Toyota 4 runner proven n tested just liked Land Cruiser one of the best,have driven the Land Cruiser since 1979 while working in Thai /Malaysian rugged tropical mountainous terrains teeming with logger trucks,land rovers n us some with wheels chains when raining.Land Rovers r good too but spared parts r hard to get.
I applaud you and crew on sticking to the video schedule, because it was on the calendar. We, the fans appreciate it. I own a Gladiator Rubicon currently and have owned several 4Runners in the past. Both are great vehicles, for different purposes. You can't go wrong with either. Both are great platforms for off-road adventure.
Had the off road premium. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. The keep is just too much of a compromise for 95%+ of the population. Reliability on the 4runner is amazing
These are both demo trucks and the tyres that come with them have to stay on. The reviewers are not allowed to change wheels or tyres on any of the cars they review.
My opinion - I have owned both Jeep and Toyota, the jeep is better off road although only marginally. I moved to Toyota for the lack of issues they have and their long term reliability. Toyota is the better buy.
Living in the mountains I love this. When we go snowboarding and snow shoeing and backpacking in the snow, finding places to experiences the snow is the best. Just be prepared! Always have chains that fit, that you know how to use, and proper clothing, food water, equipment in case you get snowed in and have to stay the night. Always be prepared.
Great video Ryan. I purchased a TRD Off Road Premium in November and look forward to adventures such as this in the future. You can’t go wrong for what it provides.
20:20 Chains always go on the drive axle, don't need a manual to tell you that. What you do need the manual for is to see if there are restrictions on the type of traction control devices that can be used, generally due to clearance issues. Some say low-profile cables only, some have no limitations. Follow the requirements/limitations in the manual so you avoid damage.
@@jonnaterry large displacement NA engine, 5 speed auto. Last generation interior. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that is not dated. Not that it's a bad thing, as evidenced by so many who still buy and love them. I think that's exactly the point, the a750f is battle proven, so is the 1grfe, the interior is just old but you know all the switches will work. The 4runner is comfort food, is not exotic or fancy, simply satisfying.
@@jonnaterry that's the rub, the 4Runner is a dinosaur, which admittedly some people like, and it's only real competition is the Jeep Wrangler. And not too many people cross shop the 2, because you're either a Jeep person or a Toyota person. I have a 4Runner, however I think in a lot of ways the Wrangler is a superior vehicle, however the Toyota probably has the edge in reliability and use as a daily driver. Actually, I guess I contradicted myself because I actually did cross shop the two. I really really wanted the Jeep, however the JL Rubicon was just out of budget, and there weren't any on the used Market at the time, so I settled on a 2013 4Runner Trail Edition as a much cheaper, and better daily driver. The real Trail Edition, I should specify. Mine has the rear locker, crawl control, and MTS.
@@PatrickRich the current generation 4Runner is actually okay, it just needs a total interior redo, and a new drive train. If they stuck with the same basic body and chassis architecture, it's not even that bad. The worst part about it for sure is that 4 liter V6 and the 5-speed transmission. The gearing seems off, and the engine never makes any power where you need it. Pressing the gas pedal harder is basically just accompanied by transmission downshifts and more noise, but very little actual acceleration. I mostly love my 4Runner, but the four liter just makes me cringe. Maybe it would be better at least if it didn't sound so terrible.
@@trailrunnah8886 exactly how I feel about my 2020 trd off road premium, but she chewed this past winter up like it was nothing and smiled while doing it. Stay strong guy's and God bless
Yep, "THE BETTER CHOICE." You said it, My friend... AS IF it wasn't apparent already.. I would buy the 4runner instead, as well... BUT, it would have to be the TRD OR/PRO. Thank you for another Cool and informative video, Ryan Douthit.
@@pekanpi434 I understand why you would do that for sure. Out here in Cali they charge 15k above sticker. But I found one in AZ for 50k so its about 7k more but you get a good amount more. Besides off road stuff dual zone climate better speakers auto head lights and led headlights. For me its worth for extra money.
@@shrayesraman5192 check different dealers....a dealer in moreno valley wantes to charhe me 67,000 for a 2wd sr5 because they were in "HIGH DEMAND" drove 30 minutes to the john Elway dealer in Ontario & paid sticker price for a 2021 Venture edition....4x4,KDSS & all the off road goodies it came with
2 things I learned from living in the mountains of the West. First, you don't need chains in a Toyota 4x4. I have a 4runner and FZJ80. Most of the time 4-hi was fine up to about 17 inches. If more snow then shift to 4-lo and no issues. Putting chains on a 4runner is laughable- get better tires. Second always have a chainsaw in the back.
Are you 6' 1", legs and torso proportionate? lol. I always smile when you drop that stat. It's a great specific detail found only in your review videos. I've never heard anyone else, ever, add the "legs and torso proportionate" info. It's your signature line. lol
2:28 All-seasons and M/Ts are at opposite ends of the spectrum, neither are really good in the snow. Short of dedicated winter tires, a good 3PMSF all-terrain tire like the Falken Wildpeak A/T3w is a great choice for use in all conditions. I've run all-seasons, all-terrtains, and mud-terrain tires over the years and the Wildpeak tires I currently run have been the best I've had.
My Jeep Wrangler TJ has been the most fun vehicle I've ever owned, seriously love the thing. I still replaced my old 4Runner with a new 4Runner tho...not because my TJ has been unreliable in any way (it hasn't) but because the 4Runner has proven to be just such a great jack of all trades with few compromises. Throughly practical vehicle that just gets the stuff I need to do done.
The TJ would probably be the newest Wrangler I'd consider. The newer ones have really gone downhill from a reliability standpoint. Can't beat the 4.0 I6
Hey dude, glad to see you doing more off-roading (or snow-roading). I tried to say before: those chains are not appropriate for off-roading. Those are for highway driving. You need some less convenient, ladder-style, much thicker chains (boron steel, ideally, possibly v-bar if you want max traction) for more durability if you drive over logs, rocks, etc. Those little guys will snap, plus they just don't have the same bite. I'd also put them on all 4 wheels if I were driving in 4wd (and maybe even if I wasn't) - why does the manual say not to chain up in the front?
Rubicon Gladiator starts around $43 but can be had for less. Don’t need to throw that many options on it. Sad thing is people will spend nearly $60k on marked up Trd pros.
I live in your area and I really enjoy seeing you go to places that I can readily access. It's cool the way you show exactly where you are too. Some outdoor type channels here never mention where they are.
@@PondMaster3000 hmmm… instead of dispelling the truthful comment about rusting Toyotas that fall literally falling apart, you comment about my profile pic. That’s weird. It’s almost like you have no proof Toyota is actually reliable. I mean, all these class action lawsuits certainly are proof otherwise. 💀💀💀
@@marktolsma8816 show some actual data that proves Toyota is more reliable… fake news taught half the country the election was rigged so propaganda does work. No surveys, actual empirical data not biased owner opinions.
I love the location for this comparison. There are lots of reasons people will go with one over the other and I own a Jeep Wrangler so I can speak to my reliability and I’ve got very few issues with my experience. In the winter there’s less of a discussion about what a large part of a Gladiator offers compared to the 4Runner. I’m speaking about an open cabin experience; other than the soon coming Bronco or the Wrangler, there’s no comparison. We are also talking about a truck vs. an SUV. So in the whole user experience, payload and towing has also to be considered. Ultimately it comes down to which gives you more smiles per mile. ✌🏼
If those are Falken Wildpeaks AT3Ws then it doesn't matter if it's slushy or not. Those are real winter-rated tires. I've driven in deep snow, slush, ice and heavy rain. It does it all. (I've seen good reviews for mud too) Compared to a dedicated snow tire, it's weakest point would be ice.
I bought the 21 trd off road it’s an amazing 4Runner for some people it’s outdated but honestly if it’s not broken why change it. That 4.0 bulletproof engine and the 5 speed transmission that’s a great combination no need 8 speed.
So why not drive a model T? The 8 speed is leaps and bounds better than the 5 speed. It’s actually the best auto I’ve ever driven by far. Converted me over from manual vehicles as my first ever auto car for myself. The 3.6 pentastar is a proven 10 year old engine, along with Dana 44 axles and NP transfer case shifted by a lever I don’t know what else could be more “don’t fix what ain’t broke.” . Unless you’re justifying the horrific interior on that 10 plus year old outdated Toyota. Which has nothing to do with reliability. . Though an axle is far more reliable and old school than ifs. But leave it to yota folk to rationalize something with nonsensical justifications.
I always question a little when people say a 4 runner can do everything a jeep can off-road becasue everybody’s definition off off-road is different . For me solid axles , lots of articulation, lockers front and rear a 4:1 gear in the Tcase and the ability to put 37s on with only a couple inches of lift beats out any computer traction system . That being said for a daily driver/weekend explorer rig a 4 runner would win out ..... maybe . Don’t be afraid to air down to 15psi in the deep snow, you would not believe the difference in traction dropping from 20-15psi when you get down to 10 is when you really see AT/MT tires come alive in deep snow but usually requires beadlocks . Great video as always
Which is why we tried to stress that everything was in the context of the exact day’s road conditions. In a perfect (and over-dramatic) world the road would wash away behind us and we’d have to crawl to safety. But that’s never going to happen. 😂
@@drivingsports never say never had it happen once out exploring during a rain storm with rising mountain temps and the road washed out over night but thankfully I found a way around it because I was in a forester .
I followed them up in my highlander. No problem with the climate plus tires aired down. always brake to test for ice. Abs will keep it straight. Never throttle for ice/traction test.
The M/T on the side of those Falkens stands for Mud Terrain. The AT3W is the all terrain. I ran the M/T, siped, a couple years back on a 14 Wrangler JK 2 door year round in BC. 25 psi on the hwy and some common sense they worked fine in all conditions including ice. 18 psi off hwy and they where amazing in snow. Other than that I don't think I can justify the premium for the Jeep. Waiting for the Bronco!
Recommend the Trd Offroad Premium, skip the sunroof for extra head room. If keeping stock get Kdss. Use Carista app to adjust dash lights and other features. They used to have a one week license. Not sure on their current pay schedule. I also turned off the seat belt minder which could be handy if your filming. These come on a boat from Japan every 3 weeks or so. It took 3 separate boats for the configuration I wanted to arrive. Factory side steps are extremely easy to install (wife is short). I worked with a local Seattle dealer to get exactly what I wanted at msrp. Some dealers only want to sell whats on the lot.
Have to agree those all seasons are not great in snow, my 2021 sr5 premium came with the Dunlops they aren't great in the snow. Fantastic on the HW though.
Yes I do love 4Runners, but I do not like the stance they come from factory, especially the Limited. All 3 of my 4Runners SR5, TRD ORP & Limited are lifted with tire upgrades. I love how they look after a small lift.
My decision is made in a heart beat, 4runner of course, I will go with confidence with one of the top 5 long lasting vehicle in the U.S. until today still made in Japan along side the land cruisers and Lexus Gx Lx. Not to mention the reliability of these vehicle, the indestructible engine just to mention a few and I could go on forever. I am a Toyota fan and drive a 2013 GX.
Zero statistical evidence to prove that. In fact, Subaru claims to have the longest lasting vehicles based off statistics while Toyota claims highest reliability based off customer perception. Toyota’s own data doesn’t show them as more reliable outside of what their customers want to believe. 😂🤣😂💀
Why not compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the 4 Runner? Wouldn’t those be more likely crossed shopped? Plus a fairer comparison given the weight distribution, break over angles, and approach/departure angles.
Everything is relative. Standard practice, always drop tires to 18-about 20 pounds for non beed lock wheels. Assuming that you were smart enough, (knowing where you were going). You would have a cap or cargo cover. Thus dry storage. You could have challenged the trucks power, tires and several other things with the challenge of the down trees. True the 4-Runner needs better tires, both the Gladiator and we’re built to bring mountains down several levels. I
Haven't driven a new gladiator diesel, but the 4runner has only received facelifts and minor power update since 2010. The engine and trans have been around since 2003. Yes the jeep products are more money but its R&D money and updating the product with new equipment and completely new generations. Id pickup a 4th gen v8 and do some maintance and mods, or just get a rubicon.
Thanks Ryan. Happy New Year. I would think a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk would have made a better comparo vehicle to the 4Runner. What, no Starbucks at the top of the mountain? GPS fail...
Next time put the strap closer to the end of the tree and whip it back with momentum and it will go into the ditch and out of the road. Trail maintenance is always fun.
You should compare a 2007 4runner vs a 2014 4runner if you ever get the chance too, so people who want to offroad can see what olternative has better options for the price
18:57 Those are mud-terrain (M/T) tires, not all-terrtain (A/T) tires on the Gladiator. Pretty big difference between the two. M/T can be great in some snow and awful in other snow, the M/T tread pattern is meant to be great at self-cleaning which is what you want in the mud but actually don't want in the snow unless your goal is to have the tire dig down into the snow until you reach solid ground.
In my experience, the deeper the snow is, the better mud tires are. I ran mud tires on my old Grand Cherokee, and they were terrific in slushy snow and deep snow. Not so much on packed down snow.
My Toyota dealer has always thrown in a set of snow tires or at the very least rims so I see these videos as a little off in the approach. No one in my province drives all season tires after October. In fact at least one province dictates winter tires as a requirement.
Talk about an apple to orange comparison. A diesel pickup in top of the line trim with mud tires compared to a SUV mid trim with street tires. I'm amazed at how well the 4Runner did and let's see which vehicle is still running trouble free at anything much over 100,000 miles or even less. The engine is probably the only real dependable thing on that Jeep. I know from owning 3 Jeeps that the transmissions are problematic and electrical problems rear their ugly heads at any time. My 2019 4Runner will most likely outlast me.
There's just something right about seeing 4runners in snow and woods
I agree, plus it’s awesome in that color
Yes Sir
My 4Runner is 25 years old; almost 400,000 miles. So between the Gladiator and 4Runner? I'll take the 4Runner any day.
Toyota 4 runner proven n tested just liked Land Cruiser one of the best,have driven the Land Cruiser since 1979 while working in Thai /Malaysian rugged tropical mountainous terrains teeming with logger trucks,land rovers n us some with wheels chains when raining.Land Rovers r good too but spared parts r hard to get.
Yeah. You'll have to buy 2 or 3 jeeps to get the same life your get for a 4Runner.
@@edgarperez6211 More like 4-6 ...in real math numbers
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My XJ is at 395,000, I’d take the gladiator.
I applaud you and crew on sticking to the video schedule, because it was on the calendar. We, the fans appreciate it. I own a Gladiator Rubicon currently and have owned several 4Runners in the past. Both are great vehicles, for different purposes. You can't go wrong with either. Both are great platforms for off-road adventure.
With the 3.6 and the ZF 8 speed, the jeep is a great choice.
I think Jeeps downfall, at least compared to 4runners is mechanical unreliability
@@andrewcarpinella1217 if jeep used the same drivetrain that's almost two decades old, they'd surely be reliable as well.
@@feelthatfeelthat if it aint broke, dont fix it.
Had the off road premium. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. The keep is just too much of a compromise for 95%+ of the population. Reliability on the 4runner is amazing
My choice goes for the 4Runner, though the Jeep may also be cool.
If you live in the Snow Belt and can afford a 4Runner or Jeep, you can easily afford a set of winter tires mounted on cheap steel rims.
True for a lot of people. . Not everyone has the space to store tires and wheels though.
Right Lane Hog: Concur.
These are both demo trucks and the tyres that come with them have to stay on. The reviewers are not allowed to change wheels or tyres on any of the cars they review.
Winter tires should be mandatory in winter climates. They make a huge difference. All seasons are really 3 seasons.
@@Ktheodoss lots of places offer cheap storage. Ppl are just dumb and think winter tires don't make a difference
My opinion - I have owned both Jeep and Toyota, the jeep is better off road although only marginally. I moved to Toyota for the lack of issues they have and their long term reliability. Toyota is the better buy.
4Runners are just incredible trucks. I love them.
Living in the mountains I love this. When we go snowboarding and snow shoeing and backpacking in the snow, finding places to experiences the snow is the best. Just be prepared! Always have chains that fit, that you know how to use, and proper clothing, food water, equipment in case you get snowed in and have to stay the night. Always be prepared.
Great video Ryan. I purchased a TRD Off Road Premium in November and look forward to adventures such as this in the future. You can’t go wrong for what it provides.
I bought a 21 4runner Venture and love it! Got a great deal on it so I couldn’t say no.
Love the Toyota winter coat....need one of those.
I just pick trd off-road premium and love it.
13:08 Absolute mad lad with a old Honda Minivan in those conditions in the middle of nowhere.
Bought army green 2021 4runner in November.. Really liking it though in time definitely would like to upgrade tires and also upgrade to trd skid plate
Army green Tundra here.
Get Duratracs they’re awesome
20:20 Chains always go on the drive axle, don't need a manual to tell you that. What you do need the manual for is to see if there are restrictions on the type of traction control devices that can be used, generally due to clearance issues. Some say low-profile cables only, some have no limitations. Follow the requirements/limitations in the manual so you avoid damage.
When are you taking the Outback that same road? I'd love to see that. :)
Yup I wanna see it
Great job to your Drone pilot! Amazing shots!
4Runner summed up - Outdated, but still the right fit for so many.
Just curious - outdated in what sense? What would be a better choice in the same price range ?
@@jonnaterry large displacement NA engine, 5 speed auto. Last generation interior.
I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that is not dated. Not that it's a bad thing, as evidenced by so many who still buy and love them.
I think that's exactly the point, the a750f is battle proven, so is the 1grfe, the interior is just old but you know all the switches will work.
The 4runner is comfort food, is not exotic or fancy, simply satisfying.
@@jonnaterry that's the rub, the 4Runner is a dinosaur, which admittedly some people like, and it's only real competition is the Jeep Wrangler. And not too many people cross shop the 2, because you're either a Jeep person or a Toyota person. I have a 4Runner, however I think in a lot of ways the Wrangler is a superior vehicle, however the Toyota probably has the edge in reliability and use as a daily driver.
Actually, I guess I contradicted myself because I actually did cross shop the two. I really really wanted the Jeep, however the JL Rubicon was just out of budget, and there weren't any on the used Market at the time, so I settled on a 2013 4Runner Trail Edition as a much cheaper, and better daily driver.
The real Trail Edition, I should specify. Mine has the rear locker, crawl control, and MTS.
@@PatrickRich the current generation 4Runner is actually okay, it just needs a total interior redo, and a new drive train. If they stuck with the same basic body and chassis architecture, it's not even that bad.
The worst part about it for sure is that 4 liter V6 and the 5-speed transmission. The gearing seems off, and the engine never makes any power where you need it. Pressing the gas pedal harder is basically just accompanied by transmission downshifts and more noise, but very little actual acceleration.
I mostly love my 4Runner, but the four liter just makes me cringe. Maybe it would be better at least if it didn't sound so terrible.
@@trailrunnah8886 exactly how I feel about my 2020 trd off road premium, but she chewed this past winter up like it was nothing and smiled while doing it.
Stay strong guy's and God bless
I love my 2018 4R TRD OR nothing beats it for practically and overall enjoyment...
Bought the TRD Off Road Premium
The best model choice re. "bang for the buck" IMO.
They look really cool.
same 2020 Super White, and I just scored TRD pro fox shocks just need to install it.
@@Patrick5 And still have the KDSS like on the Lexus GX 470 and the 200 Series Toyota Land Cruiser.
Same, and put the TRD skid plate on, blsck out emblems, pro wheels, and the nitto terra Grappler G2’s
I just bought the 2022 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. More comfortable seating position and mileage is awesome.
Great videos.
I have seen all the 4runner videos.
Snow and 4runner = love, amazing, perfect.
Many greets from Germany
Yep, "THE BETTER CHOICE." You said it, My friend... AS IF it wasn't apparent already.. I would buy the 4runner instead, as well... BUT, it would have to be the TRD OR/PRO. Thank you for another Cool and informative video, Ryan Douthit.
Get the OR premium and take that savings and make it your own. Its what I did and I love it!!
@@pekanpi434 I understand why you would do that for sure. Out here in Cali they charge 15k above sticker. But I found one in AZ for 50k so its about 7k more but you get a good amount more. Besides off road stuff dual zone climate better speakers auto head lights and led headlights. For me its worth for extra money.
@@shrayesraman5192 check different dealers....a dealer in moreno valley wantes to charhe me 67,000 for a 2wd sr5 because they were in "HIGH DEMAND" drove 30 minutes to the john Elway dealer in Ontario & paid sticker price for a 2021 Venture edition....4x4,KDSS & all the off road goodies it came with
Can't wait to get a tacoma or 4 runner TRD to explore evergreen in the winter!
4Runner is great, but can't wait to see the new one in 2022/2023...
I just hope they don't pit the 6 speed from the Taco.
2 things I learned from living in the mountains of the West. First, you don't need chains in a Toyota 4x4. I have a 4runner and FZJ80. Most of the time 4-hi was fine up to about 17 inches. If more snow then shift to 4-lo and no issues. Putting chains on a 4runner is laughable- get better tires. Second always have a chainsaw in the back.
I love my 2020 4 runner TRD offroad. But the Gladiator is a solid rig as well.
Love the channel. You do more off roading than most off road channels.
Thanks for watching! Jeep hasn’t sent one up here in a while.
Are you 6' 1", legs and torso proportionate? lol. I always smile when you drop that stat. It's a great specific detail found only in your review videos. I've never heard anyone else, ever, add the "legs and torso proportionate" info. It's your signature line. lol
Love my 2017 4unner limited!
2:28 All-seasons and M/Ts are at opposite ends of the spectrum, neither are really good in the snow. Short of dedicated winter tires, a good 3PMSF all-terrain tire like the Falken Wildpeak A/T3w is a great choice for use in all conditions. I've run all-seasons, all-terrtains, and mud-terrain tires over the years and the Wildpeak tires I currently run have been the best I've had.
Yep best tires for the 4Runner especially. They eat snow for breakfast
At3w is the standard tire for Rubicon Gladiator. He had the upgraded MT wild peaks. I’m pretty happy with the at3w
My Jeep Wrangler TJ has been the most fun vehicle I've ever owned, seriously love the thing. I still replaced my old 4Runner with a new 4Runner tho...not because my TJ has been unreliable in any way (it hasn't) but because the 4Runner has proven to be just such a great jack of all trades with few compromises. Throughly practical vehicle that just gets the stuff I need to do done.
The TJ would probably be the newest Wrangler I'd consider. The newer ones have really gone downhill from a reliability standpoint. Can't beat the 4.0 I6
@@DaveScottADV It's a seriously fun vehicle!
Hey dude, glad to see you doing more off-roading (or snow-roading). I tried to say before: those chains are not appropriate for off-roading. Those are for highway driving. You need some less convenient, ladder-style, much thicker chains (boron steel, ideally, possibly v-bar if you want max traction) for more durability if you drive over logs, rocks, etc. Those little guys will snap, plus they just don't have the same bite. I'd also put them on all 4 wheels if I were driving in 4wd (and maybe even if I wasn't) - why does the manual say not to chain up in the front?
Something about seeing a nice rig with snow in the background makes me want to click on the video. haha
4Runner for trouble-free miles of long term use A-one video review
67K for the Gladiator?! Thats insane.
Yeah no kidding. I wouldn't pay $67 for it.
Ditto
Get used to it. Inflation is coming.
I would get a TRD pro 4Runner over a gladiator. Not even a question
There’s like 12k in useless options for the wheels, painted flares and hard top, leather, front facing camera, fancy stereo from what I can tell.
"which one is best"
me: depends on use case.
"Jeep 60k"
me: f$ck no.
When they showed the price my face made a twitch.
67
Rubicon Gladiator starts around $43 but can be had for less. Don’t need to throw that many options on it. Sad thing is people will spend nearly $60k on marked up Trd pros.
I am glad you made it to 2021
Great video BUD .
I live in your area and I really enjoy seeing you go to places that I can readily access. It's cool the way you show exactly where you are too. Some outdoor type channels here never mention where they are.
I would buy the Toyota. Rock solid reliability! I still own a 2006 4RUNNER Limited V8 that I bought new and it still works well and is dependable!
Literally the generation 4R that just lost a class action suit for dangerous rust proliferation on the chassis. 🤣😂💀
@@KTMcaptain All your comments about Toyotas, oh of course you have a jeep as your youtube profile pic lmao
@@PondMaster3000 hmmm… instead of dispelling the truthful comment about rusting Toyotas that fall literally falling apart, you comment about my profile pic. That’s weird. It’s almost like you have no proof Toyota is actually reliable. I mean, all these class action lawsuits certainly are proof otherwise. 💀💀💀
@@KTMcaptain Yeah, Toyota reliability must be "fake news". You Jeep Stans are a different breed lmao
@@marktolsma8816 show some actual data that proves Toyota is more reliable… fake news taught half the country the election was rigged so propaganda does work. No surveys, actual empirical data not biased owner opinions.
The rapids down the side of 2 almost the whole way are amazing.
I love the location for this comparison. There are lots of reasons people will go with one over the other and I own a Jeep Wrangler so I can speak to my reliability and I’ve got very few issues with my experience. In the winter there’s less of a discussion about what a large part of a Gladiator offers compared to the 4Runner. I’m speaking about an open cabin experience; other than the soon coming Bronco or the Wrangler, there’s no comparison. We are also talking about a truck vs. an SUV. So in the whole user experience, payload and towing has also to be considered. Ultimately it comes down to which gives you more smiles per mile. ✌🏼
My 1998 daily 4runner will go to Alaska and back to Texas with no doubt.
If those are Falken Wildpeaks AT3Ws then it doesn't matter if it's slushy or not. Those are real winter-rated tires. I've driven in deep snow, slush, ice and heavy rain. It does it all. (I've seen good reviews for mud too) Compared to a dedicated snow tire, it's weakest point would be ice.
I’m a Toyota guy. On my second 4runner. I love them, but the gladiator is badass!! I’m hoping the 6th gen 4runner is 🔥
Great video. Your production quality is fantastic as well
Such a beautiful trip. Love the footage.
He’s good driving chops. Glad he does stock off road reviews. Helps me as a buyer.
Bought the 4Runner trd off. Road premium!! What a car!!!
Right!? Best car ever. Love the kdss!
I bought the 21 trd off road it’s an amazing 4Runner for some people it’s outdated but honestly if it’s not broken why change it. That 4.0 bulletproof engine and the 5 speed transmission that’s a great combination no need 8 speed.
So why not drive a model T? The 8 speed is leaps and bounds better than the 5 speed. It’s actually the best auto I’ve ever driven by far. Converted me over from manual vehicles as my first ever auto car for myself. The 3.6 pentastar is a proven 10 year old engine, along with Dana 44 axles and NP transfer case shifted by a lever I don’t know what else could be more “don’t fix what ain’t broke.”
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Unless you’re justifying the horrific interior on that 10 plus year old outdated Toyota. Which has nothing to do with reliability.
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Though an axle is far more reliable and old school than ifs. But leave it to yota folk to rationalize something with nonsensical justifications.
@@KTMcaptain 💯
Would take 4runner hands down !!!!
I always question a little when people say a 4 runner can do everything a jeep can off-road becasue everybody’s definition off off-road is different . For me solid axles , lots of articulation, lockers front and rear a 4:1 gear in the Tcase and the ability to put 37s on with only a couple inches of lift beats out any computer traction system . That being said for a daily driver/weekend explorer rig a 4 runner would win out ..... maybe .
Don’t be afraid to air down to 15psi in the deep snow, you would not believe the difference in traction dropping from 20-15psi when you get down to 10 is when you really see AT/MT tires come alive in deep snow but usually requires beadlocks .
Great video as always
Which is why we tried to stress that everything was in the context of the exact day’s road conditions. In a perfect (and over-dramatic) world the road would wash away behind us and we’d have to crawl to safety. But that’s never going to happen. 😂
@@drivingsports never say never had it happen once out exploring during a rain storm with rising mountain temps and the road washed out over night but thankfully I found a way around it because I was in a forester .
Such beautiful locations!
Toyota 4Runner 💯 my Jeep was in the shop every weekend 😢 my 4Runner goes and goes on like New!
That is a beautiful video with some great information and an interesting comparison. Thank you!
like the video but this is no comparison. low trim 4runner vs top trim jeep? 4runner with chains and jeep without? what's the difference?
I have a 2000 4Runner and a 1998 Lx470. The ride comfort of lx470 is excellent. Can go with a 1foot of snow.
I love my 2020 4Runner TRD ORP
Why did you guys not compare a TRD PRO with the Rubicon? I feel like that would make it more comparable imo.
I followed them up in my highlander. No problem with the climate plus tires aired down. always brake to test for ice. Abs will keep it straight. Never throttle for ice/traction test.
How about Diesel 4Runner? I wish....
Million years from now the roaches would be driving it lol
@@dezmitchell5329 and no diesel 4Runner lol
@@TheNavydude2006 it would be waayy to dependable
@@dezmitchell5329 you got that right, people won't buy anything else!
The front seats are notorious for having poor support under the knees. Seat Jackers from Desert Does It help considerably.
The 4runner any day !! Great looking beast
Beautiful scenery and camera shoots! Great vid overall 👍🏼
The M/T on the side of those Falkens stands for Mud Terrain. The AT3W is the all terrain. I ran the M/T, siped, a couple years back on a 14 Wrangler JK 2 door year round in BC. 25 psi on the hwy and some common sense they worked fine in all conditions including ice. 18 psi off hwy and they where amazing in snow. Other than that I don't think I can justify the premium for the Jeep. Waiting for the Bronco!
We did note a correction from AT to MT earlier in the video.
Nice scenery 👍👍😊 really enjoy watching these day trip adventure ✌ looking forward for more 😊
Recommend the Trd Offroad Premium, skip the sunroof for extra head room. If keeping stock get Kdss. Use Carista app to adjust dash lights and other features. They used to have a one week license. Not sure on their current pay schedule. I also turned off the seat belt minder which could be handy if your filming. These come on a boat from Japan every 3 weeks or so. It took 3 separate boats for the configuration I wanted to arrive. Factory side steps are extremely easy to install (wife is short). I worked with a local Seattle dealer to get exactly what I wanted at msrp. Some dealers only want to sell whats on the lot.
I have BF Goodrich KO2s on my gladiator which work well in the snow.
Have to agree those all seasons are not great in snow, my 2021 sr5 premium came with the Dunlops they aren't great in the snow. Fantastic on the HW though.
Yes I do love 4Runners, but I do not like the stance they come from factory, especially the Limited. All 3 of my 4Runners SR5, TRD ORP & Limited are lifted with tire upgrades. I love how they look after a small lift.
My decision is made in a heart beat, 4runner of course, I will go with confidence with one of the top 5 long lasting vehicle in the U.S. until today still made in Japan along side the land cruisers and Lexus Gx Lx. Not to mention the reliability of these vehicle, the indestructible engine just to mention a few and I could go on forever.
I am a Toyota fan and drive a 2013 GX.
Zero statistical evidence to prove that. In fact, Subaru claims to have the longest lasting vehicles based off statistics while Toyota claims highest reliability based off customer perception. Toyota’s own data doesn’t show them as more reliable outside of what their customers want to believe. 😂🤣😂💀
4Runner always, I appreciate superior quality products
Need to explore this place with my 3rd gen 4R! Great vid!!!
Why not compare a Wrangler Rubicon to the 4 Runner? Wouldn’t those be more likely crossed shopped? Plus a fairer comparison given the weight distribution, break over angles, and approach/departure angles.
Stevens Pass can get nasty in the winter months.
We usually go over Blewitt Pass and pick up I-90 in Cle Elum to and from Seattle.
Everything is relative. Standard practice, always drop tires to 18-about 20 pounds for non beed lock wheels. Assuming that you were smart enough, (knowing where you were going). You would have a cap or cargo cover. Thus dry storage. You could have challenged the trucks power, tires and several other things with the challenge of the down trees. True the 4-Runner needs better tires, both the Gladiator and we’re built to bring mountains down several levels. I
Love the video. Great presentation and it's just so relaxing with the snow!
Haven't driven a new gladiator diesel, but the 4runner has only received facelifts and minor power update since 2010. The engine and trans have been around since 2003. Yes the jeep products are more money but its R&D money and updating the product with new equipment and completely new generations. Id pickup a 4th gen v8 and do some maintance and mods, or just get a rubicon.
Thanks Ryan. Happy New Year. I would think a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk would have made a better comparo vehicle to the 4Runner. What, no Starbucks at the top of the mountain? GPS fail...
You’ve just earned a subscriber! I love your off road reviews
67 grand!!!!! My heart beat just shot up. That's heck alot man.
Base is $43k, this just had like every option on it.
4Runner, no doubt!
i want the outback back again haha good vid
The 4Runner looks like a post apocalyptic car!....and that's so impressive.
Next time put the strap closer to the end of the tree and whip it back with momentum and it will go into the ditch and out of the road.
Trail maintenance is always fun.
4Runner all day. Any day. Every day! 👍🏼💪🏼❤️
If you get a TRD Off Road Premium make sure you opt in KDSS!! A huge difference in the ride.
Love snow tests and trail rides.
You should compare a 2007 4runner vs a 2014 4runner if you ever get the chance too, so people who want to offroad can see what olternative has better options for the price
Use a base gladiator with the summer tires and see what it does.
Great review, I am loving the trail for the awesome colors if nothing else!
classic driving sports full wiper setting
Yes! I have noticed this too. Ryan, what say you about this?
Why don't you turn the wipers on a little faster....
18:57 Those are mud-terrain (M/T) tires, not all-terrtain (A/T) tires on the Gladiator. Pretty big difference between the two. M/T can be great in some snow and awful in other snow, the M/T tread pattern is meant to be great at self-cleaning which is what you want in the mud but actually don't want in the snow unless your goal is to have the tire dig down into the snow until you reach solid ground.
We noted the correction earlier in the video.
@@drivingsports Indeed! Just wanted to clarify and add some context between the differences for anyone that missed it or might not know. Thanks!
In my experience, the deeper the snow is, the better mud tires are. I ran mud tires on my old Grand Cherokee, and they were terrific in slushy snow and deep snow. Not so much on packed down snow.
Love my Willy's Diesel Jeep, bought it, weeeeee
My Toyota dealer has always thrown in a set of snow tires or at the very least rims so I see these videos as a little off in the approach. No one in my province drives all season tires after October. In fact at least one province dictates winter tires as a requirement.
Exactly.
You are in Canada. Ryan is in the pacific north west USA
I wish the TRD Pro came with the AWD option same as the Limited.
Talk about an apple to orange comparison. A diesel pickup in top of the line trim with mud tires compared to a SUV mid trim with street tires. I'm amazed at how well the 4Runner did and let's see which vehicle is still running trouble free at anything much over 100,000 miles or even less. The engine is probably the only real dependable thing on that Jeep. I know from owning 3 Jeeps that the transmissions are problematic and electrical problems rear their ugly heads at any time. My 2019 4Runner will most likely outlast me.
I always carry an ax in my gladiator. Some folks carry a small chainsaw, but i can cut a tree in half with an ax.