Jack always comes across as a honest chap, not full of himself spouting I've got this for so much like the ones across the pond. Keep the great videos coming, and don't change one bit.
Did 127,000 miles in a 1984 QV GTS. Never let me down once and was the most reliable car I have ever owned. Cheap to insure as a classic car, cheap to tax, most parts cheaper than any modern car and 24mpg.
If you want to see more detail on rebuilding a 308, check out Lou Trottier's channel. He is a pro mechanic rebuilding a 308 gts and is completely refurbishing the brakes, suspension, steering, etc. Good stuff.
The guy who down ticked this video must have a low miles car he wants to sell. 😹 What possible other reason could there be to dislike this excellent video? 🤷♂️
Most practical, well organized and truthful car buying review I've ever seen (and I've seen many, many). SO honest and thoughtful without the distracting hype and exaggeration. WELL DONE!
Thank you for the review. This is in my opinion one of the most if not THE most useful one for the 308 on TH-cam. Keep doing this format, it really helps people who are interested in this model.
I've been watching your videos since the beginning having always been in love with this car. I bought a UK registered RHD 1985 308 GTS QV a week ago and to be honest, it cost me considerably more than the average price they go for. But... it has had one owner for the last 20 years, has done less than 40,000 miles and also has a folder full of receipts and invoices showing more than £42,000 spent in the time he owned it - never mind the previous owners expenditure. All the big jobs done, belts last year and a recent major service so the car is absolutely mint and for now, runs like a dream. I spent the money I did on the 308 because two years ago I made the mistake of buying a "cheap" 1998 F355 GTS (which I still have) and as you've said many times... there's no such thing as a cheap Ferrari. The F355 has to date cost me over 20k to put right - never mind the many sleepless nights, headaches and daily homicidal thoughts. Aside from a few small niggles, it too is now almost mint and if I sold it, I could probably make a very small profit. I now know the car inside & out like the back of my hand...but was it worth all the stress? I don't know yet... but in hindsight if I'd known in advance all the trouble I was gonna have, I'd have probably not bought it. Anyhoo, another great and honest video. Keep em coming :)
Jack, ALL the 308GTB's had dry sump engines. The GTS's were wet sump. I don't know whether the later variants, QV's, 328's etc were similarly different. I owned a '78 GTB in 1986 which I loved. While I admire your DIY prowess, I wouldn't have attempted the repairs to the engine as you have. I left that to my specialist.
Another great video Jack! BTW: The reason why the older Ferrari models are supposed expensive to maintain is based on the Ferrari Factory Workshop's manual of time. It was very generous to ensure.
Absolutely brilliant video. I'm definitely never, ever, ever buying one of these now. I'll stick to my Italian racing karts and the memories of Tom Selleck in the 1980s.
Great real world summary. I think that most people that would buy an older Ferrari are like you and plan on working on it themselves, or can afford to pay someone else to do it. Keep it for the weekends and drive the Lotus to the grocery store!
Nice video. Most of these reviews and buyers guides are fraught with errors but this one is quite good. Excellent information all around and a good start for someone looking to learn more or get into a 308. Well done.
Good evening Jack if I didn’t follow the channel and stumbled across this episode by chance, I would have to congratulate you wholeheartedly on a job very well done indeed 🚒👍
“If you’re here you’re obviously considering buying a 308” Not really, I am here because the child in me refuses to give up the dream of owning a ferrari 308 and watching this video keeps him busy for a bit
In 1984? Ferrari improved the rustproofing. They started to use galvanised steel (electroplated on one side of the panels) and electrophoretic painting process. I have a 328, doesn’t get driven much. Change belts every 7 years. Service every second or third year. 😃
Jack, thanks for your honest perspective on the 308 series. Great Italian pronunciation. Also, regarding the A/C, that's a non-negotiable living in California and I heard there are A/C compressor upgrades available. Cheers!:)
Thanks for the very comprehensive guide. The suspension on this car is rather trick for an entry level model, I had no idea it was double wishbone all around, rather impressive.
Not the first to say it, however ....You have a wonderful 'middle England' gentlemanly and clearly 100% natural presentation style that would certainly allow you to take it up semi-professionally :) - Schmee, Jayemm or Jack? - Reverse order? :) You certainly belong together with the GTS and share some of Magnum's smoothness of movement :) I confess your channel is one of the ones I most look forward to for latest releases (mainly for the GTS, which we can all agree, is stunning - a similar sized stylish affordable 2 seater with this level of character is what we need right now (I guess thats why I fell for the Griff :) Maybe you should do a monthly Classic road-test review? - I know you would / will do well :) - Just see you road reviewing a Countach :)
When I was looking to buy my first Ferrari, I actually made the trip from Belgium to the UK to look at a LHD 308 GTS in just the spec I wanted. Could have saved me the trip if I had sat in one beforehand because it turned out that I’m just too tall to fit in it. So indeed, very good that you mentioned that. Maybe it will spare other people from that same disappointment. It sounds like you might be hanging on to the Influenzo 😉
@@Lee_Pitcher And his head was still sticking out in the opening scene ;-). No worries, I bought a 348 and two 355s instead. But the design of the 308 is so beautiful that it does still pull at my heart strings.
@@wimdepril6920 Ha. This is true. Not so much of a problem in Hawaii but quite a problem in the UK with our fabulous summer weather (not). Two 355's ?? That's just greedy ! I'm a bit of a short arse so the 308 wasn't a problem for me and the roof was off all the time anyway. A Merak SS is a cool car. I think most Italian stuff is designed for the smaller person
@Wim de pril I will be checking out a GTB next Monday. Would you mind sharing your height in the forum? I am 198cm but very slim and sporty and I fit well in my Dino 308 GT4 (with the same steering wheel extention mentioned in the vid) and my GT40 (slightly modified the seat in this wonderful car by CAV) but I am really worried about how I will fit in the GTB ... thx
Loved it. Clear, concise, accurate...and filled with the beautiful sound the of engine. Your car looks lovely...washed, happy, stunning to watch on the road. Everything you say about buying a well-used higher mileage one is true. When I bought mine, a 1980 GTSi, it had 88k miles on it. It was a joy to own and use as a daily driver. If you ever let this one go, you know it will be impossible to replace considering all the heart and soul you've put into it. You can get another car, but you'll never know it and own it the same way as this one.
Hey Jack, hi from Australia, a great assesment, like many Faz enthusiasts I'd love to own a 308, I agree one of the best looking machines ever made. And even here in Aus, who needs a/c, I took it out of my old E type the first week I owned it, these older cars are a "special" experience, "cool" by nature.
Fantastic video!!! This car to me is the most beautiful designed car ever done! It is timeless, the older it gets the better looking it gets. Truly an amazing design!! 🙌🏻❤️ I wish I had bought one when I had a chance 5 years ago, today I think they are out of my price range. Specially since I would drive it every damn day!! I currently own a red Porsche Cayman GTS…….it’s an incredible car, truly an engineering marble!! I thought it was the best looking car until one day a red 308 parked next to my car……..I could not take my eyes off of it!! 🙌🏻👍🏻
Thanks Jack great video, hope you are not tempted to sell as you will find it hard to replace with anything as prestigious and immediately recognisable, and perhaps you may look back and regret doing so. If you do, hope your next 'challenge' is as enjoyable as the 308 videos, they are fantastic cars.
Brilliant video Jack, better than anything on TV, always loved these cars, since watching Magnum P.I as a kid in the 80's, the comment about taller drivers i heard that Tom Selleck couldn't drive the GTS with the roof on as he was too tall.
All good info. My 3.2 Mondial, which is mechanically very similar to the 308/328, has been anvil reliable, and easy and satisfying to work on. Its not quite as pretty as a 308, but it actually handles a bit better, and the soft top factor is another huge plus, at least for this owner. This whole mid to late 80's vintage of Ferrari V8s are incredible machines that a decent DIY mechanic can live with without fearing bankruptcy.
As usual, an excellent summary, both helpful and practical for a potential buyer . On the engine, you forgot to mention the crank .There is bearing that goes near the crank pulley , one of the few weaknesses on the V8
In 1997, I organised and attended the Spa Francorchamps Ferrari Days weekend in my Fiat Dino Coupe together with some 308s. One of the 308s had this very problem which looked at 1st to be leaking crankshaft oil seal. Despite obtaining one from one of the racing teams and helped by a local Fiat dealer to fit it , it manifested itself to be more serious. Good job I had 4 seats to get them home ! The full repair was done by a Ferrari specialist in the UK. I have seen 308's advertised for sale with this problem , just a simple fix Guv! Yeah right!
I still want the 911 993 Targa that I couldn’t convince my wife to buy back when they were somewhat reasonably priced. And now that my back has been fused in 3 separate places I can’t physically afford one. So PLEASE consider finding one so I can live vicariously through your videos!
Hi Jack, I know this is contrary to your final advice, but you have put me off ever owning my favourite ever car. I will just enjoy it (and despair) through your experience.
Sounds superb now Ian tyrell has worked his magic on those carbs and the exhaust. Just wondered what your thoughts are on the new lotus? Your lotus evora was a beautiful car👍🏻
I'm only here because I happen to enjoy your content. Buying a 308 just ain't gonna happen..... Unless someone tells me what the next winning lotto numbers are - in which case...... 🤣😁
Jack, you forgot to mention that there was an Italy only version of this car called the 208 GTB/GTS which had a V8 with the displacement reduced to 2.0 litres. This was because until about 15 years ago, the VAT on cars sold in Italy doubled from 19% to 38% for petrol engines over 2.0 litres and for diesel engines over 2.5 litres.
Absolutely love the way this car looks & sounds, beautiful car. However, I wouldn’t want one as they require too much attention for me. But I do love them though.
Have you ever checked out Matt Farah’s video with Donnie going over his 308. Very interesting and does stress about how maintenance is key and engines are solid on these. He goes through and addresses all known weak points ahead of handing the car over to Matt so he can then enjoy it without being caught out by neglect of key components.
You really need to stop doing this! So far your videos has started to convince me that I can maintain a Ferrari myself. Now you are persuading me that not only can I afford one, but its the sensible thing to do! Now I just have to convince the bank as well.... :D Keep up the good work! I am absolutely loving these videos! :D
“The rareiest variant” 2:07 surely you mean the RARRIest variant Jack!? I just love it as well when you drop into that legit accent when pronouncing Italian words. How do 328 prices compare against 308 prices right now with the market being all crazy?
My all-time favorite car growing up! Body style is sexiest designs ever created. I guess the high maintenance is part of its charm- if they were reliable it wouldn’t be the same mystique
Summary - Expensive, fragile, noisy, & you cant have the roof off in Britain more than 5 times a year, they will steal your money, then your heart, then your soul = Buy One! Translation - 'I don't want to go through this owner pain alone' - Jack Number 27 😂 Great vid again Jack, it looks fantastic & what a journey you've had with it. Wishing you more happy & high revving miles!
Some great insights Jack - thanks. They would be my pick of the Ferraris but I am a fair bit taller than you (long legs too) and although I do fit, I find it hard work depressing the clutch without the leverage of a fairly straight leg.
Well, maybe I should have watched this BEFORE I bought a 308 today. 1985 GTS Quattrovalvole. Can't wait to get it into my hands! Hopefully it's... better than yours... lol.
Great video as always although I'm not sure I agree with you about driving on the twisties, I've had a LOT of fun on small back roads over the years. 😄
Good advice Jack regarding buy the best one you can however I`m disappointed that you didn`t include the GT4 Dino in your report. They are superior in handling, faster in the engine department and more exclusive having been made in much smaller numbers.They are also perplexingly a bit cheaper. I`ve experienced both versions of the 308 (GTB}and prefer the GT4. I`m an ex rugby player well over six foot and accomodation in the GT4 is better also if you are tall and bigger framed like me. Re reliability of the carb versions carburettors once set up correctly are as reliable and remain in tune as much as FI. Our GT4 is twin distributored (4 sets of points) and even this despite being the most likely item to go out of adjustment have remained as adjusted. The cars are as reliable as any Porsche I`ve owned but like any old car how they`ve been treated and serviced is hugely important. Cam seals by the way can be done merely by removing the cambelts and cam pulleys so not a big item. Essentially they are a high tech/old tech robust car quite easily and cheaply maintained.
I also really like a GT4 but this was a GTB/ GTS guide. Also the GT4 may have handled better but it certainly wasn’t any faster! Thanks for watching dude!
@@TheNobleLoyalist not yet. i found it but did not pull the trigger on the purchase yet. i want to, but it's going to be such a nightmare to manage/ fix/ find the parts/ etc. plus it's almost impossible to re-sell... anyways that was my head speaking. my heart will force me to buy it at some point in time
@@rogerkastoun3143 I understand completely. I had a 89 Esprit in my 20s. Im 41 now and have been itching to buy another late 4cyl Esprit, 88 to 95 but. But my God within the last 3 years prices for the Esprit have literally doubled. Used to be you could buy a sorted SE for mid 20s, now they are double that and who knows the condition. Part of me wants to get an 88 or 89 that needs TLC and make it a project and one to hold onto until im old and half dead. Other half of me wants to splurge on a S4 or S4S or MAYBE if the right one came along at the right price an early V8, but im worried about resale value. Ill be the one to pay a hefty premium just because i want it and wont deny myself, but then ill also be the one to lose 25-30% when selling because I dont have the patience to sit on it or deal with the nitpicker buyers.
Good summary, and I'm sure you've spotted it should be Dino 206GT for that picture. The gt4 sold in relatively lower numbers not just because it was a styling departure but also because it was launched into the middle of the 73-74 oil crisis. In fact it sold nearly as many as the 246 Dinos. The carb 308s were quoted at 250bhp but dyno tests suggest these Italian marketing horsepower actually equate to around 235 English bhp. With the 308i and the QV the power quoted actually was now accurate so the QV does show a slight real world improvement over the first cars. The fuel injection on the 'i' models was aimed primarily at reducing emissions, hence the smaller output. You're dead right about the rust potential around the bottom of the car, but the wheel arches are single skin on all 4 corners and not protected by the plastic bits, which are there just to isolate the tanks, engine and rear wing areas from spray. Mud can stay in those lips and start corrosion. Check round the windscreen frame as well. Moisture can also accumulate in the felt pads on which the tanks sit and eventually perforate their aluminium skins. Fortunately they're easy to get out. The 'gearbox shaft' is the actuator rod from the gear lever, not a drive shaft as some may think from the description. The carburation and ignition systems are really like having 2 old Morris Minors tied together, it's that level of technology. So yes they are easily cared for with DIY. The steering isn't powered, so cheaper and easier to maintain. The aircon is badged Borletti but the key bits were made by York in the USA and fitted to hundreds of thousands of cars. If set up correctly it is actually very effective, although it may still need re-gassing every 9 months. After it was fixed, mine was producing air at 3C. Your replacement fusebox is awesome. The original is notorious for overheating and corroding contacts. Beware non-OEM stereos or alarms; someone may have done horrible things to the wiring and/or over-burdened circuits. The TRX wheels and tyres were only fitted to some 308is and QVs. Earlier cars had normal 14" wheels, and it is also hard to get 150+mph-rated tyres for those. Pattern 16" standard type wheels are a good upgrade for all 308s. The OEM Ate brakes are poor, but an upgrade to EBC pads makes a major difference. I'd add that it's a good idea to use Shell V-Power or something similar with good cleaning additives. These engines were built to '70s tolerances and oil will get into the combustion process. A good petrol will help keep the rings and valves/guides in good condition. Good summary of the driving experience. The parking brake shouldn't drag, but it is pathetic. The 'Motor' road test of the gt4 which has the same system measured it at less than 0.25g, which would not pass the MOT, when new! If you're not an experienced Ferrari driver watch out for the dogleg first gear v reverse, but everything is set up for heeling-and-toeing. Enjoy!
I don’t know if it would fit and I’m in no way trying to deride your lovely Ferrari in anyway Jack but I was trying to work out whereabouts I’ve seen that handbrake handle before and I’m most probably wrong but it looks like a chrome version of a Lada Riva item so if it ever snaps it’s worth looking to see if one of those fits or it might be a Fiat part. The problem is I’ve now admitted I once owned a Lada when I was skint lol
Disappointed in you Jack, you got the wheel sizeswrong! Vetroresina and carb cars had "14 inch wheels with Michelin XWX non-Metric tyres (factory option was "16 wheels with Pirelli P7's) 2v injected were "15.5 Metric with Michelin TRX tyres and QV's were either 15.5 TRX or "16 Wheels, depending on which Market? Aftermarket replicas are all "16 wheels.
Just stay away from the GTS (flexy, heavy, not as beautiful), if you can get a carbed GTB with dry sump fit 16" wheels and redo all the suspension bushing in polyurethane you'll have a fantastic handling car. For a cheap "power boost" fit a Gr.4 drop gear kit (much shorter ratios than standard) and you can get interesting acceleration figures too.
there was a special model for the italian market it was introduced for fiscal reasons. the body of the 308. but the engine was only 2 l capacity v8 without turbo charger. called the 208 GTB/GTS with a monstrous 150 hp. these are very rare ! and a bit cheaper to buy but prices have risen a lot the last years
I was thinking about buying a 1985 308. Yay or nay? I like the way it looks and I thought that no worries better. What should I expect to pay in American dollars and what Year do you think is best? Looking for drivability, fun and performance, not status.Ty.
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You are a natural at this TH-cam game Jack………. Honestly bud cracking channel and always really entertaining 👍
As always way too kind Ryan !
Agree totally!
Yes I am with you all the way on that one ☝️.
Jack always comes across as a honest chap, not full of himself spouting I've got this for so much like the ones across the pond. Keep the great videos coming, and don't change one bit.
Thanks Paul 🙏
Did 127,000 miles in a 1984 QV GTS. Never let me down once and was the most reliable car I have ever owned. Cheap to insure as a classic car, cheap to tax, most parts cheaper than any modern car and 24mpg.
If you want to see more detail on rebuilding a 308, check out Lou Trottier's channel. He is a pro mechanic rebuilding a 308 gts and is completely refurbishing the brakes, suspension, steering, etc. Good stuff.
Hey yes I know Lou, thanks!
The guy who down ticked this video must have a low miles car he wants to sell. 😹 What possible other reason could there be to dislike this excellent video? 🤷♂️
Ha!! Thanks buddy!! Glad you enjoyed it
Jealousy... the world is filled with trash who hate anothers joy, success or even their happiness.
Most practical, well organized and truthful car buying review I've ever seen (and I've seen many, many). SO honest and thoughtful without the distracting hype and exaggeration. WELL DONE!
Ha thanks Rick!
Excellent video I own a 1977 308gtb and have done for thirty years. Your assessment is spot on .
Very well structured and presented, with some advice that’s actually based on experience. Thank you.
Thank you for the review. This is in my opinion one of the most if not THE most useful one for the 308 on TH-cam. Keep doing this format, it really helps people who are interested in this model.
Thank you Christopher!
Jack is epic, Jack is great, watch him talk up his Ferrari 308! Love it!!
I've been watching your videos since the beginning having always been in love with this car. I bought a UK registered RHD 1985 308 GTS QV a week ago and to be honest, it cost me considerably more than the average price they go for. But... it has had one owner for the last 20 years, has done less than 40,000 miles and also has a folder full of receipts and invoices showing more than £42,000 spent in the time he owned it - never mind the previous owners expenditure. All the big jobs done, belts last year and a recent major service so the car is absolutely mint and for now, runs like a dream. I spent the money I did on the 308 because two years ago I made the mistake of buying a "cheap" 1998 F355 GTS (which I still have) and as you've said many times... there's no such thing as a cheap Ferrari. The F355 has to date cost me over 20k to put right - never mind the many sleepless nights, headaches and daily homicidal thoughts. Aside from a few small niggles, it too is now almost mint and if I sold it, I could probably make a very small profit. I now know the car inside & out like the back of my hand...but was it worth all the stress? I don't know yet... but in hindsight if I'd known in advance all the trouble I was gonna have, I'd have probably not bought it.
Anyhoo, another great and honest video. Keep em coming :)
Thank you buddy and enjoy your QV!!
Jack: "If you're watching this your likely in the market."
Me: "Actually, just like watching the videos."
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Or want an honest appraisal of why I don't want to own one!
@@judih.8754 So problematic.
I definitely don't expect to ever own a Ferrari but still like the videos.
@@graham6229 Says who ? You ever owned one in your life ? C'mon, tell us about your "sad" experience !
Jack, ALL the 308GTB's had dry sump engines. The GTS's were wet sump. I don't know whether the later variants, QV's, 328's etc were similarly different. I owned a '78 GTB in 1986 which I loved. While I admire your DIY prowess, I wouldn't have attempted the repairs to the engine as you have. I left that to my specialist.
One of the best looking Ferraris ever.
Another great video Jack! BTW: The reason why the older Ferrari models are supposed expensive to maintain is based on the Ferrari Factory Workshop's manual of time. It was very generous to ensure.
Absolutely brilliant video. I'm definitely never, ever, ever buying one of these now. I'll stick to my Italian racing karts and the memories of Tom Selleck in the 1980s.
Exactly, I keep watching these 308 vids to remind me NEVER to buy one.
Another cracking video Jack, really informative and your style of presenting with a smile on your face is infectious - Well done buddy!
Great video, whilst I am not in the market, I have thoroughly enjoyed all of these videos......and that sound!
Great real world summary. I think that most people that would buy an older Ferrari are like you and plan on working on it themselves, or can afford to pay someone else to do it. Keep it for the weekends and drive the Lotus to the grocery store!
You are the definition of hands on experience ! 👍
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😀 I'm not here as I want to buy one, I'm here because I love Jack!
Very sweet of you Gena! You must be slightly mad.
Make that very mad
I love Jack more!!! 🥰🥰🥰
My dream car ever since Magnum P.I.
I Have really enjoyed watching your Journey with this car . Great to see it running great now 👍🇳🇿
Thank you so much for taking the time , and giving all of us an idea of what it takes to own one of the most iconic sports cars ever made.
Pleasure and thanks for watching!!
Brilliant episode Jack… one of your best!
Very kind, thanks Paul!
Nice video. Most of these reviews and buyers guides are fraught with errors but this one is quite good. Excellent information all around and a good start for someone looking to learn more or get into a 308. Well done.
Thanks!!
Thanks Jack, perfect. Everything you need to know in 23 mins. Can you do one for the Elise.
Will def do that at some point!
To quote Ferris Bueller: "If you have the means, I definitely recommend picking one up," 👍
This is one of my favorite 80's movies along with Top Gun. Cheers!:)
I measured the garage the other night to see if I’d get one of these in it, unfortunately it will fit! A ‘project’ 328 beckons. 🤣👍
That lift off splutter from the drive by shots 🤤! Seems to be all perfect now ! Keep it ! It’s been a great story to follow and it does look gorgeous.
My 328 splutters away when I lift off. Don't know if it should or not.
You simply cannot beat the advice based on experience!! Excellent video!!
Thanks Kev!!
Jack, I think you are spot on with this video. I’ve owned a QV for 14 years and I agree 100% with you.
This and the 288 GTO / 328 are still the most beautiful Ferraris
Absolutely love the 288, brute of a car, like a 308 on Steroids.
influEnzo is looking stunning mate!
Thank you for all those moments shared! Your videos are pleasant and instructive, your enjoyment enthusiasm and kindness are a much welcome quality
Good evening Jack if I didn’t follow the channel and stumbled across this episode by chance, I would have to congratulate you wholeheartedly on a job very well done indeed 🚒👍
Very kind, thank you for watching buddy!!
this is the best fiero conversion i have seen. thank you for sharing it with us.
It’s uncannily good 😄😄😄
“If you’re here you’re obviously considering buying a 308”
Not really, I am here because the child in me refuses to give up the dream of owning a ferrari 308 and watching this video keeps him busy for a bit
In 1984? Ferrari improved the rustproofing. They started to use galvanised steel (electroplated on one side of the panels) and electrophoretic painting process.
I have a 328, doesn’t get driven much. Change belts every 7 years. Service every second or third year. 😃
Very true, had read that but forgot to mention!! Thank you!
Jack, thanks for your honest perspective on the 308 series. Great Italian pronunciation. Also, regarding the A/C, that's a non-negotiable living in California and I heard there are A/C compressor upgrades available. Cheers!:)
Thanks Nathan and I guess I can see living in the US you’d definitely want AC! Thanks for watching!
Very well done and quite complete as I can relate having owned a carburetor version myself. Everything you say is the truth and very practical, bravo!
Nice video Jack. The Influenzo is looking and sounding amazing :)
Thanks for the very comprehensive guide. The suspension on this car is rather trick for an entry level model, I had no idea it was double wishbone all around, rather impressive.
I thought the same!!
As a kid I used to watch Magnum PI just to watch 308 wheel spinning away off the grass verge onto the road…beautifully designed car
Not the first to say it, however ....You have a wonderful 'middle England' gentlemanly and clearly 100% natural presentation style that would certainly allow you to take it up semi-professionally :) - Schmee, Jayemm or Jack? - Reverse order? :)
You certainly belong together with the GTS and share some of Magnum's smoothness of movement :)
I confess your channel is one of the ones I most look forward to for latest releases (mainly for the GTS, which we can all agree, is stunning - a similar sized stylish affordable 2 seater with this level of character is what we need right now (I guess thats why I fell for the Griff :)
Maybe you should do a monthly Classic road-test review? - I know you would / will do well :) - Just see you road reviewing a Countach :)
When I was looking to buy my first Ferrari, I actually made the trip from Belgium to the UK to look at a LHD 308 GTS in just the spec I wanted. Could have saved me the trip if I had sat in one beforehand because it turned out that I’m just too tall to fit in it. So indeed, very good that you mentioned that. Maybe it will spare other people from that same disappointment. It sounds like you might be hanging on to the Influenzo 😉
Thanks Wim, it’s a shame but I think that the seats can be modified and lowered if you really have to have one!!
Tom Selleck had to have his seat modified when he did Magnum apparently - so it is possible
@@Lee_Pitcher And his head was still sticking out in the opening scene ;-). No worries, I bought a 348 and two 355s instead. But the design of the 308 is so beautiful that it does still pull at my heart strings.
@@wimdepril6920 Ha. This is true. Not so much of a problem in Hawaii but quite a problem in the UK with our fabulous summer weather (not). Two 355's ?? That's just greedy ! I'm a bit of a short arse so the 308 wasn't a problem for me and the roof was off all the time anyway. A Merak SS is a cool car. I think most Italian stuff is designed for the smaller person
@Wim de pril I will be checking out a GTB next Monday. Would you mind sharing your height in the forum? I am 198cm but very slim and sporty and I fit well in my Dino 308 GT4 (with the same steering wheel extention mentioned in the vid) and my GT40 (slightly modified the seat in this wonderful car by CAV) but I am really worried about how I will fit in the GTB ... thx
I owned one for the last 11 years and it was very reliable.
I'm in my 3rd year of an '82 and it's been as reliable as my Honda, but wayyyy more fun.
Loved it. Clear, concise, accurate...and filled with the beautiful sound the of engine. Your car looks lovely...washed, happy, stunning to watch on the road. Everything you say about buying a well-used higher mileage one is true. When I bought mine, a 1980 GTSi, it had 88k miles on it. It was a joy to own and use as a daily driver. If you ever let this one go, you know it will be impossible to replace considering all the heart and soul you've put into it. You can get another car, but you'll never know it and own it the same way as this one.
Brutalising, thanks Hohn and enjoy your GTSi!!
Hey Jack, hi from Australia, a great assesment, like many Faz enthusiasts I'd love to own a 308, I agree one of the best looking machines ever made. And even here in Aus, who needs a/c, I took it out of my old E type the first week I owned it, these older cars are a "special" experience, "cool" by nature.
Lucky and dedicated man with great automotive tastes ! Cheers mate !
Big wave to Australia 🇦🇺 mate, love it over there. Special place
I love these videos! Great channel, Jack!
Fantastic video!!!
This car to me is the most beautiful designed car ever done! It is timeless, the older it gets the better looking it gets. Truly an amazing design!! 🙌🏻❤️
I wish I had bought one when I had a chance 5 years ago, today I think they are out of my price range. Specially since I would drive it every damn day!!
I currently own a red Porsche Cayman GTS…….it’s an incredible car, truly an engineering marble!! I thought it was the best looking car until one day a red 308 parked next to my car……..I could not take my eyes off of it!! 🙌🏻👍🏻
308s are very pretty.. but your cayman is a more fun drive.. albeit totally different experience
Thanks Jack great video, hope you are not tempted to sell as you will find it hard to replace with anything as prestigious and immediately recognisable, and perhaps you may look back and regret doing so. If you do, hope your next 'challenge' is as enjoyable as the 308 videos, they are fantastic cars.
It’s staying for the foreseeable!!
Brilliant video Jack, better than anything on TV, always loved these cars, since watching Magnum P.I as a kid in the 80's, the comment about taller drivers i heard that Tom Selleck couldn't drive the GTS with the roof on as he was too tall.
That’s right! That’s why they had the GTS!!
great review! I have enjoyed many of your episodes! I love my gtb dry sump from 77! The 308 is beautiful and easy to work at!
All good info. My 3.2 Mondial, which is mechanically very similar to the 308/328, has been anvil reliable, and easy and satisfying to work on. Its not quite as pretty as a 308, but it actually handles a bit better, and the soft top factor is another huge plus, at least for this owner. This whole mid to late 80's vintage of Ferrari V8s are incredible machines that a decent DIY mechanic can live with without fearing bankruptcy.
Interesting on handling.. what was changed to the 328? Thought chassis was pretty much the same?
@@Number27 Wheelbase on Mondial is slightly larger, which rumor has it allows for better handling.
This was great Jack, really informative and entertaining! :) 👍
As usual, an excellent summary, both helpful and practical for a potential buyer . On the engine, you forgot to mention the crank .There is bearing that goes near the crank pulley , one of the few weaknesses on the V8
Not aware of this Martin…?
In 1997, I organised and attended the Spa Francorchamps Ferrari Days weekend in my Fiat Dino Coupe together with some 308s. One of the 308s had this very problem which looked at 1st to be leaking crankshaft oil seal. Despite obtaining one from one of the racing teams and helped by a local Fiat dealer to fit it , it manifested itself to be more serious. Good job I had 4 seats to get them home ! The full repair was done by a Ferrari specialist in the UK. I have seen 308's advertised for sale with this problem , just a simple fix Guv! Yeah right!
Absolutely love it Jack, and sounds awesome. This one’s a keeper. Cheers from aus
I still want the 911 993 Targa that I couldn’t convince my wife to buy back when they were somewhat reasonably priced. And now that my back has been fused in 3 separate places I can’t physically afford one. So PLEASE consider finding one so I can live vicariously through your videos!
So sorry to hear about your back. I have suffered from back issues since my teens too.. not as bad as you but I know how debilitating it is!
Great video Jack. One of the best overviews of the 308 I have seen. I have an 83 GTS QV and you summed it up perfectly.
Hi Jack, I know this is contrary to your final advice, but you have put me off ever owning my favourite ever car. I will just enjoy it (and despair) through your experience.
Thats a shame Chris.. id go for it if it’s your dream. They’re no more expansive to run than an old 911!
What a brilliant video and what a beautiful car !
Excellent and informative presentation Jack!
Excellent job on this video. Love the 308!
Sounds superb now Ian tyrell has worked his magic on those carbs and the exhaust. Just wondered what your thoughts are on the new lotus? Your lotus evora was a beautiful car👍🏻
I'm only here because I happen to enjoy your content. Buying a 308 just ain't gonna happen.....
Unless someone tells me what the next winning lotto numbers are - in which case...... 🤣😁
Thank you so much for watching Graham !!
Superb video. Yours is looking well. Ultimately these are old cars. There is always going to be something.
I love your honesty about the parking brake jack 🤣👍
Jack, you forgot to mention that there was an Italy only version of this car called the 208 GTB/GTS which had a V8 with the displacement reduced to 2.0 litres. This was because until about 15 years ago, the VAT on cars sold in Italy doubled from 19% to 38% for petrol engines over 2.0 litres and for diesel engines over 2.5 litres.
6:56 made me chuckle. "These extenders..." with a well timed 'pop'. :)
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Absolutely love the way this car looks & sounds, beautiful car. However, I wouldn’t want one as they require too much attention for me. But I do love them though.
Have you ever checked out Matt Farah’s video with Donnie going over his 308. Very interesting and does stress about how maintenance is key and engines are solid on these. He goes through and addresses all known weak points ahead of handing the car over to Matt so he can then enjoy it without being caught out by neglect of key components.
You really need to stop doing this! So far your videos has started to convince me that I can maintain a Ferrari myself. Now you are persuading me that not only can I afford one, but its the sensible thing to do!
Now I just have to convince the bank as well.... :D
Keep up the good work! I am absolutely loving these videos! :D
Thank you Kenneth! And definitely go for it.. just make sure you get a good one!
“The rareiest variant” 2:07 surely you mean the RARRIest variant Jack!? I just love it as well when you drop into that legit accent when pronouncing Italian words. How do 328 prices compare against 308 prices right now with the market being all crazy?
Interesting guide, whatever problems you have or challenges it still a stunningly beautiful car from any angle
Thanks fella!!
@6.57 love that pop
My all-time favorite car growing up! Body style is sexiest designs ever created. I guess the high maintenance is part of its charm- if they were reliable it wouldn’t be the same mystique
Great review Jack - very informative :-)
Summary - Expensive, fragile, noisy, & you cant have the roof off in Britain more than 5 times a year, they will steal your money, then your heart, then your soul = Buy One!
Translation - 'I don't want to go through this owner pain alone' - Jack Number 27 😂
Great vid again Jack, it looks fantastic & what a journey you've had with it. Wishing you more happy & high revving miles!
Thanks buddy!!
Some great insights Jack - thanks. They would be my pick of the Ferraris but I am a fair bit taller than you (long legs too) and although I do fit, I find it hard work depressing the clutch without the leverage of a fairly straight leg.
Well, maybe I should have watched this BEFORE I bought a 308 today. 1985 GTS Quattrovalvole. Can't wait to get it into my hands! Hopefully it's... better than yours... lol.
WOW!! That’s amazing buddy, send me a pic on Instagram messenger. So exciting!!
Sold!!!! When can I pick her up ? 🤣🤣 Brilliant as always 👍
I called dibs! lol
Yeah!!! Jack loves his prancing horse and we love all that.
car looking super clean mate
Great video as always although I'm not sure I agree with you about driving on the twisties, I've had a LOT of fun on small back roads over the years. 😄
Gotta admit,the title made me chuckle...
Great vid - very informative and a great, honest channel.
Just one thing - are your indicators broken? 😉
Brilliant video. Although somehow it was like watching England because nothing went terribly wrong. Happy days.
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Good advice Jack regarding buy the best one you can however I`m disappointed that you didn`t include the GT4 Dino in your report. They are superior in handling, faster in the engine department and more exclusive having been made in much smaller numbers.They are also perplexingly a bit cheaper. I`ve experienced both versions of the 308 (GTB}and prefer the GT4. I`m an ex rugby player well over six foot and accomodation in the GT4 is better also if you are tall and bigger framed like me. Re reliability of the carb versions carburettors once set up correctly are as reliable and remain in tune as much as FI. Our GT4 is twin distributored (4 sets of points) and even this despite being the most likely item to go out of adjustment have remained as adjusted. The cars are as reliable as any Porsche I`ve owned but like any old car how they`ve been treated and serviced is hugely important. Cam seals by the way can be done merely by removing the cambelts and cam pulleys so not a big item. Essentially they are a high tech/old tech robust car quite easily and cheaply maintained.
I also really like a GT4 but this was a GTB/ GTS guide. Also the GT4 may have handled better but it certainly wasn’t any faster! Thanks for watching dude!
Very instructive thanks! Looking for a 328 GTS and absolutely terrified about what to expect and the surprises i will get
Just saw your comment and was wondering if you did end up buying the 328 and how has it been so far?
@@TheNobleLoyalist not yet. i found it but did not pull the trigger on the purchase yet. i want to, but it's going to be such a nightmare to manage/ fix/ find the parts/ etc. plus it's almost impossible to re-sell... anyways that was my head speaking. my heart will force me to buy it at some point in time
@@rogerkastoun3143 I understand completely. I had a 89 Esprit in my 20s. Im 41 now and have been itching to buy another late 4cyl Esprit, 88 to 95 but. But my God within the last 3 years prices for the Esprit have literally doubled. Used to be you could buy a sorted SE for mid 20s, now they are double that and who knows the condition.
Part of me wants to get an 88 or 89 that needs TLC and make it a project and one to hold onto until im old and half dead. Other half of me wants to splurge on a S4 or S4S or MAYBE if the right one came along at the right price an early V8, but im worried about resale value. Ill be the one to pay a hefty premium just because i want it and wont deny myself, but then ill also be the one to lose 25-30% when selling because I dont have the patience to sit on it or deal with the nitpicker buyers.
6:57 Very satisfying ‘pop’
Good summary, and I'm sure you've spotted it should be Dino 206GT for that picture.
The gt4 sold in relatively lower numbers not just because it was a styling departure but also because it was launched into the middle of the 73-74 oil crisis. In fact it sold nearly as many as the 246 Dinos.
The carb 308s were quoted at 250bhp but dyno tests suggest these Italian marketing horsepower actually equate to around 235 English bhp. With the 308i and the QV the power quoted actually was now accurate so the QV does show a slight real world improvement over the first cars. The fuel injection on the 'i' models was aimed primarily at reducing emissions, hence the smaller output.
You're dead right about the rust potential around the bottom of the car, but the wheel arches are single skin on all 4 corners and not protected by the plastic bits, which are there just to isolate the tanks, engine and rear wing areas from spray. Mud can stay in those lips and start corrosion.
Check round the windscreen frame as well.
Moisture can also accumulate in the felt pads on which the tanks sit and eventually perforate their aluminium skins. Fortunately they're easy to get out.
The 'gearbox shaft' is the actuator rod from the gear lever, not a drive shaft as some may think from the description.
The carburation and ignition systems are really like having 2 old Morris Minors tied together, it's that level of technology. So yes they are easily cared for with DIY.
The steering isn't powered, so cheaper and easier to maintain.
The aircon is badged Borletti but the key bits were made by York in the USA and fitted to hundreds of thousands of cars. If set up correctly it is actually very effective, although it may still need re-gassing every 9 months. After it was fixed, mine was producing air at 3C.
Your replacement fusebox is awesome. The original is notorious for overheating and corroding contacts. Beware non-OEM stereos or alarms; someone may have done horrible things to the wiring and/or over-burdened circuits.
The TRX wheels and tyres were only fitted to some 308is and QVs. Earlier cars had normal 14" wheels, and it is also hard to get 150+mph-rated tyres for those. Pattern 16" standard type wheels are a good upgrade for all 308s.
The OEM Ate brakes are poor, but an upgrade to EBC pads makes a major difference.
I'd add that it's a good idea to use Shell V-Power or something similar with good cleaning additives. These engines were built to '70s tolerances and oil will get into the combustion process. A good petrol will help keep the rings and valves/guides in good condition.
Good summary of the driving experience. The parking brake shouldn't drag, but it is pathetic. The 'Motor' road test of the gt4 which has the same system measured it at less than 0.25g, which would not pass the MOT, when new! If you're not an experienced Ferrari driver watch out for the dogleg first gear v reverse, but everything is set up for heeling-and-toeing. Enjoy!
Thanks for the informative post and for watching!!
Thank you very much for all the essential info.👍
I don’t know if it would fit and I’m in no way trying to deride your lovely Ferrari in anyway Jack but I was trying to work out whereabouts I’ve seen that handbrake handle before and I’m most probably wrong but it looks like a chrome version of a Lada Riva item so if it ever snaps it’s worth looking to see if one of those fits or it might be a Fiat part.
The problem is I’ve now admitted I once owned a Lada when I was skint lol
The Lada Riva is pretty much a re-badged Fiat 124 so...
Yes quite possible!!!
Disappointed in you Jack, you got the wheel sizeswrong! Vetroresina and carb cars had "14 inch wheels with Michelin XWX non-Metric tyres (factory option was "16 wheels with Pirelli P7's) 2v injected were "15.5 Metric with Michelin TRX tyres and QV's were either 15.5 TRX or "16 Wheels, depending on which Market? Aftermarket replicas are all "16 wheels.
Just stay away from the GTS (flexy, heavy, not as beautiful), if you can get a carbed GTB with dry sump fit 16" wheels and redo all the suspension bushing in polyurethane you'll have a fantastic handling car. For a cheap "power boost" fit a Gr.4 drop gear kit (much shorter ratios than standard) and you can get interesting acceleration figures too.
there was a special model for the italian market it was introduced for fiscal reasons. the body of the 308. but the engine was only 2 l capacity v8 without turbo charger. called the 208 GTB/GTS with a monstrous 150 hp. these are very rare ! and a bit cheaper to buy but prices have risen a lot the last years
Again another excellant video...
I was thinking about buying a 1985 308. Yay or nay? I like the way it looks and I thought that no worries better. What should I expect to pay in American dollars and what Year do you think is best? Looking for drivability, fun and performance, not status.Ty.