How to fit a shower tray | Tutorial | Video Guide | DIY | Bathroom Hacks
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- Kris demonstrates how to install a new shower tray in a bathroom as well as showing how to connect the waste.
In this video the tray is an ideal standard quadrant tray 900x800mm.
The boards used are Wedi www.justwedi.c... or Jakoboard
If you stick a tray down and there is movement in the building the tray will crack as its basically a big thick tile. 5/1 sand and cement mix for the tray to sit on. Every building moves and a few mm can crack a tray if its stuck down
No, flexible tile adhesive.
Nope, if you use a flexible/rubber tile adhesive, this allows for floor movement, without it affecting the tray. If you use a sand and cement mix, you need to lay a membrane down first. You always need a buffer between movement and fixed/static.
Hello,
You should try to use vacuum cups to hold the tray when puting it into postiton. I think you will like it.
Also, a smal vacuum cup on a rod would to help you screwing that stuf without having to leave your hand inside it.
Cheers!
There's little agreement to be found on this topic. You're all just doing your best and getting by. The shower is the hardest item in the bathroom because it is so inaccessible when it does leak and will need to be destroyed in order to fix it. Arm yourself with as much fundamental logic as you can bear and good luck to you how it works out. The worst that can happen is having to do it all again down the line in this existence we call life. If you want to know any answers regarding the meaning of life if indeed there is any, do not look any further than youtube itself. But by the time youve watched it all, it might have run out and you'll regret ever reading the comments section in the first place.
My recommendation is to follow the manufacturers installation instructions which for a stone shower tray will almost certainly be to bed it on sand and cement.
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Exactly my question! fit shower tray and waste after.. thank for that. good job i have small hands!
A classic recipe of how to cause your shower tray to crack.All buildings move a little,by bonding the tray to the floor at some point the tray will eventually crack.The secret to properly installing this type of shower is to follow the manufacturers instructions!
I wouldn't like to be the one having to smash it off when replacing the bathroom in 30 years as well
Thanks Kris, this is great info, helped me out massively. How long do you leave the primer to set 1 to 2 hours before adding the adhesive, i am using mapei rapidset adhesive
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Best video I've seen on this
Why does the tray need to be stuck to the floor? What about the wood expanding and contracting?
It should never be stuck to the floor
Never stuck it on the floor that rule number 1.
Can you stick it the floor if it tiles
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Ideal Standard's instructions for these trays do state that a min 10mm bed of ceramic floor tile adhesive could be used or sand and cement with a plasticiser. Maybe some of the comments telling you to read the MI should read it themselves 😅
Good quality video and suitably informative. Nicely done Gonzo. I will treat myself to your other plumbing delights over Christmas. ⚒⚒⚒
no washer or silicone between the waste and tray?
Very Good, wonderful!! Well done!!! Thanks
Greets from NZ. Thank you for showing that, even 'though I'm not doing one, I still find it interesting. Thanks once again for your time and the quality of your vids.
I'd be wary of using tile adhesive as it's too strong and can lead to tray cracking, Manufacturer's Instructions usually say use a WEAK sand and cement mix for this reason. The cement is not to stick the tray to the floor but to simply allow a load bearing surface. Follow the M I s or lose the warranty.
Why not call Ideal Standard and ask if tile adhesive is ok?
yeh with you on this one, sticking its not good.
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Ideal Standard's instructions for this tray actually specify sand and cement with plasticiser or ceramic floor tile adhesive with a min 10mm bed.
I personally lay tray
Draw round it
Cut floor tile to fit but don’t fix floor tiles
Then remove a bit floor board and then can get hand under neath shower tray to put tray on
Then test with water for leaks ,
Doing it your way , how are you 100 percent sure your trap isn’t leaking ?
Hi Kris great video which has helped a lot. My question is,,,, when you say seal the edges of the shower tray,,,, what do you use for the sealing based on the video.
Thanks buddy I’ll have a go now.
No seal strip on back of tray?
Never seen a tray put in with tile adhesive before,shrinkage might be a problem if it get wet.
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Thanks for the video.. So that board doesn't need tanking then as it's waterproof?
8:09 are you going to have a removable panel on the back of tha toilet? How is the cistern going to be accessed?
What kind of 'tile adhesive' were you using there - mortar (i.e. thinset), mastic or a mortar/mastic hybrid ?
Great video, was it solder or solvent adhesive to connect the flexitube? Thanks
nooooo! tile adhesive is a bad idea! Sure way for it to crack if any movement... if you do use it then you need to leave the plastic sheeting on the bottom so that it beds down but DOESN'T stick.
Where can i buy that shower drain here in canada i have a water leaking n my shower with that and that thing is different here n canada
Trap will leak without silicone on top, I always leave a gap to get my hand under to make sure it seals properly and then tile the floor after
The shower tray should not be stuck down to the floor
There is no need what so ever , and if it is stuck down with tile adhesive, and there is any movement in the floor , if the shower tray is resin , it can crack
Just bed the tray on some cement and just use silicone to stick the 2 edges of the tray that are against the wall
The tray isn’t gonna go anywhere just cos it’s not stuck to the floor
Bed on some cement????
@@chrise202 6 to 1 sand and cement with some plasticiser
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Love the tutorial, but if the shower floor is tiled already can you still fix the shower tray?
i see why not just repeat the same process put primer on tile then glue.
Nice job. I am aiming to fit a shower in my bathroom soon but I can never find TH-cam footage of how to do it properly (from start to finish) on a CONCRETE floor! :(
Very helpful...thanks for posting
Yes Gonzo, nice install ⚒⚒⚒
Mira flight trays are the best
But I don’t use the Mira trap
£30 for a mcalpine trap is well worth it
Then you have the best tray and best trap
Come on mate, you should have put a block of wood under the trap to make it simple to thread the top in! 😁
What do you seal the edge of shower tray with before tiling
4 years late, but shouldn't there have been a waterproof tape on the Jackoboard in that far corner?
Have i seen you before somewhere like on a West Ham channel? great stuff mate come on you irons.
Great video thanks.
Could you let me know what kind of tile edge trim did you use? (brand etc)
Shower trays are heavy and don't need sticking down. If you have to get to the waste underneath for any reason you are going to have serious problems.
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If tile adhesive is the best way why do all the tray manufacturers say sand and cement? Not criticism a genuine question.
Heard tile adhesive may crack tray if floors moves a few mill.according to Rodger bisby from skill builder anyway
@@johncoen1468 Thanks, the tray manufacturers insist on sand and cement for a reason I've spoken to some of them. Most "experts" on You tube use anything but , including tile adhesive and even silicone. I think even Roger B does one using tile adhesive, I usually rate his input.
I was watching skill builder earlier as my husband and myself are looking for tips, he did say you can use tile adhesive but put a plastic sheet between adhesive and tray so that the tray doesn’t directly stick to the adhesive. If stuck directly to the tray he said any movement in the house, floor etc might crack the shower base.
@@annastarkey9284 I saw that but don't like the idea. I stick to what the manufacturer says then no come back to me.
Just fitted a Mira tray and the instruction said stick down with either sand cement or silicon. I’ve used ct1 for years and never had any issues. Obviously I make sure that the substrate is suitable and solid. The manufacturers sell leg kits for most of the trays available in the uk so sand and cement is a right load of cobblers. If the tray can withstand the weight of an obese guy with say 5 legs it can certainly withstand that weight on the floor. If anything the suction of the tile adhesive could suck the tray and crack it.
That's the whole idea. You don't want the tray to be stuck down. Tile adhesive will crack the tray. Sand and cement beds the tray and doesn't adhere.
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Any info. about the shower waste trap? Thanks
Any recommendations for the tile adhesive? Does it need to be waterproof?
don't use it!
If you install mira flight the instructions say use sand and cement. Never use tile adhesive the
worst thing to do , tray should have nothing underneath or maybe silicone and that's it. Look up skill builders about installing trays... Roger
Why no classi seal?
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Great vid thanks for sharing. 🐵
What are you using to glue the tray down?
Paul Alvarez errrrrrr watch the video again and listen
I need a bathroom fitted we're are you located?
ATISIVE!
Awesome. Thank you 😊
Really good video should you not have put wet board
AMATURE
Like your spelling 😂
I thought you first fix the shower tray and then tile.
Normally u put plumbers putty before to tide.
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We r work for only install bathroom
How com no seal on top , just underneath, wouldn’t plumbers mait work. Surely this will leak as you used nothing
Or even better than plumbers mate use classi seal
No tanking , no classi seal , 🤔
Attesive?
Ateesive
Terrible amd wrong on so many aspects.number one amd most importantly were is the waterproof membrane around the shower amdacross the floor.and most important why is the waste trap.not membraned into the floor this is terrible amd the.walls and floor will rot out guarantee
Lambsteaks
What the hell is ateesive??? 😂 very bizarre
athesives