John Lydon On Lady Gaga and Madonna
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- Christian O'Connell speaks to John Lydon about who he likes and dislikes in the music industry.
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He hasn't lost edge, he understands performance. Gaga is not exactly my cup of tea but she does what she does in her own way, she's original and knows how to entertain.
I love Lydon. He's wonderful. Honest, interesting, smart.
He is genius
But he likes the queen now.
@@antyeardsley That's his choice. I don't have to agree with everything to love him. And I'm from America so I have no Queen to be concerned over... and this is a six year old comment...
Honest!?!? You have got to be kidding? The man doesn't have an honest bone in his body. Every sound he utters is strictly for attention.
@@TCrob What I mean by honest is that he couldn't give two shits and will speak his mind no matter how offensive or controversial.
Gaga is the first person I have ever heard Lydon compliment in any interview.
I love Paul McCartney but what John says here has me in literal tears 😂😂😂
Me too hahahahah x
I wish Lydon was my grandpa. Seems like a really chill and chipper guy.
As a young man he was so aware of how the world works, and was so raw and honest. He is one of the great legends..
I like how he gasps when he asks him about Lady Gaga lol
I like how my butthole itches when I take a dump
If Pistols fans think this is a shock, they should know Steve Jones recently admitted to being a Foreigner, Boston & Journey fan!
And why not great live bands
One of the all-time greatest interviewees on the globe. TRUTH by Lydon!
what the... what did I just watch? Jonny rotten said lady gaga was good?! holy shit!
Rob Stewart That's nothing, I've just seen Rod Stewart posting on youtube
Yeah the fact she shocks people in very smart way, brilliant. Half the world hates because she looks ''extreme'' while her music is right on, she writes and performs her own music, can't imagine many popstars doing that nowadays.
Yeah well she was quite good at that stage, it petered out though.
Original. Lol good one, wait you're serious. All these weird "artists" all copied Kate Fucking Bush, The best female artist of all time. Ranked by the Telegraph as the second best British song-writer topped only by John Lennon.
My boomer cousin in NYC is a bigshot and knows most of the elites that live there.. well he has rave reviews for Gaga (as a person)
wait rotten, actually liking something? Wow, I don't know what to think.
And Sid.
NocturnalFear138 he really liked Sid. He also feels responsible for his death.
Nah rotten likes alot of stuff. It's Morrissey who hates everything
He's still a rotten bastard and he knows it all too well..
"I should cover her" XD
Lydon is naturally intelligent. He's very dry humoured. He's a national treasure now. He was lead singer a lyricist in 1 of the greatest band's ever, The Sex Pistols. They only made 1 album, but it's a genuine classic. Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols is in the all time top 20 albums ever. That's in company with the likes of The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Simon and Garfunkel, Velvet Underground, Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. I've read Lydon's book, No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs. It's so honest and hilarious in parts, but he had a really tough and poor upbringing. I thought we were poor, which we were, but Lydon's family were REALLY Poor. As someone once said He couldn't tell a lie to save his life. He's so honest. About himself. He tells you what he thinks if you ask him he answers truthfully, even if it's about himself and it's embarrassing. So intelligent, interesting and honest. He will be sorely missed when he does finally pass on. Thank You John, for changing England in the late '70s. A unique soul.
You seem to have forgotten the ineffable Neu, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Captain Beefheart and Sparks
Lady Gaga is one of the most cutting-edge artists of the 1970's
I actually believe him when he says he likes Lady Gaga's album The Fame, but this interview must be a while ago. Now he might not like her.
Do you ever see those guys in their 50s who were obviously punks in the 70s, and just never grew out of it?
It's impossible to tell when this guy is serious or not
I love it how legends in music ( both Eastern or Western) praise Gaga. She definitely IS very special and has so many admirers due to her exciting routines and talent.
Never mind the routines she's just a superb musician the way many of her contemporaries aren't. She has a lovely singing voice that doesn't need autotune.
Best interview I've watched of John so far ;)
Oh god, again................bloody great attitude and humour.
I must have watched around 30 videos of John in the last couple of weeks.
Makes my day.
Me too!! Breath of fresh air from a person I've known(not personally but through the music) since junior high!🥰
As outrageous as Lady Gaga is, her music never felt as heavy as her persona and imagery. Some Sex Pistols style guitar and drums would really drive it home. A collaboration with Mr Lydon would be epic.
Finally...
"I should cover her!" LOL
Why does his skin always look fucking FANTASTIC?!
The thing is, she never compromises, has cultivated her own look, is a formidable songwriter and can choose to use electronics or just sing along to a piano live. He also likes dance music. The Pistols made a big splash by being outspoken, over the top, but had the songs to back it up. Gaga's in control of her own image & songs, and he respects that.
Good on yah, johnny. he`d love to cover lady ga ga. that says it all!
hes got a good sense of humour
On numerous occasions John has referred Paul McCartney as McCarthy. No one seems to have corrected him.
+Marcus Olsson I get the impression that it's a running gag, would like to hear him elaborate on why he says "McCarthy"....
I've ALWAYS had the utmost respect for Lydon and his opinions and this interview only serves to confirm this. Gaga is truly great, as are her songs. Thanks, John!
hes still johnny rotten to me!
explain to me how hes a genius please?
I think Lady Gaga would be a "mile and a half" better if she would just drop all those lame, ridiculous, synchronized dancers around her. That vapid shit has been played out for decades.
Joanne
Aint nothing good about weirdo yuppies and drum machines
She’s a great songwriter, that’s why she’s so successful.
John Lydon is playing in oxford this june, im might be seeing him :)
That was fantastic!
He's obviously being sarcastic, but he's experienced enough to put it in an ambivalent way. Clever guy.
McLarenMercedes nope
sarcatic about what? i think ur walking around with ur eyes shut mate he sounded pretty fucking convincing to me. i think ur just thick
He's definitely not being sarcastic.
"You should cover it."
"I should cover HER!"
I Respect more the fact that you gave me reciprocal respect.I understand 100% what you meant in your comments and even agree with your Stevie Ray analogy..I guess being a teen of the late 70,s and early 80,s I also see Blondie as having a far bigger and lasting impact on both the New Wave music scene and more importantly and relevant is her influence to women of todays music scene. Thanks for the enlightenment all the same bro........Cheers!...P.S Thanks for the Repsect Bro..PEACE!
I don't know, I remember reading some Pil interviews in the early 80's where Lydon was going on about liking disco of all things.
i will always have a huge crush on hiim ahhhhhhh
I always feel, if you could cut through all the obvious artifice, that John Lydon would be a really decent bloke. There are very few people that have had as such a polarising affect on my life as this man. Culturally and artistically between 1976 and 1982 there were few people, if any, as powerfull and vital. Something happened to him when he left for the USA in 1983: seemingly I imagine he became much happier in himself but the art dissapeared.
very honest opinions!!!
cheers John!!
Who is Lady Gaga?
Lady Gaga’s first three albums were masterpieces. Madonna’s music hasn’t aged well as much as Gaga’s has.
This is abit unfair as Lady Gaga wasn't even born when Madonnas first album came out. Lady Gaga's first 3 albums are only a 11-15 years old, Madonna's are 32 -37 years old. That's a big gap, which is why you can't say that it's just not fair as Lady Gagas albums are more fresh, they aren't even vintage yet.
Hah, I love it that it pisses people off knowing John likes Gaga's style ;)
Hell Yeah!!! Talent Know talent!
Brilliant!
All I can say is John Lyndon for PM
The man has a fine taste in butter.
He was being totally sarcastic when talking about Lady gaga hahahaha
I heart John Lydon.
=)
I assure you John is being serious!!! Gaga is from a wealthy family, nonetheless she has paid her dues to the nth degree!!! She has played clubs since she was a child, she writes her own music & even designs & has manufactured her own outfits! She is very talented & the genuine article whether she's famous or not! John recognizes this & appreciates her for real.What's good is good no matter what "style" it is or how popular it is. That's what John is saying. She's good & talented. Madonnas a cow
lost it the day he took the butter advert.
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hey, will do, I used to live dulwich!
I know. This actually makes me sob.
John looks good... happy to see it.
Lol at all the sad middle aged "punks" whining about Lydon liking Lady Gaga! Punks are such confused little lambs,bless!
Lada Gaga is a cheap Madonna knock-off.
And Madonna did not have a creative bone in here body
Uncle99B That is absolutely right!!!Fuck off with Lady Gaga
sejlali1 Not me. I'm a huge fan of Iggy, The Damned, The Clash, Johnny Lydon, Dead Kennedys, etc. going all the way back to the 80s. And I think Lady Gaga is awesome, just like Lydon. No confusion here!
He understands pop music and loves the theatricality of great pop performers.that why he likes lady gaga. If you don't get it you probably didn't get the Sex Pistols either. Another pop loving Brit.
He is awesome!
2009, I said the same thing. 2023, I haven't changed my opinion when I say Gaga is better than Madonna by a long shot. And I just went across this video. I knew Lydon was an honest man all along. But I didn't know we shared the same opinion. What he said is pretty accurate about Madonna.
Gaga wipes the floor with Madonna. She can sit down at the piano and play and sing. Madonna couldn't do that as it would show her lack of genuine talent.
i knew he would like her. to many people don't get what she is doing and think she is all shock but really she is pushing boundaries. She's forcing people outside their bubbles which can be upsetting.
***** You're a bitch!
***** Basically you got away with it until now, and now you are annoyed at being called out. Grow up ya li'l sket.
***** The artificial 'if you reply I've won' taunt... doesn't work with me hun. Unfortunately, you are not intelligent enough to manipulate my thoughts. You're just a little bitch who can't handle the fact that someone else has noticed she's a bitch and needs to grow up... look who's backtracking and now saying lady G is uninteresting despite following her around youtube. Cow.
***** You ungrateful little man, I was sticking up for you... If you can't understand my rant I think it says more about you than me... Of course that li'l cow Brittany didn't understand it as she's just a girl, but I expected more from you Edward.
wailer27 youtube fights...I dont know which is more ridiculous, the reactions my comment spawned or the fact your all so emotionally invested into proving yourselves to totally strangers.
Is he having a laugh?
all rock stars artist and celeberties love lady gaga thats good. now we need the people to love her too!
I love that he gets the humor in her work! Most of the people in the comments saying Gaga's music is shit can only name 1 song of hers, Pokerface! She has literally hundreds of songs you've never even heard before. She can make any genre of music and sound great at it!
Yes, she is one helluva talent.
@@markvarley2962 like you then?
he hates greenday but likes lady gaga?!?!?!? What the..
he hates Green Day because they ruined Punk
+mynameisdudge They DON'T Blink Fuckin Shit 182, DID'IT!!!
Blink 182 was pretty good on their early records Dude Ranch is way better than anything green day ever released imo and at least they are not doing fucking musicals and shit
El Padrino still all pop music, just with instruments
+mynameisdudge yeah but if you really analize it The Ramones were the first pop punk band not trying to cause any controversy but in their first records there were songs like I wanna be your boyfriend and sheena is a punk rocker thats one of the poppiest songs I've heard so that thing about "pop" in punk music was there from the beggining in my opinion :/
Just looked up, Lady Gaga - Paparazzi. WTF?
Exactly... Trash!!
lol can you feel the sarcasm in his voice lol its fucken awesome especially when he said paparazzi is a genius song and he said he wish he could of come up with it lol
Insults Paul & praises Gaga? WTF!
I'm disillusioned.
Saying nasty stuff about Debbie Harry eh, well Deb's always been gorgeous , sure she's gotten older but really Lydon, you've never been a hottie.
Sid was the looker.
gotta love the lydon the man's pure gold
Love Jonny...
She's back there with her horses!...........Rotten comment lol
I don't get the acclaim for Lady Gaga. She's not proven herself as some kind of genius to me only as weird and pretentious. Her music is actually quite generic and all this artsy fartsy weird stuff she does has been done before and in much better ways. Forced weirdness does not equal talent or genius but it seems that it can fool a hell of a lot of people. The worst of all is that I think she really does think her music is something revolutionary and mindblowing when it's simply the most kooky out of the "current" generic pop music. I'll give it to her she can sing very well but there's nothing else special about her. I'm also not a fan of Madonna but at least she's pretentious in a less ridiculous way. Bjork does it better than both of them combined.
***** Lady Gaga is a narcissist willing to do and say anything that gets her noticed. She has contradicted herself numerous times, when every time she says the thing the people around her wants to hear. She has said "Now, I don’t know if you know this, but for those of you who don’t know, I write all my own music. Every single lyric, melody and note was created by me. I am not manufactured." ... I wonder what RedOne, Darkchild, Fernando Garibay, Rob Fusari, Akon, Martin Kierszenbaum, and about fifty other engineers, backing vocalists, producers, writers, musicians, marketing assistants and A&R reps would have to say about that? Not manufactured... haha.. sure.
Yet she doesn't even want to recognize her birthname. She IS a product.. and she's the biggest fan of herself. Lady Gaga has cast herself as the champion of misfits, eccentrics, and weirdos, telling them to embrace their identity, no matter what the costs; no matter what others might say to them. But she is particularly ill-equipped for such a role, given that she herself compromised her identity to win stardom.. She changed the style of music she made, the style of person she was and even had plastic surgery.
We already saw David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust in the 70's. At best she revived the glam rock personality for a generation that never knew about it.
Cassius Chaerea every word you wrote is spot on perfect!!!
David Bowie wasn't _his_ birth name either. What's your point about that? BTW, hyperbole is a thing, you know. I don't know much about her as she's not my cup of tea, but I'd guess that she's referring to her own stuff, specifically. Those mostly sound like collabs to me.
And Kate Bush does it better than all of them combined. Bjork is a Kate Bush worshiper and she probably has a shrine of Kate.
I’d still say Johnny is one of the best song writers ever he’s such a smart man
I agree with you, but you posted the same comment with different wording about 10 times. Why ?
i use to hate her but i agree with John here,Paparazzi is a great song
How much was he paid to do this I thought he was a punk.
This is great! Lady Gaga's song "Bloody Mary" I've always thought would sound great sung by John Lydon.
At least the chorus, anyway. I would love to see them do a remake of that song together.
I like Lydons personality ! I don’t waste time with Gaga or Madonna but I still listen to Blondie !
Whatever !
i still love Blondie.
and Offspring destroyed punk, not Green Day !
how Offspring destroyed punk and Green Day not?
That’s just my opinion !
I hate when you don’t know if Rotten is being sarcastic or not.
Seems like he hates everyone sometimes.
Green Day has been very faithful to the Clash and to Stiff Little Fingers, I
think.
But Offspring has opened for Californian… shit. Sorry !
I’m a bit angry at the moment and just think they should not call it
Californian Punk, but Californian… anything ! Californian Surf, Californian
music.
Offspring maybe made an excellent first album. But then they went down and were followed by all those Blink 182 and Sum41. And that is something, but certainly not Punk !
Habibasse It all started way back with Billy Idol and slowly escalated to MTV punk. I think Green Day had much bigger impact on pop punk scene and on later shitty bands like Blink and Sum. They were more recognizable, successful and more melodic.
What are you talking about Californian? Green Day are also Californian.
Sure !
But they don’t have a typical Californian sound.
Billy Idol & Tony James were together in Generation X, one of the best punk bands ever.
They had nothing to prove. Even if all they did afterwards was poppy !
No, Blink 182 did!
Well,he understands Gaga coz she is a product of someone else's mind just like he was in the very begining,of course they both have a genuine talent but let's face it,Gaga got some few good songs!
I'm one of the last people on earth who would ever listen to a pop song of my own accord, but from what i've heard of todays pop music, it seems to me that Lady Gaga has the most talent. I feel like she is different from the other pop stars because she actually cares about the quality of her music, instead of just money or the charts.
It's good to see that Lydon can be complimentary about someone. Never would have imagined that it might be lady Gaga though. Not that I have anything against her as a person or a musician (ok, she can be a bit too pretentious but then a lot of celebrities are).
Rather surreal was when he praised Cliff Richard he appeared in "The 100 greatest Brits of the 20th Century ( I think that's what it was titled). I never would have thought it possible that he would! Wonders will indeed never cease!
He is a Lady Gaga fan well...things change through time, he used to be or at least pretended to be a tough guy. He should not talk about Madonna; he´s not Johnny Rotten anymore, he´s Johnny Forgotten.
I had idea; I am in the forties
I know what I am saying.
What do you mean by "you ain't no clue"?
Oh come on I used to listen to his first interviews and all that stuff when he hated everything including pop music of course. Now he turned be opinionated but he was not a consistent musician. I mean, he slagged off Madonna and at the end of the day she is even punkier than he is. She ends up "liking" lady gaga who is a real copy cat. So, years made him soft.
He ends up not she sorry!!!
He ends up not she sorry!!!
You can like lady gaga but do not call her song structure fantastic .
i agree, it's really, really poor
sratus its so sad to say that such an artistic like john say something like this. i feel like they say they like things like this because its aesthetically edgy.
Oh no, how dare he like something we don't... How fucking wrong of him. God forbid. The Earth crumbles a bit faster knowing someone likes a Lady Gaga song.
Dan Maginnis " you can like lady gaga" yeah i definitely sounded like you lol. But to call her music around the time of this interview anything structurally advanced is no opinionated. Her albums had basic pop formula that could be easily broken down. I don't enjoy her new material, but i acknowledge it as a step into something structurally different. I was saying he only said he enjoyed lady as a gimmick to act like anything that is publicly edgy is somehow meaningful or artful.
I just think you're over analyzing his statement and giving it more meaning than he probably intended. I don't like Lady Gaga much at all but i'd rather listen to her than the majority of shite that comes on a workplace radio. Why? I dunno, maybe it's the appreciation of the fact that she can actually write her own songs, she can play instruments, she can sing really well, the lyrical content is more thoughtful than the typical "ooer ooer" noises and Rihanna's half drunk gibberish lyrics. Whether her song structures are as complicated as anything by Rush doesn't really matter does it? You don't listen to music thinking "ohhh yes i love that A B A C A B format, very well designed"... no
John John You the MAN
I lost my front tooth just like Johnny, it had to be extracted due to a cavity that was too big. I was feeling sad yesterday, but looking at him now makes ma feel not that upset about that.
can't believe that rotten likes music industry
I'm surprised he loves Gaga considering she's the absolute IMAGE of the girl he's supposed to have despised, the late Nancy Spungen.
Very true tbh. Gaga looks really like Nancy. How ODD..
oh johhny i love your sarcasm
0:42... best line EVER!
I have just lost respect for john lydon
Lady Gaga's music just sounds like generic dance music to me. She just dresses weird and makes it seem like she's doing something different and special. She sucks just as much as Madonna does.
It is like 1990s Euro dance.
With copy and paste from the '80s... I love your name... you're friggin' right... the web was one of the reason of the dyin' scene.
And to think Madonna was more famous than Kate Bush, what is wrong with this world.
@@datukaruma1563 it’s a world that has always preferred blonde bimbos with little talent over proper talented women ..
Neither am I. He talks about Lady Gaga on Strombo as well. Just search for John Lydon on Strombo if you wanna see it.
I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or not
Johnny doesn't like Debbie Harry but likes Ga Ga??? WTF!!!!!!!!! How ridiculous!!!!
Lady Gaga is humorless and takes herself seriously.
She does now, she didn't seem to in the beginning - she had more of a sense of fun. And though I think she does believe in gay right she courts the 'gay' demographic shamelessly and in what I think is a really cynical way. She wants their votes - she wants their custom. But all that 'mother monster' shite makes me want to hurl.
You don't have to be "controversial" to express yourself artistically, which she does without restraint.
Gaga...ugh.
John Lydon is a Lady Gaga fan that’s great and she is so sweet and kind
Greatness
if this was Jukebox Jury i'd be walking off
Thanks,they have gone through hard time,Warning in 2000 was critically reviewed as a great album,but sold poorly their last two albums before that had always sold less than the last,they came back and did a album,they had recorded it,the few people who sore it said it was back to Punk rock feel,they came in to finish things off and found the master tapes had been stolen,most bands would have fallen apart at that point,they didn't they ended up becoming inspired to write American idiot. Thanks.