Try the REAL Zorn Palette On Your GRIMDARK Minis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2021
- This week I paint a gritty warband for my games of FORBIDDEN PSALM using only brush and a limited palette! You can find more than 4 hours of REAL TIME footage on my Patreon! ► / notjustmecha + check all the links below!
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I love how Italians sing the English language. I never get tired of hearing him say 'modulation!'
The red light effect on the wizard looking dude looked so realistic that i first thought you fotografed them with a actual red light to the side.
Subscribed for the accent, stayed for the content.
Bestiarum makes the absolute best fantasy minis. If I had to drop all my patreons, I'd still keep them.
The more I work with and see oil paints in action, the less enthusiastic I am about acrylic paints. There's so much to like about the process if you can handle the potential mess and cleanup stuff.
Alright... I came and watched this brilliant video again, and I took notes this time. About to embark on my first dabble into oil painting miniatures!
Thank you Marco, your videos are entertaining and inspiring! I use the Zorn palette as a sort of "palette" cleanser between projects and find it very relaxing.
The absolute king of oils on minis. Thank you for another master class.
I keep coming back to this video to rewatch it. It's such an inspiration to me, even though I still haven't tried to mirror your work in my own. I might finally have to give Zorn a try soon!
this is probably the single most useful and inspiring video on painting minis I have ever seen, among hundreds in my playlists; I shall try this, thank you so much for sharing!
My Dad just salvaged a whole load of oil paints from the allotment shed, well chewed by slugs, since I've been talking about the amazing oil painting videos I've been watching on here and seeing this is really giving me confidence to try an entire new style of painting; so thanks for that Marco, your models always make me want to paint which has always been my least favourite thing to do, but perhaps for not much longer! :D
You are a true artist with a deep understanding of colour. An understanding that most of us will never truly get. You can tell it's a real passion for you.
That's a jaded looking grumbledor ;)
Thank you for all your videos ! Always a very good quality and such amazing technics. Thank you to share your tips, you make us progress so much !!
Wow, these are incredible paint jobs! I love your enthusiasm about everything.
Great tutorial with loads of interesting content - thank you.
Amazing, Marco, many thanks!!!
Awesome! You're videos have convinced me to start incorporating more and more oil paints into my minis.
Marco, I have been binge watching all of your oil painting videos and they are incredible! You are a great teacher and I am very excited to try out oil paints for my next minis
I love how these turned out. It's a beautiful balance of contrast and color while keeping the models looking moody and daunting. It's a true grim approach without Instagram filters and just slathering streaking grime on models! Well done man!
I have this Dark Rituals fulfillment right here, and was just now pondering how to paint it. It seems as if your video came just a the right time! Thanks heaps, mate!
I ordered some of these minis and eager to get that Knight of the Bells yet I had no idea they are part of a game, excellent painting done in a different way then I'm used to. Great stuff!
as always Marco awesome!!!, will have to try out this palette looks fun and loving YOUR results!!
Thank you for continuing to place links on the corner when you use a technique you've taught before. Really helpful assuming it's a new crowd. Even having watched them before, seeing you apply the technique in a new way helps shed light on how it works. Great stuff!
Another great video Marco 😊 A pleasure to watch you work as always 😊
I'm so happy to see that you seem to stick to oil colours more and more. I've recently got my first tubes and started trying them out. It's something I'm absolutely not used to, but it's fun and rewarding and your constant videos help immensly!
Yup, my next few models are going to receive that 'oil primer'! It's always amazing how with almost every video you manage to introduce a completely new concept or trick, mind blowing!
I feel like I learn new ways to paint in every video, I don’t know how you do it. You’ve also convinced me to finally buy some oils. I look forward to putting all the information I’ve learned from your videos into practice, and continuing to learn in the future.
Not only are these videos amazing and the results stunning, but your enthusiasm (and lovely accent) elevate them so much.
wow can't wait to watch the in real time footage. Will definitely use this technique to my Empire models.
Thank you for keeping up with the oils, they really are my preferred medium now because of your work. Question wrt Metallic paints and preferred brands as the variance seems huge. Gamblin silver is amazing and its almost liquid metal in its consistency, but Gamblin gold has pigment you can see from space. I'm having decent results with mixing my own with the GSW pigments but wondering what your preferred brands are.
Ahh yes, time for weekly fix.
Outstanding result once again, I have difficulty grasping how you get such phenomenal results in such a short time, even after seeing all of your videos.
As a swede it pleases me greatly to see a painter of your caliber trying to emulate the style of Anders Zorn while painting miniatures. Well done Marco.
I love this so much, on all levels...
Love the content. Thanks
Yours is by far the most creative and enlightening mini painting channel in all of the TH-cams! I bow before your wisdom!
You are amazing Marco!
Amazing work!!!
Absolutely love the metal work on that plate armoured lad, I'm going to try and recreate it on my new stormcast from Dominion.
Never apologies for Grandulf - NEVER!
As always, great knowledge Marco, excellent work. Great tips on the freehand with oils, and I really liked the bases where the edge has been chipped away to add to the change in levels!
Whoa.....fantastic.
You completely changed the way I look at painting now a days, although I am way more lazy and satisfied with lesser results then you are, my painting has improved dramatically , both in quality and quantity. THANK YOU! Now I just need to find a use for my old Vallejo game air set I really don't use anymore ;)
So good
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Love your work Marco! So much that I’ve included you in my latest one. Haha
I love the look of those models, fucking awesome!
one word: AMAZING!
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Question: How long do you let the oil paints sit between painting them on and then adding brighter colors/texturing? I always find my textured disappear because they actually blend TOO much
Hi, I am probably late, but did you find an answer to that question?
YES! I didnt know if you followed these guys before but I mentioned them to you in one of your recent videos because I thought you would like the style of minis. But I am sure you were already following them. I LOVE!! Bestiarum Miniatures
Looks fantastic. I'd love to try and replicate this for Cursed City.
5:08 Wow! Just that sketchy undercoat looks fantastic. The finished models are beautiful. That blood-red OSL is so very effective. How do you treat your oil painted minis after you finish with painting them? Do you need to leave them to dry before varnishing them? If so, how long do you recomend?
Your a master and have encouraged me to buy a heap of oils. I'd like to see you painting black armour with oil?!
Aaaah... Wow😍
Thank you for another great video! Marco, you have so many fantastic "speed painting" videos where the excellent quality is not sacrificed. Would you consider doing a video in this style for terrain pieces? GW (and some others) release terrain pieces now that are so detailed that they could really benefit from your approach to speed painting. Perhaps the terrain from the new Kill Team Octarius boxset would be a good subject...? And thanks again for all your great videos!
When he made his magnetic gaming board, he spray painted a bunch of GW terrain and it looked really good.
Not seeing the grimdark playlist anywhere, am I just being dense? Also another incredible video as always! I've been doing some marvel crisis protocol minis with a lot of oils and it's been a great experience, thanks for the inspiration!
I wish you hadn't used the term "real zorn palette" when you are using a modified version. We all know that only palettes from the Zorn region are Zorn Palettes and the rest are just sparkling palettes.
Suddenly I wonder how the silver would mix with Williamsburg's Payne's Grey Violet. This is still one of my favorite videos
Those Bestiarum Miniatures are amazing!
I check out the site now/the links; it's gunna be hard to not buy all bundles!
Genius!
Nice!
Awesome, as usual ! Really inspiring too. Marco, I understand this would be complicated to fit in your workflow, but I’d be really thrilled to watch how you plan and execute the work on a bigger piece (knight / greater daemon sized for exemple). Anyway, loving your vids, not missed one since I discovered your channel ;).
Check out his vid on the massive 3D printed mini. He shows the prep process, then used spray cans, oils, and acrylics.
@@MrAshutts I watched it, several times :). But it’s painted more like a terrain piece than an actual mini, there is not nearly as much details as in a more “humanoid” piece.
Yep, my pre-Like was justified. I especially like the tall bald mini - my eyes keep going back to him. I'm still wondering: do you varnish at the end to unify the finish (oil, acrylic etc)?
I love those minis!
I'm about to finish my Angron conversion and wanted to ask how you would go about painting interesting, grimdark, red demon skin?
Big fan of your videos, Marco. Most of the figures you paint have quite a lot of sculptural detail. I'd be interested to see how you paint simpler figures, which have little to no sculpted detail, and still maintain visual interest.
This is amazing! I started using oils recently, but haven't got the knack of it yet for miniatures.
I'm not sure if you are into games like Bolt Action or not, but I would love to see you tackle something like British Caunter camo on tanks in oils (mostly because I want a tutorial on how to do that, haha!). Honestly, I know you'd nail it.
At the moment I'm using oils on almost every model, but solely as weather/wash for 40k Orks. Gives them an easy Grimdark look and makes them nice and dirty. Orks don't wash!
I love the palette, the miniatures, and the paint job!! One question, which metallics did you use?
Might be those in Winsor and Newton's Artist's series oil paints.
5:25 I believe James Wappel uses a similar method with acrylics. You do need to work faster than with oils of course.
One hour before this I just found Bestiarum minis. Then this vid popped up on my feed.... welp now it's time to go buy some oils while these prints cure
Man, did you know that Forbidden Psalm comes as a spin off of the multiple award winning RPG Mörk Borg? Have you tried it? Awsome vid btw
Well, it's not REALLY a Zorn palette without Mercury and elephants' tusks 😉.
And ground down mummy in the browns as well?
Great video, I really like the incorporation of oils.
Questions: For the metalics, do you also mix them with oils to do the highlighting? Also, do you just use mineral spirits to thin the oil paints (to improve the flow when painting freehand for example), or do you use other mediums (Galkyd, Neo-Megilp, etc)? Appreciate it, keep up the great work.
the metallics are also oil paints.
stiltwalker, yes!
Really nice video! Do you have something like speed painting black armors? Ty!!!
Great video as always, can't wait for your next video, I'm always motivated to try new things when I see one.
This isn't related to this video, but I'm thinking about getting myself a blue and a red primer from Vallejo to mix purple and magenta primers (unfortunately I just found those in cans which I try to avoid now that I have an airbrush) to use as a base for a zenithal white highlight pre-shade. As you showed more than once in your videos purple and magenta are a better base than black for shadows when using certain contrast or other transparent colors. It feels a little like wasting color and time when priming black, highlighting white and then shadowing with purple when I could do this in two layers instead of three. What do you and all other painters think?
Okay. I've seen a lot of your videos talking about how great oils are, but this is the first time I've ever actually been convinced to try them myself. Specifically, around the 5 minute mark where you're cleaning up the base layer looks absolutely amazing already and could honestly be the end of the paint job for a comic book look. One question though: doesn't undiluted oil paint take forever to dry? I've heard it can stay workable for upwards of a week.
I have no history with art, have never painted a miniature, and barely have any understanding of color theory but
This shit lit!
I think instead of buying 150 bottles of paint and continuing to be ignorant of the deeper intricacies of color, im going to try to learn using this palette, maybe without the green and blue to start.
I dont know if you read these comments since the video is so old, but if you (or anyone else) is reading this, would you recommend pre-making mixed colors in empty bottles, or just use raw amounts from the beginning and learning as you go?
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! Super appreciated 😊 and welcome on board!!!
If you are working on big projects, like an entire army for example, premixing the key tones is a great idea that increases your efficiency and general coherence exponentially! Working on single models or small warbands you get more interesting and personal hues mixing on the spot (plus it's a lot of fun and a great learning the experience!)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJMoh thank God lol, based off your other videos I was afraid the consensus would likely be to blend rather than premix, and I was really dreading the impending headache of matching tones for a small army. Now I just need to pick between oils and acrylics... Thank you!
Ps. you're such a godsend lol, I've went on a marathon of your videos last night after this one, so many cool models and techniques. Highly appreciate everything you've done and do!
do you add water , paint thinner etc....to the oils or just straight from the tube ? Awesome video,
Very interesting, I seen people paint models with full oils before but never this calculated approach of trying to emulate classical arts.
this is amazing! Im just curious, is there a "cold" version of the zorn palette? Im doing some drukhari and I was thinking of doing some teals or blues on them as a prominent color for their armour
thanks again for the video Marco! keep up the good work ! :)
During the section with the colour wheel just move the shape over to the range of tones you want to use and work from there. :)
I have been watching your videos non stop and cannot thank you enough for this content and instruction. I use the information in these videos to assist me in my miniature painting journey. I was wondering if i could ask you a question? I am currently about to paint my first army - Alpha Legion - The scheme i am trying to achieve is from the cover of "Head of the Hydra" which shows the armour being a light turquoise, What colours would you suggest using for my shadows?
What if you prime the model and then fill in the metalic parts with shiny acrylics (dries fast) before you create the first oil layer? Oils are often very transparent (have learned that, the hard way xD) so you should be able to see the original silver but you can then add a variation of darker and brighter blue to really bring it to life. Or maybe red/brown on some gold or bronze?
So question?? For acrylic paints a usually use vallejo line. Is there any reason I should change to what you suggest. I dont mind changing it just wanted to know if there was a difference. Also please keep up the good work. You are a massive inspiration for me too keep painting!
What brand of metallic oil paints do you recommend?
Hey Marco, I'm curious -- what did you use for your metallic pigments? Confessedly, I'm a bit ignorant of oil paints in general, but in my limited knowledge I'm not aware of any metallic oil paints that spring to mind. Or did you jump back to acrylics there?
for me it looks like silver, gold and bronze oil paints. there sure are metallic oil paints on the market. (i'm using schmincke but thats only my preference/availability around here - having no trouble finding those metallics)
Marco, I love your work with oils. Can you go into more detail sometime for alternatives to zenithal highlighting for people who do not have airbrushes? While it is very basic, it's difficult to sometimes understand these concepts without seeing them in action. Thank you so much for sharing your process with oils! I love it!
Also I'd love to see an depth look at enamels used as the primary paint for miniatures as well!
One of his value sketching videos shows how to zenithal with just a brush. I think it's the like 3 colors, 2 hours, 1 brush vid. His painting a large 3D printed mini video shows how to zenithal with spray cans.
If you want some good Italian metal, check out Mortuary Drape. I have no idea what they're saying, but I love throwing them on the playlist every now and then!
Also, you should get some lids from medicine or large juice bottles. Along with some sticky tac, you can use them as a paint grip so you don't have to worry about wearing gloves and getting paint on your fingers.
Cool as fuck models. I'll have to get a warband of my own for FP!
Marco, what would you say is a good airbrush paint? Something pre-mixed that you dont have to mess with too much? I recently bought like 30 Molotow paint refills (seen you use them before). I realize one can just add thinner/water/flow improver to paints like P3 or Vallejo Model Color. But I still new to the airbrush and I kind of hate having to be slowed down by the mixing process.
Hey Marco!
I was wondering what metallic paints you used while working with oil paints? I haven't been able to source a set I really like.
First off what a great Video! And I have a question, at about 6:20 or so in the video you mention doing the oil priming technique and then using contrast paints, and I really would like to try/play with that idea. Would you lust let the prime dry or would you have to clear coat it too before using acrylics over the top? Thanks in advance for any info. Or you could just make a video :)
You don't have to clear coat the acrylics before using oil paints. Just make sure the acrylic layer is dry
Mr Marco, trust baby is doing well in these times. Say could you do some conversion/painting for the Soul Hunters 40k?
Love this Marco! Is there a good picture you know of showing this full expanded palette any where? Going to try this on my next project as i want to get better at mixing colors.
Thanks! Just Google, Zorn palette and you'll get an overload of info and visual tools; it's a foundational step of painting/atelier education so there's plenty of resources 😊
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks Marco!! I looked for the "expanded" palette for a bit before realizing there would be too many permentations lol
Found some good zorn ones!
@@errata2412 oh yeah, especially at the beginning, stick to the super limited classic one! Managing the black as source of "blue" is a great great exercise 😊
Damn I guess I need some oilpaints
Hey Marco, what are the pros/cons of using oils or heavy body acrylics for detailing? I have oils but wondering if heavy body acrylics are worth getting too. Seems like you mostly use them at the end but you've used oils in the same manner, so are they redundant?
Well, I now know how "Ilkhan The Bloody" is going to get done!
Hey Marco, where do you source your makeup brushes? I'm Irish also, just looking for a place to get them in decent bulk
Is the first coat of oils over the zenithal thinned with white spirits?
Hi, a question, perhaps trivial for you. After painting an oil base (black-brown) can I use acrylics on top?
il maestro, what makes molotow a primer? To a pleb like myself, it appears to be a plain black acrylic paint. Is there an additive that helps differentiate itself from all the other basic acrylic paints?
Where did you get the metallic oil paints? id love to recreate this scheme on my ushoran!
Hey Marco- what metallics did you use?