Max and Mike made such a good team. I know later there were other pairings and new cast members but to me, that first season with the originals -- Max and Mike, Ben Stone, Paul Robinette, Cragan and Schiff --- was really something.
Apparently George Dzundza and Chris Noth hated each other, and pretty much everyone hated Dzundza, who was supposedly very arrogant and mean to everyone. Sorvino, on the other hand, was perceived as arrogant, but not mean-just kinda full of himself. Orbach was apparently loved by all, and so he stuck around for as long as he could.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar I heard Chris Noth was also arrogant and difficult as well. I suppose like the typical workplace, there is always personality clashes and power struggles. Why should anyone expect that it would be any different in a tv or movie set? As a viewer of the show, all these behind the scenes are “extras” and doesn’t really diminish my enjoyment of the show. What we saw that first season of the show was pretty amazing television.
@@chaisepomme4070 He was, particularly toward the end of his run, and we’ve since come to learn some very unpleasant stuff about him. Noth and Michael Moriarty (another guy who apparently wasn’t easy to work with) also couldn’t stand each other. And none of this should diminish anyone’s enjoyment of the series; I was just speaking to Dzundza’s departure. As you said, workplaces are complicated places, with different personalities, and one-hour dramas are real bears when it comes to production. As Bradley Whitford of _The West Wing_ once said, “You get _Das Boot_ close.” You’re in a foxhole, and sometimes the worst of you comes out.
I sympathize with detective Mike and I understand his loss, but one of the important rules of law enforcement is to not let your emotions cloud your judgment.
A great actor and a great cook. Paulie did the prep work. He had this wonderful system for doing the garlic. He used a razor, and he used to slice it so thin that he used to liquefy in the pan with just a little oil. It was a very good system.
On April 6, 1991, Detective Max Greevey was shot to death outside of his home by Daniel Magadan, Jr., who wanted to silence his grand jury testimony on construction industry corruption. His wife Marie witnessed the shooting from her home's window while on the phone to Mike Logan.
Love how he says, “I’m just gonna ask ya one more time, Danny Boy…”, and then lets the sound of the hammer being cocked in Danny’s ear do the asking for him.
He actually approached someone else like that in Criminal Intent episode "Renewal'" sixteen years later, believing the man responsible for a (different) love interest's death. (I sm one of those fans who believes the therapist here was his girlfriend for a while afterwards The "Helpless" and "Betrayal" episodes all but say she was.)
Pleasant surprise seeing Mr Kruger (of Kruger Industrial Smoothing) and “Crazy” Joe Davola from Seinfeld in this episode! L&O and Seinfeld… some of my 90s favourites!😂
U know, there were many cases like this in other series, where a cop/detective had to deal with his partner being killed, some were before his own eyes. And man, some were brutal. They pressured or tortured the suspect even when the suspect was already given up. Comparing to those, what Logan did here actually was not the worst.
As nice as this is, tied up in a neat bow as they like to do, the grieving process (and all its stages) are not linear and do not always follow the textbook examples or stay in order. Next month will be 8 years since I lost my mom, and although I feel like I've achieved acceptance, it's still cyclical. My grief never really ends. The experience is unique for everyone.
Everytime they get a great Actor they can’t afford to keep, they always kill them off making it difficult to appear in other episodes. Kinda like a bad reference from a previous employer.
The guy who plays Mike's killer is a terrible actor. When he tells ADA Brooks about Logan pulling a gun on him and motions with his fingers to his head the sequence of events, he draws his fingers to the wrong side of his face. If someone pulls a gun on you and you're rightly so terrified that you remember the "click, click" sound in your ear, then you're also going to remember what side of your head the gun was placed.
That’s so dumb. 1) that’s not how memory works, you are full of misconceptions about human memory and trauma And 2) it’s a show, the actors’ job is to get visual info to the viewer in a way that looks nice and is easily understandable, not to be accurate to real life (which again, that’s not how memories work!)
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Max and Mike made such a good team. I know later there were other pairings and new cast members but to me, that first season with the originals -- Max and Mike, Ben Stone, Paul Robinette, Cragan and Schiff --- was really something.
agreed
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Apparently George Dzundza and Chris Noth hated each other, and pretty much everyone hated Dzundza, who was supposedly very arrogant and mean to everyone. Sorvino, on the other hand, was perceived as arrogant, but not mean-just kinda full of himself. Orbach was apparently loved by all, and so he stuck around for as long as he could.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar I heard Chris Noth was also arrogant and difficult as well. I suppose like the typical workplace, there is always personality clashes and power struggles. Why should anyone expect that it would be any different in a tv or movie set? As a viewer of the show, all these behind the scenes are “extras” and doesn’t really diminish my enjoyment of the show. What we saw that first season of the show was pretty amazing television.
@@chaisepomme4070 He was, particularly toward the end of his run, and we’ve since come to learn some very unpleasant stuff about him. Noth and Michael Moriarty (another guy who apparently wasn’t easy to work with) also couldn’t stand each other. And none of this should diminish anyone’s enjoyment of the series; I was just speaking to Dzundza’s departure. As you said, workplaces are complicated places, with different personalities, and one-hour dramas are real bears when it comes to production. As Bradley Whitford of _The West Wing_ once said, “You get _Das Boot_ close.” You’re in a foxhole, and sometimes the worst of you comes out.
I sympathize with detective Mike and I understand his loss, but one of the important rules of law enforcement is to not let your emotions cloud your judgment.
apparently cops in America aren't taught that rule
He did control his emotions, otherwise the guy would have been dead...
This detective is so hot my tongue is so hard
@@Deborahtunes "Officer committing felony assault and menacing" = "Controlling his emotions"
My my, don't you have a low bar.
agreed
So miss old school Law and Order
I miss Paul Sorvino. It's funny to see a mobster actor play a cop.
Same thing Michael Imperioli as Detective Falco
Was he " connected " or was he just playing mobsters?
A great actor and a great cook. Paulie did the prep work. He had this wonderful system for doing the garlic. He used a razor, and he used to slice it so thin that he used to liquefy in the pan with just a little oil. It was a very good system.
Cop and mobster aren’t too far apart. A cop has to think like a mobster to know what’s gonna happen next.
Watch Sorvino in Repo The Genetic Opera
RIP Paul Sorvino. Loved him.
One of the best episodes ever of the original L&O!
"I doubt Sargent Creevy would have considered it a technicality" - The line is missing but boy is it a gut punch to Mike
Olivet, as one of the recurring characters, was one of my favorites.
Max Greevey, Mike Logan, Don Cragen, Ben Stone, Paul Robinette, and Adam Schiff are the original OGs of the original L&O❗️❗️
Very much agreed!❤💯
5:19 - Logan never asked if the guy killed a "fat cop", he said partner. So how would he know Logan's partner was "fat"? 🤔
it is quite a common slur for a cop, along with "pig'
@@essiewoo But he wouldn't know a detail like that unless he actually profiled the cop to kill him
Jeez if this happened to Briscoe the whole NYPD will stop and hunt for the murderer. Greevey was one of the good ones, he and Logan were unstoppable.
so sad what to Logan he just goes through so much one of if not the most tortured characters in the series
Svu tortured character is olivia benson
@@kristopherneville6922 she’s just a drama queen
On April 6, 1991, Detective Max Greevey was shot to death outside of his home by Daniel Magadan, Jr., who wanted to silence his grand jury testimony on construction industry corruption. His wife Marie witnessed the shooting from her home's window while on the phone to Mike Logan.
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Love how he says, “I’m just gonna ask ya one more time, Danny Boy…”, and then lets the sound of the hammer being cocked in Danny’s ear do the asking for him.
He actually approached someone else like that in Criminal Intent episode "Renewal'" sixteen years later, believing the man responsible for a (different) love interest's death. (I sm one of those fans who believes the therapist here was his girlfriend for a while afterwards The "Helpless" and "Betrayal" episodes all but say she was.)
Chris Noth was underrated....
Not by me.
Pleasant surprise seeing Mr Kruger (of Kruger Industrial Smoothing) and “Crazy” Joe Davola from Seinfeld in this episode!
L&O and Seinfeld… some of my 90s favourites!😂
So strange seeing Cragen without Benson lol
Back before he was in charge of SVU
Crazy Joe devola and George’s boss! A Seinfeld reunion 😂
I was hoping to see this comment
Logan has that 10K yard stare that lets Olivet know the state he’s in ~ deep,deep denial
It was a hard cap for Logan, it was to hard to swallow his partner's death
U know, there were many cases like this in other series, where a cop/detective had to deal with his partner being killed, some were before his own eyes. And man, some were brutal. They pressured or tortured the suspect even when the suspect was already given up. Comparing to those, what Logan did here actually was not the worst.
My God! It’s Minuet as a psychotherapist!!! Who knew that the NYPD had that kind of holographic technology back then!!!
I like Ms. McCormack better as Dr. Olivet than Minuet Riker.
He should have gotten the death penalty, and carried out within months, not decades later...
New York doesn't have the death penalty.
@@MJBTH-camNetwork ~ Yes, during the time this aired it didn't. That doesn't mean he still shouldn't have gotten the death penalty though...
As nice as this is, tied up in a neat bow as they like to do, the grieving process (and all its stages) are not linear and do not always follow the textbook examples or stay in order. Next month will be 8 years since I lost my mom, and although I feel like I've achieved acceptance, it's still cyclical. My grief never really ends. The experience is unique for everyone.
Giraffe Demonstrates Stages of Grief / Response to change
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@@SmokeyMcb Was that Robot Chicken? Lol Sounded like Seth Green. That was hilarious, thanks I needed that
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You are very welcome.
The real deal is Chris Noth.
I understand why Carrie was obsessed with him, he's hot
Carrie wasn't particular. Wanted 💰🤑 sleesy
Carrie was for the streets@@aprilcraddock169
Mr.Kruger from Seinfeld...of course the defendant was going to lose the case!
Dangggg! That’s the judge that found his biological son and spoke to him in poetry!
1:59 It's Crazy Joe Davola!
Playing this character Noth really showed his acting abilities.
I did not like him in City.
That guy was just so casual about police brutality happening to him.
I'm okay with it.
Everytime they get a great Actor they can’t afford to keep, they always kill them off making it difficult to appear in other episodes. Kinda like a bad reference from a previous employer.
Psychologist 💓 is stunning!
Wait, they are only five stages of grief not seven 1)denial, 2)anger, 3(bargaining, 4)depression and 5)acceptance🤔🤔
Yea. Seems like 7
This is why emotional basket cases should not be allowed to serve on active duty.
We can usually accept the death of someone we love or care about. But it's incredibly hard to accept untimely or _wrongful_ death.
Kruger!
Briscoe & Logan!
Ayo, I feel for the detective.
0:13 Marie? MARIE! MARIE!!!
Question is that Dr.Burke ?
Crazy joe devola!
That psyco analyst is really creepy.
I thought there were five stages of grief what are the other two.
It’s just five. Not sure why she said seven
Shock denial.2.pain,guilt.3anger,bargaining.4.Depression.5Upward turn.6reconstruction,working through.7acceptance,Hope.Kubler Ross model,states five
Depends on model used,to describe stages,and can be different for sudden unexpected death.
The guy who plays Mike's killer is a terrible actor. When he tells ADA Brooks about Logan pulling a gun on him and motions with his fingers to his head the sequence of events, he draws his fingers to the wrong side of his face. If someone pulls a gun on you and you're rightly so terrified that you remember the "click, click" sound in your ear, then you're also going to remember what side of your head the gun was placed.
maybe the interrogation scene was shot before the arrest scene. in any case, it's the script supervisor's job to keep these details in line.
That’s so dumb. 1) that’s not how memory works, you are full of misconceptions about human memory and trauma And 2) it’s a show, the actors’ job is to get visual info to the viewer in a way that looks nice and is easily understandable, not to be accurate to real life (which again, that’s not how memories work!)
Bad confession.
hell
misery
asthma inhaler
woe is me
I have asthma too.
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Logan should never have admitted it. This character deserved the worst.