8 banned racing cars at Goodwood | Festival of Speed

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  • Sometimes cars are banned for being, just a bit too good, sometimes cars are banned for safety reasons, sometimes cars see the rules change to effectively ban them and sometime cars just completely and utterly break the rules until they are banned.
    The cars in this video, all conform to one fo those scenarios, but since we love all motorsport history at Goodwood, each one has been seen on the famous Hill at the Festival of Speed presented by Mastercard.
    It’s quite a mix too, from the Celica GT-Four, which would eventually be thrown out of the championship in its later guise for pushing the rules so far it was just plain breaking them, to the Lotus 56 turbine car, which was effectively banned when turbine-powered cars were outlawed at the Indy 500. Some of them we think are just really cool innovations, and some really did overstep the mark, but all deserve to be showcased in motorsport history.
    Let us know which is you favourite banned racing car.
    #FOS #banned #motorsport
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    00:14 Toyota Celica GT-Four
    01:25 Brabham BT46B “fan car”
    02:10 Chaparral 2E
    02:51 Chaparral 2J
    03:37 Lotus 56
    04:35 Chevrolet Hendrick “T-Rex”
    06:19 Plymouth Superbird
    07:44 Lotus 88
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  • @GoodwoodRR
    @GoodwoodRR  2 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    Which car should never have been banned?

    • @eriksantoso1741
      @eriksantoso1741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      Mazda rotary

    • @BOABModels
      @BOABModels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      The Superbird showed that NASCAR was afraid of innovation.

    • @freejrs
      @freejrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The Brabham and the Toyota were never banned in the first place.

    • @jameshancock6745
      @jameshancock6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Why was the celiac banned??

    • @jameshancock6745
      @jameshancock6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      *celica

  • @demonhighwayman9403
    @demonhighwayman9403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5584

    A brief explanation about why they were banned would have been interesting.

    • @jdalzell3354
      @jdalzell3354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      ditto on that.

    • @CarlosFlores-pl3lb
      @CarlosFlores-pl3lb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +405

      At least the 2J I know of.
      The 2J basically sucks itself to the ground with fans, it creates a ton of downforce pulling itself to the ground. Those flaps on the side help create a vacuum seal. When it competed in Can-Am series in the 70s it outpaced every single car by a couple of seconds, though the fans failed often so it wasn't even that good. Eventually other manufacturers complained to the SCCA and they ended up banning that kind of technology.

    • @fearofducks6519
      @fearofducks6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1075

      Just for anyone curious:
      Toyota Celica GT-Four: got banned because they got caught cheating with a turbo that was made to look like it's legal but it wasn't.
      Brabham BT46B: Technically first it got withdrew, then it got banned. It was a second faster than any car,and the fan was dangerous.
      Chaparral 2E: Got banned for the wing because it was an active aerodynamic part and it wasn't allowed.
      Chaparral 2J: Got banned for the fan because it was an active aerodynamic part and it wasn't allowed.
      Lotus 56: The turbo version was banned because it was very fast.
      Chevy T-Rex: Banned because...it would have won every race?
      Superbird: Banned for safety reasons and because it did not look like a stock car.
      Lotus 88: That, and ground effect cars in general were banned because they were dangerously quick.

    • @OggaDugga
      @OggaDugga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      @@fearofducks6519 technically the Brabham fan wasn’t dangerous at all. Gordon Murray even said the fans speed was only 55MPH and anything that hit it would be shot out sideways. Andretti complained about it as an excuse to make it banned quickly.

    • @sPACEesport
      @sPACEesport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Celica GTFour : Had a secret air intake for the turbo to bypass the air restrictor
      Brabham "fan car" : had a turbine linked to the "classic" engine to stick the car to the ground with forced ground effect
      2E : was the first active wings racecar
      2J : same as the brabham, turbine fan to stick the car to the ground
      Lotus 56 : well, too good for other cars, had to be heavy BoPed
      Lotus 88 : double chassis, one fixed with the engine, and the other sticking the car to the ground (due to "ground effect") with the speed.
      Resume : Colin Chapman was a god.

  • @diablo_rosso
    @diablo_rosso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1313

    For those wondering why these cars were banned:
    Toyota GT Four: Hidden elastic washers could bypass the restrictor plate(One of the cleverest "cheating" methods in WRC ).
    Brabhan BT46B: Used a fan to create down force, considered a moving aerodynamic part.
    Chaparral 2E: High strut mounted wings were outlawed in all forms of motorsport due to safety.
    Chaparral 2J : Used a fan to create down force, considered a moving aerodynamic part.
    Lotus 56: Used a turbine engine that were later banned.
    Chevy "TRex" : Just too fast for NASCAR, as per Hendrick racing the rule books were changed after it qualified inspection specifically to
    ban this car.
    Superbird: Concerns by NASCAR that aero cars are becoming too fast and are therefore unsafe, the car was also heavily modified and was considered to be too different from stock for stock car racing.
    Lotus 88: Twin Chassis design to take advantage of ground effect, twin tubs were considered as moving aerodynamic devices

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Probably the most accurate explanations, yet.

    • @DrMurdercock
      @DrMurdercock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Thanks for doing the video editors job. I appreciate the information

    • @Joop.23-2-63
      @Joop.23-2-63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well said, well explained.

    • @kanethompson708
      @kanethompson708 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank You!

    • @Douken
      @Douken ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wonder if the Brabham would be allowed today since the McMurthy Speirling uses moving Aero.

  • @StevenP727
    @StevenP727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +532

    *NOTE* THESE ARE NOT BANNED CARS FROM GOODWOOD
    It's race cars that was banned from their respectable series.

    • @Matto8827
      @Matto8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Was going to say I’m sure I saw a few of those the other week there🙈 thanks for clearing that up 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sahhull
      @sahhull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well Doh!!! .. Stating the obvious there

    • @brankdatank840
      @brankdatank840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Im totally new to goodwood races, never heard of it and i really did not understand why these cars should be banned from this track. Thank you!

    • @toucheturtle3840
      @toucheturtle3840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Banned from Goodwood….We’re watching them at Goodwood….plank.

    • @psyaviah
      @psyaviah ปีที่แล้ว

      Aha! Thanks for clarifying!!

  • @jdmlover1084
    @jdmlover1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2176

    I think the title is tricking some people but these are cars that have been banned from their racing series not actual Goodwood. At least that’s what I’m guessing

    • @amielterence
      @amielterence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      Definitely thought the cars were banned from Goodwood. Then watching all the cars I’m like everyone of these cars got banned at some point... then I went “oh...”

    • @albert9784
      @albert9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Goodwood is made for all historic cars

    • @Melinx
      @Melinx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      it's cars that have been banned, doing some stuff at goodwood

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That title is tricking me lol

    • @charlesshreeve319
      @charlesshreeve319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep I was thinking: If they're banned, how do they have video of them running at FOS? Then it dawned on me.....

  • @joshuajacome8803
    @joshuajacome8803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1273

    You gotta love the Lotus driver with his flappy ears helmet

  • @XskiXedgeX
    @XskiXedgeX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +711

    Guess I'm not alone in completely misunderstanding the title.

    • @blxtothis
      @blxtothis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well yes, they are at Goodwood so that explains that.

    • @charlesshreeve319
      @charlesshreeve319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For a moment.....

    • @dawhiteman1451
      @dawhiteman1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      These are cars that got banned from competition driving around at goodwood.

    • @antoninmotte1620
      @antoninmotte1620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dawhiteman1451 why are they been banned?

    • @dawhiteman1451
      @dawhiteman1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antoninmotte1620 They didn't meet regulations

  • @RetroGamerr1991
    @RetroGamerr1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    All right so there's an interesting story behind the T-Rex after looking it up. Ray Evernham applied a lot of short track knowledge to that car that was technically inside the rule books. He removed a lot of unsprung weight from components like having hollow axles, titanium hubs and an aluminum driveshaft. He moved the shocks outboard and raised the frame rails to allow for a Venturi effect under the car. It was a full second faster than the entire field throughout the only race it ever ran.

  • @mozopoiluche5928
    @mozopoiluche5928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Chaparral 2J was my absolutely nightmare on Gran Turismo 4, just unbeatable.

    • @rafaelsaez5596
      @rafaelsaez5596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      On GT6 as well, it was just cartoonishingly fast.

    • @sprite1086
      @sprite1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And very undrivable too lol

    • @SenseiRaisen
      @SenseiRaisen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Somehow the AI was glueled to the ground with that thing. It was the "like a wind" nightmare.

    • @kvatikoss1730
      @kvatikoss1730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I swear its top speed its faster than a fighter jet.

    • @mmmmmmmmmm.m.
      @mmmmmmmmmm.m. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spent to long messing with that car 😭🤘

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    The tricky thing with the BT46B is that it requires a different driving style to get the most out of it - as the fan drive was attached to the crankshaft, you wanted to enter a corner at max revs for the best suction, rather than at lower revs so you can drive yourself out of the corner.

    • @mikeyh55
      @mikeyh55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Sounds similar to the Red Bull in F1 when it had the blown diffuser, higher revs meant faster cornering speeds. Vettel got the hang of it but must have been strange to drive.

    • @amedeofelix
      @amedeofelix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The fan wasn't connected for this run in any case.

    • @SmolWeeblet
      @SmolWeeblet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the old cars everyone was in the high revs to avoid the massive turbo lagg

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@SmolWeeblet No turbos on this car - remember, this car was from '78. Renault had barely started playing with turbos (unreliably) the year before, and many teams would be sticking with the tried-and-true formula of V8, V12 or flat 12 for some years yet. The Brabham BT40B used an Alfa Romeo 3.0 flat 12. But because the fan was driven directly off the engine, the greatest suction was found at redline, so that's the revs at which you _entered_ a corner, instead of dropping the revs so you could accelerate through the corner a bit before having to shift up. It required a rather different driving style to normal F1 cars of the period, but history shows that it was surprisingly effective.

    • @SmolWeeblet
      @SmolWeeblet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aussiebloke609 ah I see, thank you.

  • @Sparkyy_95
    @Sparkyy_95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Wrong Celica at the start, the ST185 was not banned. The ST205 was banned from WRC after engineers created a genius bypass of the restrictor on the intake of the turbo, thus making more boost and power.

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Hence we mentioned in the description that it was the final version that was banned.

    • @wadedixon6780
      @wadedixon6780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@GoodwoodRR then why include the 185 in the video at all? Seems a bit weird.

    • @farhanpratama0285
      @farhanpratama0285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's dangerous like group b more crashes.

    • @calibrazxr750
      @calibrazxr750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@GoodwoodRR then perhaps footage of said final version should have been used. The title says banned cars and the first car featured was one that wasn't banned. Pretty poor job really.

    • @calibrazxr750
      @calibrazxr750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dariusz Kanak uninformed, get educated.

  • @jellobunn
    @jellobunn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The Plymouth Superbird is such a beauty

    • @R34GTRR35
      @R34GTRR35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ugliest car In History

    • @jkim6200
      @jkim6200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely an acquired taste. Beautiful more for what and who it represents.

    • @jkim6200
      @jkim6200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@R34GTRR35 Maybe... Some people have negative opinion of the two cars mentioned in your ID.

  • @RockTuner
    @RockTuner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    It's great to see Jeff Gordon's T-Rex still runs great and still do burnouts!

    • @radioactivetrees9626
      @radioactivetrees9626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol that rubber it left though.

    • @Dalegot07
      @Dalegot07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why wouldn’t it? It’s not the car Jeff blew up after he crossed the line. It was the motor he dropped the clutch to blow going into 1. The only thing special about that car went up in smoke when the checkered flew.

    • @robertrotz4717
      @robertrotz4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dalegot07 I don't believe he blew the engine it even passed post race inspection but was so dominant that they changed rules specifically to make the t-rex cars setup illegal after that race if I remember the story correctly they even ran the chassis one time after and it didn't do too well so they retired it

    • @MichaelSmith-kr9qw
      @MichaelSmith-kr9qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The TREX was banned for the simple reason the car used underbody aero tricks to get the car sucked down to the tarmac along with other tricks of the trade like hollow axle tubes and the floorpan was raised to get the chassis closer to the ground the shocks were outboard of the axle. Even the drivetrain components were lightened. Interesting fact is none of the Hendrick Teams couldn't get it to work then they decided to throw a different spring package at it in Charlotte it ended up a second quicker than any other Hendrick chassis during testing. Jeff won the race pocketed the $1,000,000 purse it passed tech and then Bill France made the call to ban the car and rewrote the rules to make sure it wouldn't ever compete again.

    • @police428
      @police428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertrotz4717 that was Micheal Waltrip and Junior Johnson in the Winston Open. JJ had made a bad fast car, with even a badder motor. Which cost him a fortune. After starting towards the rear of the field and came up during the event. The moment it crossed the line, the engine blew up. But to all Nascars knowledge, it was within regulation. (VERY SHORT VERSION)

  • @randalljames1
    @randalljames1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    00:14 Toyota Celica GT-Four (cheating)
    01:25 Brabham BT46B “fan car” (active vacuum to stick car down)
    02:10 Chaparral 2E "Active suspension"
    "2:51 Chaparral 2J "even better active suspension
    03:37 Lotus 56 "Turbine power"
    04:35 Chevrolet Hendrick “T-Rex” "Everham built the car "to the book" but found a few points (front bumper) that made the car dominate.
    06:19 Plymouth Superbird "Banned with other aero cars as speeds were getting too fast.. big motors also axed..
    07:44 Lotus 88 "Active aeros that let the car dominate.. **note to self, if your car kills? just win by a little bit, not 20 minutes ahead..

    • @andymb601
      @andymb601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2J was for active aero and there was then a complete ban of all active aero for can am, meaning Nissan had to redesign their wing. 88 was primarily for trying to use two chassis to try and get the recently banned skirts back in use, but the suspension was partially involved

  • @TheRouger7
    @TheRouger7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Where's the explanation of why each were banned?

    • @I_Hate_Youtube_Handles
      @I_Hate_Youtube_Handles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They weren't banned from FoS, it's cars that were banned from their respective racing series
      T-Rex cause and I quote "it's easier to kill Frankenstein's monster than it is to get along with it"

    • @DapperHesher
      @DapperHesher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Banned" is a bit melodramatic and overused term. Generally, aspects of their design were phased out by rule changes. Almost ALL motorsports has rules and have they've changed over the years. Formula 1, for instance, have uncovered wheels because the Mercedes had two different bodywork configurations for the W196 car, one with fenders for faster circuits like AVUS and one without for tighter circuits (so as to be lighter). Everyone talks about the BT46B fan car this way too. They were told they could run the car for the rest of the season and the following year's rules (on moving aerodynamic devices) would close the loophole, but Brahbham simply withdrew it after a single race.

    • @user-gu1hl2kx2k
      @user-gu1hl2kx2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DapperHesher the trex was banned after just 1 race

    • @pharaohflame315
      @pharaohflame315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DapperHesher After one season, The Superbird and Dodge Daytona were banned for being "too fast" in the 1970 season.

    • @Thatonepixellad
      @Thatonepixellad ปีที่แล้ว

      24 Dupont Trex ver was heckin banned XD

  • @N-Scale
    @N-Scale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love every one of those cars. They represent thinking way outside the box.
    Oh the good old days !!!!!

    • @sPACEesport
      @sPACEesport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mercedes AMG DAS wants to know your location

    • @N-Scale
      @N-Scale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sPACEesport No Thanks

    • @evanyoon1230
      @evanyoon1230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Tyrell P34 was also really iconic, and I’m so thankful it was here this year.

    • @N-Scale
      @N-Scale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanyoon1230 I agree. That is another car I loved. Was always a Jim Hall Fan as a kid as well.

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, for the lotus 56 I believe they were thinking inside the house, hence the doorstop design

  • @1biker4life
    @1biker4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "So excited to hear" then proceeds to talk over the whole time

    • @artem7804
      @artem7804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s his job after all

  • @mooneyes2k478
    @mooneyes2k478 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Brabham 46B wasn't, per se, banned. It was voluntarily withdrawn after only one race, but FIA had ruled that it would be allowed to race the entire season. Bernie Ecclestone didn't want to risk his F1-political aspirations, though, and had it removed.

  • @dancinglizard3080
    @dancinglizard3080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Somebody needs to make a Frankenstein of all the banned cars and then the ultimate being is born 😂

    • @jonbeargenx
      @jonbeargenx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So imagine this setup. A Superbird wing on a 2J wing on a Ford Tyrell 6 wheeler chassis (not featured here, but banned non the less), top it off with some none restricted turbos and a oversized V8. You can finish the rest of the build if you please :)

    • @dancinglizard3080
      @dancinglizard3080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jonbeargenx I'm not that knowledgeable about the banned cars but that setup must be angelic. Just imagine how fast it would be with a modern technology touch added to it 😳

    • @shortscouture1
      @shortscouture1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dancinglizard3080 well probably have to touch things up for aerodynamic purposes

    • @comdrive3865
      @comdrive3865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeargenx With the Celica's ultra-rare gearbox

  • @probablygraham
    @probablygraham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's a sin to hear the Brabham running so slowly. I remember the Alfa V12 engine sounding even better than a Ferrari.

  • @anthonyhewis5083
    @anthonyhewis5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Brabham BT46B was never banned. Bernie Ecclestone withdrew it voluntarily to prevent a split inside the nascent Formula One Constructors Association.

    • @robreeves9825
      @robreeves9825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment needs more likes.

    • @CJ_102
      @CJ_102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it was, or so says wiki : "According to Ecclestone's biographer Terry Lovell, the heads of the other FOCA teams, led by Colin Chapman threatened to withdraw their support for Ecclestone unless he withdrew the BT46B. Ecclestone negotiated a deal within FOCA whereby the car would have continued for another three races before Brabham would voluntarily withdraw it.[21] However, the Commission Sportive Internationale intervened to declare that henceforth fan cars would not be allowed and the car never raced again in Formula One."

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    T-Rex wasn't technically "banned" since it was within the NASCAR Winston Cup Series rulebook... they just told Rick Hendrick, Ray Evernham and Jeff Gordon to not bring it back

  • @fishingthelist4017
    @fishingthelist4017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That odd black thing on the back of the Chaparral 2J was the cover for the fan belts and was called the Martian Bra. Another odd car from the 1970 Can-Am series was the Shadow, which was a small car with 10 and 12 inch wheels, and the radiators buried in a large rear wing to decrease the frontal area of the car. This was also quickly banned. That was the year Bruce McLaren died in an accident testing the M8D Can-Am car at Goodwood.

  • @danny3tricks377
    @danny3tricks377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video had so much potential! Whilst it is lovely to see these cars there is zero information on any of them really or the reason for their ban?! Even a little text banner at the bottom for each vehicle would have been a great addition

  • @wakybee
    @wakybee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its so cool to hear and see these bits of history

  • @Rodrigo.de.Fenix.01
    @Rodrigo.de.Fenix.01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Mopar guy, I must say I loved the Plymouth. An absolutely gorgeous car.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Japanese guy had one in my neighborhood. It was huge!

  • @corm7538
    @corm7538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing this as some of these banned cars I've only ever seen pics or video of them parked in a car museum.

  • @ifitscool
    @ifitscool ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation! Couldnt have said it better myself. 👌

  • @dave8204
    @dave8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw the Chaparral 2F "2E with a roof basically" in the BAOC 500 sportscar race at Brands Hatch in the 60's.also the Lotus Gas Turbine car in either a GP or the Race of Champions.
    I seem to remember the 2F did quite well.
    2J is the world's fastest Dyson.

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of when Ferrari attempted to enter touring car races with the 250LM - Maranello bolted a box on the back, thus giving the car the requisite 'boot'! Needless to say, even the FIA thought it was a step too far LOL!

    • @dylansmit3883
      @dylansmit3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 56B was entered in both. It was on course for a storm up the field in wet weather at Zandvoort due to the AWD but the driver overcooked it and spun off.

  • @bravoA-su8xm
    @bravoA-su8xm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    one guy Smokey Yunick could double the list of cars

    • @troynov1965
      @troynov1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL Aint that the truth !

    • @CarWavExe
      @CarWavExe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tru love that guy

    • @thecouch4702
      @thecouch4702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao and maybe junior johnson?

  • @caturlifelive
    @caturlifelive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the descriptions

  • @Johnny-py6hh
    @Johnny-py6hh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was showered with goosebumps listening to that gorgeous Lotus 88, and I can’t believe those ears stayed on that helmet!

  • @bryandickerson5365
    @bryandickerson5365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What year was Petty in his Superbird at Goodwood? One of my strongest childhood motor-head memories was seeing that combo racing on ‘ABC’s Wide World of Sports’ - 200mph in 1970!

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      2015, we even went to help get it fired up for the first time! th-cam.com/video/C9LFgsLQATc/w-d-xo.html

  • @madhead122
    @madhead122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the subtitles, everytime a car passes by, it says "music" 😁

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E&E (engine & exhaust) genre.

  • @modelcitizen72
    @modelcitizen72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:40 I love this gesture, "IMMORTAN! IMMORTAN JOE!" And in frenzied tribute he takes off his own steering wheel and holds it high for his god to see. So freaking cool.

  • @brentboswell1294
    @brentboswell1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Story of the Plymouth Superbird: Chrysler Corporation had a defense division that built missiles for the US Army. The top brass in the company was wondering why that, despite the best engines in NASCAR, the racers who raced Mopar products kept coming in dead last. Someone in the boardroom pointed out that there were rocket scientists who worked for Chrysler. So the missile engineers were called in, who pointed out the aerodynamic flaws of Chrysler's "sport" coupes. The lead aerodynamicist pointed out some aerodynamic changes that would cut down the aerodynamic drag of the vehicle significant enough to greatly improve the top speed of the vehicle on the new superspeedways, where Chrysler was getting killed by the competition. It also improved the theoretical top speed, to a point where aerodynamic lift would raise the car off the ground, so a spoiler wing would be needed. NASCAR homologation rules required that a certain number of the model be offered for sale to the general public. The weight of the spoiler was too great and the size was too wide to allow the trunk ("boot") to open, so marketing demanded a fix. Thats how the rear wing came about 😉

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That last Lotus was phenomenal.

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw both Chaparels run in the Can Am series.

  • @daisaigaming6836
    @daisaigaming6836 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fan car was not banned, the teams just agreed not to use it.

  • @Gauge167
    @Gauge167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Electric cars will never be this exciting with this much heritage

  • @CARBONIZEDMUNKY
    @CARBONIZEDMUNKY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Having the reasons why they were banned would have been an idea. Food for thought.

    • @craiglopresto3322
      @craiglopresto3322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Banned from their respective racing series not the Festival.

    • @CARBONIZEDMUNKY
      @CARBONIZEDMUNKY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craiglopresto3322 I would say the Festival. I wouldn't want to have people like that on a track I am running an event at. I would want it as safe as possible and people like that just aren't safe, just saying.

    • @SahiPie
      @SahiPie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CARBONIZEDMUNKY what kind of nonsensical response was this lmao?

  • @patrikcsak6104
    @patrikcsak6104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Toyota Celica GT-Four: -Banned for illegal turbo restrictor- Not banned. Team was disqualified for using turbo restrictor to cheat in a later GT-Four
    Brabham BT46: -Banned for fan being a moveable aerodynamic device- Banned for being too good
    Chaparral 2E: Banned for wing strut failures being unsafe
    Chaparral 2J Banned for sliding skirts being moveable aerodynamic devices
    Lotus 56: Banned for using turbine engine
    Chevrolet Hendrick T-Rex: Banned for being too good
    Plymouth Superbird: Banned for dangerously high top speeds
    Lotus 88: Banned for side skirts being moveable aerodynamic devices

    • @freejrs
      @freejrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Brabham fan car was never banned. It was voluntarily withdrawn. It was not in breach of any regulation and was completely legal.

    • @doubled1978
      @doubled1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Toyota wasn’t banned either, the team (Toyota Team Europe) was banned not the car, and it wasn’t even that model involved in the controversy. The cars continued to compete under Toyota Team Sweden and others, but with legal turbos fitted.

    • @freejrs
      @freejrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also your edit for the Brabham is wrong. It was not withdrawn before competition. It won the first and only race it contested and there was no issue with cooling.

  • @stoffl219
    @stoffl219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The GT-Four in this video was not that GT-Four, which was banned. In the Video, the car is earlier than 1995, the banned car was from 1995

  • @ipo7596
    @ipo7596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The lotus 88 was banned cuz that driver had special helmet which produces more downforce. The slap-on ears.

  • @racinggamepocket853
    @racinggamepocket853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:51 aircond box.🤣

  • @maciekwysocki2009
    @maciekwysocki2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wrong toyota. ST 205 was banned for illegal turbo bypass system. Not ST 185. Anyway good stuff despite this.

  • @SamIAm-kz4hg
    @SamIAm-kz4hg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's be honest, the best things about this whole video are the ears on that helmet.

  • @jimtomatola
    @jimtomatola 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superbird / Daytona wasn't banned, simply handicapped out of competitveness by limiting the engine displacement to 305 cu in when everybody else was at 426-427 cu in. Still, one team tried running with the 305 but had engine failures ( trying to get more HP out of less displacement. )

  • @albert9784
    @albert9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6:19 The king of the piston cups

    • @GR1MRACER
      @GR1MRACER 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did what in his cup?

    • @albert9784
      @albert9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GR1MRACER Do you know the Cars trilogy? He's the 7th times winner of the piston cup, only McQueen won 4

    • @zakvilanilam3388
      @zakvilanilam3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albert9784 Bruh he's quoting Tow Mater. He knows about the Cars movie

    • @albert9784
      @albert9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zakvilanilam3388 He seems he doesn't know about cars

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Number 7 Have a look at this vid " Richard Petty's 200mph Plymouth Superbird On The Road " on the channel " Goodwood Road & Racing "

  • @fredscratchet1355
    @fredscratchet1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember the old saying? If you can't beat 'em ban 'em!

  • @luparipiw_ID
    @luparipiw_ID 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    every time, i watch Goodwood FOS i feel goosebump🥺🥺

  • @mopar_dude9227
    @mopar_dude9227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Superbird didn’t really get banned, it had a engine displacement restriction of only 305 cubic inch (vs the 426 Hemi). This applied to the other “aero cars” , Dodge Charger 500, Dodge Charger Daytona, Ford Torino Talladega, and the Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II. Only one team fielded a aero car for the 1971 Daytona 500 using the 305 power plant, the Mario Rossi owned #22 Dodge Daytona driven by Richard Brooks. The 305 cubic inch engine was built by legendary Mopar engine builder Keith Black. The car qualified 8th and led a handful of laps before getting damaged in an altercation, but it still finished 7th overall. So the car could still be run, but it just had to use a smaller engine.
    It would have been nice to have some info about each car and why it was banned.

  • @ElTio.45-70
    @ElTio.45-70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wrong Celica, it was later ST205, which was banned (or, actually the cheater turbo was banned, ST205 rallied later with legal turbo), not the ST185 presented here.

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, acknowledged in the description, we thought it better to show the car on a rally stage, and the ST205 has only been on the hill.

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    How awesome would it be to be banned from GWFoS. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @alfm388
      @alfm388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There not

    • @Mw2_OG
      @Mw2_OG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They were banned for racing in their respective championships/series’ mate, not actually banned by Goodwood.

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It really wouldn't, thankfully none of these cars are banned from FOS.

    • @user-zm5um8ln4e
      @user-zm5um8ln4e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GoodwoodRR what will it take to ban a certain car? lol genuinely curious

    • @anubeia
      @anubeia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If there were a racing car whose performance came from its ability to mess with electronic timing systems or being as wide as the track, that probably wouldn’t be allowed in.

  • @vilter1431
    @vilter1431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its not Banned cars in the Goodwood
    Its Banned cars in their class Driving at Goodwood for those who didnt understand the title

  • @mayuravirus6134
    @mayuravirus6134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chaparral 2j is the embodiment of your competition is eating your dust literally

  • @doctabyte5370
    @doctabyte5370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice to see the Lotus 88 and these other legendary cars in action UwU👌

  • @glenith50
    @glenith50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was disappointed not to see the Ant Hill Mob and Professor Pat Pending but you can't have everything I guess..

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Arkansas Chugabug was my favourite!

  • @awesomegamer7903
    @awesomegamer7903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!!

  • @j0rzeh
    @j0rzeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lotus 88 what an absolute monster of analogue racing car.

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Chaparral 2J "sucker car" was my favorite as a kid, it was so bizarre and it actually worked. This car created a whole new Chaparral fan club. (see what I did there?)

  • @GR1MRACER
    @GR1MRACER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nobody goes full tilt on the cars then there is the Lotus 88.

    • @landhopper4296
      @landhopper4296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect because you need to see why it was banned - over 100 mph the body is pushed down by the air, independent of the suspension and creates a seal with the track and hence more downforce. Chapman’s cars were awesome. We hear what Gordon Murray and Adrian Newey have done, and that’s right and proper but we lost Chapman way too early and I fear he’s getting relegated or forgotten.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@landhopper4296 The most influential designer for about 25 years was Dr Harvey Postlethwaite. The high nose / splitter plate combination came from one of his Tyrrells and is still with us. It will change with the reintroduction of wing cars next year but that idea made flat bottom cars work aerodynamically.

  • @Loulovesspeed
    @Loulovesspeed ปีที่แล้ว

    @3:19 - Hard to believe that a 2 cylinder, 40 hp engine drowns out a 650 hp 427 V8 race engine.....but it does! Incredibly creative machine.

  • @MMurad3
    @MMurad3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:17 "I'm just so excited to hear what it sounds like"
    Don't shut up even for a second and don't let anyone hear what it sounds like

  • @arnandaifandhi606
    @arnandaifandhi606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought it was banned from Goodwood ferstival 🤣🤣

  • @FranklyNorman
    @FranklyNorman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gotta love a NASCAR doing a standing burnout and generally being a Yank for the British dog and pony crowd

    • @46wireboy
      @46wireboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@King-er7ef Clown; give it a break about your specialized non-racing burnout cars.

    • @QuadMochaMatti
      @QuadMochaMatti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a Yank, I was embarrassed that It (literally) had to stink up an otherwise interesting lineup. NASCAR is acceptable when you're an adolescent and watching it on TV whilst flicking through the channels, but it's pretty boring after that point.

  • @leaf3909
    @leaf3909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Lotus 56 looks awesome.

  • @davidmedrano2426
    @davidmedrano2426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy how some cars came out of museums and get semi rebuild to run again!

  • @GDH1981
    @GDH1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The BT46B wasn’t banned, it was withdrawn by Ecclestone

    • @DapperHesher
      @DapperHesher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Stuff tends to get phased out by the rules, loopholes get closed, etc. "Banned" is so melodramatic, like their against the law or something. As long as the PPIHC exists, they have a place they can race.

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DapperHesher The other F1 drivers basically held a meeting, saying that the 46B was throwing up stones and other débris at the following drivers. It later turned out that it did nothing of the sort, but the other drivers invented a way of having the car banned. Bernie withdrew the car before the inevitable happened...

    • @DapperHesher
      @DapperHesher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulcaswell2813 Gordon has also said in interviews as well that it wasn't long before the tunnel cars were making more downforce in most of the corners than the BT46 anyway and without the weight of the fan system. Other than the standing starts and the lowest speed corners where the static downforce would be advantageous, it would have been the inferior route.

  • @stevehhall3385
    @stevehhall3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An interesting video,
    Or it would have been if we had known why they were banned..

  • @iamcxncept2230
    @iamcxncept2230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Chaparel engine sound is divine.

  • @xvdd1
    @xvdd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Brabham was the fastest vacuum cleaner ever built.

  • @thecroweau
    @thecroweau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Some context for some of these would have been good during the clip...

    • @11mousa
      @11mousa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brabham and second Chaparall: because they had fans, who sucked them to the ground.
      First Chaparall: Active aerodynamic unit.
      T-Rex: Because it was too fast (afaik, it was perfectly built acording to the regulatory, but simply made all the other cars look bad)
      Plymouth: Short answer: It was too old. Longer answer: despite still being competitive, it didn't meet safety standards anymore, and due to new sales regulations (back then, they needed to produce and sell a certain amount of Stock cars), it was over
      Lotus 56: Gas turbine and AWD

    • @bradyjackson8829
      @bradyjackson8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do know that the T. rex and the super bird were banned for just being to fast in comparison to the competition

  • @alexbernadina3082
    @alexbernadina3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Brabham BT46B wasn't banned , Bernie withdrew it.

  • @jimburns3636
    @jimburns3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You omitted Michael May's winged Porsche 550, banned at Nurburgring in 1956 because the Porsche team was humiliated that it was faster in practice than the factory cars. This was more than a decade before Jim Hall slapped a big wing onto a Chaparral 2.

  • @jasmijnariel
    @jasmijnariel ปีที่แล้ว

    That 88 looks amazing! The helmet of the pilot didnt😂😁

  • @gregfelix6979
    @gregfelix6979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time I’ve seen footage of the BT46B, the fan is never turning…

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fins you see at the back of the car are the mounting not the actual fan blades.

    • @gregfelix6979
      @gregfelix6979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobroberts2371 ahhh… Thank you!

    • @jamesreynolds2867
      @jamesreynolds2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In answer to Greg Felix Gordon Murray very cleverly designed the fan to be activated by a series of clutches, so in a straight line it had minimal to no downforce, so sometimes it was not rotating at all.

  • @YukioBR
    @YukioBR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best clickbait i ever see :D

  • @joshrussiff4011
    @joshrussiff4011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would be cool to have is a banned cars category with the rule breaking details as to why they were banned in the first place.

  • @gurturacing
    @gurturacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty to @Storm Raging
    Solo para cualquiera que tenga curiosidad:
    Toyota Celica GT-Four: fue prohibido porque los atraparon haciendo trampa con un turbo que se hizo para que pareciera legal, pero no lo era.
    Brabham BT46B: Técnicamente, primero se retiró y luego se prohibió. Era un segundo más rápido que cualquier coche y el ventilador era peligroso.
    Chaparral 2E: se prohibió el ala porque era una parte aerodinámica activa y no estaba permitida.
    Chaparral 2J: Fue prohibido para los fanáticos porque era una parte aerodinámica activa y no estaba permitida.
    Lotus 56: La versión turbo fue prohibida porque era muy rápida.
    Chevy T-Rex: Prohibido porque ... ¿habría ganado todas las carreras?
    Superbird: Prohibido por razones de seguridad y porque no parecía un stock car.
    Lotus 88: Eso y los coches de efecto suelo en general estaban prohibidos porque eran peligrosamente rápidos.

  • @zacdawack
    @zacdawack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the NASCAR stock car got banned for being too American at the start.

    • @46wireboy
      @46wireboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope; it got banned from RACING because it used underbody aerodynamics that was new and unlike all the other cars at the time.

  • @KimiButNoDrink
    @KimiButNoDrink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:19 DINOCO

    • @albert9784
      @albert9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually is Sunoco the original

    • @KimiButNoDrink
      @KimiButNoDrink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albert9784 Yeah I know that it just always gives me nostalgia from watching it as a kid

  • @melbguy1
    @melbguy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geez that Lotus is a weapon!

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Percentage of comments stating the BT46B wasn’t banned but withdrawn by Ecclestone: 68% of total comments.

  • @Sharrendan
    @Sharrendan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As long as it has at least a 4 cyl gas engine and at minimum 4 wheels, pls don't ban it. 🤣

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the turbine cars such as the Lotus?

  • @dr-zieg
    @dr-zieg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was hoping for explanations for why each one was banned. Or perhaps a description of the unfair advantage they had. Thumbs down for this one :(

  • @pugachevskobra5636
    @pugachevskobra5636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Project Cars 2 has the turbine Lotus 56 and it’s a dream to drive; insanely fun and fast.

  • @manuelcarvalho8547
    @manuelcarvalho8547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great chanel........

  • @PistonAvatarGuy
    @PistonAvatarGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thumbnail should have instantly clarified the meaning of the title, for any serious piston head.

  • @Thors_Garage
    @Thors_Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just so we're clear the BT46B fan car was never technically banned. It was withdrawn before it could be banned

  • @theephemeralglade1935
    @theephemeralglade1935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chaparral 2J, aka, "The squadron of Spitfires."

  • @danieljohnson9351
    @danieljohnson9351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Chaparral 2E and the Superbird! I guess I just like tall wings.

  • @gymusen
    @gymusen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chaparral 2J haunts me every time I see it on any Gran Turismo game

    • @blood_v12_89
      @blood_v12_89 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gotta admit......its such a awsome car :))

  • @johanneshaukanes4531
    @johanneshaukanes4531 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:34 That`s some huge back wheels :D
    5:28 XD haha.
    6:59 Very cool

  • @paulv5260
    @paulv5260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allegedly banned car video, but nothing is said why they were banned.,.. great video .. very informative...lmao

  • @dunkcsa9780
    @dunkcsa9780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love that Brabham fan car, so glad the company's making new cars again too

  • @harrymc9263
    @harrymc9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2J reminds me of warm summer days cutting the grass

  • @iallen4
    @iallen4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is basically a video showcasing different breakthroughs in motorsports throughout the years

  • @justinheretotroll3032
    @justinheretotroll3032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Lotus 56 is hands down my favorite car ever.

  • @jamesreynolds2867
    @jamesreynolds2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From memory, the only car that was specifically banned from the Goodwood Festival was the " new" lightweight Jaguar E-Type, these were completed a few years ago, by the same Jaguar engineers who built the 1960s original lightweight, and built by Jaguar, in the same factory, 20 were planned originally but only 13 were built, so Jaguar finished building the remaining 7, but his Lordship would not accept them, calling them replicas, if you are the owner of Goodwood, you can do as you see fit.

    • @46wireboy
      @46wireboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They weren't banned from Goodwood; they were banned from competition and are being seen AT Goodwood.