Went out riding for the first time this year on my 250 The drive shaft and the rear axle broke and me and my dad had to fix it My dad had to find a weird way to weld it together to fix it so we didn’t have to spend $500+ dollars but it works perfectly fine now
Dam Pete, you can ride the hell out of anything! Thats a pretty sick quad. Just so happens im in Yuma right now. Ill be riding Buttercup the next 2 days.
The Sundahl designs definitely influenced their ideas. Unfortunately custom frames are pretty expensive so the idea of implementing some of this tech into bolt on kits is pretty clever. I can't wait to try a modern machine with their kit. Just seeing one of the Sundahl banshees would be amazing let alone watching one in action. I'd be nervous to ride one 😆😅🤘
Hehehe i have been waiting for this vid! I need all the info. What size tires, have they weighed it, what are the draw backs to such a complex suspension set up, when is it going to be available for the public, and how wide was it?😂😂
😅 well I’m sure the tires were 23’s and 22’s. I’m not sure how much the machine weighed but probably not much more than a standard TRX if it is heavier. There really isn’t a lot of draw backs to a set up like that if your free riding regularly. I think it would be a lot of fun to try out in a variety of situations. The bolt on kits are ready for YFZ450R’s and TRX450R’s. If you want to really learn about everything I would reach out to XTravel directly 👍
Hey Pete! I love your videos and know that this one is going to be great as always! 🤙👊 Just wondering, how often to you check the save sport quads email for quad of the day? I sent you an a email a few months ago for Instagram quad of the day.
Sundahl did that 30 years ago and still makes that type of shit to this day. That dude on this vid is profiting off another mans innovation and trying to take credit
I think it would be easier to compare the weight if we did more jumping with it. Just riding it around it felt a little heavier then a regular 450 but it had so much traction that maybe that’s why I had that sensation. It was super smooth and predictable, I thought about it for weeks after riding it 🤪😅
Congrats on getting a Z400! I bet your stoked! 😬 I wish I could make these videos faster but there’s been a lot going on behind the scenes for the future. Maybe someday I’ll have an editor to help.. just subtitling this video took 8-10 hours 😅🤦♂️
@@gavinremer1450 yes no problem, I ride a trx 450, but I live in Canada, we don't have dunes, not something id put on my quad, but if I rode dunes constantly i probably would put it on.
@@piketerritory244 It's not worth it for duning either. These long travel kits really only benefit you in desert terrain with huge rocks and chewed up whoops. It's too soft for Glamis or any sand dunes for that matter. In the dunes you want more of an mx setup with paddles.
Pete, you should try out the Suzuki LTZ250 or the 400 My aunt has a 400 and I have a 250 I’m thinking about buying her 400 now that she has a side by side and I will need a bigger quad soon
I would love to ride one, it's been quite awhile. They're definitely the most advanced platform in the 400 class. If your aunts is in great shape it sounds like an awesome upgrade!
I have a kfx 400 it’s the same as the ltz 400 my makes 65 horse power and 42 pounds of torque it’s one of not many making this much power if you need any head porting done tho I took a stock z400 ported the head and made 11 horse power just off of a head
I haven't done a lot of research on helmets. I know a lot of the brands comply to the same safety standards so as the price goes up they tend to just get lighter and lighter. Wish I could be of more help
@@cgib2600 Awesome! I've always been told that $100 helmet should protect you just as well as a $500. I'm sure in testing scenarios there could be increased safety benefits to the more top shelf helmets but you'll still be safe even with a cheaper one because of the safety standards they all meet 👍
I'm assuming he had a Fox shock on the rear as well. I think this was a true no link set up in the rear. Unfortunately we didn't get a good walk around vide of the quad.. that was my bad 🤦♂️ XTravel has my rear YFZ shock right now for a revalving and were setting up their "no link linkage". I'm pretty excited to try it out!
Sick video$ would like to see the way it handles donuts and figure 8s. I want that for my gasgas quad. Will you do a pro bono suspension set up on it? Jk Not
All that for 15" of travel? Dean Sundahl was the pioneer of over center arms on a quad. His set up had 18-20. My trx front kit is totally bolt on, 4130 and plus 2.5" per side, has 14" travel with the stock showas
It's cool, but from far it sounds like it's kinda struggling going up the dunes, also its definently better to run paddles and razors or doughnuts on the front to plane the sand, that's the reason it doesent turn too hot.
Definitely great advice! Paddles would've helped a lot but this quad isn't exactly built for the sand dunes, its more for pounding out desert whoops and rough, rocky terrain.. It was still fun to ride nonetheless, it's set up really reduces ride fatigue 👍😊
@@PeteHager yeah I wasn't trying to bash the quad but that thing can definently be a duner if the owner gets front tires for sand and paddle just so it hooks up better.
@@manny.9273 I know you weren't 😊 It would be sick to implement this tech into a straight dune machine with some higher HP numbers 😲 I've been fantasizing about an XTravel Raptor 🤪
From my understanding Sundahl definitely created the concept a long time ago with banshee’s like you said. This machine was built a few years ago and it seems to carry on the concept. Unfortunately custom frames are more expensive and tedious to set up compared to a bolt on kit. That’s why XTravel has taken the idea and implemented it into bolt on kits. They call it BVS and XLinkX technology. Riding a Sundahl Banshee would be ridiculous 🤪😅
Gear preference is up to the rider and the machine. The Raptor can be lugged around because it has so much torque. I enjoy 3rd gear trails. Those speeds are more forgiving and playful. If speeds are high then normally the trail isn’t very technical. It’s getting harder and harder to find actual ATV trail with all the SxS’s these days..
You can buy this complete front end kits for the YFZ and TRX 450’s. He also sells a rear “no link linkage” that helps eliminate the quad buck in the whoops. I’m looking to do his rear end set up to the YFZ. Maybe down the road we’ll do the front end kit. Definitely contact them if your interested! 👍🤘
Most likely 23 inch fronts and 22 inch rears. That’s common in desert racing! A lot of guys run that set up when they have mud races in GNCC as well to increase ground clearance 👍
Hey Mario, like the above comments the Honda 250EX is a great starter quad but if your an older person that’s bigger in size it may be too small for you. Starting in the 400 category could be more practical. Something a 400ex or Z400 would be an excellent starting machine as well 👍
That is such an awesome machine! Glad you featured it.
It was a privilege to ride! It was very awesome of James to offer to meet us for the day and to let us ride his creation 🙌😬🤘
@@PeteHager ¹¹11¹
I'm sure that suspension cant be fully appreciated until you actually ride it; badass 🤘
Yea just looking at someone drive it seems not any more travel then normal wide a arms
@Alexzander Chris bots at their finest 😂
Dude that machine is Unbelievable!! I thought my Raptor was a BEAST until I saw this!!! 👍
people have no idea how hype i get seeing a new pete hager video in my suggested.
I’ve never seen a quad like that that’s awesome
The lt500 prototypes had some weird suspension designs like this one
That suspension is living in 2050! 🔥
Went out riding for the first time this year on my 250
The drive shaft and the rear axle broke and me and my dad had to fix it
My dad had to find a weird way to weld it together to fix it so we didn’t have to spend $500+ dollars but it works perfectly fine now
Awesome setup. I remember a guy from Arizona that had his banshee setup like this back n the day. Was sick.
It must have been one of the Sundahl framed banshee’s. That’s where the idea originated 🤘
@@PeteHager he is on a bit from one of the heuvos grandes or quatro loco atv videos from the early 2000s
The shocks sound amazing sucking up all the air🔥
Wow ! I’m jealous Pete , it’s like a little trophy truck , and the hookup with knobbies wow.
Haha! You said it best Pete! Looks like a Cadillac gliding across the terrain! Nice build and review!
yeah love it- the suspension and like your onboard view-gave me thrills...again !!
We needa relocate Pete down to the desert for good frickin content is insanely good lately!
Thanks man! It was a life changing experience going to this region! I cant wait to return and see even more riding areas! 😬
Dam Pete, you can ride the hell out of anything! Thats a pretty sick quad. Just so happens im in Yuma right now. Ill be riding Buttercup the next 2 days.
Thanks man! I’m so jealous that your there riding this weekend! Have fun man and keep the rubber side down 😬🤘
The suspension though 🔥
Such a sweet TRX!!!
awesome video pete!
I think i saw this video for like 20 times now hahaha, love the suspension game of that quad :)
Dean Sundahl built this suspension first on Banshees, 250R, and TRX450. I wonder how much of his geometry was used. 🤔
The Sundahl designs definitely influenced their ideas. Unfortunately custom frames are pretty expensive so the idea of implementing some of this tech into bolt on kits is pretty clever. I can't wait to try a modern machine with their kit. Just seeing one of the Sundahl banshees would be amazing let alone watching one in action. I'd be nervous to ride one 😆😅🤘
@@PeteHager don't let him sugarcoat it, this guy stole Sundahl's design. Ask Dean if you want to know the truth.
Absolutely..this guy worked with Dean. And stole it.. I'm friends with Dean.. Dean is making his original chassis right now
This is Dean Sundal’s x-travel design for the banshee and this dude is taking the credit😂
That thing is incredible!
Another great video Pete as always. Live Fast and Ride Smooth 🤙🏻👍🏻
Remember looking back at when he was a 6 k subs
This machine is very cool 😎
Hehehe i have been waiting for this vid! I need all the info. What size tires, have they weighed it, what are the draw backs to such a complex suspension set up, when is it going to be available for the public, and how wide was it?😂😂
😅 well I’m sure the tires were 23’s and 22’s. I’m not sure how much the machine weighed but probably not much more than a standard TRX if it is heavier. There really isn’t a lot of draw backs to a set up like that if your free riding regularly. I think it would be a lot of fun to try out in a variety of situations. The bolt on kits are ready for YFZ450R’s and TRX450R’s. If you want to really learn about everything I would reach out to XTravel directly 👍
Also it was 50 inches wide 👍
Wow that’s wicked awesome
Love the riding community cause if there cool they let u ride there quads/bikes
" It feels so big" i bet it did pal!
Looks like the same general theory of the Ford TTB. They had massive travel.
That things looks sick👌
Hey Pete! I love your videos and know that this one is going to be great as always! 🤙👊 Just wondering, how often to you check the save sport quads email for quad of the day? I sent you an a email a few months ago for Instagram quad of the day.
Hey Jake, did you send a lot of photos with the machine? It may have been missed, Connor and I both check the emails
So cool!
You should go ride at Cinder Hill in Flagstaff Az.
next time take a drone fpv to follow the quad man that looks good
Sick I think ima buy some
When are you coming to Dumont😏
Yeah
We plan to return to the imperial dunes again this November. Maybe we can work Dumont into that trip!
@@PeteHager Maybe for the Halloween event 👀
Sundahl did that 30 years ago and still makes that type of shit to this day. That dude on this vid is profiting off another mans innovation and trying to take credit
Nice machine💪
Straight Nasty!!!💯🔥🤘🏼🤘🏼
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Was it light?
I think it would be easier to compare the weight if we did more jumping with it. Just riding it around it felt a little heavier then a regular 450 but it had so much traction that maybe that’s why I had that sensation. It was super smooth and predictable, I thought about it for weeks after riding it 🤪😅
Are you going to be out there tomorrow cause I’m going there tomorrow
Holy wheel travel Batman!
Very cool setup for the dunes!
So when you say it feels big is that just because its so tall?
The whole thing in general just felt scaled up. Like a jacked up 450 almost 😅 it was very predictable
@@PeteHager gotcha!
great vid just got a z400 im 14 thoughts you should upload more
Congrats on getting a Z400! I bet your stoked! 😬 I wish I could make these videos faster but there’s been a lot going on behind the scenes for the future. Maybe someday I’ll have an editor to help.. just subtitling this video took 8-10 hours 😅🤦♂️
@@PeteHager oh wow yeah your doing a great job I am stoked
Hey man!
Bell gang
Come to Arizona 😏
Sweet Quad
I want to do this to my 400, but I'm not sure if it'll be worth it
i probably wouldnt, lots of messing around, just wait a couple years im sure he will release a bolt on kit eventually for a 400.
Thanks for the advise man.
@@gavinremer1450 yes no problem, I ride a trx 450, but I live in Canada, we don't have dunes, not something id put on my quad, but if I rode dunes constantly i probably would put it on.
@@piketerritory244 It's not worth it for duning either. These long travel kits really only benefit you in desert terrain with huge rocks and chewed up whoops. It's too soft for Glamis or any sand dunes for that matter. In the dunes you want more of an mx setup with paddles.
Pete, you should try out the Suzuki LTZ250 or the 400
My aunt has a 400 and I have a 250
I’m thinking about buying her 400 now that she has a side by side and I will need a bigger quad soon
I would love to ride one, it's been quite awhile. They're definitely the most advanced platform in the 400 class. If your aunts is in great shape it sounds like an awesome upgrade!
I have a kfx 400 it’s the same as the ltz 400 my makes 65 horse power and 42 pounds of torque it’s one of not many making this much power if you need any head porting done tho I took a stock z400 ported the head and made 11 horse power just off of a head
Looks like a dean sundahl front end style
💪🏻‼️
Which helmet brand do you think is the best and what helmet do you use
I haven't done a lot of research on helmets. I know a lot of the brands comply to the same safety standards so as the price goes up they tend to just get lighter and lighter. Wish I could be of more help
@@PeteHager your response has helped a lot. Now i can just get a helmet that i like and can afford
@@cgib2600 Awesome! I've always been told that $100 helmet should protect you just as well as a $500. I'm sure in testing scenarios there could be increased safety benefits to the more top shelf helmets but you'll still be safe even with a cheaper one because of the safety standards they all meet 👍
Looks like a stock rear shock? Biggest problem on the TRX was the back end bucking thru the whoops instead of soaking them up.
I'm assuming he had a Fox shock on the rear as well. I think this was a true no link set up in the rear. Unfortunately we didn't get a good walk around vide of the quad.. that was my bad 🤦♂️ XTravel has my rear YFZ shock right now for a revalving and were setting up their "no link linkage". I'm pretty excited to try it out!
You need to do that to your yfz or 700
Maybe someday 😅 it’s pretty cool technology!
do you have a website yet?
Yep. It’s petehager.com 👍
Pete, have you ever ride a ds 650? 🤣 That's a big quad 🙈🤣
I rode one many years ago! I would love to try one again, they're definitely huge machines!
Sick video$ would like to see the way it handles donuts and figure 8s. I want that for my gasgas quad. Will you do a pro bono suspension set up on it? Jk Not
All that for 15" of travel? Dean Sundahl was the pioneer of over center arms on a quad. His set up had 18-20. My trx front kit is totally bolt on, 4130 and plus 2.5" per side, has 14" travel with the stock showas
It's cool, but from far it sounds like it's kinda struggling going up the dunes, also its definently better to run paddles and razors or doughnuts on the front to plane the sand, that's the reason it doesent turn too hot.
Definitely great advice! Paddles would've helped a lot but this quad isn't exactly built for the sand dunes, its more for pounding out desert whoops and rough, rocky terrain.. It was still fun to ride nonetheless, it's set up really reduces ride fatigue 👍😊
@@PeteHager yeah I wasn't trying to bash the quad but that thing can definently be a duner if the owner gets front tires for sand and paddle just so it hooks up better.
@@manny.9273 I know you weren't 😊 It would be sick to implement this tech into a straight dune machine with some higher HP numbers 😲 I've been fantasizing about an XTravel Raptor 🤪
When you coming to Johnson valley CA
How much travel does it pull ?
He said the front end had 15 inches and I want to say the rear is a little less
Didn't Dean Sundahl create a Banshee with this setup 30 years ago?
From my understanding Sundahl definitely created the concept a long time ago with banshee’s like you said. This machine was built a few years ago and it seems to carry on the concept. Unfortunately custom frames are more expensive and tedious to set up compared to a bolt on kit. That’s why XTravel has taken the idea and implemented it into bolt on kits. They call it BVS and XLinkX technology. Riding a Sundahl Banshee would be ridiculous 🤪😅
What gear do you use when you ride trails with you raptor
Gear preference is up to the rider and the machine. The Raptor can be lugged around because it has so much torque. I enjoy 3rd gear trails. Those speeds are more forgiving and playful. If speeds are high then normally the trail isn’t very technical. It’s getting harder and harder to find actual ATV trail with all the SxS’s these days..
Nice ATV
When his he going to start selling that set up? I wanna try
You can buy this complete front end kits for the YFZ and TRX 450’s. He also sells a rear “no link linkage” that helps eliminate the quad buck in the whoops. I’m looking to do his rear end set up to the YFZ. Maybe down the road we’ll do the front end kit. Definitely contact them if your interested! 👍🤘
What size tires did the trx have ?
Most likely 23 inch fronts and 22 inch rears. That’s common in desert racing! A lot of guys run that set up when they have mud races in GNCC as well to increase ground clearance 👍
👌🤟
What compression is the Piston?
I can't remember unfortunately, I'm sure he would respond if you commented and asked on one of his instagram posts 👍
Pete I have a question I am new to riding and I want to start with a sport quad, but what do you recommend ?
Get a Honda Trx 250cc since your a beginner. These machines are strong and can take a beating
Hey Mario, like the above comments the Honda 250EX is a great starter quad but if your an older person that’s bigger in size it may be too small for you. Starting in the 400 category could be more practical. Something a 400ex or Z400 would be an excellent starting machine as well 👍
Thank you all for the info I appreciate it
No I was
Nice! Whoop scissors on a couch.
sounds like a marketing strategy 😂😂
15 inches what is it a rock climber
No a Baja bike
I was first like and comment
AYO EARLY
Hi
Nobody:
This Guy: wow.
What about trx700xx
But why didn't you test the new system? That's the old system.
This was filmed before the bolt on kits were officially released. When I return next time I hope to see and ride the new set ups! 👍
Yooo early
sup
Those front fenders remind me of cheap condoms, they dont protect you from anything. 😂
Why would someone have a sand bike in the mud or vice versa?
When can u sell me a quad ?
8:28, that's what she said.
Still looks like a rough ride..to be real honest. Just gives a different sensation
Or a mud bike in the sand ? This example
No suspension for the raptors 😢
I know.. I wish they would've pursued the sport ATV's but the UTV market is so much larger and they've since focused their efforts on the SXS's 🥺
This is not a new design, it's a copy of Dean Sundahl design. Dean has been doing these styles of frames for a long time.
She's a floater
One st no :( sad
Dean sundal has been building this style style chassis since 2000 ..
X-travle stolen the design..
Look up SRP BANSHEE
Can't believe you still use thumb throttle.. so lame