Budget Sleeping Pads VS Pro Pads
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- Sleeping pads for camping, are budget pads worth it or are the more expensive pads a better investment. here we look at some klymit sleeping pads and thermarest pads and others comparing some features to see if budget camping gear is really worth it or not.
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Two mistakes: Too much focus on 4 seazon pads. The vast majority of people are 3 season hikers.
- no confomfort testing.
Otherwise how can you tell if budget pads are ok ?
I applaud you for giving us multiple comparisons and and the upsides and downsides of each. You really do great reviews my friend. Happy Friday!
Thanks alot for enjoying 😊
Glad you did this. It gives people an idea of durability ,warmth, and price.
Thanks, glad it was helpful
For myself, as you get older you like to be more comfortable as sleeping on the ground can cause achiness. I went with the Thermarest NeoAir XLite and never looked back. I've gone through Klymits and more budget models, but they don't compare.
Absolutely 👍😊
Amen
So happy to support some Canadian content!
Thanks a lot 🇨🇦
I wish I had watched this post before I pick up two other pads first😩😩 Finally just bought the best and use it year around.👍👍👍
I’ve always been in the camp of “buy once, cry once” but it should be prefaced by making sure it’s something you are interested in and enjoy. You don’t want someone having hundreds (thousands) of dollars worth of gear only to find out they hate it or don’t have the time.
I agree, great information 👍😊
100%. First pad I bought was a $300+ Neoair x therm. It was too narrow, uncomfortable and noisy. Tried out an inexpensive Static V and loved it. I now have 2 other Klymit pads lol.
Xtherm is fantastic for warmth, but it is just too thin. I bought it and then returned to Moosejaw because my hips would always dig Into the ground.
Have a Exped Downmat UL LW now. The 3.5" of depth makes for a very comfortable night sleep.
Just sat down thankyou mate 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hope you enjoy 😁🤙
Great video. I'm a warm weather camper, so the Unigear Camfy P3 suites my needs just fine. At $29 US, I can replace it 8 times before I regret not buying the Therm-a-rest and hoping I don't have to replace it once.
bought my therm-a-rest 30 years ago and I still use it! bought the updated version(lighter) of my old therm-a-rest 4 years ago and I still use that one too
They are excellent products
Happy Happy 60000Subscribers!!🤩
Thank you very much 😊😊😊
Great summary there of those pads, also good price spectrum chosen. So there is quite a pad for every budget and usage covered. Good point with the replacement costs having kids or pets.
Maybe you might want to consider to precisely name every pad (or other products in upcoming reviews/introductions) in the video description. That way its easier to follow and do some research after your video, or maybe even during the video for price or availabilty check.
Thanks for your work and sharing!
Thanks alot, glad you enjoyed it
Very informative. I'm looking forward to the Klymit video.
Thank you
Dying to see the next video with your details on the Klymit pads. I have the regular one and the insulated one and really love them. I use the insulated one primarily for shoulder season. I have the Thermarest luxury map pad that I use for winter. I also use the Z-lite Sol that I use with the luxury map.
Its gonna be an informative video for sure
@@Lonewolfwildcamping hope it’s not all bad news... now that I’m retired I’m on a fixed income, lol!
A mix of good and bad
I have a bit of a different situation than the average backpacker, as I have myself and several dogs in my tent. Myself and the oldest dog tend to be cold sleepers. It has taken a while to find a system that works for us in chilly AB rockies nights.
I use 2 mats side by side, with a 2 person bag. That way, we are all comfy, and there is room in the bag to stuff cold dogs inside the bag with me (or give me something warm to snuggle if I am cold!)
I started with the non-insulated Klymit pads. Comfy, but not warm enough for me unless it is a crazy warm night.
I picked up 2 of the Xtherm Max pads. Ouch on the price, but worth it for warm and comfort! It is warm enough that I can use a slightly warmer temp bag (options are so much more limited for 2 person bags light enough to backpack with) I have one of the dogs carry the two Xtherm pads in her saddlebags (can fit 1 on ea side perfectly!) So that is not even weight for me to carry haha
Good vid 👍🏼 I can state that I have at least 5 years on my klymit V2 and have never had a problem with quality or punctures. Just one instance where a quarter-inch sized ember went straight through my hammock and pad which is obviously a me problem and not the pad, the repair kit was garbage after 4 years of life inside the pack sleeve. I have been eyeballing the insulated version of it (that you have there), but I have been looking the thermarest's and S2S's just to try out a different design, and to go with something different. Regardless, highly recommend the Klymit brand.
You should really try a down underquilt
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I want to, will one day just looking for the right one still. Just lose out on some versatility with that. Where If I find a perfect spot without trees, a mattress and tarp alongside the bike will work, whereas the underquilt would force me to go look for trees. One day I'll buy one since I know it will be tenfold more comfortable.
You really know your stuff. Brilliant video thank you 🙏🙏
Thank you
Great video as always. I picked up the klymit static v on sale and combined it with my Nemo accordian closed cell for this past winter camping. -12 C worked very well. Can't fathom spending 300 on a pad when I love and sleep better in my hammock. Looking forward to your klymit video though.
P.s. below -15 C not my thing anyway.😆
Thanks for enjoying, klymit video coming soon
just found your page and as soon as you said canadian i subscribed
keep up the great content
Thanks so much, enjoy 🇨🇦😁
Thanks for making this video
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Thanks for a great video😉 I have Exped downmat tt 9 on my wintertrip. The safest inflatable in my opinion. It has six separate tubes, for punk you can replace the broken tube.
Awesome review. Spending good money after bad is dumb but I've done it many times.
I guess it all comes down to what you can afford and how much use will you get out of the item.
If you camp more than 5 or 10 times a year then go for the more expensive thing. It'll cost you much less in the long run and you'll prolly enjoy yourself more.
Looking forward to the next vid.
Absolutely, all In cost and how much you use it
I'm a hammock camper that is just getting into backpacking/tenting for more options. (previously car camping with a tent and cot befor the hammock camping) I was going to go with an inexpensive pad to get started and then save up for a better one expecting to beef up the cheap pad warmth with a wool blanket and a wool lined waxed groundcloth. However, I lucked out and was able to get a Thermarest NeoAir Camper on clearance with an mini powered air pump. Haven't tried it outside yet, but the 3" mattress has been very comfortable on the floor. I know it's a little heavy for backpacking, but I don't expect to be carrying it more than a couple miles.
Sounds great, I hope you like it and it works for you
Interesting comparison. Like most people I started off with the Keri mat then upgraded to a thermarest x3 then an Exped down filled mat. The thermarestks are still serviceable many yrs later but the Exped has sadly has given up. I’ve bought a couple of “budget pads since, one of which is similar to your blue pad and I’ve found it works really well.
I miss my exped down mat 😪😪
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I like the look of the Klymit Klymaloft Sleeping Pad XL, not cheap at £200, any thoughts?
Looks great for truck camping but expensive.
Great video Jeremy. I think one would have to also analyze the"cold weather" factor in selecting a pad. If one is not going winter camping the top end might be over kill on the budget. Then again as you know coming from BC even in summer if you're in the mountains it can get bloody cold some nights Lol! I have been considering getting a lighter more packable pad - missed a great deal on 2 sea to Summit pads (both for $100! used only once by a young couple). but there ya go. Have 2 old school self inflating Thermarest pads which are awesome but they are quite bulky even when fully "packed" .
Anyway as usual tons of information. Thanks and looking forward to the next video
The temps can definitely change without warning, lots of options available on the market for sure
Hi Jeremy, I have the original Therma Rest Neo Air X-Therm which is really nice. About a month ago, I got a stupendous deal on the Neo Air Max $169 (U.S.) on Amazon. I also have the Ridge Rest Solite foam pad that I usually always bring along to help protect my inflatables. I've always put the foam pad underneath the air pads, like you, paranoid of getting a puncture in the air mattress. Never thought of putting the Ridge Rest on top of the Neo Air. I would try to get the best mattress also, that can make or break your trip if you're not comfortable.
I thought about getting a Klymit pad for summer, the design looks comfortable especially with the side rails.
Thanks for the video 👍🏕
Thanks, glad you are enjoying your mattress, comfortable sleeps are very important outdoors
I have a Therma Rest Mondoking 3d which is the cat's ass for truck camping but not great strapped on the back of a kayak. Looking at a prosumer version from Cabelas for around $150 for the summer months I think.
That's a beautiful pad for truck camping. I may have to get one for my truck also 😊👍
Thank you so very much for all info.🙏
Thanks
Love it man thanks so much for the info I have always wondered
Thank you
Klymit sells inflation sacks on their web site... great vid young man! 🙂
Thanks for the information
Another great informative video. Thanks for sharing. Here in the UK we do not experience really low temps, typically rarely below minus 5C in the depths of winter but we do have plenty of wind, rain and high humidity (95%+) at times which really saps the heat from the body. I'm curious as to what true R value would be considered suitable for our winters here. More the better I assume.
For your temps I believe an r value of 4 would be comfortable
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Thanks, really appreciate the reply.
No worries 😊👍
Inflation bags for the klymit mats are available from klymit and cheaper alternatives are on ebay, I have the insulated static v and sl models, Still a good video on the different types available and price ranges, keep it up 👍👍
Thanks alot for enjoying. Great that there are pump sacks available now
Mindblowing!!! I can't imagine spending 200 or 300 for a sleep pad! I can't see the value outside of durability concerns. I think sometimes folks equate price with performance, and that's not always the case.
This pad keeps me very warm in winter below -20⁰c with just one pad. Well worth it for me
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Living in the south a lot of folks call me crazy for camping when the temp gets below 40 degrees. If i had to deal with those sorts of temps, I imagine it may be worthwhile. Either way, thanks for the great and informative content! Be safe!
Great video! My only gripe with inflatable pads is the crinkle noise. Evidently i move alot in my sleep and it wakes me soI ended up with a thermarest Z-Lite and still use Neo Air Trekker but mostly the Z-Lite.
Thanks, oddly enough the noise never bothers me as I'm asleep and don't hear it 🤙😊
@@Lonewolfwildcamping The weird think is i usually sleep like a rock at home but never in the woods. Love the videos!
I'm opposite, sleep good outdoors but not great at home 🤷♂️
Like sleeping on a bag of potato chips, drives me nuts every time I move.
🤣🤣 you must be a light sleeper?
a cheap pad + thick foam pad is all you need. feeling the heat radiating form the thermarest is avesome tho.
Yes, that works well.
My problem with the Neoair since the beginning of the Neoair series, is that the fabric is very loud. You can even hear it in the video when you touch it. If my tent partner has a neoair I already know I am in for a sleepless night, whenever they move I wake up by the sound (I am a light sleeper).
The fabric is not noisy, the mylar inside is what makes the noise, for me it is not a problem because I'm asleep and don't hear anything
Ear plugs
For a camping lover..pro.. for someone that is just starting and might not do it as much the cheaper one.. and sell it after if you go on a regular
😊 a great example
Looks like a Aquaquest Defender series tarp doubling as a table cloth talk about versatile lol
Definitely durable 😁👍
Nice!
Thank you
Thank You. NeoAir® XTherm™ MAX Sleeping Pad all the way
I have the original Ridge-rest - I think it was < $30 CDN when I got it. It replaced a blue foamy that I paid < $10 from many many years ago. :)
As I get older, I need more pad. A closed cell and an inflatable for comfort. Don't know what I mean? Soon you will once you hit 50.
Edit: the current reflective Ridge-rest is only $40 CDN not the $75 you claim.
On the Klymit pads, I have seen people use the V-sheet on the pad to seal in the air pockets, then also use the V-sheet's straps to hold a closed cell foam to the bottom of the pad. This gives you from bottom up: a rigid foam pad, the Klymit inflatable, and the V-sheet for a winter system. The V-sheet also has a pocket to insert an inflatable pillow and it stays in place. As a SYSTEM, it can be better than one pad alone. In the winter, if you are pulling a sled, the extra weight doesn't mean much. I haven't tried yet.
I hear ya, after 6 nights in the woods it starts to get uncomfortable
Hey ! You didn’t mention the pro of the pro being pack a very thin light quilt or bag in the summer .
To give you an idea of the cost of a thermarest pad, I spent 15 dollars on a roll up pad similar to the one you have. I spent 40 dollars on a duck down sleeping bag rated for 25 degrees, and I spent 50 dollars on a 3 lb tent that is fully waterproof. That's what I camp with comfortably down to about 30 degrees, which is as cold as I care to camp. Total cost 85 dollars. With my 55 dollar pack, 140 dollars. That's been a few years back and I'm sure it's more expensive, but still, you can buy affordable gear for not very much money and enjoy it just as much. It's camping and it's supposed to be a little rough. My pad never punctures even sleeping with my dog and keeps me plenty warm. I did buy a larger tent for about 65 dollars or something that weighs about 5 lbs because I get kind of claustrophobic in my 3 lb tent.
If I were a beginner or a 2 or 3 season camper I might purchase one of the more budget options but as a 4 season camper most definitely the pro version.
I'm in the same boat as you 😊👍❄
To me comfort and quality is worth the extra money, at the same time even the budget pads seem kinda costly, for me this time of year I'd go with the 1st pad along with bulky thermarest the save up for the top dollar thermarest.
Buy the best you can afford
Why didn’t I see you last year when I was researching. I already have two entry/mid level pads.
What is a good all-weather pad for car camping? I sleep very warm but plan to do most of my camping in the cooler temps. I will have a heart source. I just don’t want to need tow pads, one for cool weather, one for warm weather.
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Good to know
Thank you
Did you happen to get the 3 cup Imusa espresso maker yet ? I just got the single cup AND the 3 cup today. You will really like it. I can't wait to try mine.
Yes, I have a 1 and 3 cup
Hi would use a roll out mat and a blow up on top had them puncture in the past 👍🏴
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Another reason the thermarest might be more cost effective is you might get away with lower rated cheaper sleeping bag when using the thermarest
Absolutely a very good point
Klymit pads made sense when they cost less a few years back.. not so much now.
Always thought they were good middle ground pads, much better than the cheapos but not as good as the top end. Oh well. Unless they significantly improve their insulated pads.. I've moved on. This is also coming from someone who runs a Non-insulated Klymit Static V Luxe (wide version of the static v) for spring and summer. Bought it back when it was like $70. For that price it was a great value. Doesn't hold up to my ether light XT but for $70 I don't expect it to. Has lasted a solid 2.5 years of regular use as well so all around I'm happy with it. Their insulated pads though, are heavier glorified 3 season pads at the most.
I've got a number of pads, Thermarest, Klymit, and others. My Thermarest is an older model, R2.2. My Klymits are both insulated and non, but in field testing, the insulated ones are clearly lying about their R value, as they couldn't come close to the old, tired, flat top Thermarest. For winter camping, using a second pad with an insulated Klymit pad is a requirement. Klymit claims r4.4, and I'll bet my hiking shoes it's less than half that on an ASTM test. Their pads are comfortable, but not at all as insulating as they claim. Fine for summer and warmer spring and fall nights. Nothing else.
I totally agree the r values are totally not true on the klymit pads. I have a video explaining this coming very soon
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Thanks. I'm hopeful the ASTM R values on the stuff sacks are closer, but I'm still suspect of those. Fingers crossed.
PSA on the Klymit pads; I purchased a Klymit Insulated Static V with it's claimed R-value, BUT on the stuff-sack to the pad itself it says: "Four Season Sleeping Pad, 4.4 R-Value (1.9 ASTM F3340-18)" 4.4 is their OWN rating, while the 1.9 R-value is the standard that MOST OTHER companies test with. Sent it right back, no thanks.
Yup, I explain in great detail the disappointment of klymit r value claims in a future episode
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Good! 😊 You have the ability to spread the word on that. Cheers :D
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I will second my disappointment. COmpared head to head with ASTM rated pads, the Klymit numbers just don't make sense. As an engineer, I see it as nothing less than false advertising. Details in my own comment.
Thanks, its all about sharing 👍
Klymit pads can not be trusted with the r value ratings
I use a hammock to camp with most of the time if not I’ll use my static v with a light weight cot
Gotta love hammocks
I don't have a sleeping pad. I just have a fleece blanket.
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You don’t winter camp then
@@plebpunk Yes I do. I even posted on my winter (snow on the ground) minus 15 overnight temp weekend winter trip.
Wait didnt u say ur breath would cause ice crystal and damage it over time? Just discovered page so maybe its in another video. :)
Yes, only in winter
What kind of ground pad do you buy to put underneath in order to protect the NeoAir XTherm?
One thing that I am curious about, that people rarely touch on...Would it be unbearably warm using the insulated pad in the summer? If you invest all the money in a warm pad, is it un usable in the hot months when it can already be very hot outside?
I wonder if using the pro pad in hot weather would just make you even hotter on those warm nights
Good question, the thermarest x therm us a very unique construction , it does reflect heat and block cold. It could be too warm for some people
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So two good closed cell pads would be bomb proof keep you warm and save you money and would last a life time
Is the NeoAir XTherm too hot to use in the summer?
Would love to know about the tarp you had overhead. Thank you.
Thats the Easthills outdoors dragon fly
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I tried to order a Dragonfly tarp from Easthills through their website, wouldn't ship to Canada. I contacted Easthills to ask why, and they apologized saying they were no longer making it available in Canada. Not sure what the issue is or was.
Strange, not sure why they won't sell in Canada?
What's your reasoning for placing the foam on the inflatable rather than vice versa?
Because the foam immediately reflect your body heat back towards the body rather than passing through the inflatable and cooling before reaching the foam. Works great for winter
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I put the rigid foam down first to protect the inflatable from poky things. :)
Would makea difference on where are planning on camping?
Yes, location makes a big difference
You get what you pay for with sleeping pads. I agree to just spend the money and buy a thermarest
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Before I've even watched I'm going to agree with whatever you say about that Klymit Static V insulated, it's a sheep in wolf's clothing, they shouldn't be allowed to market it the way they do. 😕🤔
Definitely agree with you
@@Lonewolfwildcamping The thing is even if they were honest about the R value, it would still be a very affordable good quality 3 season pad 🤷♂️
Incidentally they do sell a weird tube sack inflator thing, it's on the website. 👍🏼
3 season use is about as far as I would push it
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Agree 💯
Klymit just launched a new pad, the Static V Luxe XXXL. That is probably what they sent you.
🤣🤣🤣 no... that was an April fools joke 🤦♂️
@@Lonewolfwildcamping wow! I didn’t even notice the date. Duh d duh! 🤪
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Glad you this ideas good👍🇵🇰
Thank you
How is the Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XTherm MAX for 6ft 240 pound side sleeper?
You would have to check the website for weigh limits
Do you have the large ridgerest?
Yes
@@Lonewolfwildcamping thanks a bundle
Closed foam cells dont last a lifetime. Max 3 years, after that they lose like half of insulation.
Strange I use many mine all the time for over 8 years and its still going strong , even camping 4 days a week all year
@@Lonewolfwildcamping guess mine are worse quality and i really abuse them, because i take them to alpine desert area, where i cant really afford for inflatable mat to fail and all environment is basically sharp stones, and then, because they cant fail, i use them as seatmat, kneel mat, enjoy the view mat, all that on rocks, and they eventually die.
Desert rocky area could definitely shorten the lifespan for sure
Is it comfortable to use Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm also in the summer or you will be sweating on it in warm months?
Yes, good for both , only hot with sleeping bag
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Yes to both?😁
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@@Lonewolfwildcamping Thx🤙👍
What would a spark do to that thermarest?
Melt it just like the rest, best to keep it inside a tent away from fire
When it comes to sleeping gear, it needs to be reasonably quiet when changing positions.
Personal choice i guess
There's too much to pads to put into ONE video truly... My sister uses Klymit.... I'm in the process of trying out ALL different pads. Right now for WINTER I've been using the Lightspeed Outdoors off Amazon that is rated R9.4 I believe. It's a good WARM pad and truly SELF INFLATING... it's BIG AND BULKY BUT WARM and WORTH it and in winter i tote in my gear on a sled anyway....so no big deal.. same reason I use Synthetic Sleeping Bag with TUBE insulation as it can be DRIED... My favorite PAD of all time was a pad called The Equalizer by Design Basics....which has separate pockets for each area of your back and two different materials that wouldn't slip.. it was about a pound and a half but was TRULY self Inflating and it was around LONG before the R system but I'd guess it was around an R4 to R5 rating. It lasted me 27 YEARS... it was a spectacular pad.... I owned like 5 or 6 thermarest pads before that and EVERY ONE of them leaked so I haven't trusted Thermarest since.... Although I'm sure they've gotten better.. but when inflatable pads first came out they were a NIGHTMARE!!!!! When my Design Basics pad finally went for a dump, I've SINCE been experimenting with MANY types of pads.... The one with the inflatable tiny pockets your cheap pad I own a similar version called Echo Teck Outdoors Ultralite and it lasted about 3 years before it sprung a leak, so for the 50 bux it truly wasn't worth it for a lousy three years. The Lightspeed Outdoors pad was pad of the year repeatedly and it HAS stood up well, over 4 years so far and I've slept on it LOTS and LOTS. My only complaint with it, is that it kind of indents the foam on the inside with excessive use....But I have used it for nearly 3 years straight, and it has been a pretty impressive pad with my abuse......it has worked like a champ and I'd recommend it. Recently I just purchased a Nemo Tensor for my summer pad and I'm in the process of testing it out. It is comfortable enough, but I find it a little slim. I got the full sized long and wide square mattress that has an R1.5 rating for summer, spring and fall. I'm sure it will be a little COOL for shoulder seasons BUT I have a real warm sleeping bag so no worries, I use the pad more for comfort in spring summer and fall than warmth, unlike winter where I require the HUGE insulation. I am planning on getting the Sea To Summit this fall as they came out with a mid R6 rated pad to up the insulation in their Etherlite pad (I believe it's like a 6.4 or 6.7 but mid 6's for sure) but it's weight seems a little HIGH but I've been meaning to try out the Etherlite as it seems to get good reviews and IS a bit thicker and doesn't bottom out much like the Nemo Tensor... I did look extensively at the Nemo Quasar 3D which was a real comfy pad but when you get the insulation in it, it's still above 2lbs and is a bit bulky in comparison to the Tensor. But it has a feature to center you in the pad that's nice and a slight elevation working up to your head that seems to add a bit of comfort. So for car camping or short distance in camping it would be a good Nemo option. I'm holding out for the Sea to Summit Etherlite EXTREME tho, as it looks good. Material is black so the dampness that seems to accumulate under pads will dry fast in even limited winter sun, it's still a bit heavy BUT winter i use a sled anyway like I said earlier so no big deal with an extra pound here or there.. I actually use an Adult GT snow racer and strap everything to my pack.. then strap my pack to the GT snow racer in winter which gives me a bit of a ski effect AND i ride it downhill and pull it uphill with steering which is nicer than pulling PULK type sleds that so many use.....that of course have a mind of their own at what direction they travel. Far more beneficial in winter to use the Adult GT snow racer if you can fit your gear on it....get a bag that fits it and you can use it to transport firewood too in a wood style bag... I'm a long long long term camper and an ex boy scout of course as well as a self declared outdoorsman and my gear is extensive of course.....weight in SOME circumstances HELPS so DRAMATICALLY that it doesn't ALWAYS matter.... When down bag users are trying to dry their sleeping bags around the fire they all of a sudden REALIZE why some guys use synthetics when they're shivering all night... the extra two pounds doesn't matter in those circumstances when things get REAL wet.... Although I do use down SOMETIMES too depending on WHERE I'm going....but here in Ontario by the great lakes things can get REAL REAL REAL damp... If I'm going out West to the mountains, then yes you can use Down as the snow is REAL dry at elevation for whatever reason.... Out East you guys get a considerable amount of moisture too, so I'm a bit surprised you use down so much... Although I do understand guys who use the Western Mountaineering Gore Wind Stop fabric as it's almost like a gore tex immitation that does work in damper conditions with down... I'm going to be testing a Sea to Summit down bag with their down dry system shortly as well as it's on my next purchase list to test out and I'll be putting up a gear review on my shitty little channel of some of my gear shortly.....I don't put much up... but I do test TONS of gear, of course. Like most long term campers do...I'm not a fan of the Thermarest Xtherm just because of the CRINKLE CRINKLE..i tell guys using them, YOU ARE SLEEPING AWAY FROM ME!!!!! I like the SILENCE when I camp and hearing the loons instead of the loonies...lol... Great Video's Lonewolf... keep them coming..... you do a fine job. Hats off....
The benchmark I use is If the U.S. Army uses it, that's what I'm getting
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Yeah going with a pro would be a better option
🤙 much better
just like tools, you only wanna buy em once
I agree 👍😊
Good video!!! Review channel I say....
Thanks, definitely not a review channel
@@Lonewolfwildcamping You should start one 😬
Might be a good idea 👍👍