Downsizing a gaming PC without rebuying everything (70% smaller)
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size matters, and small is better. right guys ? right ? guys please
In that CASE, yes
@@aerdeth You should put more emphasis on "case" 😂
No big better
It's ok, it's average
That’s what my wife tells me.
Had an SFF-Time N-ATX case for over two years now, absolutely amazing. Can literally cram everything short of a massive radiator from a typical desktop in a case the size of a large box of cereal.
All the components laid next to each other looks so good, absolutely gorgeous build
I was just looking at SFF TIME. I’d LOVE to see a build in the MNLT.
Thanks for the build suggestion. I’m actually planning on building an ITX build with the Fractal Ridge once my Micro Center near me opens up but after seeing this video and case, I’ll just upgrade my mobo, cpu, cpu cooler and ram from AM4 to AM5.
I’ve been looking for something like this forever thank you for the video
I have this one in the backlog! Thanks Devin for covering this and doing a build! Hope it goes well for me lol. Gonna put a 4090 and an ITX mobo into with a 240 AIO. Just hope the SFX-L doesn't mess me up haha.
Hi Devyn, thank you for this awesome review, you really nailed everything and I have nothing to add except for the info about stock which is coming soon as the new batch is already in production :) Jakov from SFFtime
amazing for productivity builds. obviously cases are used to express ones self but with super ultra slim cases you can use the desk space for better things like your favorite RPG statues and collectibles.
finally a video about N-atx, i love this case, the form factor is awesome, i bought one for my pc, unfortunately my new power supply is so loud i don't know why (gonna be the last time I buy MSI power supply) and the downside of this kind of case is that it didn't help dissipate the sound
great case. love to see a company makes sensible decisions for masses.
The best price/performance point for PC parts comes in mAtx size. So having a small as possible case for these parts makes lots of sense.
i hope they make one even smaller for mAtx boards and small but accesible atx psu and gpus.
not everyone need 4 slot gpu. Most GPUs are 3 slots max.
I have this case. It could do with a few improvements but overall is good. Support for the NH-LS12sx77 is a bonus.
Another great video. Love the build!
Simple but genius way of thinking! I was looking at u atx mobos and small cases to avoid an itx build.
thanks, glad you like it :)
Can’t wait for a big case manufacturer to streamline this like Lian Li did with their A4-H20 relative to the Formd T1
Great vid... I'm slowly realizing my sweet spot is build's that are between 15L and 25L cases. A big atx is just not me.
This is really interesting and it's something I would like to do with my old build but I find the prices of these smaller atx cases absolutely crazy. 200$/€ for giving new live to an old build is just too much IMO.
Agreed but it's still far better than going off and buying itx versions of every component...
This video has given me some more interesting ideas, thank you.
Even though I'm mostly playing on consoles at the moment (for now...) My only concern for cases like these is that of the Dust factor. At the moment I'm looking at a Ryzen made CPU/GPU gaming PC. My setup will require me to fit a Series X, Bluray-player, 2 27" 1440p monitors, keyboard, mouse, set of speakers, and the future pc on top of a 6' x 2' work bench. That is the space and maybe, just maybe I might be interested in mounting the monitors to a movable arm set...as since I am in a basement environment dust is the secondary concern.
200$+ for this case is hella pricey tho.
Most SFF cases are expensive. They are low volume parts so economies of scale don’t really kick in. Add in that this is particularly niche because it supports ATX MBs and this price is less than one would expect. For this style of case
I have a feeling going with the dan case a3 is going to be cheaper because you probably only need to rebuy the matx motherboard and the case is only $70
all SFF cases are cash grabs except those that are 100% aluminum frames - those cases are actually worth the $$$
in this CASE, the price is right.
@@mitchy5994 damn sonnnnn
My god that's beautiful. has me rethinking the ridge i want
thanks, glad you like it :) we also have a smaller P-ATX that is closer in size to the ridge.
I've been thinking about a case like this for years lol, its nice to finally see the real thing
This is really intriguing as I’d love to have my pc take up less space but I kinda feel sentimental about my current build and am not ready to take it apart and ditch all the hard work I did for my rgb setup and cable management and ditch my arctic 280mm aio. Also I’m not sure my cpu will be sufficiently cooled by a low profile cooler. I’m running the 5800X with PBO enabled.
I used 5800x with lp coolers, no problem at all, cpu regulates itself.
Highly recommend AXP120 X67 with a 25mm thick fan if you can. Also a pair of 60-80mm fans drawing out the top should help too 🙃
its a 200 dolar case
I always wondered why cases for ATX are not like this. Why the PSU has to be at the bottom when it can be mounted beside the board. Vertical or horizontal GPU mount will still save space if you consider a mesh side panel for airflow. Bottom can be reserved for fans and top as well in horizontal GPU mount. Cases are overall too big, and should be downsized cause majority of people are not using them as a workstation or a heavy gaming machine.
i have picked up a P-ATX V1.1 that ive been using for awhile now... love the way SFF-time has improved it overtime but i am hoping that the itx / 3 slot combination will be enough that i wont have to redo a case in awhile
Need more of these videos
I'd love to see such a case made out of wood, for like a furniture HTPC
Just made a new PC just for emulator and smaller Steam games in my bedroom. Less than 3L case and it works like a charm, even added a wireless On/Off switch
its amazing i would say the only sad thing is you can't see the beauty components!
This case would be perfect for me since laying this in its horizontal orientation would allow ALL part fans to be blowing upward. Thats why I dislike the Fractal Ridge case cause the video card in horizontal would be blowing down.
Now....if SFFTime would make this a Mini-ITX case in similar fashion and hold a 3 slot GPU.....that would be amazing!!!!!
We are, new 7L U-ITX model coming out soon 👍
@@riba2233 Great news!! Hopefully within the next two months....and a black option =)
@@valcvetanoski9105 yes to both of those ;)
@@riba2233 Whats the staatus of the 7L U-ITX?
@@valcvetanoski9105 should be ready in 2-3 weeks :)
She told me only the big ones hurt
@@kumaSOevl i would crash out
15 L | Support for full sized ATX motherboards | 3 & 4 slot GPU | ATX power supply
Awesome case
But
Freaking sold out 😭
People keep in mind that overtime this pc gather more heat than a bigger case (which also gathers heat) so during the day the temp differences will get even bigger.
While the difference is only 10 degrees at the start of testing end of the day it could be 20 degrees.
(this would still be fine)
Doesn't work like that based on my testing.. It is a very well ventilated case.
@@riba2233 No I ment that most tests are done like -> Turn pc on -> run tests -> results.
But there are gamers that never turn off their pc. That was the point I was making. And in that case pun intended, this will perform worse than a bigger case.
This is just basic logic.
@@vento5314 I get what you are trying to say, just saying that it doesn't work like that with this case.
@@riba2233 Seems you are just against common sense then.
@@vento5314 I am not, this is just how things work, sorry
I got the P Atx I love having an atx mobo in such a small case
Recently did the same with a SGPC K66 Air case
50 liter behemoth? Bro did not grow up in the 90s/early 2000s.
Those were actual monoliths lol. So we're the monitors. No wonder we needed full on furniture for computers setups back then (I still use a CRT monitor)
Needa put my 900D on a diet 😅 That things gigantic!
It's a nice case but I did notice a buzzing sound in the noise level comparison.
The buzzing noise is coil whine. Since the larger case had more inner surface area and a glass side window, it likely muted it enough while the smaller case will amplify the buzzing noise. People notice this too when moving from aircooling to a fully custom water loop setup as the fans will run much lower and no longer hide the coil whine.
@@Kokinkun I thought it might have been but it was such a quick clip I wasn't sure. I appreciate the in depth explanation as I didn't know a lot of the possible causes. Cheers! 🍻
Great video, im looking for something like this because im bedridden and have very limited desk space on bed desk. I currently use a laptop thats 3 years old i just dont like that u cant upgrade it over time a small pc seems the way to go.
I see this case and wonder whether it could be side mounted underneath a desk?
"with, like, zero flex to them." 8:58 saying otherwise
because so many people are pairing a 14600K with a RTX 4080 Super. Interesting case, but would have been more impressive with the 14900K I am assuming you are actually running in your system. Also $200 is stupid crazy price. I'm using a Meshroom S with an 11900K and RTX 3070 and I love that case, it's more compact than the pizza box, but you can't do ATX PSU and the riser cable setup is crappy.
Fractal Terra for me!
You were able to find this case??? I was doing a build a month ago and couldn’t find it anywhere!!
We had stock on Sep 1st, sorry to hear you missed it but the next batch is already in production :)
What motherboard is that? It looks super clean and minimla
Waiting for that NanoQ!
Can you fit one solo liquid radiator fan that will detach the liquid tubes to the CPU? I’m just curious because they do sell a one liquid radiator fan that has a tube connected for the CPU. Maybe it’ll fit maybe at least one fan that only has liquid radiator on itmaybe a cool maybe just a good okay for the CPU better than a low profile CPU fan.
How much does it weigh? I am wondering if this is something I can implant into my often moving between multiple countries around the year lifestyle, replacing my laptop. I miss the higher performance of a desktop PC.
Around 1.6kg
@@riba2233 Really!? That cannot be true, right? I mean the whole PC, fully built with all the components. My laptop weighs 2.5 kg by itself or 3 kg with the power adapter. 1.6 kg for the case itself, sure. My concern is if I can take it with me as a cabin carry into an airplane multiple times a year.
@@RyanKry just the case of course :)
Get a huge suitcase and put your pc in it. This kinda size will easily fit.
Maybe reversing the fan on the CPU cooler could perform better
Blowing hot air from CPU all across the MB is not a good thing.
how did you keep your older PC dust free
No mesh filters for the panels? My PC wouldn’t survive with my two cats lol
I know it's ugly... But do you see any way to externally mount a 360 rad somehow?
I'll never get how they determine how they price cases.
The case is unique
No other case that small can support ATX motherboard and ATX PSU
Also it takes time and money to design something like that, and it's not cheap to precisely cut many aluminum pieces, so the price is acceptable
It's not for budget builds
U can get a decent 30$ big case if you're on a budget
CAD man hours + product design hours + mfg costs + advertising costs = product price.
they charge whatever their customers are willing to pay. That's how prices are determined. Prices have almost nothing to do with the cost of production, that's commie crap.
@@mvargasmoran they do in this case unfortunately ;) small batch and material used are the main reasons, it is impossible to compare manufacturing costs for something like this with average stamped thin metal cases.
brand, quality, design, amount of hours worked on it. many things to factor it. value is not always just the materials. The idea is worth something as well
What cooler would you advise to use on a 5900x?
all cases are sold out, guess ill have to wait months now
The temperture you got for the CPU is nothing as compared to the laptop cooling from my laptop for cinebench r23 i get 95 degree for i5 13450hx even when it came with pre-applied conductonaut liquid metal extreme.
It sucks that I can't find a small case to fit my Rx 7900 xtx xfx merc310 😢.
This one fits all current gpus as long as you use an itx mbo 😊
I checked the dimensions and no, the card is too Long for that case
@@Mobiletechvr it isn't, max length is 390mm, there are no cards that are so long. Your card is 344mm long so it fits no problem, it would even fit in our smaller P-ATX model :)
@@riba2233 so you saying that if I buy the case, I should not have any problem?
@@Mobiletechvr yes, this gpu is not that big so it will fit even with an atx mbo and atx psu :)
I always like something small because for me, I have the Lenovo Legion go it’s very small and port use as a desktop PC I don’t want to use a bigger size PC because I have no space for it
Honestly with all the fans pointing the same way, you could get away with wall mounting this
Can you do a build in the phantek shift xt please
If only I had the magical power of locating any of these amazing cases in stock... :sigh:
hi, they are coming back in stock soon and thanks, glad you like them :)
@@riba2233 don’t suppose you could share any dates, could you? Even a month of restock timing would be nice to know
@@jeffreyyates5296 new batch is is production, it usually takes 6-8 weeks but there might be a few black cases from the previous batch available soon
What GPU did you use? 4070 or 3080?
Nice video, and awesome case, if you could actually get one. I find that as the norm with all these niche cases, all kinds of videos promoting them, but you cant actually buy one.
You can when it's in stock 😊
9:21 nice overlay for monitoring, what do you use? And great video btw.
Case all sold out, and can’t find any on eBay… any suggestions?
Very nice👍👍
This would've been good to know BEFORE I downsized haha
is it possible to build a threadripper with this case?
Is there a way to expanded the pc overall amount of accessories to be added, i have a desktop pc and i want a slim pc case to add things that i need quick access too like controller ports or memory storage slots and disk drive
Anybody know what program is being used to display the system temps?
10:15 you did something wrong, why there is such difference in power draw for cpu?
@Devyn Johnston could please share which stats monitor(fps meter) you are using on the monitor? It's hella sexy.
what timing, i just built an ITX PC and want to downsize to an even smaller build.
This isnt the video for you then right? This is a mid size case for downsizing an ATX build. Look at Formd T1 or a4-h2o builds for a 10L itx build (this build is 15L).
If you have ITX components, you could go for a 10L case, like the Fractal Terra or smaller, like a Velka 7 (7L).
Getting the gpu into that cable is a super pain the the butt
it's not available :(
If only cases like these were in stock more lol
I stand corrected, I ordered mine the other day.
What is it with everyone using Intel CPUs
my 13900k died after 6 months because it was oxidized (confirmed through my RMA), and these MFs tried to make me wait 3+ months for a replacement. I got a refund and bought a 9950x, couldn't be happier the chip absolutely screams. I still have a 14900k but it's not nearly as snappy in windows as the 9950x is, and it's actually slower in gaming AND productivity (I do Blender and Unreal Engine).
10:53 no link in the description.
ncc.noctua.at/cpus
sold out.
Is there any other case I could try this on?
Don't say you came from zach's tech Truf
Truf💀💀💀
can this case fit a 90 degree angle riser cable?
No intake FAN for better airflow ??
no need since cpu and gpu coolers are right against the perforated side panels so they get fresh air directly :)
what backpack is that?
Where do I get a motherboard cover like his mother board??
He's using the NZXT motherboard, I don't think they make it anymore.
What's the length of your 12VHPWR cable?
What backpack is that?
How many pc’s do you have >:o???
How does he get them stats on the screen like that
I have a video on it here: th-cam.com/video/rRF6lW45c4c/w-d-xo.html
For anyone considering purchasing this case, I've had one and there are a lot of things that aren't discussed in the video. Availability is horrible. When they go in stock, good luck getting one. I was verrry lucky to get mine. The shipping time is really long. Literally months. I believe it took 3 months to get to me in the US. GPU support for horizontal configurations is really flimsy, so plan on supporting the GPU weight some other way. Price is incredibly steep for a case that in my opinion does not look that good. Check out the Meshroom if you have an ATX board. You'll need an SFX power supply, but with the price you save over buying this case it's a no brainer. Better availability, cheaper price, faster shipping options, and your GPU will actually be secure.
Forgot to mention the maker of these cases (goes by the name riba on Reddit) doesn't care to help you out in any way. He has a huge ego issue and will only point the blame at you. I brought up how the GPU could have been supported better and all he did was disagree instead of offering solutions.
@@4x4forlyfe I always help as much as I can (far more than the norm), and longer shipping time was unfortunately a norm back then due to pandemlc. It is 5-14 days at most nowadays. I appreciate the feedback, but let's stick to facts.
@@riba2233 I don't know how you can get more factual than someone literally buying the product, building in the product, and testing the product. Exactly what I was referring to in my previous comment that you don't take criticism well. Thank you for proving my point.
@@4x4forlyfe like I've said, I always provide the best customer service I can and the vast majority of my customers would probably agree. I am really not sure why you have such an opinion, I offered help as I always do (and I take criticism when it's valid ofc).
if it could accomadate an aio it would be perfect
Where do i find this 90 degree AC power cable ?
I wish it wasn't sold out all the time 😅
what monitoring software are you using for in game temps?
I have a video on it here: th-cam.com/video/rRF6lW45c4c/w-d-xo.html
My dream pc is in a 4L case but I’m wayy too broke to build one 😭
Its a nice case but for this price range + performance I'd personally grab a formd T1.
YEY, this is exactly what I need THX.
Ryzen 9 7900x temps?
Very interesting. Thank you.
you forgot to transfer the white fans to the new case🤣🤣