How do you know which part of the song it is?

Recognizing where a lick fits within a song's structure is critical to shortening your learning curve as an improviser. Without this ability, you won't be able to apply ideas you learn from other players. Here are two simple yet powerful techniques to help you pinpoint key sections in songs-like turnarounds in a 12-bar blues-so you have more context for licks you discover in recordings. This will help you unlock some mysteries of musical context and enhance your understanding of where a lick belongs within the form of a tune (in this case, a 12-bar blues).
What's your biggest challenge when it comes to identifying song sections? I’d love to hear from you in the comments below.
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0:00 Introduction
1:30 The Importance of Recognizing Song Sections
3:42 Technique 1
7:20 Technique 2
10:00 Applying These Techniques
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Bob Reynolds is an American jazz saxophonist and 3x Grammy Award-winning member of Snarky Puppy. He's toured with John Mayer, Larry Carlton, and many others and released 12 solo albums-4 of which reached the Top 10 in Billboard's Jazz Charts. A pioneering educator, Bob has coached thousands of musicians through his innovative Virtual Teaching Studio bobreynoldsmusic.com/studio. He is a D'Addario Woodwinds artist and lives with his wife and kids in Los Angeles, CA.
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[@TheTrombonism]

When I was in college learning jazz music my listening lab was the tape player in my buddies ‘89 Bonneville. We spent hours pouring over various recordings and discussing them. It was a special time.

[@bobreynolds]

that's what I'm talking about. 🤙 can't get that from any other modality/experience

[@It.wasnt_me]

My sax teacher used to say, "Think of analysing music like a babushka doll, start big and get smaller".
Start with the form, and open it up from there. I still do that today.

[@alonzochurch6398]

matroyshka doll, but yeah, great analogy

[@jonathandollin8604]

Hi Bob, Thanks. I just spent a discouraging 2 hours driving to my work place, like a lot of musicians significant time driving too and from work is a regular part of my week. Thanks for the reminder that without the drive time I wouldn’t have all the professional development time that I currently do have. Really timely, thanks again :)

[@Saxman33]

Love this video

[@ginabean9434]

Over here, musicians don't learn in cars. They can't afford to own one anymore...

[@yoav1238]

At 6:30 you mention that Doxy is a 16 bar blues. Could you break that down for me cause I'm lost.

[@bryandickerson5365]

Great reminder, Bob! I guess I took the idea of listening at every opportunity, ESPECIALLY while driving, for granted. Now, however, I find it hard to get my students to do the kind of listening you’re talking about. I remember places all over the country paired with music I was listened to while driving or riding on the G. Miller band bus listening to my Sony Pro Walkman (THE top choice listening device for ‘80s road musicians!). Parks Highway in Alaska - Horace Silver, Denton to Dallas - Milestones, Arizona - Rickie Lee Jones, Poconos - Joni Mitchell ‘Hejira’, Nebraska - Bobby McFerrin, Yukon Territory - Cont Basie w/ Frank Sinatra and on and on. All the while pondering musical concepts of form, balance, ensemble playing, soloing etc, etc. I tell my students that if they have to make a choice between listening and taking lessons from me - no brainer - do the listening. Thanks again, man!

[@scott7695]

Jacksonville (more specifically Orange Park, Lakeside Jr. High, Mr. Layton) still loves you Bob! I knew you were here just looking at the trees around the highway 🙂

[@Yakushii]

You know that feeling when you idolize someone, and then you see them filming and driving?

[@AltheSplinebender]

Even worse - driving and analyzing song forms!

[@kwootamuckbear9294]

☮️Thanks🎶🎵🎶🎷…Nice shades 😎

[@samuelbrown434]

Hahahaha I knew exactly where this was going as soon as you said “I want to introduce you to one of the most important classrooms.” As someone who lives in a city with one of the worst traffic ratings I fully embrace drive time as learn time. I’m always listening in the car. Sometimes just singing songs that I think are good for my melodic development and other times singing along with my “transcribe” playlist.

[@jeremybridle1529]

Bob you are my absolute idol but filming a video in one hand while in the fast lane... 🙄come on man

[@dennissax]

Interesting! I found I had a familiar experience when I studied in my college.
I needed to drive 3 hours to my college then go back to my home 3 times a week. I only got a CD player in my car so I bought some Antonio Hart, Roy Hargrove, Chet baker and Coltrane’s albums and played them on the road. Because my player was a little broken when changed albums, so I rarely changed when drove and listened one album again and again. That made me memorize almost every detail in the music and sing everything without playing the album😂

[@bobreynolds]

@@dennissax Yes! This is the way.

[@davidwood351]

You say thank you to the navigation in your car?
I thought I was the only one who does that…

[@scott7695]

Also enjoyed watching the close captioning translate your skat singing to "Buddah Buddah Buddah" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@eskimobrochacho8918]

Hey Bob I've been listening to some Lou Donaldson and Jimmy Heath who both did mostly original tunes on their records. Any recommendations for how to figure out changes on songs outside of what's on something like ireal or a realbook?

[@creepingequinox7359]

This is a good question that I also struggle with

[@hayfordfrempong6369]

I really want to you to be my new Saxophone teacher Mr. Reynolds I’m a fan of your music

[@c.l.4895]

Speed Trap Blues- one turn-around to avoid!

[@bobreynolds]

LoL