Lots of corrections. 1.The Indo-Greek invasion of North India happens only after the Mauryans have already collapsed the person who beat them back was a Brahman King and the founder of Shunga Dynasty. 2. Mauryans were not Buddhists. They started out as a Hindu Kingdom under Chandragupta and and converted to Buddhism under Ashoka. 3.The practice of Sati and widow burning has been exaggerated and this has been stated previously by the governor general of British India himself who said it was a niche practice among warrior class woman in Bengal and Rajputana. 4. Several lower castes Like Jats and Marathas were able to form their kingdom during the collapse of the mughal empire. 5. Genetic evidence shows that the caste system was probably fully crystallized by 500 bce since to maintain the level of steppe ancestry a Brahmin and Dalit has (North Indian brahmins have around 28% steppe ancestry compared to 8% for dalits) there needed to have 99% in-group marriages. 6. The Gupta empire is when most of modern hinduism was codified as mahabharatas Ramayana and upanishas were written down. To understand the downfall of buddhism in India watch this video, It summarizes the entire situation much better than me. The downfall of Buddhism was mostly a result of Buddhist monks being happy with being treated as Upper castes by Hindu Nobility and losing philosiphical battles. th-cam.com/video/y8GNgWatUwE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZroV3q-p5ofo-1ds
Ruydard: they were conquered by the arians The voice in my head: “Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And onto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!”
Indian here, the important figure you missed is adi shankacharya who basically reformed Hinduism by incorporating the Buddhist principles. Another cool fact is that Buddha himself took a lot of things from the Upanishads to create his creed so Hindus are not entirely wrong when they say Buddhism is a sub sect of Hinduism. I would have liked shedding more light on the Upanishads and Vedanta since they are really the highest peak of Indian culture and philosophy.
Ya he also can be credited for a lot of things that Sanatani are doing today like in philosophy, temples and more as well. Kind of weird that he talks about Buddhism history in the Indian Subcontinent but don't know about him.
You are showing you don't understand who they were+ Yamnaya autosomal characteristics are very close to the Corded Ware culture people, with up to 75% Yamnaya-like ancestry in the DNA of Corded Ware skeletons from Central and Eastern Europe. They were the same people or very close cousins.
@@danmoritz3319 Corded ware and Sinthastha are merely cousins, not descendants of one another. And they all originate in Armenia anyway, don't know why that piece of modern evidence gets thrown out of the window when talking about the Indo-Europeans
@@snehasishpandathreesixzero121 - No, it's not wrong, not a hypothesis. There are historical records from contemporary ancient Egypt. An Egyptian and a Scythian were having an argument about which ethnicity was actually older. The Egyptian, finally conceded that the Scythian culture really was more ancient. True story. It's in an ancient Egyptian text of several millennia ago. It's not a jab, it's a sad statement of the faulty, maybe intentionally faulty, education system. Most don't know the true, primary veins, of real history, especially pre-Greco Roman history.
The castes being different ethnic groups is an understatement, people of different caste from the same village are futher genetically then Italians and Norwegians.
He is trying to create conclusive narrative out of limited knowledge he have of india. His knowledge about india is not all wrong but very limited so narrative is also very vague and highly misleading.
i actually enjoyed this take and am not a hindu-nationalist ( inspite of being a Hindu ) ..its a good perspective on how India keeps losing track of the real deal and then reverts to the mean .. one important historical figure u missed is Ashoka ( Chandragupta's grandson ) who single handedly started indian recordings via stone edicts .. no written records older than that for such an ancient civilization ( with the exception of the indus valley "script", if u can call it that )
Will you ever learn about and make a video about Sikh History, it’s extremely interesting and new Guru Nanak was born almost 555 years ago and the Khalsa was established only 325 years ago They were very different from the Hindus, no polytheism invaded their neighbors got annexed by Britain 100 years after India after their civil war between gov and military etc
I'd encourage people to read the "Kama Sutra". Contrary to the popular belief, it's actually a book about wordly pleasures and the material world in general, sex only being a small part. The book is all about how to indulge in pleasurable activities, how to decorate your house, how to dress in a dignified manner etc. It's even got a long list of skills that women should learn in case they get separated from their husband for any reason.
37:54 i believe this part, apparently Buddhist statues in China had a change in its decorations/the way it's made and apparently this was from Bactria?
I am a Gen Z Indian, and I will thank you for your attempt at an unbiased and honest explanation of this part of the world. I totally agree with the fact that the British were a necessary net positive, to the country. For example, in my great grandparents time, there was no norm of counting age of people, neither was there any literacy. India, certainly wasn't the half barbarous shithole, colonial histories somewhat make it up to be, but it was also not a society ready for the modernity. British rule was necessary to open it up.
I disagree the only net positive I think the British did was unifying indians under a common identity which was a result of common struggle against British Empire other than that we were very much capable of figuring out pretty much everything else for sure
SOME INSIGHTFUL ADDITIONS -> The cast system was very much responsible for weaker Indian militaries during the Islamic invasion as Casts were ridges and if a kingdom lost most of it's army men in a battle, it took some time to fill that human resource as recruiting people from the different cast was not an options, and farmers and traders world often not participate in battles and would rather pay taxes to the new king. -> The lack of supply of men to the Indian ruling cast in the north-west(where most of the initial battles happened) was resolved by the priests(Brhamans) as the Brahamans lost most of the benefits under the Islamic kings so the Brahamans encouraged people of other casts to transition to warriors casts(adopting new customs and non-vig diet). One such event was called the "AgniKula" where a lot of people belonging to the farming cast became Kshatriyas(warriors casts) my ancestors being one of them but they switched back to farming later on. -> Untouchables were not always poor as depicted by (Christian Western historians), people from Lowe casts had monopolies just like small businesses because no one else in the village was allowed to do their work, so they were not poor but they were discriminated against. especially in the Ancient Indian context. This is even true today where a person from lower cast eg. a barber makes the same money as a farmer in some villages because the guy has complete monopoly over the business and it's protected by the system. -> Joining the Ruling cast became undesirable especially as the number of battles increased and more and more people from those casts started losing their lives, people from other merchant cast would rather opt to pay higher Islamic tax(jizyah) rather than lose their lives. To counter this the Brahmans started to promote things like Honour, sex and materialistic benefits that came with the power of rule and temples and texts promoting these things became popular. ->Cow dung is not holy in India it's used as fuel for burning instead of wood in the regions that don't have dense forests predominantly the north-west(i am from there). Also, nobody eats cow dung it was THE most ignorant comment by you, like literally wtf! -> Cow urine was used as a medical ingredient in Old Ayurveda just like how the Chinese used all sorts of weird things, how the Arabs used camel urine(sahih al-bukhari 5686) and how the Christians had some ridiculous treatments for diseases, eg dust water abortion( Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 5:11-31 - New International Version ).
I think the island today we call Sri Lanka has played a important part in Indian politics throughout the history, as it is today. Sri Lankan Buddhist believe that Mayuryan Empire Ashoka sent his own son and daughter (both Buddhist monks) to bring Buddhism to Sri Lanka. That claim seems to have played significant role in deciding the politics of Sri Lanka throughout the history, as it is today. The Buddhist kingdom of Anuradhapura has controlled the important navel ports in this Island which is located in a strategically important location for Arabian and Chinese sailors.
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word." - Operation: Knightfall "Knightfall" - Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)
That's a pretty good overview of the origins of the main influences of Indian civilization,, acknowledging the importance of British influences in recent times, Rudyard.
Do the Scythians. I work with nothing but Punjabis. Many are arrogant and deluded but I like them. I've also heard claims that all Caucasian people are just Albino Indians...many have a inferiority/superiority complex due to British rule among other things. Much of the accomplishments of Islams must be veiwed through Islam being a blanket over an earlier great civilization, the Persians and to some degree the others in the region that preceeded Islam, in the same way the accomplishments of Europe are not mainly due to Christianity but in spite of it. Aristotle was not a Christian and he had already set most Western accomplishments into motion. Similarly there were already great civilizations all across Europe, with great cultures, similar to the Hindus, long before Jesus was turning water to wine, etc. Christianity just became a big corporation that claimed credit for what was already there, same with Islam.
Punjabis and claiming to be white for whatever reason, tale as old as time. It's weird because I'm a pale skinned Bengali who grew up amongst a lot of Punjabis, they thought I wasn't Bengali because of my skin colour. The hysteria with skin in this country is pretty hilarious when you realise how mixed everyone is, especially considering I have extended family who are blacker than coal and also plenty of people who are different shades of brown.
Didn’t mention the Scythians, I’m curious were they just aryans that mass immigrated around the time of Jesus that eventually became the Jatts, since Jatts have more steppe ancestory percentage than bramins
Scythians were Aryans who remained in Central Asia and migrated later to different parts of Eurasia like the Alans who conquered Spain were Scythians(Alan is a corruption of Aryan )
Great discussion, full of interesting interpretations on Indian and world history. As a young person I was very interested in Buddhism, it made sense to me, Hinduism on the other hand is a bizarre incomprehensible mess.
The way I approach Hinduism is seeing it as multiple sets of philosophies. I'm personally very partial to the Advaita Vedanta sect which is quite similar to Buddhism. In fact there was a confluence of ideas between Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta :)
@@atheistbushman Definitely recommend it! In a nutshell, the main difference between the two from my understanding is Buddhism says the essence of everything is nothing, whilst in Advaita Vedanta, the essence of everything is pure consciousness. But apart from that main difference, a lot of the concepts are quite similar.
Hello Rudyard, Been looking for histories on Ancient India, I saw your twitter post on your recommendations. Please tell me about the books which you read that were disingenuous, which you described as Hindu Propaganda. Thank You and Have a nice day
He once called one of Shashi Tharoor's work as nationalist. I know there are people who are pushing their agenda by claiming false things but I still won't believe this guy all the time.
Also it’s not because they didn’t feel like recording history it’s because the priests and learned people focused on oral knowledge. Literally inscription evidence goes way past 1000 AD.
A lot of things have been said here some are true while others are plane untrue/ non factual. I don't have the time to go over all the points but here are few of them. 1. About writing things down - They did even though majority of it was destroyed in the destruction of the Universities. The ones that survived were passed on in the forms of Puranas or other religious text which talks about lineages of Kings and surprise surprise they talk about Chandragupta Maurya and his decedents. Historians when they first learned about this empire they didn't know about his and Ashok's relationship but these text helped them not only Ashok but even his line till the Empire came to an end. Also about them about not mentioning alexander yes they don't mention him but they talk a lot about his general Seleucus and how he was defeated and gave his Eastern part of this Empire to Chandragupta Maurya. Maurya's wrote in pillars and spread them throughout their Empire and in many of these pillars were laws that would be written for people to read which even exists today, imagine metal pillars lasting 2000+ years. 2. British - There are a lot of this that can be said about them but here are some first you're write they didn't provide any food which resulted in millions of deaths and many got saved since they left direct British controlled areas to that of Princely states where the local Kings gave them food and shelters. The British also deliberately didn't allow the world to know about how big the famines actually were since the PRESS were not allowed to even do their job. Also like what you had said that Indians did have Universities a lot of which allowed for native educations but many of the Universities were destroyed by Turks but the native educations still went on which was seen as a threat and destroyed by the British, read about what Macaulay learned while his research on Indian native education system and what lengths he went to replace it with English. 3. Cast System - I'll give you the example of the person you brought up in the video to disprove it, Chandragupta Maurya, was an Shudra and he was helped by Chanakya a Brahmin to become the Emperor not only that but the previous King of Eastern India was also a low cast which some Modern historians credit his kingdom of adding fear to alexander's army to return. Also with this and the Britsh, Dr. Ambedkar, a low cast person who when on to get education and fought against cast system in British India gives credit to cast system not being with Vedas or Hinduism but of British. Also if you look at the census of the Princes/Kings of India under the British they you would see like more then 70% of them belonging to the "Low Cast". 4. Women - atleast the second half of the video is completely wrong like Women can Remarry like it's even in the Rigveda 10.18.8, which is opposite of sati which is also the reason why there were only handful of cases and in those cases the family member like her son would stop them from doing it. About them not owning properties is also false since both sons and daughters were given those properties good examples is when british were on the conquest of India their allies when the king didn't have any sons and the daughters were brought to inherit the kingdoms the British would deny it saying it they don't allow women to inherit anything from her father thus forcefully turning it into their colonies Example like Rani Lakshmi Bai. 5. Greeks - the reason they wouldn't have written anything about Alexander might be that in Indian context he really didn't do much since he just came to western parts, fought some weak chieftains and left. Porus and his kingdom isn't even considered that much strong compare to the 16 Great Republics. And Alexander had one of his most difficult battle against one of the weakest Indian Kings so it doesn't say much about him. But his general Seleucus is mention since he actually fought Chandragupta Maurya who was much stronger then Porus and he defeated the Nandas who are believed to have scared Alexander's army. About Gecro-Indians, they did came by defeting a lot of Indians kings but they were stopped by a Brahmin King Pushyamitra Sunga and by the time of the Kushan Empire all the Greeks and their traces would be destroyed and be left with Hindu/Buddhist. These are just few things that I caught but there are more like about the discoveries that they made on medicine, science, math, and more before 0AD as well as in trade but that's for more medieval time but I only had time for just these.
One ancient case of higher caste turning lower to royalty doesn't disprove the entire system for the entirety of time, and even if today thanks to westernization caste system is abolished people, especially in rural areas and the south, still live by it. And yes, it does say a lot about Alexander because his army came from curbstomping Persia and through Afghanistan AND they were already tired and rebelling against him, so it doesn't "not say much about him" but he was already at the tail end of his forces anyway.
Sati emerged after 400 CE with the arrival of certain groups. They never mention the witch hunts in Europe, which were even more severe than those in India. Indian dramas began around the same time as ancient Greek ones, but unlike the ancient Greeks who had men playing women's roles, we allowed women to act in dramas. Some of the Upanishads were written by women such as Maitreyi and Gargi. Women participated in public debates just like men in ancient India. If you look at the carvings in our ancient temples, women are depicted more freely and vibrantly compared to their counterparts in Abrahamic religions. Additionally, we had some of the earliest democratic city-states, similar to the Greeks. We also had one of the earliest universities in the world. Indians invented -Meditation: 5000 BCE Yoga: 3000 BCE First flush toilet systems: 3000 BCE Ruler: 3000 BCE Buttons: 3000 BCE World's earliest dockyard: 3000 BCE Metallurgy: 3000 BCE Cotton cultivation: 3000 BCE Shampoo: 2000 BCE Ayurveda: 2000 BCE Invention of Chess: 1500 BCE Cotton: Natural Fibers and Cultivation: 1000 BCE Oldest University, Taxila: 1000 BCE Democratic republic system: 800 BCE (before Athenian democracy) Pythagorean theorem: 700 BCE Earth's orbit: 600 BCE Cataract Surgery, Plastic Surgery: 600 BCE First book based on economic and political science, Arthashastra: 300 BCE Fibonacci numbers: 200 BCE Systematic organized education system: 1000 BCE - 500 CE Modern numerals: 500 BCE - 500 CE The Decimal System and the Idea of Zero: 500 CE Algebra, Trigonometry, and the Fundamentals of Calculus-300 CE
But the dharmic religions definitely do have heaven & hell-realms. They're just also equally illusory, unlike in the Christian/Islamic worldview. This overlooks karma.
I vote for rise of Islam next week, especially considering how much the traditional narrative often leaves out, including the role of Christianity in the pre-Islamic world and in the rise of Mohamed, as well as various theories about the true location of Mecca, the authorship of the Quran, the religion of the early caliphates, etc!
Personally, I'd divide india into 3. Aryan Hindu civilization, Dravidian Hindu Civilization, and lastly, British Hindu civilization (the parts of India that were british provinces instead of princely states)
This podcast has been frustrating to me at times. But I don't necessarily disagree with anything that you have said. My frustration comes with trying to understand the reasons for why the things that you have said would happen. For example : (1) reason for caste system as wanting separate ethnicities. It could very well be possible. (2) reason for the existence of Indian mystics as a coping mechanism for intelligent men in being disposessed. Again very plausible. (3) 'Hindus' winning against the Buddhas, by appealing to the masses and the nobility? Maybe, although I don't fully get it. Although as these reasons seem logically plausible, what I find confusing is in trying to incorporate the other realities of human societies and how they should work. Because, by your own conclusions(correct me if I am wrong) Indian society was millitarily weak and focused more on 'spirituality', the priests controlled the society even above the military. So with a weak, priest, ruling class, how would it be possible for them to (1) try and enforce any of this on a vast majority lower caste population, and more importantly (2) force them to follows this for 1000s of years(by your own conclusion). I mean it doesn't make sense right??? I have a different view or understanding what might have happened, which even I am not entirely confident in. But I would like to know your thoughts on this.
India seems like a based country/civilization if it wasn't for the polluted Ganges river, the low rate of residential bathroom plumbing, and the craziest spicy food styles....
go and actually compare historical empires though = the British is "better" than the Spanish, French, Russian, Japanese or Nazi Germany in Africa, the English speaking countries are more developed than the Francophone Africa USA, Canada is defo nicer than Mexico, Brazil or Argentina and HK, Singapore, Malaysia are all nicer than Vietnam, Philippines, etc Rudyard says something similar but yeah I agree
@@henrystokes1987 rather i'll ask you = what do you mean by the term, racism? (superiority of a culture?) though "superior", I do dislike arrogance. China's traditional culture has influenced Korea, Japan and even Vietnam whilst India's culture influenced a lot of Malay Archipelago and people on Bali still believes in Hinduism I despise the blatant CCP nationalist who goes on arrogantly about it and their mindset but you can't dispute the historical influence over it those idiots just get carried away though.
adding an extra point = after the Song dynasty, there was never really another high point in Chinese culture again, and I'd say arrogance played a part? the Chinese just kept preserving the values of their past generations as to them = all that is discovered is already discovered. this is why I despise arrogance. I'm originally from China, its why I went off on a tangent...
Reducing the Indian Maya to the "world isn't real" is hilariously gross. Further using that as an explanation for why Indians don't have as many records is honestly belligerent.
Ok this look like a very poor understanding of the Indian history, if anyone wants a better understanding then watch "The End of Hinduism" by Abhijit Iyer Mitra
You are not steel manning the arguments of Indian right wingers at all before criticizing them. You are putting down arguments made my silly trolls and think you have proven all Hindu nationalists wrong.
54:38 Alright Rudyard, you have told us the British during the industrial revolution pretty much had no empathy and if the poor starved thats their own fault. THEY WERE NOT, the nicest colonial empire. Maybe you meant the most DEVELOPED, but definitely not the nicest.
Actually the French were better in India. French controlled parts of India are doing pretty good and is absolutely beautiful. The French controlled some parts of India some 10 years after the British left. They left after being asked nicely too but not before letting people have a choice to receive French citizenship. Therefore some people in these areas still vote in the French presidential elections. Anyway it is not known that they persecuted anyone or committed any atrocities. French even allowed Indian freedom fighters escaping the British areas to live in their areas as political refugees.
@@random_shit_online6104 French left only in 1954, 7 years after India's independence from the British (Yes, they did control a few areas after the Anglo-French war). Indian government negotiated with them to give these areas back. In contrast the Portuguese refused to do so which prompted India to launch a military campaign to take back Portuguese controlled Goa
the french control over those parts was already weakening, they had no choice. the portuguese refused to negotiate. both were equally disgusting to me personally. the french are not any better than any other colonizers, esp with what they did in vietnam.
@@random_shit_online6104 These places were not worth any strategic value either. But unlike the others French never committed any atrocity or anything in India. Even the local councils in French territory were represented by locals. These people had a greater degree of freedom and autonomy. When they left they gave French citizenship to anyone who wanted it. Overall their whole stay in India was very civil. Their colonial policies in Vietnam or Algeria however remains as a disgrace to them.
@@captainfury497 they had already lost the places of strategic importance to the British. seems about right. you could argue that facing defeat at the hands of the British and witnessing the various rebellions had them acting civil, but ig i could give you the W here. the 'net positive' that my man here in the video is talking about, I wonder to what level that is true. but one thing i can say benefitted us Indians was the fact that it acted as our gateway to the modern world. if not for colonialism, i suspect another mass invasion from the north-west would have done the same, as observed from studying history (the aryans brought horses and chariot-making, the mughals the art of cannon-making )
The author have not included latest archeological finds of Harappan era civilization sites at Sinholi and other places in morden day hariyan and uttar pradesh. A lot his theory will get challenged.
Brother, No Indian records mentioned Alexander because he was nobody to India. Even Taxila (Takshashila) University scholer never mentioned about Alexander because they knew a weak king like him can't do anything to India i.e. Bharatvarsha. Even only greek historians mentioned about that Alexander won but only because Porus fought graciously he didn't killed him(That time honour was very important for Indian kings loosing in war means death for them, you really think Porus would have kept himself alive after loosing to Alexander? No, He would have committed s+cide. If he would have lost.) . While the most of the Indian historian wrote that Porus won against Alexander that's why due to shame he was going back to his country.
Did the indian historians write it or did Modi spell it out for you in your indian school text books...? he beat Porus, he beat PERSIA, he took PERSIA the longest empire of its time he only didn't take you because of all the forces he used up in conquering the middle east and Afghanistan, he was going for you and he might as well have done it but rebellion stopped him. You really think a dude who wakes up one day and takes the Achaemenid empire, Phoenicia, Egypt and Afghanistan couldn't take India too? how about you study actual world history and then compare it to Modi history and then draw your own conclusions.
To give credit to the Indian nationalists, when your worldview denies that reality exists, it only makes sense that they would deny realities like the caste system, Indo-Aryan invasions, etc., lmaoo
Reading more will solve so many problems for people like that. I am also an Indian nationalist but I don't roam around claiming things I don't myself feel very sure about.
Indo Aryan invasion has been debunked for approximately 55 years and fell out of favour in academia about 40 years ago for the Aryan migration theory as approximately 0 evidence of an armed, large scale invasion exists, you can check it right now with a quick Google search or a talk to an actual academic. Cry me a river about it, Europe got invaded and the EEF men got genocided and the women raped by Corded-Ware (who aren't even Aryan), Indian natives and the proto-Iranian farmers living in India didn't, they mixed in and their culture ended up staying more relevant than the rural and undisputedly less developed Aryan culture, if this triggers you then know that facts don't care about feelings😂
Ruydard, my brother in Christ, you need better sources for hispanic history ASAP. Get som hispanic authors, Julian Juderías, Vasconcelos, Marcelo Gullo, Elvira Roca Barea, Gustavo Bueno. Or even some anglos who are not mislead like Stanley G. Payne or P. H. powell You are mislead by the black legend and it shows! An historian of your talent deserve better.
@@atlistihavesenseofhumorlol2051 true but he mention "Latin America" as an example of cast system and he's done it dozens of times. We hispanics try to tell him over and over again he needs to improve his knowledge of Hispanic civilization and he just ignores us and keeps repeating black legends topics over and over again. I'll be honest, is kind of frustrating because I love his work and I sincerely want him to be better.
@Canario_27 what is Rudyard misinformed about regarding Hispanic civilization? Genuine question, I've seen most of his Hispanic content so feel free to reference any of his past statements
@@brycebaggoo5388 I would recommend the comment section of his video on understanding Hispanic civilization. Check for the comments that reference the black legend, most of them have a nuance criticism. His most recurrent error is to describe the XVIth century Spanish empire as an European colonial superpower of the XIXth. The Spanish empire was a decentralise medieval monarchy, base on aristocratic rule (not based on race like a cast system), city building, rule of local laws, heavy focus on mixing with the local population and conversion to Catholicism was the main goal. XIXth Colonialism was mainly focus on resources extraction to enrich the metropoly. No mixing with the locals, Europeans where always on a top position, almost no infrastructure beyond roads and ports to extract the resource, not messing with local religions, etc. It's imposible to be more nuance in a TH-cam comment, if you are interested I would recommend checking the authors I quoted or searching info on the Spanish black legend to see the problem we have with our own historiography (wich by the way is our fault) Cheers!
This is exactly the problem when amateurs start talking about a subject they know very little about - The mauryans never wrote: some of the best pieces of indian writing emerged around this time, for example arthashastra by kautilya that pretty much laid the basis of indian empires for many centuries later. There was no greek invasion of northern india right after alexander, the kushan empire did occupy parts of northern india but that was after the mauryan collapse, not before. And they too were short lived as they got beaten by the guptas shortly after. Castes are ethnic groups : started laughing at this one😂, it is true that after the caste system solidified at around the end of the tripartite struggle at around 1000 ad, but before caste as a system was quite lose where intermarriages were really common. Even i as a bengali kayastha have had multiple ancestors from different castes wjthin the last 5 generations, brahmins, kayastha, baidya, etc. Mauryans were a buddhist empire : i mean come on do ur research before making these claims. Ashoka the last truly great mauryan empire converted to buddhism towards the end of his conquests, the dudes before him were not. The sati and pardah systems that u talked about where women were opressed solidified during muslim rule, it wasnt characteristic of hindu society. The sati system developed as a reaction to islamic conquests to save the women from warrior households from humiliation and it only really took place in limited places in india. Hindu texts like the kamasutra and mahabharata openly talked about female sexual health and well being. Overall clearly biased and poorly researched. There were plenty of other facts that u got wrong, but these i can remember from the top of my head. U clearly arent in a position to make videos or claims given ur poor research. Hard to beleive in ur philosophical civilizational based claims given the hints of bias i sensed in ur video.
Lots of corrections.
1.The Indo-Greek invasion of North India happens only after the Mauryans have already collapsed the person who beat them back was a Brahman King and the founder of Shunga Dynasty.
2. Mauryans were not Buddhists. They started out as a Hindu Kingdom under Chandragupta and and converted to Buddhism under Ashoka.
3.The practice of Sati and widow burning has been exaggerated and this has been stated previously by the governor general of British India himself who said it was a niche practice among warrior class woman in Bengal and Rajputana.
4. Several lower castes Like Jats and Marathas were able to form their kingdom during the collapse of the mughal empire.
5. Genetic evidence shows that the caste system was probably fully crystallized by 500 bce since to maintain the level of steppe ancestry a Brahmin and Dalit has (North Indian brahmins have around 28% steppe ancestry compared to 8% for dalits) there needed to have 99% in-group marriages.
6. The Gupta empire is when most of modern hinduism was codified as mahabharatas Ramayana and upanishas were written down.
To understand the downfall of buddhism in India watch this video, It summarizes the entire situation much better than me. The downfall of Buddhism was mostly a result of Buddhist monks being happy with being treated as Upper castes by Hindu Nobility and losing philosiphical battles.
th-cam.com/video/y8GNgWatUwE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZroV3q-p5ofo-1ds
Ruydard: they were conquered by the arians
The voice in my head: “Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And onto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!”
WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?
Where is that line from? Very poetic. 📝
@DarthHoosier3038 It's from the movie "Conan the Barbarian" from 1982.
You got me hooked.
@@SolarDragon007 cool thanks
I must say the host has gotten much much better at asking questions. Cheers!!
this is a topic that literally no one knows about (except Indians)
17:55: You say varna when you mean Vaisha. Varna is the Sanskrit/Hindi term for what we call caste in English.
Vaishyas are merchants and Shudras are peasants. He missed one varna
Indian here, the important figure you missed is adi shankacharya who basically reformed Hinduism by incorporating the Buddhist principles.
Another cool fact is that Buddha himself took a lot of things from the Upanishads to create his creed so Hindus are not entirely wrong when they say Buddhism is a sub sect of Hinduism.
I would have liked shedding more light on the Upanishads and Vedanta since they are really the highest peak of Indian culture and philosophy.
Ya he also can be credited for a lot of things that Sanatani are doing today like in philosophy, temples and more as well. Kind of weird that he talks about Buddhism history in the Indian Subcontinent but don't know about him.
Small correction: The Corded ware was responsible for the vast majority of the Indo-European expansion, not directly the Yamnayans.
Not the Andronovo?
You are showing you don't understand who they were+ Yamnaya autosomal characteristics are very close to the Corded Ware culture people, with up to 75% Yamnaya-like ancestry in the DNA of Corded Ware skeletons from Central and Eastern Europe.
They were the same people or very close cousins.
@@danmoritz3319 Corded ware and Sinthastha are merely cousins, not descendants of one another. And they all originate in Armenia anyway, don't know why that piece of modern evidence gets thrown out of the window when talking about the Indo-Europeans
No this whole hypothesis is wrong bro the indus valley was already indo aryan or indo european before the corded ware descendant arrived
@@snehasishpandathreesixzero121 - No, it's not wrong, not a hypothesis.
There are historical records from contemporary ancient Egypt.
An Egyptian and a Scythian were having an argument about which ethnicity was actually older.
The Egyptian, finally conceded that the Scythian culture really was more ancient. True story. It's in an ancient Egyptian text of several millennia ago.
It's not a jab, it's a sad statement of the faulty, maybe intentionally faulty, education system.
Most don't know the true, primary veins, of real history, especially pre-Greco Roman history.
I've been waiting for an episode explaining India, really helpful
The castes being different ethnic groups is an understatement, people of different caste from the same village are futher genetically then Italians and Norwegians.
Thats actually false lol.
I think ethnic groups are not entirely determined by genetics
@SafavidAfsharid3197
it's a bit of both. Obviously less now but 200 years ago.....
@@SafavidAfsharid3197 cope
You are missing shankaracharya and Gupta empire
He is trying to create conclusive narrative out of limited knowledge he have of india. His knowledge about india is not all wrong but very limited so narrative is also very vague and highly misleading.
This is about ancient india from 3000bc to 0 AD
This is the first time I have watched one of your videos. I must admit, as a lifetime lover of history, I am very impressed.
what an incredible video thank you for taking the time out of your day to make this means a lot to many many people❤
India mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 🪷🥻🛕🛕🛕🛕🔱🔱🔱🥻🥻🕌🕍⛪. Wtf is a call centre??
We're getting out of samsara with this one, boys!
Hello sir. I am calling from the bank of Punjab. There is a problem with your account please give me your bank details. 😂
Sir, number on the front and 3 digits on the back please. Also your address? Your dog's name, sir?
Love this.... please do more on India and the East
Great video. Finally figured out your comp. Dwight from The Office but History focused. 😂
i actually enjoyed this take and am not a hindu-nationalist ( inspite of being a Hindu ) ..its a good perspective on how India keeps losing track of the real deal and then reverts to the mean .. one important historical figure u missed is Ashoka ( Chandragupta's grandson ) who single handedly started indian recordings via stone edicts .. no written records older than that for such an ancient civilization ( with the exception of the indus valley "script", if u can call it that )
This was really cool to learn about.
Will you ever learn about and make a video about Sikh History, it’s extremely interesting and new
Guru Nanak was born almost 555 years ago and the Khalsa was established only 325 years ago
They were very different from the Hindus, no polytheism invaded their neighbors got annexed by Britain 100 years after India after their civil war between gov and military etc
nice background while playing civ 5 :D
Could you do an episode on the 30 Years War and its related conflicts?
Thank you!
Does anyone know a good book or place to read more about how coins reshaped societal relations?
Debt by David Grabber
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I'd encourage people to read the "Kama Sutra". Contrary to the popular belief, it's actually a book about wordly pleasures and the material world in general, sex only being a small part. The book is all about how to indulge in pleasurable activities, how to decorate your house, how to dress in a dignified manner etc. It's even got a long list of skills that women should learn in case they get separated from their husband for any reason.
Asoka the Great say’s hello!
Isn't there losts of recorded text from the vedic period, so pre 1000ad even before 0ad and well into bce?
37:54 i believe this part, apparently Buddhist statues in China had a change in its decorations/the way it's made and apparently this was from Bactria?
Ancient, classical and medieval China, please! I've known for a long time that I don't understand it and I want to.
pls make tibetan civilization
I am a Gen Z Indian, and I will thank you for your attempt at an unbiased and honest explanation of this part of the world. I totally agree with the fact that the British were a necessary net positive, to the country. For example, in my great grandparents time, there was no norm of counting age of people, neither was there any literacy. India, certainly wasn't the half barbarous shithole, colonial histories somewhat make it up to be, but it was also not a society ready for the modernity. British rule was necessary to open it up.
I disagree the only net positive I think the British did was unifying indians under a common identity which was a result of common struggle against British Empire other than that we were very much capable of figuring out pretty much everything else for sure
even iam a gen z indian , i totally disagree your opinion, british india was surely a dark age to the subcontinent.
Man you need to read some books , there is no way it was positive at all. You’d would have been a good Uncle Tom !
SOME INSIGHTFUL ADDITIONS
-> The cast system was very much responsible for weaker Indian militaries during the Islamic invasion as Casts were ridges and if a kingdom lost most of it's army men in a battle, it took some time to fill that human resource as recruiting people from the different cast was not an options, and farmers and traders world often not participate in battles and would rather pay taxes to the new king.
-> The lack of supply of men to the Indian ruling cast in the north-west(where most of the initial battles happened) was resolved by the priests(Brhamans) as the Brahamans lost most of the benefits under the Islamic kings so the Brahamans encouraged people of other casts to transition to warriors casts(adopting new customs and non-vig diet). One such event was called the "AgniKula" where a lot of people belonging to the farming cast became Kshatriyas(warriors casts) my ancestors being one of them but they switched back to farming later on.
-> Untouchables were not always poor as depicted by (Christian Western historians), people from Lowe casts had monopolies just like small businesses because no one else in the village was allowed to do their work, so they were not poor but they were discriminated against. especially in the Ancient Indian context. This is even true today where a person from lower cast eg. a barber makes the same money as a farmer in some villages because the guy has complete monopoly over the business and it's protected by the system.
-> Joining the Ruling cast became undesirable especially as the number of battles increased and more and more people from those casts started losing their lives, people from other merchant cast would rather opt to pay higher Islamic tax(jizyah) rather than lose their lives. To counter this the Brahmans started to promote things like Honour, sex and materialistic benefits that came with the power of rule and temples and texts promoting these things became popular.
->Cow dung is not holy in India it's used as fuel for burning instead of wood in the regions that don't have dense forests predominantly the north-west(i am from there). Also, nobody eats cow dung it was THE most ignorant comment by you, like literally wtf!
-> Cow urine was used as a medical ingredient in Old Ayurveda just like how the Chinese used all sorts of weird things, how the Arabs used camel urine(sahih al-bukhari 5686) and how the Christians had some ridiculous treatments for diseases, eg dust water abortion( Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 5:11-31 - New International Version ).
Thanks for this. Notes
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Well, you may not eat the dung but I've seen the pictures of the festival where you roll in it shirtless.
What can you tell me about this practice?
Dank you come again.
DEI rules
I think the island today we call Sri Lanka has played a important part in Indian politics throughout the history, as it is today. Sri Lankan Buddhist believe that Mayuryan Empire Ashoka sent his own son and daughter (both Buddhist monks) to bring Buddhism to Sri Lanka. That claim seems to have played significant role in deciding the politics of Sri Lanka throughout the history, as it is today. The Buddhist kingdom of Anuradhapura has controlled the important navel ports in this Island which is located in a strategically important location for Arabian and Chinese sailors.
Rudyard, after your tweet from the other day I am now eagerly awaiting your book on world history 😁
Fr fr no cap. Straight busing
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Please don't talk like that or else I'll be unsubscribing....
You wouldn't want me to do that would you?
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"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word." - Operation: Knightfall "Knightfall" - Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)
Ah yes, back when the lore actually understood that nuance and not inhibitor chips were far more interesting and logical.
I have got to play this game! Glad I bought the original versions on steam recently
@@orboakin8074 "Watch those wrist rockets!"
@@Maytrx 🤣
@@thegunslinger8806 basically before disney bought and ruined Star Wars😔
have you read Ramayan?
That's a pretty good overview of the origins of the main influences of Indian civilization,, acknowledging the importance of British influences in recent times, Rudyard.
Do the Scythians.
I work with nothing but Punjabis. Many are arrogant and deluded but I like them. I've also heard claims that all Caucasian people are just Albino Indians...many have a inferiority/superiority complex due to British rule among other things.
Much of the accomplishments of Islams must be veiwed through Islam being a blanket over an earlier great civilization, the Persians and to some degree the others in the region that preceeded Islam, in the same way the accomplishments of Europe are not mainly due to Christianity but in spite of it. Aristotle was not a Christian and he had already set most Western accomplishments into motion. Similarly there were already great civilizations all across Europe, with great cultures, similar to the Hindus, long before Jesus was turning water to wine, etc. Christianity just became a big corporation that claimed credit for what was already there, same with Islam.
Arrogant Punjabis? Well, that's new.
Punjabis and claiming to be white for whatever reason, tale as old as time. It's weird because I'm a pale skinned Bengali who grew up amongst a lot of Punjabis, they thought I wasn't Bengali because of my skin colour. The hysteria with skin in this country is pretty hilarious when you realise how mixed everyone is, especially considering I have extended family who are blacker than coal and also plenty of people who are different shades of brown.
58:15 whats the name of the site he mentioned?
Alibris
@@bevbevan6189 thanks
now we're talking 😁😁
Looking forward to the un-biased and good natured discussions in the comment section.
Hi, I'm unbiased and good natured. AMA
Chanakya is also someone to look at
Didn’t mention the Scythians, I’m curious were they just aryans that mass immigrated around the time of Jesus that eventually became the Jatts, since Jatts have more steppe ancestory percentage than bramins
Scythians were Aryans who remained in Central Asia and migrated later to different parts of Eurasia like the Alans who conquered Spain were Scythians(Alan is a corruption of Aryan )
Great discussion, full of interesting interpretations on Indian and world history.
As a young person I was very interested in Buddhism, it made sense to me, Hinduism on the other hand is a bizarre incomprehensible mess.
The way I approach Hinduism is seeing it as multiple sets of philosophies. I'm personally very partial to the Advaita Vedanta sect which is quite similar to Buddhism. In fact there was a confluence of ideas between Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta :)
@@lbell9695 Interesting, I will go read a bit about Advaita Vedanta
@@atheistbushman Definitely recommend it! In a nutshell, the main difference between the two from my understanding is Buddhism says the essence of everything is nothing, whilst in Advaita Vedanta, the essence of everything is pure consciousness. But apart from that main difference, a lot of the concepts are quite similar.
Hello Rudyard,
Been looking for histories on Ancient India, I saw your twitter post on your recommendations. Please tell me about the books which you read that were disingenuous, which you described as Hindu Propaganda.
Thank You and Have a nice day
He once called one of Shashi Tharoor's work as nationalist.
I know there are people who are pushing their agenda by claiming false things but I still won't believe this guy all the time.
Also it’s not because they didn’t feel like recording history it’s because the priests and learned people focused on oral knowledge. Literally inscription evidence goes way past 1000 AD.
Jai Hind. Vande Mataram. Bharata Mata Ki Jai.
As someone with D.I.D., I can confirm, without a doubt, that reality is indeed, not real.
We up
A lot of things have been said here some are true while others are plane untrue/ non factual. I don't have the time to go over all the points but here are few of them.
1. About writing things down - They did even though majority of it was destroyed in the destruction of the Universities. The ones that survived were passed on in the forms of Puranas or other religious text which talks about lineages of Kings and surprise surprise they talk about Chandragupta Maurya and his decedents. Historians when they first learned about this empire they didn't know about his and Ashok's relationship but these text helped them not only Ashok but even his line till the Empire came to an end. Also about them about not mentioning alexander yes they don't mention him but they talk a lot about his general Seleucus and how he was defeated and gave his Eastern part of this Empire to Chandragupta Maurya. Maurya's wrote in pillars and spread them throughout their Empire and in many of these pillars were laws that would be written for people to read which even exists today, imagine metal pillars lasting 2000+ years.
2. British - There are a lot of this that can be said about them but here are some first you're write they didn't provide any food which resulted in millions of deaths and many got saved since they left direct British controlled areas to that of Princely states where the local Kings gave them food and shelters. The British also deliberately didn't allow the world to know about how big the famines actually were since the PRESS were not allowed to even do their job. Also like what you had said that Indians did have Universities a lot of which allowed for native educations but many of the Universities were destroyed by Turks but the native educations still went on which was seen as a threat and destroyed by the British, read about what Macaulay learned while his research on Indian native education system and what lengths he went to replace it with English.
3. Cast System - I'll give you the example of the person you brought up in the video to disprove it, Chandragupta Maurya, was an Shudra and he was helped by Chanakya a Brahmin to become the Emperor not only that but the previous King of Eastern India was also a low cast which some Modern historians credit his kingdom of adding fear to alexander's army to return. Also with this and the Britsh, Dr. Ambedkar, a low cast person who when on to get education and fought against cast system in British India gives credit to cast system not being with Vedas or Hinduism but of British. Also if you look at the census of the Princes/Kings of India under the British they you would see like more then 70% of them belonging to the "Low Cast".
4. Women - atleast the second half of the video is completely wrong like Women can Remarry like it's even in the Rigveda 10.18.8, which is opposite of sati which is also the reason why there were only handful of cases and in those cases the family member like her son would stop them from doing it. About them not owning properties is also false since both sons and daughters were given those properties good examples is when british were on the conquest of India their allies when the king didn't have any sons and the daughters were brought to inherit the kingdoms the British would deny it saying it they don't allow women to inherit anything from her father thus forcefully turning it into their colonies Example like Rani Lakshmi Bai.
5. Greeks - the reason they wouldn't have written anything about Alexander might be that in Indian context he really didn't do much since he just came to western parts, fought some weak chieftains and left. Porus and his kingdom isn't even considered that much strong compare to the 16 Great Republics. And Alexander had one of his most difficult battle against one of the weakest Indian Kings so it doesn't say much about him. But his general Seleucus is mention since he actually fought Chandragupta Maurya who was much stronger then Porus and he defeated the Nandas who are believed to have scared Alexander's army. About Gecro-Indians, they did came by defeting a lot of Indians kings but they were stopped by a Brahmin King Pushyamitra Sunga and by the time of the Kushan Empire all the Greeks and their traces would be destroyed and be left with Hindu/Buddhist.
These are just few things that I caught but there are more like about the discoveries that they made on medicine, science, math, and more before 0AD as well as in trade but that's for more medieval time but I only had time for just these.
One ancient case of higher caste turning lower to royalty doesn't disprove the entire system for the entirety of time, and even if today thanks to westernization caste system is abolished people, especially in rural areas and the south, still live by it.
And yes, it does say a lot about Alexander because his army came from curbstomping Persia and through Afghanistan AND they were already tired and rebelling against him, so it doesn't "not say much about him" but he was already at the tail end of his forces anyway.
Sati emerged after 400 CE with the arrival of certain groups. They never mention the witch hunts in Europe, which were even more severe than those in India. Indian dramas began around the same time as ancient Greek ones, but unlike the ancient Greeks who had men playing women's roles, we allowed women to act in dramas. Some of the Upanishads were written by women such as Maitreyi and Gargi.
Women participated in public debates just like men in ancient India. If you look at the carvings in our ancient temples, women are depicted more freely and vibrantly compared to their counterparts in Abrahamic religions. Additionally, we had some of the earliest democratic city-states, similar to the Greeks. We also had one of the earliest universities in the world.
Indians invented -Meditation: 5000 BCE
Yoga: 3000 BCE
First flush toilet systems: 3000 BCE
Ruler: 3000 BCE
Buttons: 3000 BCE
World's earliest dockyard: 3000 BCE
Metallurgy: 3000 BCE
Cotton cultivation: 3000 BCE
Shampoo: 2000 BCE
Ayurveda: 2000 BCE
Invention of Chess: 1500 BCE
Cotton: Natural Fibers and Cultivation: 1000 BCE
Oldest University, Taxila: 1000 BCE
Democratic republic system: 800 BCE (before Athenian democracy)
Pythagorean theorem: 700 BCE
Earth's orbit: 600 BCE
Cataract Surgery, Plastic Surgery: 600 BCE
First book based on economic and political science, Arthashastra: 300 BCE
Fibonacci numbers: 200 BCE
Systematic organized education system: 1000 BCE - 500 CE
Modern numerals: 500 BCE - 500 CE
The Decimal System and the Idea of Zero: 500 CE
Algebra, Trigonometry, and the Fundamentals of Calculus-300 CE
This should be good.
Sirs please redeem
Interesting. Difficult to follow.
But the dharmic religions definitely do have heaven & hell-realms. They're just also equally illusory, unlike in the Christian/Islamic worldview. This overlooks karma.
I vote for rise of Islam next week, especially considering how much the traditional narrative often leaves out, including the role of Christianity in the pre-Islamic world and in the rise of Mohamed, as well as various theories about the true location of Mecca, the authorship of the Quran, the religion of the early caliphates, etc!
Most of theories are by people who have an agenda and they have very little backing
Hope he makes an Islam video!
Hoping for Islam or Japan, maybe Assyria
We are the Yamnaya people. We went west after the Battle of the Ten Kings. R1a haplogroups predate R1b. Jai Rajiv Malhotra ji and Abhijit Chavda ji.
... You ain't the yamnayas.And r1a DOESN'T predate r1b sorry.
Explaing israeli civilization 1
It's just a speech of German Mustache Man.
@@notsocrates9529 wut
What Israeli civilization?
>Jews
>Civilization
Lol, lmao
@@tuckerbugeater The truth.
Rise of Islam and what Islam means for future Europe.
Personally, I'd divide india into 3. Aryan Hindu civilization, Dravidian Hindu Civilization, and lastly, British Hindu civilization (the parts of India that were british provinces instead of princely states)
What the sigma
for what ?
It is okay to question and disagree with details of the "Aryan Invasion theory". Even the experts who study these topics don't agree on everything.
This podcast has been frustrating to me at times. But I don't necessarily disagree with anything that you have said. My frustration comes with trying to understand the reasons for why the things that you have said would happen.
For example : (1) reason for caste system as wanting separate ethnicities. It could very well be possible. (2) reason for the existence of Indian mystics as a coping mechanism for intelligent men in being disposessed. Again very plausible. (3) 'Hindus' winning against the Buddhas, by appealing to the masses and the nobility? Maybe, although I don't fully get it.
Although as these reasons seem logically plausible, what I find confusing is in trying to incorporate the other realities of human societies and how they should work. Because, by your own conclusions(correct me if I am wrong) Indian society was millitarily weak and focused more on 'spirituality', the priests controlled the society even above the military. So with a weak, priest, ruling class, how would it be possible for them to (1) try and enforce any of this on a vast majority lower caste population, and more importantly (2) force them to follows this for 1000s of years(by your own conclusion). I mean it doesn't make sense right???
I have a different view or understanding what might have happened, which even I am not entirely confident in. But I would like to know your thoughts on this.
EXPLAINING ISRAELI CIVILIZATION
You are surrounded by people who want to kill you. Try not to die!
Britain was a net positive for India, but a horrible event for Bangladesh
Haven’t watched it yet but no way this video doesnt summon the 1.4(?) billion Indians to the comments.
No because most don't care.
@@ShivanshThakur-sh8ub You sure? I see an awful lot of them here
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd search what is 0.01 percent of 1.4 billion
Make the islam video next
India seems like a based country/civilization if it wasn't for the polluted Ganges river, the low rate of residential bathroom plumbing, and the craziest spicy food styles....
"I'm not JUST a racist Anglo-Colonial" - Rudyard 55:34
go and actually compare historical empires though = the British is "better" than the Spanish, French, Russian, Japanese or Nazi Germany
in Africa, the English speaking countries are more developed than the Francophone Africa
USA, Canada is defo nicer than Mexico, Brazil or Argentina
and HK, Singapore, Malaysia are all nicer than Vietnam, Philippines, etc
Rudyard says something similar but yeah I agree
@@yux.tn.3641 I don't disagree with you. But the quote is hilarious. Freudian slip or just tragic phrasing? Lol
@@henrystokes1987 i don't even know what i quoted
tragic phrasing i guess
@@henrystokes1987
rather i'll ask you = what do you mean by the term, racism? (superiority of a culture?)
though "superior", I do dislike arrogance.
China's traditional culture has influenced Korea, Japan and even Vietnam whilst India's culture influenced a lot of Malay Archipelago and people on Bali still believes in Hinduism
I despise the blatant CCP nationalist who goes on arrogantly about it and their mindset but you can't dispute the historical influence over it
those idiots just get carried away though.
adding an extra point = after the Song dynasty, there was never really another high point in Chinese culture again, and I'd say arrogance played a part?
the Chinese just kept preserving the values of their past generations as to them = all that is discovered is already discovered.
this is why I despise arrogance.
I'm originally from China, its why I went off on a tangent...
Definitely Ancient China
Reducing the Indian Maya to the "world isn't real" is hilariously gross. Further using that as an explanation for why Indians don't have as many records is honestly belligerent.
Make an Islam video next!!!
Ok this look like a very poor understanding of the Indian history, if anyone wants a better understanding then watch "The End of Hinduism" by Abhijit Iyer Mitra
You are not steel manning the arguments of Indian right wingers at all before criticizing them. You are putting down arguments made my silly trolls and think you have proven all Hindu nationalists wrong.
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Alright Rudyard, you have told us the British during the industrial revolution pretty much had no empathy and if the poor starved thats their own fault. THEY WERE NOT, the nicest colonial empire.
Maybe you meant the most DEVELOPED, but definitely not the nicest.
Interesting topic. Wish you would stop idolizing a criminal like andrew tate.
I'm a Jain haha
I will never understand your uploading schedule lmao
Actually the French were better in India. French controlled parts of India are doing pretty good and is absolutely beautiful. The French controlled some parts of India some 10 years after the British left. They left after being asked nicely too but not before letting people have a choice to receive French citizenship. Therefore some people in these areas still vote in the French presidential elections.
Anyway it is not known that they persecuted anyone or committed any atrocities. French even allowed Indian freedom fighters escaping the British areas to live in their areas as political refugees.
"left after being asked nicely" the anglo-french war? on Indian soil?
@@random_shit_online6104 French left only in 1954, 7 years after India's independence from the British (Yes, they did control a few areas after the Anglo-French war). Indian government negotiated with them to give these areas back. In contrast the Portuguese refused to do so which prompted India to launch a military campaign to take back Portuguese controlled Goa
the french control over those parts was already weakening, they had no choice. the portuguese refused to negotiate. both were equally disgusting to me personally. the french are not any better than any other colonizers, esp with what they did in vietnam.
@@random_shit_online6104 These places were not worth any strategic value either. But unlike the others French never committed any atrocity or anything in India. Even the local councils in French territory were represented by locals. These people had a greater degree of freedom and autonomy. When they left they gave French citizenship to anyone who wanted it. Overall their whole stay in India was very civil.
Their colonial policies in Vietnam or Algeria however remains as a disgrace to them.
@@captainfury497 they had already lost the places of strategic importance to the British. seems about right. you could argue that facing defeat at the hands of the British and witnessing the various rebellions had them acting civil, but ig i could give you the W here.
the 'net positive' that my man here in the video is talking about, I wonder to what level that is true. but one thing i can say benefitted us Indians was the fact that it acted as our gateway to the modern world. if not for colonialism, i suspect another mass invasion from the north-west would have done the same, as observed from studying history (the aryans brought horses and chariot-making, the mughals the art of cannon-making )
The author have not included latest archeological finds of Harappan era civilization sites at Sinholi and other places in morden day hariyan and uttar pradesh.
A lot his theory will get challenged.
zero was also invented in mesoamerica
There are written records before 1000 AD.
missed the islam/persiante part of history
This is focused on Ancient India - he said he is going to do one on medieval India
That should be really interesting
Brother, No Indian records mentioned Alexander because he was nobody to India. Even Taxila (Takshashila) University scholer never mentioned about Alexander because they knew a weak king like him can't do anything to India i.e. Bharatvarsha.
Even only greek historians mentioned about that Alexander won but only because Porus fought graciously he didn't killed him(That time honour was very important for Indian kings loosing in war means death for them, you really think Porus would have kept himself alive after loosing to Alexander? No, He would have committed s+cide. If he would have lost.) . While the most of the Indian historian wrote that Porus won against Alexander that's why due to shame he was going back to his country.
Did the indian historians write it or did Modi spell it out for you in your indian school text books...? he beat Porus, he beat PERSIA, he took PERSIA the longest empire of its time he only didn't take you because of all the forces he used up in conquering the middle east and Afghanistan, he was going for you and he might as well have done it but rebellion stopped him. You really think a dude who wakes up one day and takes the Achaemenid empire, Phoenicia, Egypt and Afghanistan couldn't take India too? how about you study actual world history and then compare it to Modi history and then draw your own conclusions.
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You are a right winger who thinks other civilizations can't be right wingers as well.
You guys escaped from mental asylum or what?
We all did
Na your mom's house. God bless. 😊
We're all visitors here!
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To give credit to the Indian nationalists, when your worldview denies that reality exists, it only makes sense that they would deny realities like the caste system, Indo-Aryan invasions, etc., lmaoo
ouch
i sort of worry the Hindu nationalists might end up something like China today
Reading more will solve so many problems for people like that.
I am also an Indian nationalist but I don't roam around claiming things I don't myself feel very sure about.
Indo Aryan invasion has been debunked for approximately 55 years and fell out of favour in academia about 40 years ago for the Aryan migration theory as approximately 0 evidence of an armed, large scale invasion exists, you can check it right now with a quick Google search or a talk to an actual academic. Cry me a river about it, Europe got invaded and the EEF men got genocided and the women raped by Corded-Ware (who aren't even Aryan), Indian natives and the proto-Iranian farmers living in India didn't, they mixed in and their culture ended up staying more relevant than the rural and undisputedly less developed Aryan culture, if this triggers you then know that facts don't care about feelings😂
Ruydard, my brother in Christ, you need better sources for hispanic history ASAP.
Get som hispanic authors, Julian Juderías, Vasconcelos, Marcelo Gullo, Elvira Roca Barea, Gustavo Bueno. Or even some anglos who are not mislead like Stanley G. Payne or P. H. powell
You are mislead by the black legend and it shows! An historian of your talent deserve better.
Cual es el mejor país mexicano? A mi me gusta Argentina...
bro he is talking about India
@@atlistihavesenseofhumorlol2051 true but he mention "Latin America" as an example of cast system and he's done it dozens of times. We hispanics try to tell him over and over again he needs to improve his knowledge of Hispanic civilization and he just ignores us and keeps repeating black legends topics over and over again.
I'll be honest, is kind of frustrating because I love his work and I sincerely want him to be better.
@Canario_27 what is Rudyard misinformed about regarding Hispanic civilization? Genuine question, I've seen most of his Hispanic content so feel free to reference any of his past statements
@@brycebaggoo5388 I would recommend the comment section of his video on understanding Hispanic civilization. Check for the comments that reference the black legend, most of them have a nuance criticism.
His most recurrent error is to describe the XVIth century Spanish empire as an European colonial superpower of the XIXth.
The Spanish empire was a decentralise medieval monarchy, base on aristocratic rule (not based on race like a cast system), city building, rule of local laws, heavy focus on mixing with the local population and conversion to Catholicism was the main goal.
XIXth Colonialism was mainly focus on resources extraction to enrich the metropoly. No mixing with the locals, Europeans where always on a top position, almost no infrastructure beyond roads and ports to extract the resource, not messing with local religions, etc.
It's imposible to be more nuance in a TH-cam comment, if you are interested I would recommend checking the authors I quoted or searching info on the Spanish black legend to see the problem we have with our own historiography (wich by the way is our fault)
Cheers!
Tis a fine sub-continent but tis no にほんじん civilisation English...
No toilets either lmao
@@theredknight9314ur brian is a toilet thats the only thing in ur mind.
Hi 👋 to all the white nationalist from whatifalthist
Based
I'm nationalist an happen to be white... Although I suspect negative implications in your hello.
I'm nationalist and also have fair skin.
But I am an Indian nationalist.🖐🏻
@@khanshiranyor3974 sirs pls redeem we are honorary white aryns sirs
Bogus !!..
This is exactly the problem when amateurs start talking about a subject they know very little about -
The mauryans never wrote: some of the best pieces of indian writing emerged around this time, for example arthashastra by kautilya that pretty much laid the basis of indian empires for many centuries later.
There was no greek invasion of northern india right after alexander, the kushan empire did occupy parts of northern india but that was after the mauryan collapse, not before. And they too were short lived as they got beaten by the guptas shortly after.
Castes are ethnic groups : started laughing at this one😂, it is true that after the caste system solidified at around the end of the tripartite struggle at around 1000 ad, but before caste as a system was quite lose where intermarriages were really common. Even i as a bengali kayastha have had multiple ancestors from different castes wjthin the last 5 generations, brahmins, kayastha, baidya, etc.
Mauryans were a buddhist empire : i mean come on do ur research before making these claims. Ashoka the last truly great mauryan empire converted to buddhism towards the end of his conquests, the dudes before him were not.
The sati and pardah systems that u talked about where women were opressed solidified during muslim rule, it wasnt characteristic of hindu society. The sati system developed as a reaction to islamic conquests to save the women from warrior households from humiliation and it only really took place in limited places in india. Hindu texts like the kamasutra and mahabharata openly talked about female sexual health and well being. Overall clearly biased and poorly researched.
There were plenty of other facts that u got wrong, but these i can remember from the top of my head. U clearly arent in a position to make videos or claims given ur poor research. Hard to beleive in ur philosophical civilizational based claims given the hints of bias i sensed in ur video.
Your own countrymen here are saying castes are ethnic groups
Indian nationalists not contradict themselves challenge (HARD)
North and south India is vastly different history wise .
And we know how history is written by the victors and hence not all in fact.
History is written by the literate who aren't wiped out or censored
@@TheGreenKnight500 or actually give a shit about recording things down.
Not so much though
Good points all around 😅