Stop Wasting Money With Manure | Farming Simulator 22
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.พ. 2023
- In this video I show you why you should stop using manure as fertilizer in Farming Simulator 22.
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I love using manure just for realistic purposes, not that I wanna make money out of it, I will continue using that as an option
I'm the exact same way lol
on my start from scratch i use just slurry and manure, only buy fertilize for contracts.
@@cristianoforever yes thats very rewarding from the missions
Same here plus i got over 1,5 million of manure from my 250 cows. I wont even try to sell that amount. I also play on hard and have builded everything from scratch.
@@MeaneR_ Hard difficulty is the way to go , otherwise is just pointless getting lots of money for small work .
I like these charts you make , comparing products, prices and all that. It's called effort and I appreciate it.
Same
Giants needs to fix the mechanic for manure, manure goes a lot farther in real life than it does in game. I grew up on a dairy farm
trueeeee
It was good in older titles I believe or atleast in mobile releases
You grew up on manure 😂
Hard mode the manure is around $35, so about $900/30kl truck. Also you can only unload 50kl at the BGA, then wait for it to process - on the map I'm playing the BGA is clear across the map, so it's kind of easier to just dump it in the fields right by the cow shed!!
Best tip: if going to use slurry/manure/digeste ALWAYS FILL IT UP YOURSELF then hire a worker to draw it out of your fill points then you can clean up their mess
What did you mean ??
@@stratosstavrosverivakis8879 you can set up the worker to use manure or slurry from your cows or pigs (where you set up if the helper buys or not there should be the options for your barns too if you own them), so it uses the stored units and dosnt buy it from the market. as far as i know it dosnt work for digeste from your bga (still hoping for a mod to add that or im to stupid to work out how to set it up)
Best tip: get a bio gas plant, use manure/slurry in it and then fertilize with the digestate biproduct. You make money and still get free fertilizer. :)
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@@farmingfan6399 Thats very unrealistic
Pretty cool video, very interesting. I always figured it was better to use the manure than sell it, other than the time hauling back-forth
One advantage I’ve found for manure is when I want to put down 2 fertilizer applications. After harvesting poplar or sugarcane I’ll first spray liquid, then immediately follow with my manure spreader. Job complete, just wait for the next harvest.
Thanks for the data sir! Confirms my gut, plus with the modded solid fertilizer spreaders they use less and spread 42m (82)
Well done Driver & thanks for doing this comparison video. Cheers
Nice video. I feel like the over spray added to the realism of the test!
I'm curious how the numbers may vary when you preform these same tests under the conditions of the Precision Farming DLC. With the alternative (more realistic) fertilizing system, specifically the automatic application rate, I wonder if the values of using the different fertilizer types would change significantly. Worth investigating perhaps.
My first farm on 22, I'm all organic (sans/grape fert) for the fun/realism and I thought I was saving money. So thanks for this, I knew I wasn't saving time that's for sure. I wonder does the outcome change with precision farming? I doubt it would. Biggest problem wth slurry is equipment costs, most affordable option I've used is the incredibly versatile Lizard bale trailer slurry spreader customization. Problem with that is field reloading with my tanker crashes the game everytime.
Nice video ! Thanks for sharing❤ this is what i wanted to know
I’ve experienced issues where fields never show fully fertilized (dark blue) until digestate is applied. Thanks for your continued testing Driver!
You need to wait the plants to grow onde stage before the second aplication or you can use a diferente fertilizer
the cheapest way is manure and liquid slurry because this is free from your cows....you have not to buy that....also is better not used that 2 different fertilizer,,,that is very bad for your crops...you most know that...that is also in reality...regards from dutchfarmer and driver 1956..
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No but really, it's not"free" when it's lost profit. If you can sell the manure and slurry you would have used on the field for $5000 and then used that money to buy the solid fertilizer for $2000, you've lost $3000 by using the manure and slurry.
Well the manure isn't free. You have to give straw.
Liquid may seem faster since it has a wider working width than solid, but if you are working on a large field, you're gonna run out of liquid fertilizer, in fact you were already halfway empty on that small field. On larger fields, the solid fertilizer spreader with is going to be the faster option.
Also liquid is harder to drive if you have trees around or if you use autodrive/ worker
I don't get why he made this statement. Solid spreaders have a wider working width at 42m while liquid sprayers only go to about 33m (there may be one that is 36.6m). But even in the video he got more of the field done is less passes with the solid spreader.
And the working speed is 11mph with solid spreader vs only 7mph with the liquid sprayer. So solid is much faster.
Huh? Solid has a wider working wodth
Nice video. Still pretty new to FS22 and haven't gotten onto animals yet, but now I know not to waste time and effort with manure on fields!
Same. My partner, our friend and I started playing last week, my partner and I have been doing research and it's pretty much all we've be talking about. I want to start horse stables and this is really good to know.
Depends on the difficulty. If you're on normal or hard then you wouldn't be making much money selling it to BGA anyway. May aswel just dump it all in some field
I use manure and slurry on the BGA, and I use digestate and solid for the fields, with silage from corn the BGA makes a ton of money.
Never really used manure before always solid fert. Now with all these new things want to try.
Would be great and cool if you could adjust planter and seeder width only if
On some modded maps, Calmsden farm for instance, the price of manure and slurry is decreased to make it more worthwhile.
I honestly never understood selling manure or slurry unless you're near the limit at the wrong time or really really need digestane
I came to the exact same conclusion. And you can make even more money buying a BGA and get digestate is a byproduct :) Until then, I just sell my smelly stuff and use solid fertilizer. It is so much more time efficient too. Nice that this got confirmed.
hte kubota mod spreader is just awesome for that... The Kubota mod is just huge. the 2 spreaders(liquid/solid/fastbailer/header). A must and not that expensive + you can customize colors( Big fan of John Deere here. Everything is green and yellow)
It's profitable by itself, but then if you run it through a modular BGA, you can make way more profit.
Great videos as always. Do you make more money if you turn manure onto solid fert?
I just made a map. Put some solos that turn straw into manure. With that and manure from cows going to use in flower greenhouse
Maybe open air garden if i get.
I like sending manure and slurry to the bga and then take the digestate and send it to a dryer to make my own fertilizer that way two byproducts are making me lots of money all through that process!
i usaly dump the slurry and manure into the bga, if i own it i can use the digeste and still get some money from the bga. or sell the digestate too as liquid or sold fertalizer work faster for me
I am using a cheap mod pasture with capacity for 25 cows with auto water of €35.000.
It allows to feed grass,hay or mixed ration.
I will fill a loader with hay bales wich are easy for me to get and i can feed bales with a forklift.
I will buy 2 small milk cows and wait for reproduction.
Older animals will produce more so really don't need to bother with mixed ration and i don't know if this pasture can produce manure but this video proves i don't need that.
I also saw a tip to put the baby cows in another barn so the milk goes for reproduction instead of them.😂
Thanks for the tips.
If you use your slurry for a BGA (Biogas facility in english?) which produces digestate as a final by-product, you make a lot more off of it AND you get free fertilizer.
Oh. Interesting. I’ve wondered this. Coupled with the fact that solid fert spreaders are among the cheapest of the equipment showed in this video. Hm. Guess I will sell mine instead. ( and I just bought a slurry sprayer too)
With my cow farm and pig farm i dont pay that fertiliser. I also play with precision farming i dont need to put 2 layer of fertiliser. Only one needed i put it before seeding and if i know my crop need i can prevent fertiliser over-application.
I think this is only viable on easy mode. It's not worth it in hard mode but some good advice. 👌
Thanks for this, ill defo be doing that sell the muck and make 2.4k profit makes sense .
I mean, for purely gamer purposes or when you're broke, sure
but I like, for realism RP purposes, going BIO and besides you're giving your fields the more valuable care, like sure, in-game it makes zero difference, but there has to be some basis behind the price difference
Good test, but manure & slurry work great for precision farming
What I was wondering today as I debated selling my manure was how much straw does it take to produce 1,000L of manure?
So, solid fertilizier is ~60 times mores effective than digestate. If i need 10000l of solid fertilizer, i’ll pay 40k (hard economy). If i will use my digestate, i will need 600 000 liters. If i can sell 117-147$ per 1k, i can earn 72k (considering bad price 120$ per 1000l). So yes, definitely more sense is in selling all digestate, and fertilizing with solid. Also less working amhours
Could you make a future tutorial video about course play? I used it on FS19 but I never used it on FS22, so I’d like to learn a bit more about it before I use it, especially how it helps with multiple workers on a field which you can’t really do with the ingame AI
There are a number of creators that have tutorials on Course play. Driver focuses mostly on videos that can apply to both PC and console, and course play isn't on console.
@@Deathstrike613 I see I was just wondering since he mentioned in his map video that he wants to have irregular shaped fields because he wants to test out course play, so I figured why not ask if he can show it to us viewers aswell
Don't forget the cost of the equipment needed for each of these.
So one thing I'm curious about is would it be more cost effective (disregarding the initial investment to get a BGA bought or set up) to process the manure/slurry into digestate for fertilizing, since some of the manure/slurry gets converted into and sold as energy? Or would it still be better to sell the stuff and just use solid fertilizer?
you want money in the game >>>>>>>>>BGA = money
i start to make money to setup my farm then i would use the digestate to make fertilizer
you have to buy diestate? i thought the bio plant produced it from your input items?
You was killing me with your pronunciation of manure. 😊 question: Does only one of them level out your nitrogen level quicker? Is everything at the same rate?
Great test Driver ... questions: is double application, double the material? Digestate not a byproduct as well? Finally would be interested to the time referred to video as to each material used. Thanks Driver still learning.
Its not double the material, you Just drive half as fast and get 2 fettelizer stages. So if single stage goes 16kph, you go 8 kph for 2 stages. It is double the material since you are twice as Long out on the field, but the tank empties at the same rate
*Cries in Precision Farming*
I haven't tried using manure or slurry yet, but don't they apply both fertilizer states in one pass? Perhaps that does use twice as much though so wouldn't change the cost ratio. Or, if it doesn't cost double then you'd have to account for that when compared with two applications of the other types of fertilizers.
There is a setting you can change to apply two stages at once.
Uses more and goes slower when apply double application
Well I'm glad we got the Mm shit sorted 😏😂
I only use manure on fs19 on switch because you can't sell it. It's annoying having to fill all the time. But its free
If you then ad in the price of the straw to get the manure, its surely the most expensive fertilizer
Point of slurry or manure is to reduce the amount of liquid or dry fertilizer you're putting into the ground.
Do this with precision farming dlc
My cows have'nt started pooping money yet, how do you do that? Besides to earn money you need to spend some, right?
Or just get missybs slurry sell point and sell it all. Digestate for over 1000 for 1000 ltrs. Kinda makes it too easy though 😂😂
It would have been nice to know if it was worth owning the Biogas plant and making money from the electricity etc, then using the digestate
Pretty sure the point of those fertilisers is that they are organic. So in a more realistic scenario, you would be able to sell versions of all crops as organic crops, which would sell at a higher premium. So that would justify the use of more expensive organic fertiliser. Without the ability to sell organic crops, organic fertiliser won't be able to compete, that's logical.
Prices are on EASY, selling Manure on Easy is good profit, od Medium also good(low) profit. On HARD its ALMOST better to use it on field, am i right? prices are ALMOST equal.
Price of Manure on Medium Diff: 31(thousend liters) x 66(price per 1000) = 2046 Euro to Manure this field
Price of Manure on Hard Diff: 31 (thousend liters) x 37 (price per 1000) = 1147 Euro to Manure this field
They should make it more balance, anyway i will still use Manure, its fun :D
Not a player of the game so please forgive me if this is a silly question, but does each fertilizer type boost the crop yields by the same amount?
In the base game there are two fertilizer stages. Each type of fertilizer completes one stage when applied. It gets more complicated with a mod call Precision Farming.
well in real world farmers dont sell manure so its "free" byproduct , if you can sell both straw and manure then you will always end up with money that you are throwing away in game but you can also look at it that way that you are just green farmer if you use manure on your field as your animals are grass feed so your farm is environmentally friendly
The biogas facility inflates the value of slurry/manure considerably. Bear in mind these values are "seller" values... If you operate a biogas plant, slurry/manure value runs up to $550/KL. I pay my friends in our multiplayer game $150/KL to sell me their manure/slurry because I make so much off the power they generate. Biogas also generates some digestate as an otherwise useless byproduct. In reality, I could sell digestate at less than half the cost you mention and still make more off it than selling from BGA to world as disposal. The only real problem is I don't produce enough of it for my friends to use digestate as their fertilizer, I'd need several BGA plants running nonstop.
But what is the profit fromt he different groth of the plants get out of it? Is there any extra money to be made from harvest by using different types? If so, how much extra?
The yield of the crops is not different per each type of fertilizer. Only the amount of fertilizer applied makes a difference.
manure you can make one pass and 100 percent your fertilizer state. It is also good for realistic gameplay also. I like to use digestate because in base game you cannot sell it and i own the bga.
In real life manure and slurry is better becaus fert cost is way to high to get good crops or grasse yes i am a dairy farmer
Me thinks that manure is also a waste of time/money. The straw needed to ‘make’ 31,165L of manure is worth more than the $209 difference to slurry.
I'd like to know how in the world does one use wenches in game?
Now I just got fs22 I had fs19 before this. Anyway I do not know if it was a thing a yr ago when this vid was made due to updates or not or its even the precision farming mods but the sold and liquid fert. you buy cost twice as much ONLY due to you have to use them twice on your field to get the most out of it. Now manure and slurry only take a single app. of them to get the most yield from you crop. $1600 is not a lot of cash in the long run. Now if your pinching pennies I understand your point here, Just remember playing this game you are NOT just a farmer running trackers, you are also a business man/woman. All your time cost's whether its RL or in game. So the whole point of this is, What is your time really worth?
Digestate is used for grass it’s no good for other crops
Nice as an option though for guys playing on more challenging difficulties who also don't start with $20 Million in the bank. Rp vs. min/maxing a sim game really...
How can I put this simply? You can't lose something you don't have
I play like i want but respect
they should update the system that, when you are using manure or slurry or digestate, the game would add an enviromental bonus, bc spraying chemicals like factory made fertilizers and liquids, is not good for the environment.
What about nitrogen levels?
Nothing can maintain or build soil health like manure that's why people buy it even if it's more expensive than fertilizer! But that's real life 😉
U doin more than u have to 1st layer use your slurry 2nd use planter with solid fertilizer to plant your crops then your ready to roll
Does anyone else have an issue using the AI worker? The tank will be 100% full and it will say that the tank is empty when I try to hire a worker. Any thoughts?
I like this vid. But manure is not wasting money if farms already produce it.
Is there any mod that will buy slurry? I have 4M litters of it. I don’t use it on fields. Only use it for the biogas plant. Really don’t want 10 biogas plants lol
And digestate. I got 3.6M litters of that
31 thousand 165 thousand liters. Lol nice
Why do people even hire a worker when courseplay exists? And also this chart is useless if you're using precision farming
Courseplay isn't an option for console players. And you are correct everything changes when Precision Farming is used. I'll be making another video when I can find a good map with fields that are easy to test on.
I sold the bga and I bring manure and slurry to this
What's even more insane is people actually spread shit all over the "food". What's crazy? People pay money to eat it. 🤢
liquid not wider? solid has 42m width.
The manure does nitrogen though
I make money out of crops or selling animals.
If it's very big fields? I don't use manure or slurry since I don't own that much of cows too produce enough.
But small fields too normal size? I use slurry or manure.
Realistic? It's very much reversed. I aim too always play semi realistic
your not taking the bio gas plant into account were you can sell slurry and get digestate
don't play pn easy if you're over the age of 3.
This video doesn’t make any sense since the TH-cam didn’t consider The Bga
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just dont play on easy mode
if u have animals is free and no cost and no problem. if u buyit its ur problem... for me its free anyway... nothing cost me anything... im on pc.... mods and cheasts....
It's not "free". There's a term: opportunity cost. If you can sell the manure for $3000 and then buy solid fertilizer for $1000 you've fertilized your field AND made $2000, right? If you just use the manure, you've fertilized your field and made $0.
Play on hard.
its eco friendly ''''!!""""!!!!
Say again? Manure is free...
Food for thought that I did not see anyone bring up, if you use Slurry/Manure to fertilize, it also pays for all the fuel and wear and tear for all equipment used as well as the hired hand as opposed to the other methods, where you purchase EVERYTHING I listed above. Plus, you get it passively by means of having pigs/cows. But farming large fields, you won't have enough manure/slurry to fertilize it all, depending on your operation.
Mf show stats for normal mode tf you showing easy for