The BEST and WORST sleeping pads of 2023
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Thermarest Uberlite bit.ly/3PQcuIL
Thermarest Xtherm Max bit.ly/3GIXTur
Klymit Static V Lite Insulated bit.ly/3t6jh7a
Big Agnes Rapid SL
Sea To Summit Ether Light Extreme bit.ly/3jH9osb
Nemo Tensor Insulated bit.ly/2L0E8pL
Other Awesome Gear:
Big Agnes Copper Spur Platinum
Big Agnes Fly Creek Carbon
Mountain Hardwear Ozonic Rain Jacket bit.ly/3tQ01vN
Black Diamond Spot Headlamp bit.ly/3HpqzZv
Helinox Chair Zero bit.ly/3HybcOg
Thermarest Compressible Pillow bit.ly/3hGKPsp
Sea to Summit Alto TR2
Jetboil Micromo bit.ly/32JOgfh
MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe bit.ly/3FFMf2e
Hyperlite Mountain Gear Southwest Backpack bit.ly/3ED3jV6
Western Mountaineering Alpinlite bit.ly/3zqFrT5
Kelty Cosmic Down 20 (less expensive alternative) bit.ly/3sUwCOI
Nemo Tensor Insulated Pad
Thermarest Uberlite Pad bit.ly/3mOBrbc
Hyperlite Mountain Gear bit.ly/3mOBkMO
Big Agnes Copper Spur
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I am 62 years old and I’m shocked how expensive camping gear has become. When I was young I shopped at the original REI in Seattle. I usually hit their bargain basement and I’m still using the equipment to this day. Today’s equipment cost more than my first car.
When you were young, REI also had their lifetime-no-questions-asked-no-receipt-needed return policy. 😭
Inflation over almost 50 years sucks
Yeah, 150.00 - 200.00 for a blow up pad... I hear ya..
You are not gonna get a proper car for 200 bucks in todays age. But yeah 200 bucks is too much for a sleeping pad.
@@mauricio533 Hi Mauricio, Agreed; however I think the items I purchased 30+ years ago that still serve me well are far superior in quality than anything made today. 🙂
I’ve had my “regular” Etherlight XT insulated down to the mid-20s and was just fine. Super comfortable at 4” thick. I love it. No experience with the “extreme”.
you mean you have the insulated version ? There are 3 versions : normal, insulated, extreme.
I used the Etherlight XT all the way down to -10 sleeping on snow with a foam pad underneath and a 20 degree sleeping bag. had the best sleep I’ve ever had while camping.
Same, have been camping this last winter in good old Flagstaff, great comfy pad and stuff sack to boot...
Same here! Also the size difference when they’re packed down is massive. The regular is close to the size of a nalgene.
Same here. I used the Etherlight XT mummy shape last winter on snow down to 19F and it was awesome, super warm, cosy and I have had a better sleep than in my mattress! Ha. Don't really understand why Dan doesn't like it.
What I learned from this is that not being a snow-camper gives me a lot more options when it comes to choosing a sleeping pad (& saving money on it!).
Another great vid, Dan!
I have learned this as well this last year. If you are backpacking in the cold your gear costs go up astronomically. Light+warm = $$$$
Exactly, camping in tropical places or during the summer gives you much more options for products that will suit you and are light and cheap. I go in the opposite direction from most of the trekking tribe, stay away from cold mountains and love tropical islands with mountains and preserved forests, and in the end you arrive at some surreal paradise beach.
It certainly can be, but if you are willing to compromise a little bit of comfort, it is possible to do it fairly cheap. Personally i have just used a foam pad through my winter outdoors experiences due to budget restrictions, with just R3.5. managed to sleep just fine outside in norwegian temps (-15 to -20 C) with no more protection from the cold than my sleeping bag.
yeah you have to pay a premium to be comfortable while camping in the snow… not to mention people in your life will think you are absolutely insane for purposely going out and staying in a tent in below freezing conditions lol
@@bianohehe Sounds wonderful but if seems all that savings would go to air travel.
Dan I am new to back packing and I really appreciate your videos and insight. I would say the thing that I appreciate the most and I hope you continue to do is, putting the product information on the screen. It’s nice to not have to click 1000 links trying to figure things out. Keep up the good content.
Surprised Exped didn't make your list! Great sleeping pads - and especially popular among side sleepers. Thanks for the comparisons!
Just spent a week on my exped dura... amazing pad.
Yes Exped is The Best so far, super comfy light weight and durable.
love my Exped.. I think we are up to 4 of them.. R3 for summer, R7 downmat for my -40 Februarys camping.
From what I've seen, Exped has the best warmth/price out there, and still comes highly packable. I've been using a Synmat 7 for years now.
Would you guys say it’s not worth to update from an exped ultra 3R to a big Agnes or sts xt insulated?
I have the exped but i don’t thinks its that comfortable…
Love my Sea To Summit Ether Light XT Small 4''. Kept me warm in -5 Celsius (23 °F ), was compactable, light and quiet. Hiking mostly in Norway and Iceland. No need/ experience with the Ether L XT Extreme.
I love my Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xtherm, regular. Unlike the one you have, mine is rounded on the ends. It only weighs 15oz with the pump sack, only 13oz without the sack. Can't beat it for a pad with a 6.9 R-value.
Funny, I love my Sea to Summit- comfort is king. I have never been cold on it- but it is bigger than most. If I don’t sleep well everyone around me will pay one way or another! Lol The Exped is so loud you might get kicked out of camp! I get two pads, a winter one (the S2S) that goes in a bigger capacity backpack and a late spring/summer pad so I’m waiting for you, Dan, to make a decision on how my summer is gonna go! No pressure 😳😃
Your comment gave me hope. I just bought that pad and was shocked by the review in the video 😅😅
the exped is loud? do you mean Therm-a-rest? i have both the Exped Downmat 9rw and the therm-a-rest uberlite.. and gosh, the uberlite is loud. the exped is silent as a mouse :)
@@MrJacobryborg no, I meant what I said! the exped ultra 3R was a comfortable pad but the noise kept me and my camp mates in surrounding tents awake. Even a slight head turn had that thing squealing, it was really bad!
@@CampSaw wow, i’ve never expierenced that with exped, i only habe their down mats though :)
Also love my Sea to Summit XT extreme and had no issues! Only downside is that it is big.
I have the Sea To Summit Ether Light Extreme wide and I have never been cold on it, even in snowy conditions. I find it ultra comfortable also. However, it is really bulky, so is strictly my cold weather pad. I have a Nemo Tensor Insulated 2022 wide for other conditions and love that also.
Also have the Sea to Summit Extreme and was thinking about the Nemo for summer!
Hi, I have a question.
Will those winter Matts BE too warm for summer temperatures? Like is this something that ca happen.?
I expect temperatures between 5-30 degrees. Wi will combine them with a field bed.
I am looking for the most comfortable matt.
Yeah he clearly wasn't using it fully inflated. You let any air out of that thing and it stops protecting you nearly as much
I sold mine Thermarest Xtherm Max for the reason, that when sleeping on the side, it pushed against my hip so hard, that I was waking up from the pain. I was trying to play with different air pressures with no luck. I am a regular size person, 80kgs. I strongly recommend to try it out before you buy for that particular reason. Definitely not a problem if you are strictly a back sleeper.
I use the klymit static v lite and can confirm its an excellent pad on a budget. If you can't drop like 300 bucks on a pad, its definitely worth the money. A comfortable and reliable 3 season pad.
Eh, I tried it out for a while but I hated it. I am a side sleeper though so that might have affected the performance. I ended up going with a thermarest trail scout and it's way warmer and more comfortable even though it's about a third of the thickness of the static v lite
Concur. It's great.
I've used mine down to like 20F with a foam pad under it. It's been great. The baffles allow your sleeping bag insulation to expand a little bit and provide extra warmth.
agree. i only paid $70 for mine new and that alone seals the deal for me, but it would be worth it at full price too
I have the Klymit Insulated Static-V. It's great, comfortable, packs small, inflates in 9 breaths. My wife is a side sleeper and loves it.
EXPED DOWNMAT!!Comfortable and warm, does not lose air. It has an R value around 7! So good I brought a spare so I could take a friend Winter backpacking. I live in Alaska,I camp with no heat source down to -30 F. I agree with you for the Sea to Summit Either Extreme IInsulated) LOUD!!!Crackly It was so loud it drown out my tinnitus and let bears know I was in the area. I love the Flextail Lite. I will probably have to check out the Thermarest. When I go lightweight I take the Klymt. Love your channel.
Exped are fantastic and made in democratic Taiwan, not Communist China like all Sea to Summit products are.
Fully agree with Exped. I have two of them and they're plush and super warm even below freezing. Have slept on Expeds and was warm down to 0 degrees. Have poked a hole in one but they repaired it for FREE!
@@givannimikel4586 Did you repair it out in the field? I worry about holes in these pads.
@@christianwolff780 It does happen, but I've made repairs in the field successfully with Tenacious Tape. You can repair any nylon gear with that stuff. However, Exped's repairs are a better long term repair.
I think I would opt for the Xtherm. For me, the higher R value combined with the increased durability *plus* the fact that it packs down pretty small is worth a little less comfort. Love Big Agnes though. Maybe the Xtherm underneath Big Agnes... 😆
I love my Rapid SL. I'm a side sleeper, but the raised edges on the regular width really make a difference
I tried a lot of pads. The Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated is my favorite. Very comfortable, and packing size isn't that bad. For me it is worth it for the extra comfort after a long day outdoors. Also love the integrated pump sack. Makes inflation super easy.
Right? I have the wide version and i have slept in -8 celsius just fine
I've heard good things as well but it looks huge when packed down. That's a non-starter.
Love the size comparison to the water bottle. Some in the military including myself ditch the canteen and use similar bottles. So the comparison has helped with loadout planning. Thanks for the help
We are car campers, but aim for the sweet spot between car camping gear and backpacking gear on account of the fact that it's five in my family, in a hatchback. We upgraded to a Big Agnes Air Core Ultra last year and love it. Comfy, keeps us warm, and doesn't take up a ridiculous amount of space.
I just bought the Big Agnes Q-Core Deluxe, it's blue he didn't show it here. But it is super comfortable with a r value of 4.3. It's a lot bigger to pack than my old Static V, but it's way more comfortable to sleep on.
IMHO the Klymit Static V is the "okayest" sleeping pad. Not bad for the money but I think there are better options now.
I can confirm the q-core deluxe is super comfortable. I prefer it over my bigger “more comfortable” exped mega mat 10 car camping sleeping pad. I also have the tensor and while it’s not as comfortable it still is great.
I wonder if the turquoise version differs somehow. It's also way more $$.
@@Staypuff777 I have the Static V for budget reasons. Not warm, not comfortable, but cheap and works well enough for summer. If I had money I would definitely upgrade.
I have found that the deluxe sleeps colder than a 4.3 pad should. What’s the lowest temp you have used it and been ok? Are you a warm sleeper? Do you use a quilt?
I’m 290 lbs and a side sleeper. The Big Agnes Q Core SLX allows me to get a good nights sleep, which is pretty impressive. 4” of loft. No loss of volume during the night. My hips and shoulders don’t collapse it
lose weight and you'll also spend less on food and you won't need a pad. win win
@@armadilllo This is nonsense
@@armadilllo perhaps he is 6' 7" and built like an nfl defensive lineman. his friends call him "lil andy".
da fuq with that trolling, bwah!
Seriously…uncalled for
@@highonimmi I never said he wasn't, but in most sports people are worried about saving grams on their equipment and spending thousands to reduce weight of their rigs when they could fix other things instead, I am a bit overweight myself and keep tweaking the suspension on my dirt bikes and mountain bikes when all I have to do lose weight, which is free, that's what I meant.
I've ended up with Expeds and really like them. Use the pump sack as a bag liner. I also only buy wide, and my R7 mummy is 25oz, R4 mummy is 18 and neither sound like chip bags🙂
Just bought and used the Rapide. It's more comfortable than my bed. Not hyperbole.
If you get the Flextail, make sure you get the Tiny Pump X...not just the tiny pump.
I just got to test my new BA Rapide SL last week. What a great pad! I’m 6’2” 270# (bought the long/wide) and I slept very comfortably on it, never slipped off, never lost air. I used a Ridgerest under it to protect it like I have all of my backpacking career with my old Thermarest pads.
are you a side sleeper? im a big guy too and sleep on my side. whats a Ridgerest? im new to camping have been using a cheap pad from Dicks and looking to get a good pad. i wont be sleeping in anything under 30 degrees. thanks
@@heavydpm666 Yeah, I'm a side sleeper. I'm using a Nemo Disco sleeping bag also. It has a spoon shape for more footbox room. Ridgerest is a thin, closed cell foam pad. They are fairly cheap and will protect your expensive pad from the ground. They will also give a little more R value.
The Sea to Summit Etherlight XT Insulated is VERY comfortable, packs small & is so thick it is a MUST for side sleepers. Decent R Vakue at 3.2 also. I got the Wide Rectangular version- worth every penny for a good sleep on the ground.
Thank you. I'm looking for a side and stomach sleeper, i read that the Etherlight XT is a good choice.
IT'S THE NEMO TENSOR, DAN. THAT'S THE BEST SLEEPING PAD, OKAY. STOP MAKING EVERYONE WAIT.
It is a great pad!!!
I bought the Klymit Static V Recon insulated sleeping pad on eBay factory refurbished for $45, it has an R Value of 4. I love it, it performs great and the price was ridiculously low. It had the same warranty as a brand new one as well.
I love how this man is both trolling us and informing us at the same time. ty lol
That flashback edit though!
Nice review. You should also choose a 3 season. Winter criteria eliminated most pads. Most people only need 3 season.
Over the past 6 years I've been using two pads at the same time.
A therma-rest self inflating and a Vectar UL. And, yeah, it gets the job done👍🏼
Great video Dan, thanks. New subscriber here (from Australia), and really appreciate that you included metric stats for these mats 👍
I just got back from a 2 week hike and took my etherlite xt extreme "regular size" I will never take anything else, sure it's slightly bulky but it's not loud like everyone claims it can be loud only from your sleeping bad rubbing against it but the mat itself it quiet.
It's the most comfortable Mat I have had being a side sleeper and I certainly never got cold from underneath. The only disadvantage is the size
Thank you for showing how small the pad is by showing it next a large water bottle
Cheers Dan, I upgraded my Nemo Tensor Insulated regular to the Thremorest Xtherm wide/long and Its been the best choice I've made. I gave my old Nemo to my partner to use, she says she doesn't want it now and wants to upgrade to the xtherm after using mine. The extra R value of the xtherm makes a big difference. For my style of sleeping I find the xthrem so much more stable and comfortable. Might not be the same for everyone as we are all different but I would go the Xtherm for the insulating properties alone.
Great comarison and I agree with the verdict. One high end competitor you might want to look at is the Exped deepsleep. Quite thick and packs big but it's very durable, and extreeeemly insulated.
When I see all these pads stacked on top of each I think “ hmm Dan needs a pea”
Own 3 different Static V’s love em! Work, play and 1 for the kid.
My last night was -18° on the "sea to summit" without a tent. it was totally fine.
I use Layon sleeping pad. It's comfortable. It's not for winter but I love how small it packs.
Now that we have taken up winter snowshoe camping, I struggle with which pads to consider. Our first year winter camping I just took our regular 3-season pads (e.g. Thermarest & Klymit) and we FROZE.
So now we haul in the bigger heavier pads like the MondoKing 3d. VERY WARM and VERY COMFORTABLE but very heavy. Best for car camping only.
So this video is VERY helpful brother.
Really glad I pulled the trigger on the Rapide SL. Going to put it to the test on my AT thru hike 2023!
My fave (not saying “best” because I haven’t tried them all - but I’ve tried many) weight to comfort ratio is the Sea to Summit Comfort Light. And it’s incredibly durable for its weight. It’s an older/less hyped pad but I’ve yet to find a better solution. Backpacked in 20°F and stayed warm, despite its 3.7 R value. And it works great for side sleepers.
Which pad did you use when you filmed "A Quiet Place"? Cuz some of those pads are quite noisy, like a bag of Sun Chips. I'm looking for a quiet pad, for sure.
I have the Exped Synmat 7. 140$, R-Value of 4.9, weighs 1kg and packs small and is big and comfy. comfort rating until-17C or 0F. really good budget sleeping pad. I might upgrade to the downpad some time down the line. I live in Finland so a high R-Value is preferable most of the year.
I have old Exped DownMat UL 7. I would not recommend Down model, since Inside Down tends to stick together, and would not be scattered evenly inside of tube. So most of part of tube does not have Down, so you will be freeze.
You may see how Down sticks together when put strong light back side of mat, and can see the shadow of inside down.
I dont know the new Down Model, if Exped change the structure of Air tube, such as put some of partition to prevent Down Stickiness, it will be good, but if the structure is the same, I will not recommend.
Love the vibe of these videos. Informative but also fun and entertaining - great combo!
Xtherm every time, like every time. It is, in my opinion the best mat you can get, and it folds into the trekker chair and gives you the best seat which can be used when tent bound, something i get regularly in the uk🤣. I love the xtherm… there, i’ve said it i love it 😍
I bought the big Agnes rapide thanks to your advice and love it! I have used it twice so far. The first weekend was around 70 degrees and the second weekend went down to 37. Very comfortable in both temperatures.
I have Sea To Summit Etherlight XT ( you skipped it somehow from this show ) and it's super comfy, well packable (with bikepacking as well) and light sleeping pad. I'm side sleeper and it's a must have one.
Just picked one of these up, excited to try it out.
Since I already have a very light foam pad, I would go with the Klymit static v. My foam pad is bulky but extremely light and I can actually sleep on it. I tie it onto the bottom of my pack. I'm always insured being insulated with it, and I have a dog, which makes me worried about getting anything else.
So! Thanks for the advice Dan I have today (9th November 2022) purchased the Big Agnes Rapide SL for the princely sum of £99 here in the UK. I got the long one so neither my head or feet dangle off the ends. Looking forward to testing it out as the temperature drops. 👍
I've been using the xtherm for years and love it! Good choice! I recently switched to the women's neoair for non-winter camping tho because it's lighter and still r-value 5.4!
I just picked up the Klymit Static V
I'll be testing it out next weekend.
Cliff-hanger…. You left us wondering!!!
This is exactly why people choose and use the Neoair Xlite. Kinda inbetween. Kinda comfy. Warm, durable and winterable (new term) with a CCF pad.
I have hiked more than 26,000 miles and bicycle toured more than 3 times that distance. The most important consideration, especially in cold weather is will the pad hold air, and is it durable. I have had two thermarest xtherms, both which leaked along inner seams in one to two weeks, the original yellow pad lasts maybe a couple of months. Both are noisy. Cascade Designs used to make great gear, but now it is crap. I had a Nemo which falied and ballooned in the middle after a month, another pos. I've owned both Klymit v and v2. The valve on the first failed within a month. The latter lasted longer, but developed several, repairable slow leaks on interior welds. I had a Sea to Summit that ballooned after about two months. I'm still looking for a durable mat, but I highly recommend a closed cell pad underneath in cold weather because you can't trust an inflatable. And know that R-values are additive, so if one pad is rated at two and you put a pad on top rated at three, the total R-value is five.
I‘ve used my Uberlite plenty in below freezing temps. Lowest I got to was -15C (5F) and still felt comfortable. The only thing I don’t like about it is the durability. I‘m on my third mattress, because of delaminating. Luckily all covered under warranty though.
Thermarest Neo Air Xtherm 👍🏼👍🏼 we use 3 in different sizes and we are really happy with them, also the lifetime guarantee is nice to have 😊 small / light / all weather conditions - perfekt 😴
KLYMIT STATIC V LUXE insulated Sleeping Pad or Big Agnes Rapside... for a best budget pad?
Love my Nemo. By the way- the updated models are lighter than the previous. Great pad.
I used my uber lite on snow this spring and stayed warm. It only got down to about 25 degrees and I added a space blanket under it but I was surprised how warm I stayed. I sleep pretty warm, though.
Watching this after I just bought my Rapide SL from the REI anniversary sale 😎 Great video as always!
I've been using a Thermorest Prolite Apex for about 4 years straight. I sleep on it EVERY NIGHT. They are pricey but reliable. The one i currently use has lasted for over a year and a half and like i said i sleep on it every night.
Make a decision, Dan. The Road of Life is paved with flat squirrels that couldn't make a decision. Decide! 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously, thanks for the video!
Your videos have gotten so good adding Emit
Hey Dan and Emmett, Enjoy your channel. REI having as usual a big Labor day sale, after hundreds yes hundreds of nights using my Klymit " insulated" 1.9 pad it REFUSES to lose air , break/leak or tear. Your review of the Nemo is just the opposite of owners of this pad on REI website as i encourage u to read, Apparently this pad Sucks . So i will keep hauling my 28 oz 1.9 Klymit until it breaks which it refuses to do.. Happy Trails.. Richy in the Sierras
The words 'sleeping pad' was said 63 times in this video. Averaging 6 times a minute. That's a lot of sleeping pads. I still don't know which one is best, but sleeping pad #13 was said in describing the worst. Thank you Dan! :)
Agreed, ambiguous and confusing.. common with his videos.
@@jeffhildreth9244 I mean, we know it's a video about sleeping pads. So we got that.
@@HeyMySock I mean, Could you say that again in understandable English. I mean, like, I still find it ambiguous and confusing. You know what I mean? Like, some sort of organized train of thought.. and more than that like, I mean, stating which or what was best at the end with a clear identification.
I wish you had added a rating for noisiness. I feel like I am waking the campsite when I rollover. I have a thermarest neoair which has a load crinkle.
I like your conclusion. I just bought the Big Agnes Rapide whassisname. Great pad but a stupid name. It’s my first good quality pad after decades of roughing it. I’ve only had a few nights on it so far but it really does seem to tick all my boxes.
I’ve got some thermarest neo air variant it’s like 4” thick, packs down really small and love it. Having the 4” of pad is nice because I can either pump it all the way up or let a little out and I can sink in a bit better. With my Nemo pillow I get great sleep on the trail!
Would be good to get your thoughts on how Exped pads compare to all these
Haha I ended up buying the Themorest Neoair a few years ago... but I went through the same problem between Thermorest and Big Agnus as you did haha
Thank you for all your reviews. Planning a 2023 thru hike on AT and I’m going to be re-watching all your videos over the summer to help me make some decisions. Your experience and advice is so appreciated!!!!!!!
Congrats on your thru hike, Margie!
I’m looking at the Klymit Insulated Static V, which has a 4.4 R-value, for $100.
The closest comparable one in this video seems to be the Nemo, which, right now on BackCountry, is almost $100 more and has a lower 4.2 R-value.
Easy decision, Klymit Insulated V? It seems really hard to beat that price for such a decent R-value. I go out about 3 times a year and never in weather below freezing, if even below 50°.
No thermarest Neo-air x-lite on the list? I think it is at the sweet spot of warmth, weight, and durability. The X-therm is also awesome. Nemo Tensor is solid as well.
Actually, I bought my S2S because you recomended it in the video "7 mistakes EVERY new camper makes in COLD WEATHER". In minute 6:17 you say it is a deep winder pad and you could lay it directly onto snow and sleep toasty warm.
It was my first quote "backpacking" pad and I should have noticed the bulk was a red flag, but since I was just getting started I didn't paid attention to it.
Even I make mistakes. Theoretically that pad should do just that at ASTM 6.2 r Value. For me this winter it did not.
I got that red Big agnes today. It comes with a bag to fill up air, it is no noisy moving on it, and the edges are just perfect. I have 40 yeaars of trekking and climbing, long bike trips. I have tried a lot of equipment. This Big agnes pad, it surly seems like the most perfect and best. I just lay on it, and felt this great warmth coming from it. I got some old therma rest for the summers. This one is for the winter, I live in scandinavia. Looking forward to go out tomorrow, Just for sleeping hehehe. Watching this video , it just makes me feel even better! Good night!
Now, 9 months later, my Big Agnes is loosing air. Really a disapointment. I know that it can't be a puncture because it has never been directly on the ground like not even gras, always in a tent, and always on top of some protection. I would not say it is a budget pad, not at all. But it is very comfortable to sleep on, as long as it does not loose air.
I have to say it! ever since emit has been on board it seems like your channel has gotten a sarcastic style of comedy that is just great lol. props to him, I'm assuming it has been his ideas.
I know it is slightly heavier than the Rapide SL, but I think the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core Ultra is a killer deal. It has a higher R-value and is significantly less expensive.
Awesome! I haven’t checked out yet.
Don’t let this video box you in. Bring a sleeping pad for comfort. Bring a closed cell foam pad as your second layer if you think it’s gonna be too cold. I’ve never had one single good night’s sleep using that therm-a-rest sleeping pad. It’s toasty warm but is dog $hit as a sleeping pad.
Just had the Nemo on the AT last week. Deflated on the first night. In 6 years never had a problem with my Thermarest
Haven't heard anyone else complain about that. Bad valve maybe?
I agree with you on the XTherm. I had the S2S ultralight/non-insulated, which came in at a higher R value than the insulated, go figure. Weight vs R Value, the Xtherm is the king.
Great video, love the information and the entertainment!!
Me and the girlfriend have had big Agnes and sea to summit pads for years. Her sea to summit pads routinely out perform my big agnes pads. Used them in them a from 15F-105F. Big Agnes has an awesome customer service team and honors their warranty so I keep going back. But her sea to summit pad is something I envy every morning after sleeping on the trail.
Who knew finding a backpacking sleeping pad could be so difficult! I feel ya, Dan. I’m trying to find that unicorn of a sleeping pad that is lightweight, wide enough for a rotisserie sleeper, with the R value to be a 4 season pad.
HA, I've been telling my friends that I'm a rotisserie chicken sleeper.
The Klymit pads are good for side sleepers, I'm a big guy (120kg) and have got on really well with my Insulated Static V Luxe for cooler temperatures, and Static V2 for the warmer months. Best R value is the Insulated Static V Luxe SL at 6.5, it's nice and wide at cm and just about small enough to go in a 1-man tunnel tent, while the standard Static V Luxe definitely is not, that one's 76cm!
Huh, I slept on a sea to summit ether light extreme in 14°F and was just fine. It is big, though.
Just bought a Big Agnes Rapid SL in the 25x72 thanks to your review and I’m super happy. Also had a luxury of camping with Chef Corso in my home state of Missouri! Thanks for the recommendation, bought the tiny pump as well!
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that the Klymit Static V Insulated runs for $60 and has an R-value of 4.4 and its the normal non-insulated pad that runs for about $35 that has an R-value of 1.9
actual ASTM R-Value is about half that, but still the top end of the ultra budget pads
Hands down the Thermarest NeoAir X Lite regular/wide! R value 4.2 and weighs 15oz. Comfy, warm, and light!
Great pad as well! I didn’t include it because I let someone borrow mine over five years ago and they never returned it!
@@DanBecker love the wide version. Will never use a 20” wide again. Mine started to deflate causing me to reinflate in middle of the night and first thing in morning while I had coffee in my tent. I couldn’t find a leak so I sent it into Thermarest to have them look at it. Maybe they’ll find a leak and repair it or hopefully they will send me a new one. Good customer service on their warranty is where a company earns my loyalty!
@@DanBecker It made a b-roll cameo appearance at 10:31 though, didn't it?
I kid you not, I got a total of 3 hours of sleep during the duration of our four day northern sierras trip on that sea to summit pad. Never again.
I just picked up the Klymit Static V Insulated on eBay, open box-new, for $40. Deals can be had there so I highly recommend looking on eBay first.
The hermarest Uberlight has been panned across the board by people who have used it. It cracks at the top almost immediately and that area deflates, it is not a warm sleeping pad, and it is uncomfortable to sleep on. Everybody I have watched who had this sleeping pad complained that it deflated in the head, hip, and foot areas, and that overnight, the whole thing deflated. I haven't bought it for those reasons, but do your research before getting it. My favorite pad absolutely has to be the Thermarest X Therm. No question. Four season, light, smaller to carry than most pads and very warm and comfortable. I partner it with an Alpkit Hunka bivvy which keeps me warm, waterproof, and keeps the pad and the sleeping bag in one place, so no slipping off when turning. It's like a hug in material form.
The BA rapide SL in regular wide is hands down the most comfortable sleeping pad ever @ 24 oz or less! I wont budge on replacing this pad to lower my weight.
Just had my Thermarest XTHERM let out all the air on a camp last weekend. Cost me 120 e and used it like 10 times.
It's great how you keep the ads entertaining. Well done.
I’m still rocking this old thermarest I got from a military surplus. Little on the heavy side, but so durable and comfortable
I had a thermarest back in Boy Scouts in the 80s it was a self inflating it was a short pad. Slept with that in weather that would blow most of these guys minds. I lost it in a move a couple years ago. Nowadays I use a cheap pad if it’s cold I take a yoga mat. Depending on the cold is how I place the foam. But I also use a ground cloth in winter. It’s a rubber and cloth beach pad it really keeps cold off you.
I believe in hiking to camp. Not camping because in hiking. Many things I don’t agree with the hiking community on TH-cam. I hike and camp to enjoy myself. I don’t need to wear one outfit and live like I’m homeless. While eating junk and walking as fast as I can.
Of course I learned what I was capable of in the army doing forced marches 12 miles in 2 hours and 39 min. Did a 50 mile ruck run.
we had NEMOs at first. But gladly went to the Term-a-rest Xtherm for the two of us. hands down the Best. light weight, 4 season, cost effective. Glad you came to those last two
Thanks so much for your time and effort to make these great videos! Stay warm!
I watched your video about your bad experience with Sea2Summit extreme and had commented on what perhaps went wrong... I have it and I was toasty in winter and -15°C. The weight is justified by its performance. Did you try it only once or many times?
Right, I have the one he reviewed and it keeps me toasty warm! Not sure what went sideways with him but that thing is awesome.
I have it too and sleep brutally warm. Didn't slept on it directly into snow but in a high altitude mountain trip it performed awesome.
The bulk is my biggest con though.
You did make a decision, you picked your top two. ;) Thanks this was helpful.