30 seconds of the Ovechkin segment was wrongfully claimed :( as a result I had to edit it out or it would be fully blocked. Apologies in advance if that’s section is a bit confusing now.
@Mike JT lmao I doubt you have met someone that doesn’t like pizza. I know I haven’t. So the validity of saying a big chain pizza place is their favourite is a safe brand deal. Because who’s going to have proof that it isn’t their favourite, and if anyone does who cares it’s pizza. Regardless dominos and papa johns have been very successful long before those commercials. Just like the players were successful long before those commercials. So a little money in Wayne and ovi’s pocket and papa Johns and dominos get money from suckers that believe it.
I love that the Sens wasted a second round pick just to be petty. Let him and his ego rot in the ECHL. Nobody is "too good" to be drafted by any NHL team.
Hey Rob! I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for the amazing content. I just recently got into hockey around October of last year and your videos are by far the best for anyone looking to find that love for hockey! Thanks again man, I look forward to your future videos!
@@unbiasedbruinsfanwhocanbeb7968 what? The guy who finished 2nd in defenseman scoring in 08-09 behind prime Mike Green? 59th all time in points per game for dmen, ahead of said Mike Green who is the most pure offensive dman ever? Yeah, totally not an offensive defenseman...
Bergeron (2nd round 45th overall)/Marchand(3rd round 71st overall)/Pastrnak (1st round 25th overall) line is one of the best line in the league and all pretty late picks considering the skill
Best draft pick I’ve seen was Jamie Benn going in the fifth round (129th overall), also I think it would be super awesome for you to make a video on the second round picks from the draft that exceeded expectations, there’s gotta be plenty. ‘-‘
@@wahwin6292 yea it’s amazing how franchise stars can be found in crazy high draft spots, thank you for your info didn’t know Zetterberg was also drafted so late 🤘🏻
“This is BS a prospect is not property” is a false equivalent. No one is forcing the player to play for the team that drafted them. If he doesn’t sign with them he should have to wait another year and redeclare. Otherwise what’s the point of the draft if a player can just sign where he wants in the first place.
About Connor Bleakley. Coach Patrick Roy was furious with the scouting staff when he saw him at the camp in 2014 after not being impress with Chris Brigras the previous year. Bleakley wasn't going to be signed and Arizona never intended to. He was more valuable unsigned then under contract. As per NHL draft rules, when a team do not sign a first round pick they are given an extra second round pick at the same slot position in the round as was the player not sign. So basically instead of inserting a second round pick in the trade they just included Bleakley and not sign him, therefore receiving a second round pick
As you said "teams dont like out of shape players" I wondered...how did Jake Virtanen get a new contract when he has not even shown up to camp in shape once.
Bleakley... oof. Thanks for reminding me. I couldn’t remember who the Avs drafted between MacKinnon and Rantanen. In the modern era the Avs don’t really have a lot of late round stars. You’ll have to go back to the Quebec days. I think O’Reilly and Barrie in the 2nd then 3rd rounds were pretty good, but the Avs didn’t capitalize on Ryan. That being said, the Avs’ current crop of top ten pick talents weren’t shoe-ins (none of the McDavid sure-fires to take away the drama). MacK wasn’t an auto number 1 and there were a few guys picked ahead of Rantanen at 10. There are a few guys I can see potential in, but I’m not going to brag about them. But I like Sasha Mutala and Justus Annunen. Newhook doesn’t count.
Ever hear of Nick Boynton? He was the ninth overall pick in the 1997 NHL draft by the Capitals. They couldn't come to terms and Boynton reentered the draft in 1999 and was a first round pick by Boston. He had a decent career. The Caps on the other hand had nothing to show considering that Marian Hossa was selected three picks later in 1997.
Probably Duncan Keith being drafted in the 2nd round. Or Alex DeBrincat because he is having a huge breakout year and has potential on being an elite scorer or maybe being a franchise player when Kane is gone
Jarret Stoll was drafted twice after a botched fax machine killed a deal to have him signed and traded to Toronto before the deadline. I was at the 2002 draft in Toronto, and the fans were livid when the Leafs drafted Alex Steen in the first round when Stoll was available, as he was thought to be NHL-ready.
The big question...if Ovi was just 2 days older and therefore eligible for the '03 draft. Would Florida have drafted him 1st OVR instead of trading the pick to Pit. I know they wanted him but would they have used a 1st overall pick on him in a stacked draft? Pretty sure North American players can't do that if their bday is after September 15 because they will be 21 in that draft year and thus ineligible for that draft. Only non NA players are still eligible at that age.
The part that makes the Chouinard story hilarious is that the pick the sens drafted him in 2000 is the exact pick they got as compensation for not signing him originally.
WYM only Blackwood proved himself. Samsonov is the starting keeper for the top team in the East with awesome stats. Easily an amazing keeper draft from 2015.
It's easy to have good stats with a top team..louis domingue a few years ago for TBL when vasi was hurt..now he's in the AHL because he's not very good
If you guys want to hear the story of Mathieu Chouinard told by himself in french: ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/balados/8304/premiers-choix-histoire-hockey Long story short; Ottawa Senators where kind of jerks to him after drafting him the first time.
I really like the drafting and the salary cap. It is ways to try and spread the talent among many teams and make more teams and more games competitive. A 2 year right seems rather good imo. The discussions here is between the rights of the trainer and the rights of the organisation. And here NHLPA is often doing a good job in helping players and their rights. Which is kind of ironic, a socialistic system with a strong labour union in America.
For the most part the NHL draft appears to be as good as it can be for the good of the game. A player can roll the dice and refuse to sign forcing a trade or a reentry into the draft 2 years later. The NHLPA needs to continue to try and get the player free of the drafting team as quickly as possible. It seems each year the younger player coming off their 3 year entry deal are signing huge contracts.
NHL teams should own the drafted players right as long as they offer a contract. The CBA makes it so that every team can competitively sign entry level contracts and not have to break the bank. It will be problematic when a 1st overall generational player refuses to sign with the team who takes them 1st overall and then a few years later goes elsewhere.
As of late Griffin Reinhardt for a 1st round pick which turned out to be Barzal. However, biggest steal has to be at 15th overall.......... Wait for it........ Mike Bossy!!!
I just don’t want the NHL to trap players for 5+ years before they’re eligible for free agency. This is what the MLB does and it makes free agency such a bummer.
In today’s world, I’m not sure Mario Lemieux would have signed with the Penguins. They were not a desired team like one of the original six or the Islanders back then. Thank God he did. He made Pittsburgh a hockey town. Now, Pittsburgh is a good team to sign with.
My favorite team’s greatest steal in a draft is EASILY Henrik Lundqvist formerly of the New York Rangers. Not really related but seriously wanna wish him well in in his progress recovering from open heart surgery.
When a player is drafted, they should have the option to sign with the drafting team to play in the NHL or the minors for one year, or to not sign with them and not sign with anyone else until they can reenter the draft and be picked by another team. They should not be allowed to refuse to sign with the draft team and then turn around and sign with another team. This way the team "owns" them, but they can refuse to be "owned" by that team.
I'm not sure how that's different from the current system. Players already have to wait if they want to go to a different team, whether it's through re-entering the draft or signing as a free agent.
Draft picks should have to sign their entry level contract with the team that drafts them, after that it's the team's responsibility to get them to stay. Need parity in the NHL, it's good for the league. The player isn't bound to that team forever, just for the first 3 years
But mcdavid was crazy excited to join the oilers cause they brought in Gretzky to help out the organization but he was not as excited when chirelli the gm dragged the team down for 3-4 years after lol
heatley was an overaged #2 overall he could of been drafted the previous year but did not enter because he knew of signing bonuses of 1st rounders , he was only projected as a pick in the 4th round i hear so waiting a year improved his bottom line . I was in attendance for this draft even embarassed mike milbury for trading the 3,4,5 picks of the 97 draft away in that draft , he traded ollie jokinen , roberto luongo and brewer . funny kevin lowe grinned at my comments .
If a player doesn't sign with their draft team and signs with another team, the signing team should have to pay the drafting team by giving up money and future first round picks.
Freddy was traded for draft picks and not players. it's like saying Wayne Gretzky was NOT TRADED for fiat currency but rather whatever it is that the Oilers did with that cash. Draft picks is money and thus why you failed to say such is odd because finding twisty ways to lie or to twist truth is uncool.
30 seconds of the Ovechkin segment was wrongfully claimed :( as a result I had to edit it out or it would be fully blocked. Apologies in advance if that’s section is a bit confusing now.
I would say Jake Guentzel
Gally 5th round maybe
Ovi
Stone by far
Nick Robertson
Just in the thumbnail, “HE SHOWED UP TO CAMP FAT,” so funny 😂.
It’s so outa context lmao
Phil Kessel walks by with a hot dog and a couple Stanley cup rings
"He competed...for some pizza." LMAO. Rob showing that savage side loool
@Mike JT i wonder if they got paid to say they love it🤔
@Mike JT Because then they do not in fact love it. They were paid to sell it to people who don't think for themselves.
Sounds like him and Sasha would get along
@Mike JT lmao I doubt you have met someone that doesn’t like pizza. I know I haven’t. So the validity of saying a big chain pizza place is their favourite is a safe brand deal. Because who’s going to have proof that it isn’t their favourite, and if anyone does who cares it’s pizza. Regardless dominos and papa johns have been very successful long before those commercials. Just like the players were successful long before those commercials. So a little money in Wayne and ovi’s pocket and papa Johns and dominos get money from suckers that believe it.
My teams greatest draft steal...? Easy: Nail Yakupov
Poor guy
Do the oiler have any super big steals no offense but they suck at drafting
@@williambennett5989 The best is Conner McDavid and Leon Draisital
@@williambennett5989 LOL The biggest steal is when we went from 3rd to first in lottery😂
@@Shaynne 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love that the Sens wasted a second round pick just to be petty. Let him and his ego rot in the ECHL. Nobody is "too good" to be drafted by any NHL team.
I was legit waiting all week for a video you are without a doubt my favorite hockey TH-camr seriously keep up the great videos loved it
Fax
Agreed
Thanks dude that means a lot!!
He actually does research instead of reading a hockeydb page like most others.
Hey Rob! I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for the amazing content. I just recently got into hockey around October of last year and your videos are by far the best for anyone looking to find that love for hockey! Thanks again man, I look forward to your future videos!
Thanks dude! That’s means a lot.
Recommendation: Worst chemistry between teammates
Just found this channel and I've watched about 20 vids. I've gotta say, they've been very entertaining. Huge props to you Rob
adam Mascherin could be an interesting one in a couple years. Drafted by florida then Dallas
Hey great video! I remember commenting this for an idea and it turned out better then I ever imagined
You never fail to entertain me with these great hockey videos, great work dude!
you should do a video on the most suprising one season wonders
Cheechoo immediately comes to mind.
Again great content rob ! Please keep it up!!!
Andrei markov, one of the best offensive defenseman between 2000-2018
Markov was a defensive d man
@@unbiasedbruinsfanwhocanbeb7968 what? The guy who finished 2nd in defenseman scoring in 08-09 behind prime Mike Green? 59th all time in points per game for dmen, ahead of said Mike Green who is the most pure offensive dman ever? Yeah, totally not an offensive defenseman...
@@MrRyanxdavey bruh I only watched markov 2016-2018
Mathieu Chouinard was my coach in high school
Couldn't click on the video fast enough. Keep up the good work!
Bergeron (2nd round 45th overall)/Marchand(3rd round 71st overall)/Pastrnak (1st round 25th overall) line is one of the best line in the league and all pretty late picks considering the skill
great vid as usual rob thanks !!
For my team, the Kings it would have to be Luc Robitaille. Honorable mention would go to Jonathan Quick
Another great video!
idea: small players that dropped in the draft who then turned into stars
The cat
Caufield
St. Luis
Pavel Datsyuk
@@robertp.5400 St. Louis dropped so far he didn’t even get drafted
RICK DIPIETRO IS OUR SNAG
Great vid rob
Best draft pick I’ve seen was Jamie Benn going in the fifth round (129th overall), also I think it would be super awesome for you to make a video on the second round picks from the draft that exceeded expectations, there’s gotta be plenty. ‘-‘
Mark stone was drafted in the 6th round
Pavel Datsyuk 6th, Zetterberg 7th round
@@wahwin6292 yea it’s amazing how franchise stars can be found in crazy high draft spots, thank you for your info didn’t know Zetterberg was also drafted so late 🤘🏻
@@dustinmuswagon5162 that’s awesome dude has helped 2 teams get into playoff spots, thanks for sharing 😄🤘🏻
Pekka Rinne? 258th :D
If you do a second one you should put Craig Anderson in it, he’s was drafted by Calgary by in 1999 but then reEntered in 2001 and was taken by Chicago
One piece of honest advice; try and cycle through your verbs and adjectives a bit more. You use dominate / phenom too frequently.
Keep crushing it! Would love to see a video on the Lecavilier Contract. He still collects 1M a year from Tampa
so many studs in the 2014 draft. interesting to note that Colorado would miss on every single pick they had after Bleackley as well. LOL
“This is BS a prospect is not property” is a false equivalent. No one is forcing the player to play for the team that drafted them. If he doesn’t sign with them he should have to wait another year and redeclare. Otherwise what’s the point of the draft if a player can just sign where he wants in the first place.
lance ward was a dman that got drafted twice he was a first round pick for the devils i think then didn’t sign
PK was a STEAL
Great video rob, love the creativity, and the narrating, especially on Ovi.
loved this video
P.S Chouinard is actually pronounced Chwouinar or something around that but you were very close so dont sweat it
one of the best Jackets picks is Cam Atkinson, picked 157th overall in 2008. also Oliver Bjorkstrand, picked at the end of the 3rd round in 2013.
About Connor Bleakley. Coach Patrick Roy was furious with the scouting staff when he saw him at the camp in 2014 after not being impress with Chris Brigras the previous year.
Bleakley wasn't going to be signed and Arizona never intended to. He was more valuable unsigned then under contract. As per NHL draft rules, when a team do not sign a first round pick they are given an extra second round pick at the same slot position in the round as was the player not sign. So basically instead of inserting a second round pick in the trade they just included Bleakley and not sign him, therefore receiving a second round pick
As you said "teams dont like out of shape players" I wondered...how did Jake Virtanen get a new contract when he has not even shown up to camp in shape once.
Bleakley... oof. Thanks for reminding me. I couldn’t remember who the Avs drafted between MacKinnon and Rantanen. In the modern era the Avs don’t really have a lot of late round stars. You’ll have to go back to the Quebec days. I think O’Reilly and Barrie in the 2nd then 3rd rounds were pretty good, but the Avs didn’t capitalize on Ryan. That being said, the Avs’ current crop of top ten pick talents weren’t shoe-ins (none of the McDavid sure-fires to take away the drama). MacK wasn’t an auto number 1 and there were a few guys picked ahead of Rantanen at 10.
There are a few guys I can see potential in, but I’m not going to brag about them. But I like Sasha Mutala and Justus Annunen. Newhook doesn’t count.
Ever hear of Nick Boynton? He was the ninth overall pick in the 1997 NHL draft by the Capitals. They couldn't come to terms and Boynton reentered the draft in 1999 and was a first round pick by Boston. He had a decent career. The Caps on the other hand had nothing to show considering that Marian Hossa was selected three picks later in 1997.
Can you do a video about Olympic rosters?? Keep up the good work!
Do a 6th pick tier list, starting from 2000.
Probably Duncan Keith being drafted in the 2nd round. Or Alex DeBrincat because he is having a huge breakout year and has potential on being an elite scorer or maybe being a franchise player when Kane is gone
Recommendation: Best late round draft picks
I believe Zetterberg and Datsyuk are 7th and 6th round picks respectively
@@wellendowedbaker34leafs37 pavel bure
6:58 what about samsonov ????
Samsonov hasn’t proven himself at all. Wonder why vanaceck is the starter?
Jarret Stoll was drafted twice after a botched fax machine killed a deal to have him signed and traded to Toronto before the deadline. I was at the 2002 draft in Toronto, and the fans were livid when the Leafs drafted Alex Steen in the first round when Stoll was available, as he was thought to be NHL-ready.
Love ya man, I enjoy your content, can you do a video on Sidney Crosby without injuries?
Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Franzen, Osgood, Draper, do I go on?
Rob I have a video idea. Why did 14 teams pass on Matt barzal.
There was mcdavid and eichel that explains all
@@thesamuel0 but still. After all of them.
Pavel Datsyuk. Drafted 6th round and soon to be hall of famer
I think you should have to sign your entry level deal with the team that drafted you but after that you can sign wherever
Tim Brent was also drafted twice by the same team
The big question...if Ovi was just 2 days older and therefore eligible for the '03 draft. Would Florida have drafted him 1st OVR instead of trading the pick to Pit. I know they wanted him but would they have used a 1st overall pick on him in a stacked draft?
Pretty sure North American players can't do that if their bday is after September 15 because they will be 21 in that draft year and thus ineligible for that draft. Only non NA players are still eligible at that age.
Claude Giroux at 22nd overall.
The part that makes the Chouinard story hilarious is that the pick the sens drafted him in 2000 is the exact pick they got as compensation for not signing him originally.
WYM only Blackwood proved himself. Samsonov is the starting keeper for the top team in the East with awesome stats. Easily an amazing keeper draft from 2015.
It's easy to have good stats with a top team..louis domingue a few years ago for TBL when vasi was hurt..now he's in the AHL because he's not very good
Our greatest draft steal, I think, was Jason Spezza. Go Sens Go!
If you guys want to hear the story of Mathieu Chouinard told by himself in french:
ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/balados/8304/premiers-choix-histoire-hockey
Long story short; Ottawa Senators where kind of jerks to him after drafting him the first time.
only player i could remember before the vid started was mike zigomanis drafted originally by buffalo and picked up by carolina 2 years later
Victor Olofsson round 7
Do a video one the best draft classes and compare players their potential and what theyve accomplished so far
Ovechkin is a decent secondary scorer indeed.
The thing about Freddy Anderson is so ironic because he’s on the canes now
That chouinard guy looks like wreck it Ralph
I really like the drafting and the salary cap. It is ways to try and spread the talent among many teams and make more teams and more games competitive.
A 2 year right seems rather good imo.
The discussions here is between the rights of the trainer and the rights of the organisation. And here NHLPA is often doing a good job in helping players and their rights.
Which is kind of ironic, a socialistic system with a strong labour union in America.
For your next video can you do: Ranking the last 20 6th overall picks on a tier list?
Video idea: Best high risk GM moves that paid off
Nice cameo of the big heat daddy
do a video on the NHL teams with the worst total contracts. Like SJ, w/Burnsm Karlsson, Vlasic eating up a ton of their money.
For the most part the NHL draft appears to be as good as it can be for the good of the game. A player can roll the dice and refuse to sign forcing a trade or a reentry into the draft 2 years later. The NHLPA needs to continue to try and get the player free of the drafting team as quickly as possible. It seems each year the younger player coming off their 3 year entry deal are signing huge contracts.
Craig Anderson, Jarret Stoll and Matthew Lombardi
Do undrafted players if you haven't already
NHL teams should own the drafted players right as long as they offer a contract. The CBA makes it so that every team can competitively sign entry level contracts and not have to break the bank. It will be problematic when a 1st overall generational player refuses to sign with the team who takes them 1st overall and then a few years later goes elsewhere.
Once upon a time we over here in oil nation had a very good jared stoll
Alex DeBrincat, but what do I know he’s too small and will never make it to the NHL
Isn’t he playing rn🤣
@Tiberius 68 ikr🤣
@@runeskat1427 obviously I know Debrincat is playing it was a joke lmao
Players need to report to their teams period.
As of late Griffin Reinhardt for a 1st round pick which turned out to be Barzal. However, biggest steal has to be at 15th overall.......... Wait for it........ Mike Bossy!!!
Prolly kaapo kakonin or however you spell it, he’s a beast this year. Or guentzel obvi
Kähkönen :) my cousin, we’re super proud of him here in Finland 💪🏻🔥
6:16 easiest steak right there samsonov he’s been playing lights out
Habs greatest steal: Brandan Gallagher in the 5th round
Now cole caufiled
coach bleackley making another appearance in a yt video
Ryan Miller round 5
Calm down with the Freddy Anderson as "elite" lol
Can u do best 7th round picks in nhl history?
I just don’t want the NHL to trap players for 5+ years before they’re eligible for free agency. This is what the MLB does and it makes free agency such a bummer.
In today’s world, I’m not sure Mario Lemieux would have signed with the Penguins. They were not a desired team like one of the original six or the Islanders back then. Thank God he did. He made Pittsburgh a hockey town. Now, Pittsburgh is a good team to sign with.
My favorite team’s greatest steal in a draft is EASILY Henrik Lundqvist formerly of the New York Rangers. Not really related but seriously wanna wish him well in in his progress recovering from open heart surgery.
Heullybuck was such a steal for the jets, he was a 4thnround I believe and nobody knew who he was
7:20 Might wanna cut that out too
When a player is drafted, they should have the option to sign with the drafting team to play in the NHL or the minors for one year, or to not sign with them and not sign with anyone else until they can reenter the draft and be picked by another team. They should not be allowed to refuse to sign with the draft team and then turn around and sign with another team. This way the team "owns" them, but they can refuse to be "owned" by that team.
I'm not sure how that's different from the current system. Players already have to wait if they want to go to a different team, whether it's through re-entering the draft or signing as a free agent.
Draft picks should have to sign their entry level contract with the team that drafts them, after that it's the team's responsibility to get them to stay. Need parity in the NHL, it's good for the league. The player isn't bound to that team forever, just for the first 3 years
“He wanted nothing to do with the Ottawa Senators.”
Who does?
Really?? If u happened to get picked by Ottawa would u be that guy right now?
@@TheFitzy93 I know it’s still a NHL TEAM, like I would be grateful.
RTH: video idea, talented players that had their careers come to an abrupt end. (Think Nathan Horton)
Do a video on players that go to free agency and fail.
But mcdavid was crazy excited to join the oilers cause they brought in Gretzky to help out the organization but he was not as excited when chirelli the gm dragged the team down for 3-4 years after lol
my team’s greatest draft steal? rick dipietro
Chouinard is in my family!lol😂🤘
Boston and Curtis lazar + Taylor hall
Alex Debrincat definitely a steal
heatley was an overaged #2 overall he could of been drafted the previous year but did not enter because he knew of signing bonuses of 1st rounders , he was only projected as a pick in the 4th round i hear so waiting a year improved his bottom line . I was in attendance for this draft even embarassed mike milbury for trading the 3,4,5 picks of the 97 draft away in that draft , he traded ollie jokinen , roberto luongo and brewer . funny kevin lowe grinned at my comments .
If a player doesn't sign with their draft team and signs with another team, the signing team should have to pay the drafting team by giving up money and future first round picks.
Freddy was traded for draft picks and not players. it's like saying Wayne Gretzky was NOT TRADED for fiat currency but rather whatever it is that the Oilers did with that cash. Draft picks is money and thus why you failed to say such is odd because finding twisty ways to lie or to twist truth is uncool.