Gamerade - PS2 Component/HDMI - Best Possible Video Quality - Adam Koralik
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In this video I will show you how to get the best image quality out of your Sony Playstation 2. I also talk about a device called "PS2 to HDMI."
Music provided by Epidemic Sound.
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I like how you get straight to the point. I hate when youtubers take forever to make their point. GOOD JOB
m daudi Don't even get me started on those 1 min intros!
m daudi Yowhatsupguys it's ya boy (some kind of name with gamer in it) now before we start this video make sure you SMASH that like button and be sure to SUBSCRIBE!
@@malcolmboyd3467 Those kind of TH-camrs kind of get on my nerves...that kind of intro is just cliche. I don't like the idea of having to say to "subscribe to me", like I will subscribe if you earned my interest, like Adam here. I enjoy his videos and that is why I subbed to him.
the other youtubers be like: this video is sponsored by raid shadow legends.
I'm glad to see that some people actually know the difference between Graphics, resolution, and clarity three really different things and it annoys me when people get it wrong.
Oh dude, you have no idea how often I have to reply to comments like that. I'm thinking about making a video JUST about that.
Lami Z
480p is twice the resolution of 480i actually. :P
480p in general looks better than 480i. GSM, in my opinion, makes the games look bad.
Lami Z
If you have a modded PS2, or one running Free McBoot, I suggest trying it. You may end up loving it.
What annoys me so much is when people think Graphics and textures is the resolution when they are Two very different things.
amu bebo
Wait until you deal with people who defend the bad visuals in absurd ways.
Sentences like this break my mind:
"lol u just dont get it dude the games r supposed to be played with the yellow cables cuz thats how the graphics are meant to look"
That's a paraphrase, but I've heard basically the same idea over and over so many times.
Hell, even in the comments of this video there have been several people on the side of doing it wrong. Granted, not THAT badly.
Funny how 480P in the year 2000 was gorgeous. Lol
It still can be, just not with the PS2.
720P in 2010 was the most amazing crisp ultra HD picture quality we had ever seen. And now 2020 1224P and above is the best 4K picture quality there is! So wired how times change. we are living in the future!
It still is
If you play it on a CRT it looks like it’s HD 😂
Still is
is good to mention that component is essential for reading small texts on certain games
especially with xbox 360 games since these game company's tend to cheap out with the analog connections,(composite video and s-video)
So Component is the best?
Lmao nice seeing you here too gman
@@juvenoiachild7675 Kinda late tho
I was asking the same thing
@@NFSBeast2365 It completely depends on where you're from, the games you play and the consoles you use. For example, some consoles can output 480p over component but they won't if a game doesn't support it.
If you're from the US and you wanna play a PS2, then you're probably better off using component cables over RGB scart, as they will allow for at least a 480p signal for PS2 games that support it. RGB scart won't output 480p or higher. If you're from the UK (Like me), then going with RGB scart is better, in my opinion. PAL PS2s support component output but most of our PS2 games don't output in 480p apart from like, 5 games, so it's basically pointless. The difference between RGB scart and component over here is barely noticeable.
If you're from the US, you'll benefit a lot from the component cables because you'll be able to get 480p output from a lot of PS2 games.
For ps2 i guess
Dude fucking FINALLY!! Someone who gets straight to the fucking point without the song and dance. Thank you man!!
How DARE you not like cake!
Fishkeeper63 I'm more of a pie man myself
Yeah me too actually.
Cakes pretty good.
I hate people like you and your obsession with toast.
The cake is a lie
Adam, I have to agree. I just got a component cable for my PS2 and it looks so much better than with composite.
+Bart Komedy what about ps3, ps2`? hdmi
lillskiten1337 Don't have a PS3 Fat and the PS2 classics don't work all that great
@@bartkomedy I had a fat but it wasn't compatible at all
I just connected my PS2 to my 50 inch 1080p Samsung via component cables, and yeah the image was a bit blurred out, but looked amazing compare to standard AV cables.
I then connected it to my 24 inch 720p Philips and BANG💥, the freaking picture quality improved greatly and the blurred CG images looked very crisp.
I guess the bigger the hdtv is, the more blurrier and stretched out the picture quality will get via AV/Component cable. Now the smaller screen is, and the less pixel it has (720p is perfect), the better the image quality will look.
Ps2 was designed on and for CRT TVs. New HDTVs just dont mesh well. I could get into the weeds on it.
Man, I'd love to see one of these videos based on the original Xbox.
Xbox games look good in hd. If you have an xbox 360 you can easily play your original xbox games in hd. For example dead or alive 3 looks amazing in hd.
@@williampacult9431 nice also on HD CRTs like mine it looks beautiful
not all xbox games work on the 360 and some that do run have minor to major issues (frequently with cut scenes, or audio).
Hey Adam, I like your videos on the 6th generation consoles. Do you have videos comparing the composite vs component quality on the Gamecube and the Original Xbox?
Not yet, no. They weren't requested as much. I do have one on the Dreamcast, if that interests you.
I've seen the Hanzo vids. You can definitely tell the difference.
I've always wanted to see good quality on an original Xbox or ps2. They sounds really nice when hooked up correctly to get the best picture quality.
1080i games:
Gran Turismo 4
Tourist Trophy
Jackass the Game
And
NHL 04
It's funny how NHL 04 supported 1080i but the following NHL games didn't.
“How dare you say the PS2 has bad graphics!” 😂😂
It actually had. Look at some Sonic games released for the Nintendo GameCube, Xbox, and PS2. Sonic Heroes is possibly the best example
@@hectorvargasdiaz5435 agreed, PS2 has dirty looking picture quality at times, GameCube has very clean video over S Video.
@@PaperBanjo64 There is a video output that is even better than S-Video, Component Video. These are basically similar to RCA video, but instead of being only one video connector, it's three connectors (Red, Blue and Green). You can use this in your Nintendo GameCube, Xbox, and PS2 to obtain (at least) 480p resolution with progressive scan
@@hectorvargasdiaz5435 ok watch this th-cam.com/video/Rgohhau18NM/w-d-xo.html also tekken 4, burnout revenge, Tenchu 3 look beautiful with component
@@hectorvargasdiaz5435 also watch this
Excellent video!! I'd say the first thing to do when looking to upgrade the PS2 video quality is to get a good, old flat screen HD TV or monitor. The older the model, the better, as long as it is HD or Full HD. Just got an LG monitor, 20 inches, Full HD with HDMI port. Perfect for the old PS2. Now I have to get that little cheap converter.
i used composite on my hd tv its nearly unplayable
I found that the best way to play ps2 was using a newer model dell 24 inch gaming monitor with component cables through a component to hdmi converter. Or the ps2 to hdmi converter. The smaller screen is perfect and you can set it to fast response time with full dynamic contrast. Clearest picture I've ever gotten. Even better than crts
chiefkeefsossa I am trying to use the composite cables on my HDTV but it says no signal. Am I doing something wrong?
@@gavinp5940 Have fun with your input latency!
@@christianruffin1342 did you change the video setting as he suggests?
Does the official Sony PS2/PS3 cables make any difference? Asking because I really don't want to spend more than 50 bucks on a used 6 feet cable..
Wow thanks for the component tip! I already owned the cables, I just didn't know they could improve the image clarity on the PS2. It's not drastic, but the image is noticeably a little clearer and a little sharper. Thanks again!
"HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE CAKE!?" A classic analogy I'll never forget and I keep coming back to! Lmao
I struggled for over three years with picture not working with component on my tv. i bough a new tv, still not working. and now you are saying i have to go in the ps2 and change the settings there? I hate life.....
+Filatuss Lmao is it good now?
You’re dumb lol
@@Taylor-np9ie nice name lol
Resolution is actually part of why PS2 image quality is bad. PS2 games would often use really odd resolutions that don't upscale to 480i well (512x448 was pretty common). Even GT4's '1080i' mode is just 640x540 upscaled. Dreamcast mostly wiped the floor with PS2 in this regard as most games ran in native 640x480.
I remember being really shocked with how sharp the Dreamcast's image generally was despite using the same setups.
I remember hooking up Component for the 1st time with my PS2 playing Smugglers Run back in the day. It made a huge difference. Those Colored smoke check points were so detailed and vibrant. even the PS2 Bootup sequence was nice. I think you can see a huge difference using older TVs with component inputs then you can on an HDTV with component inputs. HDTV's just make non HD content look like crap.
The Sony PS3 component cables I use on my PS2 work flawlessly. Yeah god of war 2 didn't look a hell of a lot better but still it's good. I was playing ghost recon jungle storm and it doesn't have a 480p option but it did look better. Not going back to composite
How dare you! (5 years later)
I commented and realized how late I was after 🤣
I'd use a component to HDMI converter box if you want the best image quality possible on the PS2.
is it better than the ps2-hdmi thing?
@@superkostlegend6592 of course
Is it worth using a converter box if your HD TV already has component slots on the back?
@@damirzlatkic8134 no
@@diskopumper1693 alright cheers, I've tested both component by itself and also component plugged into a hdmi converter. Surprisingly no different in quality.
Just saved me 15 bucks. Thanks man. Went component to resurrect my favorite games. You rock sir.
Happy to help!
Just bought some component cables for $5 off Amazon, quality is 100% better!
+Matthew Lim You need to enable replies bud. The answer to your question is: ES_Iris 1 - David Bjoerk
+kinsmarts Yes.
+yogibear2k10 No, we never had SCART here in the US. It would have been great to have back in the 90's. Instead, we were stuck with composite and S-video, and S-video wasn't that common.
+AdamKoralik With your PS2 to HDMI adapter Adam your best solution was to run it though an upscaler with HDMI input like the E-More Composite AV S-VIDEO to 1080P HDMI Converter I got online cheap since I'm too poor to afford a XRGB-mini FRAMEMEISTER,now the PS2 to HDMI adapter by itself never had an issue with my Insignia 2005 LCD HDTV but I wanted a crisper 1080p picture from the PS2 and an HDMI cable is better than the crummy component cables,plus the PS2 to HDMI adapter gives some scaling and better sound but not by much,thus me using the E-more upscaler aka Panlong upscaler HDMI input.
This is before I found out about RGB SCART cables for PS2,online there are SCART to HDMI adapters but you may run into the same issue especially if your HDTV is an LG which is horrible for gaming,meaning you may have to daisy chain the SCART to HDMI adapter though a HDMI upscaler with a HDMI input option.
Now I've never had the issues you had with my HDTV since it's old and PS2 SCART is available for NTSC users(well if your using the SCART to HDMI adapter it a non issue)and there is no need to mod your PS2 console unlike the SNES and that may be what's next for me to get,if you need more info look at the Playstation RGB episode"My Life in Gamming"did on their TH-cam Channel.I really wish I had a HD capture card,but I can't find one under $100USD so I can't show you any video on my Channel on the big differences on my PS2,I think my"replies"option is on if not let me know via my channel,I'll try to answer any questions you have Adam K. on this subject.
+AdamKoralik i dissagree, if you hook up the ps2 to a 1080p tv with component, you will notice that the video has a transparent filter. what i love about this filter is that it creates an optical illusion that makes jagged edges less noticeable without losing detail/pixels or color. its rather hard to explain, see for yourself. it is not acceptable to see jagged edges because it takes away the sense of depth in a game. on ps2, the jagged edges are distorted by the filter to be less noticeable, on ps3 ps2 classics look too sharp and the 100% picture clarity makes the game look really jagged and that turns me off from playing ps2 on ps3, even if i use component on ps3 and use NTSC, the game would still look like crap.
i changed my mind, your better off using composite on the ps2. component or 480p is only going to make the image have jagged edges everywhere. the ps2 has good composite output and it gets rid of the jagged edges without loosing too much detail. i strongly recommend you get a good 1080p tv and adjust color setting and tint in order to replicate crt color. ps2 games are just not designed for component, i never noticed jagged edges on ps2 games until component, you get sharper image with it but it takes away from 3d depth when you literally see every pixel.
Just realised I never came back and gave my impressions of the PS2 to HDMI device. So, first thing's first it worked like a charm. My TV had no problem displaying it and also had the option of forcing 4:3 which is the native screen size for most PS2 games. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people playing games 'fullscreen' when it's stretched to oblivion. Anyway, device worked fine but there's a bit of an issue with the set up. I use a PS2 slimline and the HDMI converter sits next to the power lead in a way that the USB wire coming out of the side wants to cut THROUGH the lead. This means that with the USB wire in, it's resting either above or below the power lead which in turn forces your converter to bend up or down in the port. I managed to reduce the pressure a lot by cutting down the hard plastic ribbing on the power lead but it's still a bit worrying as a long term thing.
Long story short, if your HDTV doesn't support component cables then I'd recommend this.
Thanks for going over the hdmi to ps2 converter. After, no success with recognizing the signal on my smart tv, i borrow a friend's little tv to change the setting in the ps2, and boom! It works. Thanks.
I was thinking about getting a PS2 to HDMI, but now I see the colors look greenish. So I switched my mind and instead will be getting component. Thanks for the video.
great video. came here for hdmi review. now im just gonna get component cables
Awesome video and great explanation. I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out why my PS2 looked so bad on my HDTV while my GameCube and Dreamcast look amazing. I’ve since moved my PS2 to a 19” Sony CRT and prefer playing it that way. It seems much brighter on the CRT and “feels” like the right way to play it.
I was wondering that too but you can't connect component cables to a CRT. Is it better with the AV cables compared to component on a HD TV?
@@chrisspearline767 some CRT TVs have component connections. My CRT doesn’t though. I just have Composite and S-Video. I play my PS2 through the S-Video connection and it looks great.
@@TheTOShow1 I have a CRT I just got for NES,SNES and Genesis but I think the PS2 looks better on a flat screen with composite cables. I haven't tried it yet on a CRT
Public Service announcement; Please everyone just find a Sony Trinitron CRT and find some PS2 component cables and enjoy the best possible PS2 picture quality.
Used to have one and sold it before I found how good they are :/
+chigimonky That is correct sir.
chigimonky lmao I got a dog Trinitron crt free. ordering some component cables to replace the composite ones tonight.
Easier said than done lol. It's damn near impossible to find a good quality crt in Ontario, Canada
Have a Panasonic 100hz CRT TV. Up there as well. Beautifully produced picture and PS1 games in component on the PS2 is arguably better than HDMI on the PS3
I wish I had friends like Adam, he is such a smart guy. No all my friends turned to dopers. I'm to old to make new ones.
I think you nailed it here. For me, and it's something that's always annoyed me about this console in particular, PS2 games have always had this characteristic fuzzy look, which I think you can attribute entirely to the poor output clarity (regardless of type of cable you use). It's a shame. If there were some sort of hard hack available to improve the output quality I'd seriously consider it.
Totally right about the PS2 image clarity on a modern TV.....horrendous! I could not believe how bad my PS2 looks on my TV. By contrast, all the other systems from that generation (DC, Cube and Xbox) all look pretty damn good. Granted, not as good as they did on my old Trinitron...but a hell of a lot sharper than the PS2. It's really frustrating because there's so many great games on PS2 that you can't get anywhere else.
Something about your hair and face makes you look like you just got out of bed. I guess it gives the video a very relaxed, chilled vibe.
I strive for homeless nerd.
my theory on why the image clarity was bad is for 2 reasons 1) Sony wanted to separate itself from the pixelized look textures had on the original Playstation, since the smooth zbuffering on the N64 was considered to look nice back then. Of course, in hindsight it actually looks like crap, Sony shouldn't have pursued this route 2) in an effort to "outdo" the Dreamcast, they focused a lot more on polygonal performance, and in order to achieve this, they have to take some shortcuts, which had thus affected clarity.
That said, some games actually look pretty nice on the ps2, but most of them were pretty basic looking games, the more technical games were crap looking. Honestly the console looks at its best with a CRT, since an LCD makes the visual flaws apparent.
if you hold cross and triangle at startup a ton of games will start in 480p instead of 480i which is nice.
Cool!
Cross? You mean X if you started yelling cross at me when I asked what button, I'd look at you like you were fried😂😭
@@Gabriel.4190 X, cross. Same shit, different pile.
This helped me so much today. Almost risked buying HDMI. thanks bro
thank you for this. the authentic personality approach with raw opinions and takes made this a lot less boring to watch through and actually somewhat entertaining.
I'm afraid that beard is now a substantial fire risk.
I will admit, it would shock me if it just erupted into flames during a shoot.
10:05 interesting to see how you can suddenly read the text on screen when it switches to S-Video. Shows you how bad Composite actually looks.
I have to say though that I'm pretty happy with how the PS2 looks through component. Sure, it's not perfect, but it looks good enough. But maybe that's because I came from Composite and everything looks good compared to that. I wasn't as impressed as I was with the Dreamcast through VGA, though. I felt like my life was a lie before I switched to VGA.
Yep. You'd be amazed how many people passionately defend composite. Blows my mind.
I'm glad I found this video, at first I thought the improvement would be like 0.000001% something not even perceptible to the human eye, but the difference in quality ended up being quite remarkable, like night and day. It gave my favorite console of all time (PS2) a new breath of life. Thank you sir.
Thank you for watching.
One thing to note about the small box PS2 converter is that it will not work for PS1 games. At least not for mine. It works really well for PS2, the picture looks great, but when I tried a PS1 game it just read "error" once it started to load up. The small resolution for PS1 is too small I'm guessing. Great video by the way, very informative!
I personally think PlayStation 2 looks amazing in RGB SCART, I have 2 SD CRTs both have RGB SCART ports, neither of them have Component ports, I never used PlayStation 2 in Component let alone RF or S-Video, only Composite until recently, I have seen a PlayStation 2 RGB vs Component video however I couldn't tell a difference between the two, there's a common misconception that you can't get 480p via RGB SCART, the PlayStation 2 is funny about that is that it uses Sync-on-Green which can be enabled via the OSSC and a PVM/BVM. Like you said, most PlayStation 2 run in 480i (or 576i for the PAL versions) for the 60Hz mode on PAL PlayStation 2 requires an NTSC display or if you're using RGB SCART, you can override that if your display supports 60Hz
You could just buy a right angle USB cable to use the ps2 to HDMI thingy
How does that prevent the cable from blocking room for the PS2 to sit on it's side?
GR1M Equixz0r it won't hang down low and won't get in the way
Its plugged into component. Not hdmi, not usb
I was gonna buy component cables only to find out my tv doesn't have those types of connections on the back so I'm gonna have to buy the HDMI converter either way. Nice to know there's not much difference between the two.
Great video Adam, but I am still unsure about something after watching. What specific brand of component cables are capable of turning pickles into cake? If you could clear that up, that would be awesome. Thanks!
If someone made something like that I be like shut up and take my money.
Secret of the ages.
***** Of?
AdamKoralik Oh nevermind, I saw the difference at the end.
i was laughing a little too hard than i should of
I was using the stock composite cable with a SCART adapter for years, I'm really looking forward to see the improvement with component, I'm gonna write here once I get it delivered and try it out! btw this is not the first video from you that helped me, you gained a sub :)
holy shit the quality is insanely better, how haven't I done this before, thank you so much!
In Europe, most games output in 576i at 50hz. If you are using composite, then 576i (50hz) is the option to go for because there is a lot less noise in the picture and higher resolution. Whereas if you select 480i (60hz), it has slightly higher frame rate, but a lot more noise in the picture and lower resolution. But as far as I know, the 576i option is only available in the PAL region.
Alot of NTSC games actually had hidden options in the games to get it to display 60hz natively. At least to my knowledge that was the case and it varied from game to game.
I found that the HDMI small convert box thing has more screen noise than my component cables.
Ps2 on a CRT while using the component cables looks really really good. Even better than on a lcd tv IMO.
Roughman123 no ps2 to hdmi looks better on lcd tv
Hey Adam,
I have a suggestion for your PS2 to HDMI problem. You use an RGB SCART to HDMI converter for your retro consoles. I bought two of those, one for my Sega Mega Drive and one for my Super Nintendo. Both work great. In addition to that, I noticed that they also had an HDMI input allowing you to switch between SCART and HDMI. Experimenting with the equipment, I discovered that if you plug your PlayStation TV into the HDMI input it not only upscales the PSTV from 720p to 1080p it also bypasses the HDCP.
Why not try plugging your PS2 into the HDMI input on your SCART to HDMI adapter so it will upscale from 480i to 1080p? No reason your TV should not recognize it then.
Wait, how? And (but) that looks interesting, so
+Jarrah White I was wondering if that was possible and hope he tries that.
Chuyi Vue I tried it myself. For PS2 games, plugging the PS2 to HDMI into the SCART/HDMI to HDMI adapter certainly works. It upscales the picture to 1080p without issue. But for PS1 games played on the PS2, there is a problem.
Most PS1 games have resolutions of 240p in NTSC regions and 288p in PAL regions. Other games use standard definition resolutions; 480i for NTSC and 576i for PAL. So long as the PS1 game stays at a fixed resolution, the SCART/HDMI to HDMI adapter can seamlessly handle the upscaling. But then you have video games such as Driver that uses the low resolutions for the actual gameplay and standard definition resolutions for the menus, cutscenes and load screens. If I try to play, for example, Driver in this configuration, the screen constantly blacks out as the game switches from 288p to 576i and vice versa. And when the picture does come back, there is the little blue info box in the bottom left corner of the screen telling you the input, output and source information. It happens way too frequency and makes recordings of the game virtually unusable.
And speaking of recordings, I use an Elgato Game Capture HD for recording from my PS3 and HDMI consoles. While the picture looks great on the TV, the colours in the capturing come out rather fogged. In fact, the S-video to DVD recordings look better. My Elgato Card comes with a special component cable that plugs directly into the PS3 and Elgato card itself. This cable is interchangeable with the PS2 and the recordings look vastly better than captured in with the HDMI adapter, but unfortunately the Elgato card does not accept any resolutions lower than 480i through its component or HDMI input.
A component to HDMI upscaler might be able to solve the problem, but I'm yet to find such a device that can seamlessly switch between 240/288p to 480/576i and back again.
The PS3 can handle the changes without issue, but it does not support the memory cards without an adapter and because it uses emulation software to play the PS1 games I have noticed a glitch or two in some games.
So if you only want to play PS2 games in their best quality, the component cables or HDMI adapter will do the trick and any upscaler will boost it to 1080p without interruption. But if you want to play PS1 games, you'll need to either play them on the PS3 or just settle for S-video on the PS2.
The PS1's optimum quality is RGB SCART, but the switching resolutions can also be a problem in RGB to HDMI upscalers too. Personally, I have my PS2 plugged into a Panasonic EX79 DVD/HDD recorder via S-video, and the recorder outputs to the TV in HDMI. I think it looks great and there is no dropouts between 288p and 576i.
Jarrah White damn that was a long response LOL I read the whole thing tho, thx for info. I don't really plan on playing ps1 games, mostly ps2
Chuyi Vue Well, then the component cables or HDMI should do fine. Hopefully you found my suggestions helpful should you decide to go back to PS1 games.
Adam, did you know? When booting a game on the PS2 or a bc PS3, if you hold down the X and Triangle buttons whilst the PS2 logo is on screen, the console will force the game into progressive scan and/or widescreen mode.
A lot of games are capable of 480p but can't be set on their menus, only by this method.
Thank you for actually answering the question. People keep focusing on upscaling. You're the only one to answer what resolution the machine is.
Adam, have you tried using official PS3 component cables? I've been using a set of official Sony gold plated PS3 component cables on my PS2 and the quality on it is astounding. The cables you showed in your video look like some third party set.
sleepybird09 did you bother to read his question? He asked if he’s tried OFFICIAL Sony cables because the ones in the video are not made by Sony. He knows they are PS3 cables.
RS1 the quality of a cable when using analogue video (like in component) is incredibly important. the original question was if he's using OFFICIAL cables. the cheaper component cables often have quite thin wiring which can mean interference. official sony cables are pretty well made.
But arent those expensive? I looked on Amazon and the cheapest that seems to be a PS3 Component is like 70 bucks
BlackSwordChronicles
$70 and up is high end. try for less than 20. they're usually perfectly fine unless you're really anal about picture quality. a quick amazon search for me shows plenty in the $10 range, mine cost me about $15 (well, i'm in the euro area) and picture quality is excellent to my eye and i'm playing on a 55" TV.
the ones to watch out for are the ones that are like $5, often the shielding in the wiring is insufficient and can lead to noise getting into the picture which is a pain in the ass.
going official isn't compulsory with the PS2, what matters is that you get good quality cables, if you do that you'll get a night and day difference in some cases. Generally in my experience you see a substantial increase in colour saturation and a virtual elimination of that vaseline smear look the regular composite cables give you. though that does mean you see a lot more jaggies and dithering. games like GTA san andreas show that particularly well.
if you do go with component cables though, make sure your console is set to output in component, that's Y, Cb/Pb Cr/Pr. you can change it in the system settings menu. if you don't you won't get a picture or it'll be messed up.
I am not clue up with this and going back to retro gaming what will i need to upgrade image quality my TV has
Back AV, 3 HDMI, YPbPr, and VGA/PC
I gotta say your channel has probably been my favorite TH-cam discovery since......well...TH-cam! I've seen all your informative gaming videos starting in Febuarary this year. In between releases im working my way back. Absolutely loved the Generation videos....fucking unbelievably awesome job!! Our prefrences and opinions are EXACTLY the same, even our nitpicks...so much so its kinda scary. Anyways...regarding this one...I've incorporated a line into my "vocab" so much its now second nature. When ANYBODY has a remark about disliking ANYTHING, out comes "How DARE YOU not like cake!" complete with that crazed, horrified "Did I just say that" look! You can only imagine the responses/reactions I get. Hilarity! I know your a busy man, so heres the time ...4:20 to 4:40
Ha, I'm honored.
I was born in 80, and my first system was the SEGA Master System. We were by no means "rolling in the dough". It was usually one game at my birthday, maaaybe three at Christmas. Unless a system had been released, then it was the system. With SEGA being my first, I've always kinda went with the underdog of the generation. That is until the shitbrick Nintendo decided to call the Wii came out....I was sooo close to getting it, but the gaming gods were with me! I helped a guy move a couple weeks before THE DAY. He was one of those "I only play sports games, I'm not into that other stuff." guys. His girlfriend was more gamer than him and had Twilight Princess, and Raving Rabbids. Within an hour I had played as much as I could handle of FOUR games! Her two, Wii Sports, andsome golf game he had...I didnt even fuck with Madden. But the frustration that I had reached before even starting a game had me kinda shocked honestly. I was pretty fucking sure that one of us had made a mistake while setting it up, or that it might have gotten fucked up during the move somehow. He assured me that thats how it played and that I was just not using the controller right. That one hour, and having Mr. "I only play with balls." tell me that I didnt know how to use a controller was more than enough for me.
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Hey Adam, I just had an idea. You use the mClassic for everything and you have Free McBoot? Does your copy of free McBoot have GSM on it? GSM is a program that let's you force game resolutions to 480p, 576p or even 1080p. The 1080p upscale doesn't look very good IMO, but what if you set the GSM to output 480p, plug in the PS2 HDMI adapter, and then plug the mClassic into the PS2 to HDMI?
Yes, I've used it. Long story short, I'm not a fan.
I was going to buy the HDMI one but I don’t want to risk it not working on my TV so I’m going to buy the component cables now, it’s also cheaper. Thanks for the info!
I was using video for the longest time and just tried out component and immediately i could tell a MAJOR difference even for an old rust bucket like the ps2. Thanks a lot for this video and not stealing watch time from me just to explain a cable.
Soon tvs are not going to come out with component and we are going to need ps2 to hdmi to play retro consoles.
I love the PS2, along with GameCube and Xbox, and I really like yours videos about it. My favorite generation of all, specially because I am a Star Wars fan and that generation received tons of great Star Wars games. And yes, unfortunately the PS2 has really bad image quality. I have all 3 consoles connected to a 480i Sony CRT via their official component cables (I $ee you NGC) and even if the PS2 looks good the way it was intended to be played, the image still looks inferior to GC and Xbox. It has noise, dithering, it’s bad. IMO some multiplatform games have better overall art implementation on the PS2, maybe because many games were developed for the PS2 hardware and then ported to CG and Xbox, but even if the game looks amazing or better on PS2, the image quality brings everything down, which is really unfortunate. To this day I don’t see a reason for the PS2 to have such a bad image.
same, its strange as the PsOne and N64 can upscale well. Even with emulation it is very difficult to make the PS2 look meaningfully better. , Some games have such give and take; like shadow of the colossus I leave at 480p or lower on pcsx2 as at higher resolutions those polys are nasty, making the game look like a psOne game on steroids. The one big Achilles heel the ps2 had over its rivals, including the dreamcast; was a lack of vram so most games with fancy effects needed to run at that postage stamp of a resolution 480i/240p.
Came here hoping to find a solution for the component because I’m getting ready to upgrade my TV and can’t find component inputs on any of them but you more or less confirmed what I already figured. I’m just skeptical of the build quality of all those HDMI converters which is why I’ve avoided buying them. Awesome video btw, got straight to the point and taught me a few things too like the difference in clarity and graphics lol
Yo, if you have 20 minutes, this video I did recently should be informative: th-cam.com/video/VLS2Ds78KR0/w-d-xo.html
This video really helped me since I got the HDMI dongle thing, and nothing was showing on any TV, so changing the video setting from RGB to YPrBr worked just fine. I had setup the thing before, but in the meantime the battery have depleted and all the settings reverted to factory. Now it's up and good.
7:06 there are micro usb cables that have a 90° angle ;)
Am I the only one who comes back here to hear Adam say, "HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE CAKE?!"
I must put it out there that the PS2 looks ten times better through component on a CRT TV. It looks terrible on an HDTV even with component cables. I played Soul Calibur 3 on the PS2 with a CRT TV through component cables and it loos amazing. Its a shame that it doesn't look as good as the Gamecube, Dreamcast, Original Xbox, or Wii on an HDTV
You good sir are a hero. I was stressing so much over this not understanding what to do almost ready to give up. It turns out all I had to do with that PS2 to HDMI adapter was.....wait for it......PLUG IT IN!!! can you believe this? Never would have thought I feel so dumb...thank you so much!!!👍👍👍
From what I've learned about Component Digital, they were mainly used for computers as well as other home-theater applications. But Component Analog was originally intended for progressive scan-compatible televisions in that they only have three RCA video cables, so they're not considered digital. Even VGA isn't considered digital either. But personally, they're the best kind of analog than Component. And it was only because VGA is capable of outputting RGB signals than Component, since they're only capable of luminosity signals instead. So even if Component outputs both 720p and 1080i, they will still remain analog unless it's from the use of HDMI or other digital-only formats.
First minute: Component cable that was fast
omg who els still LOVES the pc2
Me
very thorough explanation, thank you for this
Travis Black Thank you for watching.
Thankyou for using Ratchet and Clank, it is the No. Game franchise that has been played on our PS2
This may have been touched on but the games can look much better not just through component, but also setting the ps2 up for progressive scan. There's a good amount of games that support progressive scan mode and can look much more clean & sharp in full 480p. just look up which games on line and you can access it through the in game menu and also a quick button combination during start up.
I'm trying to play tomb raider 2 on a 50 inch panny atm, using the stock cables you get with a ps2 and it looks like a fried cat shit. I had the component cables but they broke and they only work on ps2 games anyway. *laments life decisions.
GamingByteTv ps one games look ok on ps3 upscaled
I really like the PS2. The picture quality/clarity does suck.
I've noticed but I'll play with the components over composites after seeing my girlfriend play on her hd tv with composites...
Does anyone know if this will work when playing PS1 games on a PS2 using the PS2 to HDMI adapter?
Super_Buza It does not.
AdamKoralik That's too bad. Do you happen to know if their is any way to play my PS1 games without downgrading cables?
Super_Buza Definitely, use a PS3.
AdamKoralik I was expecting that answer haha. I have a PS3 but I kind of like using memory cards and wired controllers, I don't know how to explain it, it just does something for me. Are there ANY other possible ways?
Super_Buza Use a PC? Nothing I'd normally recommend, but I know it's a popular choice.
The PS2 games with 1080i support are Jackass The Game, Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria, Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy. In the case of the last two games, you need to set the video to 480p or 1080i every single time you start the games, since the video output option never gets saved on the save file.
Official Sony Component D terminal cable and Framemeister is the winning combo for me. I do realize this is hard to get and expensive, but it's a nice upgrade. Also got a D cable for the GameCube, works awesome, no adapters needed. Now if only a D switch existed...
Actually, there are a lot of games on PS2 which support 480p. 99.99% in 480i is not accurate. There is a website which lists all the 480p games on the PS2. All of the Rachet and Clank games except the first one have 480p available. The problem is that Adam doesn't really like the PS2 that much. He is a Dreamcast guy.
Roughly 200 out of nearly 3000 individual PS2 games is not "a lot" no matter what way you slice it. And even then, a good chunk of that circa-200 have a better version of the game elsewhere by now.
I don't recall where in the video Adam said "99.99%" either. Regardless of his personal tastes, I don't see why he wouldn't want more PS2 games to support progressive scan, nor anyone else. However I will say he probably should have used God of War 1 or 2 for comparison's sake since it does support it on PS2.
Those PS2 to HDMI adapters are just taking component from the console and converting it to HDMI.
Better off spending $40 on a component to HDMI upscaler
+Slot1Gamer or framemeister / xrgb mini
+Slot1Gamer Does this improve over the component cables?
Cristian Olvera the one in the video does basic conversion (you won't see a difference) and some newer TV's don't support these resolutions over HDMI. With Scalers it depends on what methods they use to achieve the desired resolution, cheap ones just stretch the image
Slot1Gamer By "this" I mean the upscaler.
Rgb is actually looks best.
Exactly the reply I'd expect from a European. :P
AdamKoralik
Is it true though?
*****
In my opinion, hell no.
But that's why I recorded it for everyone. So they could make their own call.
AdamKoralik
Well could it be that some tv's do rgb better and make rgb better looking on it then component? could it?
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Wouldn't explain why captured footage looks different.
Today, here in Brazil is cheaper to buy the Bitfunx PS2 to HDMI because the PS3 component cable is rare and expensive : /
Bitfunx PS2 to HDMI seems better than all the generics PS2 to HDMI.
Thanks for make this video, explains a lot!
I have 3 HDMI ports on my TV and have 6 things that need it with the exception of the PS2. Got the converter you show here and could not get it to work on my HDMI switcher. Since seeing the settings needed to be changed got it changes and now it works. Thanks for the tip, image was a bit blurred on the component and on HDMI is little better. But we are looking at old tech. Thanks for posting this video!!! :)
Composite looks blurry af on my hd tv 😂
You look like that guy from insidious
how dar you hat cak
cool
as someone who hangs onto their old consoles rather than trading them in, I found this very informative
Adam,
I have an update for you regarding your PS2 to HDMI problem. As you know, the RGB SCART to HDMI adapter has a HDMI input. I have used it previously to bypass the HDCP on my PlayStation TV.
I received a PS2 to HDMI adapter today and did some experimenting. If you plug in the PS2 to HDMI adapter into your console and then connect the PS2 to your SCART/HDMI upscaler via HDMI, it will automatically upscale your PS2 games from 480i/576i to 1080p or 720p. You should have no problem capturing or playing PS2 games with the adapter.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about PS1 games. Certain PS1 games such as "Driver" have their loading screens in 576i and their actual gameplay and cutscenes in 288i. The scaler that you just can't adjust to the changing resolutions fast enough. The screen keeps blacking out and then coming back again as the resolution changes and whenever you get the picture back you get that purple info box on the screen for awhile. If you're trying to record footage, it makes the recording near unusable. Previously I have been using official PlayStation gold-plated S-video cables and a Panasonic DVD recorder with HDMI out to record from my PS2, and I've never had these blackouts when playing PS1 games.
You mentioned that your TV won't accept 480i through the HDMI inputs. I got a similar problem with my Elgato Game Capture HD - it won't accept anything LOWER than 480i through its HDMI or component input. So if I don't use the scaler, I get an unsupported format message.
In summary, in combination with that SCART/HDMI to HDMI upscaler, the PS2 to HDMI adapter works fine for PS2 games and should be a solution for anybody with the problem your TV has. But if you are trying to play PS1 games through it, this is not the answer.
How dare you talk shit about ps2 GRAPHICS
you took 12:00 talking and 1 minute showing some action. '-'
+Squall Leonhart That is why in the beginning he said the comparison part is at the end
lillskiten1337 Yes, but 12 minutes talking and 1 minute showing.
just skip to the end then xD
lillskiten1337 That's the first thing I did. I got disappointed because it was only 1 minute. xD
hehe ;) make your own video then, and i shall dance in the background
scart is objectively better than component.
Agree
Agreed I have tested rgb scart with the best quality cable money can buy against several component cables and the difference was immediate and obvious. Ps2 component output suffers from banding in large blocks of uniform colors like red green blue. Rgb scart has solid colors that pop once you dial in the TV settings.
It also depends on what TV you use. Of course RGB Scart looks best on a SDTV and worse on a HDTV while Component is the best it gets on an HDTV and SDTVs with Component inputs are a bit rarer to find. I've been digging the web since weeks to find the best solution for the best quality on the PS2 and maaan its a pain in the ass ^^
Pokemohn thanks. I'll run with both since I already have some component cables. I just need some RBG Scart Cables and a nice 500 pound Tube Tv with 480p/480i at best.
+Honeyball Lecter I recently tried pcsx2 with my ripped ps2 collection and oh my God I've been missing out. Trying burnout 3 or gt 4 at x6 or x8 resolution legit makes them look like late gen ps3 games with very sharp graphics. Ps2 was so underpowered for what people were expecting from the platform and the games. In burnout 3 there are details in the backgrounds and the cars and maps that you physically cannot see on the ps2. I actually feel bad for the developers because it's so obvious that they were super constrained by the hardware and yet for reasons that I don't understand they put all these little details in anyway!
Imagine an apple fruit, a lens and your eyes. So the apple fruit is the graphics no matter what happens what is in front of you is permanent the way it is made. Now comes the lens that represents the cables used to help you see graphics which will vary how the lens\cables are made. Thank you for this video as I was planning to hook up this Playstation 2 and Palystation One on my Asus monitor for game-play.
Thanks for the video. Just got a PS2 for my daughter for Christmas. Your video is the only one that explains what you need.
I heart that that "Plug and Play devices" RCA to hdmi don't work in all cases. The composite I think it is just better
Avoid composite at all costs man.
@@AdamKoralik I think that the Component cable is my Way to Go, it's also Cheap enough
Some of you might have noticed that panels are using 3.5mm jacks for YUV now.
In 2022, I find this video to be helpful, thank you Adam. :-)
On pc with pcsx2 emulator you can play every ps2 game in full hd with original ps2 controller via adapter.And graphich,sound and everything else is amazing if you know how to configure.For me this is the best options if you want to play old good ps2 games in good quality :)
Thank you for 7:38! Couldn't get my component cables to work and this is why.