it stand"
Umm....just a wild guess: A PROFOUND LACK OF EVIDENCE!
She looks more jacked than Nick, probably stronger too. 😆
@@shreddedatsixty Yeah, I guess that's what it takes to break a world record that has stood for 40 years.
it's obviously a druggie-record, but not moreso than say, Flo-Jo's...
I watched the first 46 seconds of the video thinking this Dude must be on Juice with those muscles running the 800, then I find out its the Womens 800. Stop it, no test needed
Me too.
I had that same thought. I was surprised to see the women trailing in the background.
Thought it was footage of a decathlete
Me too.
Exactly the same!!! I thought it was a man lol
Her coach supplying her with his own special supply of supplements is one if the buggest red flags to me
Mine too and I think Meratova may not have been aware of the drugs being forced on her.
@caseysmith544 r u sure, she can honestly see difference in her own biology changing
U knw what goes in ur body or just ignorant either way she new
@@haydnlovie3855 Not sure at time She knew what was being done and her coach may have used an excuse given to him by government to explain if athletes seem suspicious of PED use for her to say for interviews to explain it all away when fans and interviewers are suspicious of PED drugs.
Sure, some other athletes did know and were given excuses for interviews where people are suspicious of PED use, using same or similar excuse every time by almost every athlete. But these were athletes who would not turn in themselves or others for PED use. She may have been one of those personalities where if they know they expose entire system banning each country forever even now after USSR/modern Russian influence is over in most areas.
@@haydnlovie3855 Ignorant literally means "lack of knowledge". You're contradicting your own argument
As someone who remembers watching Kratochvilova, Koch, etc. run at the time? The doping was so obvious you'd have had to be blind not to see they were hopped up on steroids. There were so many women from Eastern Bloc countries who looked like middle linebackers that joke was always that the sprinters and middle distance runners were beefier than the throws athletes. They would give interviews through translators and had deeper voices than most male athletes. I remember when Randy Barnes was doping people would joke that the East Germans and Czech's were bigger than Barnes. Given that the testing at the time wasn't very good - of course Kratochvilova's coach said she was taking B12. Similarly Carl Lewis took a lot of "cold medication." Snort.
But they didn't fail a drug test 😂😂😂😂
@@guitarsandcheesecake1632 yeah, that was difficult back then wasn't it.
They'd hide in training camps juicing to the gills and then stop a couple of months before a major championship, where they might get tested. Rest of the year could do what the fuck they liked....
To suggest that she was clean goes beyond delusional. It couldn't be any more fucking obvious without actually seeing her sticking the needle in.
@@guitarsandcheesecake1632 you'll only fail a test if they test for the right stuff.
@rossfripp4503 correct. But if its not on the band list, who's fault is that. Having been tested myself I'm sure they test for all band substances
@guitarsandcheesecake1632
No, she didn't, but not only was the testing nowhere as advanced as it is now, but it also has to be on the banned list to be tested for. LSD was created in 1938 but didn't get made illegal to use until 1966. So no law no fowl! She's 72 now and I bet she would still test positive if they tested her😅
I don't think it is possible to train 7 hours a day pretty much every day of the year and recover fast enough unless you are using performance enhancing drugs.
Of course. Only a fool believes that all was clean in Jarmila training. Also, with so many and intensive training sessions (e.g. weightlifting) the risk of injury should be colossal, even with PED
Damn straight-NO 800m runner could ever train like that-the model at the time was Seb Coe's and he seldom trained twice a day-usually a track session and on other days he did a moderate amount of road mileage.
including amphetamines
Even Marathon runners don't train that much everyday. There's no way any human can do intervals everyday without getting injured.
While I believe she was probably taking a shitton of PEDs, some people are just built different and there is a remote possibility that she was one of a very small number of people who CAN actually train that hard naturally and surpass normal human limits.
Fair play to her for having the balls to run so quickly 😂😂
No mention in the video that she was possibly intersex, she also had a legal 200m best time of 21.97 seconds from 1981 one of the fastest ever times back then and still world class today, no current female 800m runner is even close to being world class at 200m.
yea probably both DSD and PEDs dangerous combo 😬
Intersex, huh? Yeah well rampent steroid use DOES tend to mess with someone's sex identity
@@jasonm3121intersex is a biological thing, not a sex or gender identity thing.
I don’t think she was intersex just heavily juiced for years.
Indeed it is-sometimes obvious flippancy is not visible even with perfect vision.@@cjcurtis8944
You should mention the fact that the second fastest time ever recorded in this race was set in 1980 by Soviet athlete Olizarenko at the Olympic Games. This time is still the Olympic record and Kratochvílová only beat it by 0.15 second. Both of these times are a long way ahead of the third fastest effort.
The times from the Eastern Bloc athletes from the 70/80s from the likes of Kratochvílová, Olizarenko, Mineyeva, Kazankina, Wodars, Wachtel, Shtereva, Providokhina should all be dismissed imo!
......and Olizarenko did it without braking a sweat......so effortlessly....very similar to Marita Koch's 400m WR.....similar somatotype....they did not look "masculine" like Kratochvílová, though. These three WR are very suspicious and will always be no matter how much they say and defend themselves on TV.
I can only see Jeolousy amongst nations and from critics.. spreading propaganda..mmm to dimiss some competitors winning times..such as Joe flow women's fastest American female sprinter..
@@lexyvanderichyngmakani5754
Flo Jo didn’t look like a man !!! The eastern block women all looked like men - so full of steroids - pretty much every eastern block female athlete in the 70’s n 80’s was questionable. Jealousy 😂😂😂 what woman is jealous of a woman that looks like a man 😂😂😂. Who gets jealous of teams that cheat - it should be extreme shame to cheat.
And we should be surprised that a Soviet athlete still has the Olympic record? Who do you think taught the Csechs and the East Germans how to dope?
Drugs seem almost like a certainty. So many red flags from her physique to her times even to the Eastern European block in the 80s. All the signs are there. Reminds me of the saying "when something seems too good to be true, it usually is."
Eastern block? How about Flo Jo? Did she defect to Moscow? I did not notice. Her records are also like from a different universe.
@@filipjanku2809Don't bring Flo Jo into this conversation, you'll upset our American friends.
That dude was really crushing those girls in the race at the start of the video! Good for him that’s awesome. 😂
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All of the world records for weightlifting have been reset several times. It was due to other reasons, but it’s one of the few sports that are known to be more dirty than track and field.
I think its obvious why it hasn't been broken.... look at her ffs!!! She is more juiced than Del Monte
she looks like a dude lmao
Ah! The 1980s Communist Bloc: Back when men were men, and so were the women.
lol
Lmao
It seems that fashion hit, as so many others, have returned.
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Doing 1 push up and 2 sit-ups for every like this comment gets - gotta get big for the ladies
Don’t do it for them, do it for yourself king
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You can do push ups for the rest of your life. But You’ll still never get big enough for one “ladie”…Kratochvilova.
W
Comparing the comments on this video and the ones on Florence Griffith Joyner is certainly interesting.
Unfortunately, so many women haven't gotten the love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder cos of drug cheats from the 70/80s :( The likes of Pamela Jelimo (1.54.01) & Ana Fidelia Quirot (1.54.44) should've been celebrated more but unfortunately weren't. Hopefully the likes of Athing, Keely & Mary Moraa can stay healthy & push each other as close as possible to that WR!
hopefully athing mo actually continues to run, not sure of too many performances after last year... (not implying roids but just stating her lack of races last year sadly)
@@lol-gb5vtHolding one season against her makes no sense when she competed a lot in literally every other prior season plus the pressure of remaining unbeaten in the 800m after an unbeaten '21 & '22 was starting to get to her. With that defeat in Budapest now out of the way and with ending the season with a 1.54.97 NR, I expect her to kick on and be the first clean athlete to run sub 1.54. She's got the talent to be the only female athlete to run sub 22.5s/49s/1.54m/4m in the 200/400/800/1500m respectively!
"Unfortunately, so many women haven't gotten the love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder cos of drug cheats from the 70/80s"
That's an accusation without any evidence whatsoever. Imagine that you are in a similar situation - broke a world record, innocent of cheating but unable to prove you are innocent, but faced with public accusations that you cheated without any evidence that you did and, as a result, you missed out on the "love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder". This cuts both ways.
@@williamverhoef4349 You seriously think there were ZERO athletes that benefited from state-sponsored doping from that era?!
Oh come on, Bill-just take a look at Jarmilla for a nanosecond-this gal was bigger than the 100m lady sprinters of today who have demonstrably benefitted from the advances in sports science and modern training methodologies/philosophies etc. She's even more muscular than any of the 800m men, for crying out loud. What are the "rational" odds of all this just being purely coincidental? In Law, circumstance alone, in the absence of "hard evidence for any number of reasons is frequently sufficient to convict bad doers.@@williamverhoef4349
In 2023 Femke Bol ran a 49,26 400m indoor WR and took over Jarmila Kratochvilova's 400m indoor WR (49, 59) dating back to 1982. So there's still hope.
No theres not. 47.60 by Koch is out of this world
@@franks3904 if femke would stop the pursuit of the 400H (which she ALREADY peaked in) and her and sydney raced each week (sydney ran like 6 races all of 2023) they would surely break the outdoor 400F~ lil bro
@@sacollectiblesii if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
@@sacollectiblesii if my auntie had balls she would be my uncle
He's one hell of an athlete
If anyone thinks that's a woman, look at the picture in the thumbnail.
That's a whole ass man at this point 😭
I watched this runner in action on TV as a kid and to be fair it was incredible to watch, partly for the phenomenal running ability and partly for the thing that was poking out of the front of the runner's shorts.
🍾😂
Well, that was just easy wasn't it. A PhD? You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@williamverhoef4349it’s a joke
Probably not too far from the truth, Adam-who can ever forget Shirley Babashoft's'(U,S SWIMMER) comment after having to flee the ladies bathroom at the Munich Olympics in sheer horror-apparently emanating from adjacent cubicles from these women -only bathrooms were voices so deep that could have qualified for bassos in an opera. She initially thought she had entered the dudes bathroom by mistake.
@@adrianriverapr6288
If it was intended as a joke, it was both obscure and in bad taste.
It obvious that she is on PED'S and it equally obvious that FloJo was also on PED'S. The funny thing is that America tries to pretend she was clean. Ignoring the fact that FloJo appreance changed. Her muscle tone changed. The fact that she improved her 200m time by 7 tenths of a second.Also improved her 100m time by 5 tenths of second. All in one year. Also dying at 38 or 39 years and the optopsy show she had a enlarge heart common with Steroid use and a rare brain issue that was common with the use of HGH. Which could have been the reason she had a epileptic seizure and died
100%
Happy to remove flojos if these others go:)
That's the thing is it's not obvious.
as an American I'll say she is definitely very sus. You hear her whole story and she is very sus. I would bet she was on PEDs. She got really fast all of a sudden after not even training for very long.
She didn't suddenly get fast. She had been competing since the late 70s. Her appearance didn't change either.
Thanks for your question: I don't buy it. Her physical characteristics...right! Other male and female sprinters have focused on the 100 and 200 for years and they don't begin to approach what she's hauling.
Using lemmino music is an instant thumbs up for me, great video!
One of the reasons that the WR has stood for so long is that for so long it has been assumed to be drug fuelled, that it is just so fast it is impossible to break - so no one really tries. It is possible that the barrier is as much mental as physical.
What I believe is necessary to break any WR is to first believe that you can break it and then be able to run consistently somewhere close to WR pace for at least a season. When you look at the women's 800m the 1.55 barrier has only been broken 17 times and the 1.56 barrier a mere 79 times. To have any chance of breaking the WR someone would need to be running sub 1.56 repeatedly.
However, I do think we may be in an era where the WR might come under challenge. We have 3 athletes who broke 1.56 last year- for most of the last 40 years we have been lucky if 1 athlete broke that barrier once every couple of years. This makes a massive difference. Up til now female 800m runners knew that running 1.57 would make you a contender for a medal at worlds or Olympics, breaking 1.57 would guarantee a medal and you would be definitely contending for gold. Now there is a good chance that running slower than 1.56.00 gets you nothing, that requires athletes to push beyond what they thinks the limits should be. Then there is friendly rivalry between Athing Mu and Keely Hodkinson who are both still young and which should push them to run faster, I expect Keely to break 1.55 this coming season and Athing to break 1.54.5.
I think drugs are almost certain. It should be broken by now with all the improvements in the sport of running.
I thought that a guy had somehow entered the race on a technicality or something😭😭😭
I mean, what did we learn from Lance Armstrong? Its not just first place using PEDs, its the top half of finishers. She tested negative at the time by the governing body, like her competitors, just like Usain Bolt or Eliud.
Hope we can see someone come in strong and break this world record in my lifetime!
There are a couple athletes closing in on the 400m record, but the 800, 100, 200 records are so far off even with the insane athletes and technology of today, idk if it's possible
@@atomknight8361 maybe they will soften drug testing, I don't know what the governing body will do with the rules. If they do though then I could see athletes hit these times again
Why mention Bolt or Eluid but not FloJo!?
@@abubenadem I couldn't list all the names but yes Flojo could be added too
Athing Mu. What is she, 19 or 20 and she has already run in the 1:55’s! She’s not even close to her prime yet.
I always look forward to David's video and he never disappoints.
It's worth stating that training of that intensity is often a sign of PEDs, those not on them can't recover fast enough to benefit from them.
She's so fast she's sweating steroid 😂
She’s so fast shes a man..
@@darthsilversith667😂
She always reminds me of Roger Daltry from the Who.
Absolutely pissin myself she's a eightball wizard! 😂
This guy owned that race.
Stunning and brave
In the East European countries that had State Sponsored Doping Programs, the athletes were not aware. The athletes themselves did nothing wrong and only found out that they were likely to have been part of the program decades later. They were obviously aware that they were being given things, just not aware that they were illegal, usually under the guise of nutrient supplements, etc. Where Jarmila is concerned, it probably wasn't a case of doping or a brutal training regime, it would likely have been both, as would be the case for anyone doping. Whilst doping will have a greater impact or some individuals than others, it will only work when combined with training that takes advantage of the extra strength and/or enduarnace afforded by the drugs.
It is unfortunate that there are world records that were likely the result of PED use and the best clean times/distances can never receive the recognition they deserved and potentially the wealth that would have accompanied them, but the only real solution going forward would be to start with a clean slate and that could only be worthwhile once there is no way for the rules to be broken and that may never happen. It's like anti-virus software, whenever an exploit is found and blocked, a new exploit comes into play.
Lol you’re dreaming of you don’t think she was aware of what was going on
@@abone2pick Ok, I should have been more specific. Some athletes may have guessed that they were being given illegal substances, while others would have been more naive and accepted what they were told. What you have to bare in mind is that attitudes at the time in Communist states were very much about the people being pro state and they didn't tend to question what the state did. That has obviously changed a lot in more recent times with people having greater access to information, but if people are in a system where they put the state before themselves and have complete trust in the state, they don't tend to question what they are told.
Great comments.
If the athletes couldn’t figure it out, they have to have some of the lowest IQ’s on record. The athletes were unaware about as much as Jim Harbaugh is unaware that his own coaches were using stolen signals in games! Right, I believe that!!!!!!
I asked her for an interview and she said no, I'm busy throwing anvils through the moon.
It reminds me of motor racing like F1 where each year the cars get faster but the rules change to reduce the power and speed. Like the athletes get better training, better drugs but the testing also gets better. Only thing that stays constant is the corruption.
hell nah how are standing up after running that😅anyones who ever ran the 800 should understand
Totally, I go straight to the floor
Looking like some internally integrated Boston Dynamics SPOT Legs after the race
I hope Mu or Hodkinson will break this record. But I’m more confident on the 800m indoor record for the British
Chez republic athletes are next level in the late 80’s early 90’s. The two people I heard that are best Chez republic athletes are Jamila Kratochvilova (800 meter runner) and Jan Zelenzy (Javelin thrower) in this channel.
Navratilova too.
Later coming Roman Šebrle and Barbora Špotáková are also very notable WR holders.
who is that guy in the title picture?
2:41 I don't get it, who's the guy in picture there
I just ordered a shit ton of B12, I'll keep you posted.
First thing I thought of when watching. Dam that dude is fast
Exactly.
Also played Steven Weber in Wings! Wow!
There was a lot of doping at the time in Czechoslovakia. I do not doubt that. Very likely, most of her direct competitors doped as well - they were mostly from Eastern Germany and the state run system of doping there was certainly the most advanced. I am not even talking about Russians. But the amount of training punishment and body transformation she could withstand was really incredible - you must have a phenomenal talent and mentality to go through that. In her later years, she was a normal looking lady and regularly appered at youth competitions. She was a youth coach - there was nothing masculine about her. I, as a kid competing in 1500m, had problems recognising it is the same person.
To be honest if you can set a record that has not been broken or even close to being broken, you are either a really good runner or a really good druggy and know how to hide it. No matter if she really did cheat this is a great accomplishment that has stood the test of time.
I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural…
That is ludicrous😮
@@mikepriverguy I agree with you completely!
"No matter if she did cheat this is a great accomplishment".. .Ehh no.. If she cheat it is not an accomplishment at all. It's utterly disgraceful. Not only did she take the attention away from other clean athletes in her own races. She has prevented people from having a. real chance of achieving a world for more than 40 years. Cheating will never be an accomplishment. There's nothing impressive by taking drugs.
I do not agree. She needed to be both. It is not an "either or alternative" as people commonly imagine. Especially not in 80's and 90's. Otherwise, you would have a lot of doped 800m female runners beating her time in the last 40 years.
So what happened to such a recommendation regarding the unbreakable world records?
She is literally Ivan Drago
She would kick his ass
At the age of 17 I was running daily 3 up to 4km the first two laps in 1:50 min each lap in 55 seconds. I was a former powerlifter reducing my wight from 97kg into 86kg.
cool story, bro.
Do you recommend any video consultation coaches for sprinters?Can you link them or make a video about their effectiveness
A picture is worth a thousand words.
She is celebrated as a hero in Czech; profiles at every world champs, regular interviews. I was in Prague during this 2023 Worlds in Budapest and the TV commentators were still showing constant love for her during the 4s and 8s. For them, she's still the queen of the 400.
Not necessarily. They invite her to be a commentator during these events since she actually raced these distances herself. And that's fine. But not everyone here is stupid. I highly doubt her performances were clean. There is way more cheating/doping in pro athletics than everyone realises imo.
Not as a hero. But with great respect for the former excellent athlete
She’s a cheat and steroid junkie.
Does the average Czech citizen know about her? I'd be happy to hear your answer.
@@frodo5882 of course everybody knows her
She was a beast
Steroid beast
For some reason this reminds me of the “Strong Woman” South Park episode 🤔 4:25
After the race, she went to the Miami Dolphin's training camp for a spot at outside linebacker.
She surely was a talented young man.
Lookin' like Bruce Gender.
I think people are forgetting just how many Track and Field arhletes take steroids.
If they're going after records that's possibly tainted by PEDS, then at some point, people have to wonder about all the new shoes coming out like the Alphaflys and the records post super shoes.
Your 'list' of top times missed Olizarenkos 1.53.43 run in 1980. Kazankina, Mineyeva and Melinte don't show up on it either.
I believe that was the list of athletes SINCE the record was set in 1983. The previous WR was from 1980
@@eunicepadilla4513 good catch, rewatched and heard him say since the second time ☺
The times from the eastern bloc athletes from the 70/80s from the likes of Kratochvílová, Olizarenko, Mineyeva, Kazankina, Wodars, Wachtel, Shtereva, Providokhina should all be dismissed!
The old Cold War era women’s records across the board have been damaging to women’s athletics. It hasn’t plagued the men the same way because doping is much less effective for male athletes than female, but people are less engaged with women’s athletics directly because nobody has touched those world records. It’s very bad for the sport.
That’s a guy bro
no its a woman with a higher testosterone Level than an American man
Unless World Athletics decides to annul all of the 'tarnished' Records, we'll simply continue with present-day elite athletes never being eligible for bonuses. Consider these women's track events: 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 3000m, shot, and discus. Their Records are all suspect. Similarly, the men's discus and hammer are beyond the reach of our top performers,
How would you feel if you were Olympic or World Champion, yet never earning whatever you were entitled to?
Tony Hunt of World Junior Athletics News NZL...
I know this is a little out there. But I think with some sprint training- faith kipyegon could give WR A shot.
If Casta can't get near it, no one can
That’s a strong man
Wow her training is legendary. That made me an instant fan!
I can relate. Both ends of my feet were crushed and ulnar nerve damage in my eighth arm. I literally do rehab and training all day every day. No holidays. No family.
I want to go from cripple to Olympic Athlete jacked.
Based on my own results after 2.5 years I believe she could’ve definitely been natural. I actually believe her that’s she was natural.
That must be a hell of a training if you grow up to eight arms
@@mozzey0 hopefully they start popping up soon lol
Will Athing Mu/The Hodge break the WR?
4:23 adam's apple.
The fact that you didn’t say “I mean, look at her.” Is both egregious and impressive. Egregious because that’s all the proof you need. Impressive because…I mean look at her.
She straight up looks like a man and is built like bodybuilder but I’m sure she’s #lifetimenatty 😂
I must agree he is definitely impressive for a female athlete.😂
I think if they pass the tests they should stand. If you really want have an “all time” category and a “post 2005” category.
Plz Athing. Go get it!!! Had hoped Caster would do it but now we turn to you! Hope SML can take down Koch’s mark. Honestly if 1 of the JAM girls takes Flo off the books it is not all that bad. That 100 times looks more breezy with passage of time. -U10
Even as an American, I with ya regarding Flo-Jo's record-that's as dodgy as Koch"s(an unfortunate surname, possibly-if any one had bothered to check out what she may have been concealing in those shortest of shorts after all those years of steroid use) and Kratcha's.
Caster Semenya? 😆
Caster has UNDESCENDED TESTICLES!
@@roderickreilly9666 Exactly.
@@roderickreilly9666 Sorry that’s still seems better than cheating. She is who she is. Just that quick you forgot how this women drugged herself up (allegedly) to point she was near a d00d herself. -U10
I'm thinking you forgot to add Femke Bol as a possibility to break the 400m WR. Get both of them (BOL and SML) in a big-time 400m race, throw in a few other hot-shots from the 400m and 200m, and it'll be a classic.
She’s so obviouslt on steroids her arms alone are bigger than most male athletes
You didn't mention, she only broke Nadezhda Olizarenko's world record by .15. Olizarenko, a Soviet runner set that at the 1980 Olympics (the one USA boycotted so many don't seem to know it existed). The Soviets had as much, or more of a systematic doping program than the Russians (and Belorussians) do now. And their Eastern Bloc associates did the same thing to try to keep up. Its all based on the philosophy that "my political system is better because my athletes beat yours" which Hitler and Putin and the Communists and we Americans subscribe to. I guess that we should model ourselves after the Kenyan and Ethiopian governments then.
“however on this day, with the right performance, with the right fitness, right training, the right pacing,” and the right needle…he was able to run a world record time.
vitamin b12 wink wink
Its incredible that they didn't disqualify all the records that were set from the Eastern Block. They were all under doping and was a bigger reach than the Russian one.
Back then, did they also test for natural body testosterone or only synthetic testosterone, and their likes?
Juiced or not that is still an incredible run
It’s not an incredible run if she’s juiced… it’s just cheating
@@Nige.It’s still incredible, let’s not take that away from her
No one cares it is a cheat
The dude is fast
I saw her train at Gateshead in early 80’s. Her back & shoulders were covered in acne. Just like bodybuilders of that era I thought.
A classic side-effect of PEDs...
She was a fantastic athlete and would very likely have been a multiple champion under any conditions but I doubt there is anyone who seriously thinks that this record was not set under enhancement. I disagree with Seb that wiping the records would regain credibility for the sport though - there are several more recent athletes that I am >90% sure were also on some form of doping regime but have not been caught under the supposedly strict modern controls. And as long as out of contest controls are done by local officials who are often part of state-sponsored programs, you simply cannot trust any of the results.
It always makes me laugh when they say PEDs are what made this world record. They have way better PEDs today than in 1983. With a better understanding of the administration cycle, dosage, drug selection, and more. So why hasn't this world record been beaten? Regardless if she was or was not on the naughty sauce. This world record was amazing. I do not understand why people put this world record down.
Vitamin B-12...riiiiiggghhhtt. One of, if not the, most important reason for taking PEDs is that they allow you to train far more intensely than what any normal person could. There's also the admitted administration of PEDS to athletes behind the Iron Curtain who often weren't even aware that they were being dosed.
though she might've took some PEDs, i'm still happy to hear an athlete from Czech or Czechoslovakia
I respect the fact that you're able to consistently talk about athletes so juiced that they'd piss hot enough to melt modern testing equipment with a straight face for almost an entire video.
If training or diet could give an athlete that kind of advantage then the record would've been lowered by another second by now, just like the men's 800m.
IT WAS, ULTIMATELY, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THE DRUGS.
In fact the drug regimen enabled her to maintain that brutal training pace.
DRUGS.
Jarmila herself said that she could have run faster in this race. And if there were "conductors" at that time, he would certainly have been able to run 1:51😉It can also be seen in the time of both 400 meters, they are the same, which is not "logical", usually the second 400 meters is faster
In the famous words of Homer Simpson... "Dope!!!"
So much hate in these comments already! I believe she was 100% on steroids, but calling her a man and referring to her as "he" is just rude.
Also keep in mind that many other elite runners have been on steroids and none have beat her.
True
Well.. she might not be a 100% man.. but I wouldn’t be surprised if “she” was like that one “lady” from South Africa.. the one that had to be banned because they had a lot more going on than just female chromosomes and had an advantage over the 100% females.
"He" was 100% on steroids.
I remember watching this, at the time i thought she ran an amazing race.
Defected and changed name to Heather Swanson?
I look forward to your video on the female 100m and 200m.
Here's a big production we did on the women's 100 - th-cam.com/video/UulNZphVO3s/w-d-xo.html
Every record from the 80s should be wiped out due to steroids! That includes Flojos records.
That was a woman???!!!!!!!! 😮
It’s wrong if she was on peds but how many hundreds of runners have been on peds since then and mot gotten close to the record?
Testing today still isn’t very good and or is difficult to decern between cheating and biological variation.
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Nadezhda OLIZARENKO she runs a 1.53 800m and 400m 50.83 way slower 400m time
The IAAF needs to nullify all these doping and wind assisted records
"Very soecific dose of vitamins each day" hmmmm