@@K1ng1995 oh that is a great video. Jason is just really good at presentations. Ferrari finally (in 90's) sorted out their Grand Touring and Racing/Supercar stuff... engine placement and all. I wouldn't take a Testarossa for comfort... but it's an experience that I wouldn't want to not have... strange things
@@HoofHearted2DAY not always the case one of my dream cars is a mk2 ford escort and it was just as amazing to drive or better than I thought but that was on a race track and there were a lot of bad things about the car such as the car was so load you had to have headphones and was impossible to get in or out and the gearbox was a non syrnchomesh transmission which’s fine if you know the car but it was my first time driving it but I didn’t care about that I loved it anyways
@@hubertkam7647 ah yeh but you’re talking about a highly manufactured production doner car that’s been adapted to an athletic premise. I used to wash one of these Ferraris while back when I was a car washer & after having posters all over my wall as an 80s kid, it was the biggest reckoning when it came to reverse parking one & the seating position where you’re completely twisted from foot to hand 😂 The words laboured, clunky & cumbersome come to mind. Saying that it’s an absolute experience of heritage sitting in the pilot seat of one of these that can still be appreciated for exactly that.
I am a lot older, when I was 4 had two posters of this car. It was a dream.. when I turned 18 years old I was playing the lottery once a month hoping to one day purchase one.
When I was a kid I knew what car was the best ones to own. Now that I am in my mid life crisis, I still want those same cars. Ferrari F40 is on top of that list. But since I am not a millionaire, I settled for a Gen4 LS1 Trand Am. Dependability, good power, great looks, value and appreciation, driving comfort and finally........exhaust music.
Great summary of the Testarossa. It's still the car I would choose if money were no object. Regarding the engine: the Testarossa does not have a flat 12 engine (otherwise known as a "Boxer" engine). It has a 180 degree V12 engine. For it to be a true flat "Boxer" engine, each piston would need to have its own crankpin. On the Testarossa, each pair of pistons share a crankpin, making it a V12.
@@kenqv3481 Actually no, that is not correct. A flat engine is synonymous with a Boxer engine. A Boxer engine is different than a V-engine for reasons stated above.
@@charlesoxley7242 You are very confused here. A FLAT engine is absolutely NOT synonymous with a BOXER engine at all.A flat engine simply means horizontally opposed cylinders, which the TR certainly has. Maybe try Wikipedia to gain more info. Nice day
If you can drive to it's full potential it is very fast and those are called strakes on side not cheese graders. Good job well done. It 5 seconds 180mph factory spec
I want a Ferrari Testarossa but the only thing is the parts, since it’s an old model compared to the technology we have today I am worried that I won’t be able to find a specific part (if that makes any sense)
THE STEERING WHEEL IS ADJUSTABLE, HE DOESN'T GET IT DUE TO HIS YOUTH. IT IS A GT but at that time it was a super car, and it performs and handles amazing, and it's more comfortable than my Bentley
No Sam Smith?! : ( I am hoping Sam did the LFA and Ford GT coming up here. Something weird about getting advice on classic cars from a thirty year old.
When Sam started working at Road & Track, my faith in car lover humanity was restored. He's a true "next step" after Peter Egan retired (I could never say he replaced Peter). Sam is unique (and not that much older than this guy, I think). This guy is...ok, but he's Sam is one of the best automotive writers/presenters today. I definitely put Jason Cammisa up there, too.
A standard 911 Carrera from the period did 0 to 60 in under 6 seconds. A 928 automatic 5.9 to 60. A 911 turbo was quicker to 60. The BHP listed may be a bit hopeful but none of that matters
That's insanely inconvenient... Even when it's time to replace the fan belt, you're gonna have to pull down that V12 engine just to have it removed using a hydraulic lift. I think it'd be best to have it converted into a Teslarossa - a Testarossa with a Tesla electric motor.
@@Sedona_FD3S don't be rude I was replying to the owner of this channel and no one else the only Ferrari's worth buying is the earlier ones and only millionaire's could afford them , how many average people could afford one and just where could you enjoy driving a car like it to appreciate it's proformance .... No where except Nevada or the autobon ...
Did he say cam belts need maintenance every 15,000 miles or does he mean 50,000 miles? because 15,000 is a deal breaker for literally anyone, I don't care how much money they've got.
It's a wash because most of the people who actually drive these cars will take 5-ish years to cover 15,000 miles (the more hardcore "collectors" probably won't even drive them at all). They have other cars for daily use.
Honestly. This is ma fav ferarri but even if i had the money i wouldn buy it. All those potential issues sound like such a hassle and i dont think its worth it tbh
There's a lot of room if your 5'9' like the average tall woman . If your a 6'0 or better tall man a Testarossa is pretty cramped not tiny but certainly not a spacious GT car .
F1 Exhaust note ? The Ferrari 348 is the single Biggest Bang for the Buck in Ferrari and exotic sports cars. Wait till you have an electrical gremlin with the 296. In Ferrari sports cars. Jeremy Clarkson declared the 355 “the greatest car in the world, ever.” But Less is More with the completely analog 348 as it doesn’t have the brass valve guide and/or electronic suspension issues the 355 has. Older is Easier as the 348 is the best “purely analog” Ferrari ever made according to Hoovies Garage, the Smoking Tire, Jay Emm, etc as the 348 comes without modern day features that actually detract from the experience of driving a Ferrari. Why drive a “fast” car “slow” when you can drive a slower car fast? Lastly, the 348’s 8,500 rpm flat plane crank shaft generates an Formula 1 exhaust note as F1 cars also use flat plane cranks to lower their center of gravity. Every car has an exhaust note-why isn’t anyone commenting on the lack of a distinctive exhaust note on the 296?
30 year old Ferarri’s buyer’s guide: *Don’t do it.* Literally get any other Porsche, Lamborghini, McLaren, Audi, Lotus, or Acura NSX supercar instead. It is damn beautiful though. But damn that Fiat reliability.
Ok, millennial. Back up a few steps. This WAS the Ferrari supercar of the era (save the painfully rare 288 GTO). It was in no way meant as a GT. The things you mention to justify your opinion was just Ferrari struggling to become more modern, something that would be acutely necessary with the unveiling of the Acura NSX in 1990. I did enjoy the video, though.
Steering wheel is adjustable, whey am I the only one that knows this. ya it's weird compared to his rusty Honda Civic and he has no idea how quick and fast it really is. he'd scream like a little girl if he knew how to drive. It can be deadly scary, he doesn't know anything ! It's a formula super car and a GT
All the maintenance needed on these cars is one big reason why all electric vehicles are the future. The all electric Tesla roadster will be faster and cheaper to maintain. You will spend more time enjoying the car and less time complaining about the cost of repairs.
Pretty car would look good next to mk3 supra .never liked beige interior seems all the Euro cars had that ugly color .lol cool its looks lke i would have to do all the work on this think 15k timing belts now somethings wrong with that picture ..funny think got a old cressida i-6 2.8l engine with oem timing belt visible dry rot but not bad from wreckers last year 1985 hum just saying not good but engine was still in time all bearing free and smooth 180-220k miles on it by looks of things no odometer .
Cammisa, Klapmann, Walker and DTM are all making quality films for Hagerty, with Farah on the way too, but Kligerman really lets the side down, absolute clown, I don't care how well he can drive a stock car...
I often hate car reviews that don’t actually own the car. They talk out of their rear end and don’t know what they are talking about for the most part. I own one of these and most of what this guy says is bs. Not at all my experience.
@@mcmc1863 my point is one is a highly desirable sought after pinnacle of automotive art the other is a corvette , the testarossa will be blown into next week by a current hothatch , in the day it was beaten by lotus carltons to. 4 door saloons/sedans, but it doesn't matter the ferrari will always be the greater car , doesn't matter what's faster .
@@paulthomson9014 oh i see your point, i like the testarossa, its what you get for your money with corvettes, cant be beaten that package. ZR-1 is iconic also, its engine was a masterpiece of engineering, this strange car snobbery against corvettes is very...strange! Its not part of the pack to have one, so everyone joins in on this dislike for them. Probably as rare now, far more reliable though haha. My uncle still has his lotus carlton, 32k on the clock, minter!
Finally some good consumer advice for average Americans
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🤣🤣🤣 Gold star comment 😬
3 best things of this car that I like, the flat 12 engine, the vents on the doors, and just the brutal width of the rear end 👌
I never had a car like that, but I do have an aunt with brutal width of the rear end, and occasional backfiring.
I can say many bad things about it, but I still want to drive one.
You should check out Jason Cammisa video on how the Testarossa was a 23 year long mistake
@@K1ng1995 oh that is a great video. Jason is just really good at presentations. Ferrari finally (in 90's) sorted out their Grand Touring and Racing/Supercar stuff... engine placement and all. I wouldn't take a Testarossa for comfort... but it's an experience that I wouldn't want to not have... strange things
You just don’t want to park one believe me. They say never meet your heros, this is a good example 😂
@@HoofHearted2DAY not always the case one of my dream cars is a mk2 ford escort and it was just as amazing to drive or better than I thought but that was on a race track and there were a lot of bad things about the car such as the car was so load you had to have headphones and was impossible to get in or out and the gearbox was a non syrnchomesh transmission which’s fine if you know the car but it was my first time driving it but I didn’t care about that I loved it anyways
@@hubertkam7647 ah yeh but you’re talking about a highly manufactured production doner car that’s been adapted to an athletic premise. I used to wash one of these Ferraris while back when I was a car washer & after having posters all over my wall as an 80s kid, it was the biggest reckoning when it came to reverse parking one & the seating position where you’re completely twisted from foot to hand 😂
The words laboured, clunky & cumbersome come to mind. Saying that it’s an absolute experience of heritage sitting in the pilot seat of one of these that can still be appreciated for exactly that.
I am a lot older, when I was 4 had two posters of this car. It was a dream.. when I turned 18 years old I was playing the lottery once a month hoping to one day purchase one.
I know that feeling!
I had many car toy of that rossa and to me outside the F40 it was THE car if you are rich
I had a 90' in 2005 and now i have an 87', both red/tan. I'll never get rid of it, it's just too awesome.
The iconic 80's car. I could see myself driving one over long distances.
this, the countach and the esprit turbo complete my wedge dreams
Yeap -- but I need that F40 too ... then done :-)
Two happiest days of a Ferrari owner , when he buys it and when he sells it.
Just like people who buy a boat.
Haha
Best most accurate testarossa video, I own 2. This is all 100% true
When I was a kid I knew what car was the best ones to own. Now that I am in my mid life crisis, I still want those same cars. Ferrari F40 is on top of that list. But since I am not a millionaire, I settled for a Gen4 LS1 Trand Am. Dependability, good power, great looks, value and appreciation, driving comfort and finally........exhaust music.
Crazy to think that this does 0-60 in the same time my v6 mustang does
You went to Road America and didn’t get any shots of it screaming up the hill and down the front straight making sweet flat-12 music? FAIL!
Not. His. Car. Lol
Rear end design, omg. how was it have been drawn. so handsome and beautiful.
Car is like real man of all cars ever. Men st car ever :D
I bloody loved my 512 TR, was super reliable only issue was there wasn't any nose lift and I smacked it a few times which makes you wince
@Alabama Worley wanted to invest in property. Will get another one day such an under rated Rari
@Alabama Worley Amazing what spec? Love the 355 too. I hope you drove it with a stick on moustache in his honor! 😂
Well said at the end.
Think you missed showing the viewers how the car really sounds and performs. Less talk, more driving...
Indeed and more informed driving if it isn't too much to ask these days
Great summary of the Testarossa. It's still the car I would choose if money were no object.
Regarding the engine: the Testarossa does not have a flat 12 engine (otherwise known as a "Boxer" engine). It has a 180 degree V12 engine. For it to be a true flat "Boxer" engine, each piston would need to have its own crankpin. On the Testarossa, each pair of pistons share a crankpin, making it a V12.
And when a “V” engine is laid out 180 degrees, it is called “flat”.
@@kenqv3481 Actually no, that is not correct. A flat engine is synonymous with a Boxer engine. A Boxer engine is different than a V-engine for reasons stated above.
@@charlesoxley7242 Actually you are wrong .. a FLAT engine is NOT synonymous with a BOXER engine. The two have nothing to do with each other.
@@charlesoxley7242 You are very confused here. A FLAT engine is absolutely NOT synonymous with a BOXER engine at all.A flat engine simply means horizontally opposed cylinders, which the TR certainly has. Maybe try Wikipedia to gain more info. Nice day
Finally someone that understands the difference , I've given up explaining the difference to people haha 😄
If you can drive to it's full potential it is very fast and those are called strakes on side not cheese graders. Good job well done. It 5 seconds 180mph factory spec
This would be the one-in black or white-tan interior--forever cool.
struggles to meet expectations? was he alive when this car was made? In my opinion this was the most iconic car or the 80's along with the countach.
He is right. If you want a 84' Ferrari with good balance and performance, this car is the Ferrari GTO aka 288 GTO.
288 originally denoted a 2.8 litre engine with 8 cylinders.
Now it denotes the $2.88M required to buy one…
I love that's shape like surfing wave.
I want a Ferrari Testarossa but the only thing is the parts, since it’s an old model compared to the technology we have today I am worried that I won’t be able to find a specific part (if that makes any sense)
That makes perfect sense. the car hasn't been in production for almost 30 years, so of course it stands to reason that parts could be hard to come by.
Parts are available. There are a few items that are hard to get, but not too many. No comparison to a Lambo, which is much harder to find parts for.
That car screams Cocaiñe.
Lots of it.
@@blueridgegarage is there any other way? Lol
@@joshuagibson2520 lol I don't think so
THE STEERING WHEEL IS ADJUSTABLE, HE DOESN'T GET IT DUE TO HIS YOUTH. IT IS A GT but at that time it was a super car, and it performs and handles amazing, and it's more comfortable than my Bentley
I’m here because of lil Wayne and Mack mane! ❤️💪🏽
No Sam Smith?! : ( I am hoping Sam did the LFA and Ford GT coming up here. Something weird about getting advice on classic cars from a thirty year old.
When Sam started working at Road & Track, my faith in car lover humanity was restored. He's a true "next step" after Peter Egan retired (I could never say he replaced Peter). Sam is unique (and not that much older than this guy, I think). This guy is...ok, but he's Sam is one of the best automotive writers/presenters today. I definitely put Jason Cammisa up there, too.
Unfortunately I got rid of my white linen jackets and deck shoes 25 years ago so I don’t have the wardrobe for this car.
Before you find the car, find the mechanic that will fix it for you. And become that person's best friend or significant other...
A standard 911 Carrera from the period did 0 to 60 in under 6 seconds. A 928 automatic 5.9 to 60. A 911 turbo was quicker to 60. The BHP listed may be a bit hopeful but none of that matters
And the ZR-1 destroyed them in all tests! For half the price!
0-60 is meaningless. It is how you get there that counts not how quickly you get there.
@@RayMelville time is the "how you get there!
@@mcmc1863 Get a Tesla it will get you there faster than any other car
@@RayMelville not true, some yes.
1 trick pony also.
I wanted a Ferrari Testarossa when i was a kid I settled on Pontiac Fieros.
There are Testarossa body kits for the Fiero. Of course, you would then have a kit car.....
We need a modern v12 mid engine from Ferrari
I want a 1992 Blazer buyers guide please.
The series was a fun idea. But without experts to the vehicle ... eh. Misses the mark
You don't understand the 80's 😆 The TV show Miami Vice left no doubt to viewers that this was an aggressive high performance sports car.
Almost as good as a Ratarossa TH-cam vid.
Imagine a world where Ferrari sells crate engines.... 🤔.
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t. They make barbering products along with other non-car products.
Not reliable enough, to high maintainance, not very gpod for track work, most have very little torque
"The red matches the leaves"
*cut to a bunch of yellow leaves.
A 911 is very open & roomy, are you saying thats not a sports car as well, I hoped you let Porsche know.
Thanks, now I know everything I have to. XD
My grandfather has this car.
Thanks God, they changed the presentor for Buyers guides! The voice of that gentleman just prevents from watching (((
best supercar gt ever made
That's insanely inconvenient... Even when it's time to replace the fan belt, you're gonna have to pull down that V12 engine just to have it removed using a hydraulic lift. I think it'd be best to have it converted into a Teslarossa - a Testarossa with a Tesla electric motor.
Yeah like how many viewers you have able or going to buy a car like this ???
For a Ferrari, it's on the cheaper end.
Everyone except you, my dude.
@@Sedona_FD3S don't be rude I was replying to the owner of this channel and no one else the only Ferrari's worth buying is the earlier ones and only millionaire's could afford them , how many average people could afford one and just where could you enjoy driving a car like it to appreciate it's proformance .... No where except Nevada or the autobon ...
@@tomrobards7753 🤡
Super sports car.
If you were a business man on coke in the 80s you had a testarossa.
If coke and nightclubs were your business - you had countach.
If I could realistically own one Ferrari, this would be it.
7:59 Me watching this in my late 20's 🥸
Great content ... but .. am I the only one to miss the guide to Ali Babas cave . 'Open Sesame' 😯⚡
8:05 you are older than me. If an older buyer holds this too long, will another younger generation want it?
And the estimated prices of parts and fixes are......?
at 1:59 it really looks like he's driving a bus! ;)
Did he say cam belts need maintenance every 15,000 miles or does he mean 50,000 miles? because 15,000 is a deal breaker for literally anyone, I don't care how much money they've got.
It's a wash because most of the people who actually drive these cars will take 5-ish years to cover 15,000 miles (the more hardcore "collectors" probably won't even drive them at all). They have other cars for daily use.
You can easily spend more maintaining and repairing that car than what you pay for one to begin with.
Absolutely.
Honestly. This is ma fav ferarri but even if i had the money i wouldn buy it. All those potential issues sound like such a hassle and i dont think its worth it tbh
Yeah but 2007 Honda Accord tho
I see you are a person of refined tastes 👍
What a car...
There's a lot of room if your 5'9' like the average tall woman . If your a 6'0 or better tall man a Testarossa is pretty cramped not tiny but certainly not a spacious GT car .
Just talking about looks, i prefer the 348
The original NFS SE was the best driving physics ever. Let's argue.
The King of Cocain cars of the 80’s
F1 Exhaust note ? The Ferrari 348 is the single Biggest Bang for the Buck in Ferrari and exotic sports cars. Wait till you have an electrical gremlin with the 296. In Ferrari sports cars. Jeremy Clarkson declared the 355 “the greatest car in the world, ever.” But Less is More with the completely analog 348 as it doesn’t have the brass valve guide and/or electronic suspension issues the 355 has. Older is Easier as the 348 is the best “purely analog” Ferrari ever made according to Hoovies Garage, the Smoking Tire, Jay Emm, etc as the 348 comes without modern day features that actually detract from the experience of driving a Ferrari. Why drive a “fast” car “slow” when you can drive a slower car fast? Lastly, the 348’s 8,500 rpm flat plane crank shaft generates an Formula 1 exhaust note as F1 cars also use flat plane cranks to lower their center of gravity. Every car has an exhaust note-why isn’t anyone commenting on the lack of a distinctive exhaust note on the 296?
Must be nice to drive one!
testarosssa was created from discarded countach competition
can you carry enough luggae for a long trip ? my better have doesnt belive in over night bags she has luggage (-:
Road America. Your list of To Do's might of been quicker if you would have said what it won't require...
Ferrari I can afford.... maybe an MR2 with a body kit?
Thay non airbag steering wheel is awesome. Elegant. Don't hear a hillbilly use that word everyday ya know.
Yeah, like as if we're ever going to be able to find one, let alone afford one
Когда-то Американцы, стояли за ней в очереди!
Mhm
Yessssssss !! 👌🏻
30 year old Ferarri’s buyer’s guide: *Don’t do it.* Literally get any other Porsche, Lamborghini, McLaren, Audi, Lotus, or Acura NSX supercar instead.
It is damn beautiful though. But damn that Fiat reliability.
ferrari are rubbish ,dont drive well xpensive to service cant use allthe power anyway a tossers car
Ferrari oh yeah 🏁🚥🚦🇧🇷
Would be nice if you said pininfarina design this Ferrari. Ferrari engineer it but pininfarina design it.
Ok, millennial. Back up a few steps. This WAS the Ferrari supercar of the era (save the painfully rare 288 GTO). It was in no way meant as a GT. The things you mention to justify your opinion was just Ferrari struggling to become more modern, something that would be acutely necessary with the unveiling of the Acura NSX in 1990. I did enjoy the video, though.
Remember the Schedoni luggage you could order with the car? That’s evidence it was intended as a GT.
American talking about "fast" & "quick" going 75 mp/h Topspeed on the interstate next to a GMC Truck. *LOL*
coolest car ever?
Here's advice, don't get the Testarossa, and save up for the 512 tr. Way more modern feel for same looks.
its perfection
Wrong host. Bring back Sam Smith.
took him 5min to start with an actual buyers guide..
Parts for all of these Ferrari's are very scarce. I have 2 Ferrari's, and it's a pain to find part's. Tip for the day, buy a new Ferrari.
Nah , new ferraris look horrid . They've lost the ferrari magic
I’d rather have a Porsche 959 which set benchmark for super cars for 2decades. Not that Mickey Mouse Honda Civic speed.
I'd like to race you in a F40
I'd watch that race.
@@joshuagibson2520 lol that race would be epic.
@@blueridgegarage I'm pulling for the F40. I've lusted over that car since about 1990.
@@joshuagibson2520 same here... I like the recipe. RWD and mid engine, along with ultra light weight everything.
Steering wheel is adjustable, whey am I the only one that knows this. ya it's weird compared to his rusty Honda Civic and he has no idea how quick and fast it really is. he'd scream like a little girl if he knew how to drive. It can be deadly scary, he doesn't know anything ! It's a formula super car and a GT
"mis-thought out" hmmm
5 seconds 0-60 180 mph factory specs. Not hard to handle for a man
He keeps talking talking talking and his voice is higher than the Ferrari
All the maintenance needed on these cars is one big reason why all electric vehicles are the future.
The all electric Tesla roadster will be faster and cheaper to maintain. You will spend more time enjoying the car and less time complaining about the cost of repairs.
Your statement proves that you don't know anything about felling that you have "the car you want".
🤡
The V12 in the TR is excellent. The electrics let it down. Let's see how well the electrics fare in an electric car in 30 years.
But you still are driving a soulless, piece of junk Tesla in the end
It's not your Prius like you are used too. I own 2, 1 red, 1 grey
Pretty car would look good next to mk3 supra .never liked beige interior seems all the Euro cars had that ugly color .lol cool its looks lke i would have to do all the work on this think 15k timing belts now somethings wrong with that picture ..funny think got a old cressida i-6 2.8l engine with oem timing belt visible dry rot but not bad from wreckers last year 1985 hum just saying not good but engine was still in time all bearing free and smooth 180-220k miles on it by looks of things no odometer .
Better than green, red, or blue anyday. (Think 70s and 80s cars)
Some beige interior with white exterior looks like pee in the snow.
@@joshuagibson2520 yep got a 280zx red inside
GM was notorious for white paint and red interior. I never liked it. Black, tan, and grey are what my eye prefers for interior.
@@joshuagibson2520 same here all but tan off white etc black and grey is all i like well plaid is neat
Skip the music and i wont dislike in future
Cammisa, Klapmann, Walker and DTM are all making quality films for Hagerty, with Farah on the way too, but Kligerman really lets the side down, absolute clown, I don't care how well he can drive a stock car...
"and you do NOT have to take the engine out"
WHAT?! A Ferrari service without engine-out?!
Cheetah gta vice city,San andreas
Wooow 😍
I often hate car reviews that don’t actually own the car. They talk out of their rear end and don’t know what they are talking about for the most part. I own one of these and most of what this guy says is bs. Not at all my experience.
It's a Testa.......rosssser not a Testa row sar!
Corvette zr-1 destroyed it in every aspect
But it's a corvette .
@@paulthomson9014 your point is?
@@mcmc1863 my point is one is a highly desirable sought after pinnacle of automotive art the other is a corvette , the testarossa will be blown into next week by a current hothatch , in the day it was beaten by lotus carltons to. 4 door saloons/sedans, but it doesn't matter the ferrari will always be the greater car , doesn't matter what's faster .
@@paulthomson9014 oh i see your point, i like the testarossa, its what you get for your money with corvettes, cant be beaten that package.
ZR-1 is iconic also, its engine was a masterpiece of engineering, this strange car snobbery against corvettes is very...strange! Its not part of the pack to have one, so everyone joins in on this dislike for them.
Probably as rare now, far more reliable though haha.
My uncle still has his lotus carlton, 32k on the clock, minter!
@@mcmc1863 have a soft spot for lotus carltons , always be the ultimate super saloon
Don’t do it! Whole engine comes out to change timing belt. $10000 job
Contemporary 911 all day long.